Stone Circles - How? Why? Where?

[Beaujangles]

I thought I''d start this topic as stone circles have always fascinated me. The many reasons given for their being where they are, and the mystery around how such huge stones got from miles away to their current locations.

 

Stonehenge being the obvious contender but there are so many others. Has anyone been to any? 

 

There is a set of three circles in a place called Stanton Drew. Ive been there a few times - there is a strong energy there. I've seen people actually lying on some of the flatter stones and pulling energy from them. 

[Macnamara]

The thing i've noticed visiting various power centres is how much stuff has been moved around

 

There will always be a stone missing or a stone moved or a road driven through the site. Look into it and you'll find a 'stone has been broken up to used as back fill for a road' or 'a stone has been moved to make way for such and such' or 'there were more stones but some have been lost' or various other tales about why the site has been vandalised in the past

 

So i suggest that LOCATION is all important and that by moving the stones the original function of the stones is sabotaged. Am i suggesting they have been deliberately sabotaged? Yes 100% but then i'm a crazy 'conspiracy theorist'....

 

Then there is the issue of weathering. I was once visiting a site in Dumfriesshire and there was an excited american guy there talking about a coming steller event. He had packed some wet mud up on the top of the stones to fill their shape out to the original profile so that the shadows cast by the stone landed in the right place to correspond with subtle markings on nearby stones. Unfortunately this steller event would have required that we return at 4 o'clock in the morning and we decided to give it a miss on that occaision

 

If you are in Dumfriesshire and fancy looking out the stone mentioned in one of David's books, don't. The stone isn't there anymore and even the farmer whose land it was on won't have heard of it! It is now in the storage facility of scotland's national museum. Certainly don't miss the book festival in wigtown chasing around random bits of the countryside looking for stones that no longer inhabit that area; wives frown on that sort of thing

[Beaujangles]

6 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

The thing i've noticed visiting various power centres is how much stuff has been moved around

 

There will always be a stone missing or a stone moved or a road driven through the site. Look into it and you'll find a 'stone has been broken up to used as back fill for a road' or 'a stone has been moved to make way for such and such' or 'there were more stones but some have been lost' or various other tales about why the site has been vandalised in the past

 

So i suggest that LOCATION is all important and that by moving the stones the original function of the stones is sabotaged. Am i suggesting they have been deliberately sabotaged? Yes 100% but then i'm a crazy 'conspiracy theorist'....

 

Then there is the issue of weathering. I was once visiting a site in Dumfriesshire and there was an excited american guy there talking about a coming steller event. He had packed some wet mud up on the top of the stones to fill their shape out to the original profile so that the shadows cast by the stone landed in the right place to correspond with subtle markings on nearby stones. Unfortunately this steller event would have required that we return at 4 o'clock in the morning and we decided to give it a miss on that occaision

 

If you are in Dumfriesshire and fancy looking out the stone mentioned in one of David's books, don't. The stone isn't there anymore and even the farmer whose land it was on won't have heard of it! It is now in the storage facility of scotland's national museum. Certainly don't miss the book festival in wigtown chasing around random bits of the countryside looking for stones that no longer inhabit that area; wives frown on that sort of thing

 

Thanks. Stanton Drew is pretty isolated and secure. You cannot access by road and the villagers are very protective of the area. Some stones have been eroded and are almost at ground level.

 

I'm sure some circles have been sabotaged over such long periods of time. Much like buildings and other sacred places.

 

Have you been to see any other stone circles Mac?

[Macnamara]

5 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

Thanks. Stanton Drew is pretty isolated and secure. You cannot access by road and the villagers are very protective of the area. Some stones have been eroded and are almost at ground level. I'm sure some circles have been sabotaged over such long periods of time. Much like buildings and other sacred places.

 

I just had a quick look on the relevant wikipedia page and found this:

 

''It is a large stone close to Hautville Quoit Farm, recumbent since at least the mid 17th century but assumed to have originally been upright.^[9] Described by Stukeley in 1723 as being 13 feet (4.0 m) long,^[10][11] it is now about half that length, Leslie Grinsell suggesting that fragments have occasionally been broken off for mending the roads.''

 

''When one of the stones fell in the mid 17th century, some human bones were discovered accompanied by an object described as a "round bell, like a large horse-bell". The burial date and the purpose of the bell-like object are unknown.''

 

so there have been movements and alterations to the site. So who is it that has always had their grubby mitts on these sites? Invariably you will find when you look into it that the royal antiquarians have been there and meddled with things. In the case of callanish on lewis they found a brown substance which got destroyed. Who knows what other vital evidence they trashed?

 

In the case of stanton drew wikipedia says this:

 

''In 1740 the site was surveyed and mapped by architect, freemason and antiquarian John Wood, the Elder, who noted the different stones used.''

 

Note the date in the early to mid 1700's a short period after the grand lodges of freemasonry opened up in all the home nations.

 

5 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

Have you been to see any other stone circles Mac?

 

yes. I guess i'm drawn to them in a way

[Macnamara]

35 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

The thing i've noticed visiting various power centres is how much stuff has been moved around

 

I have seen that in so many cases that i would go as far as to say that i believe there has been a comprehensive programme of sabotage of britain's ancient sites

 

Good luck in fact trying to find one that has not in some way been meddled with

[Beaujangles]

1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

I have seen that in so many cases that i would go as far as to say that i believe there has been a comprehensive programme of sabotage of britain's ancient sites

 

Good luck in fact trying to find one that has not in some way been meddled with

 

Absolutely, not least the old statues in the last couple years. Even history between strategically altered.

 

The Stanton Drew stones seem to have an alter with what looks to be a once corridor of stones. There is no direct road to it and you have to go through a private persons property via a laneway (which they allow no charge). 

[Macnamara]

21 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

Absolutely, not least the old statues in the last couple years. Even history between strategically altered.

 

i think a lot of the meddling including the craze for turning over barrows dates to around the 1700's. Prior to this in the 1600's we also see a craze for witch hunting

 

I think its too facile to blame 'christianity' for this as many will for example you can hear people today talking about the current church of england and i look at that and i see an ex-banker justin welby in charge of the church who lets freemasons use the churches. Also when you look at how woke the church is and how it is edging out conservative elements you can see that certain forces are in control of it

 

Do i think the elites presiding over the witch hunts were christians or do i think they were freemasons? I think they were freemasons

 

Do i think the modern church is run by christians or do i think its run by freemasons? I think its run by freemasons.

 

Do i think the royal antiquarians are christians or do i think they are freemasons? i think they are freemasons

 

Do i think the astro-turf groups currently pulling down statues and trying to re-write history are christians or freemasons? i think they are freemasons

 

Do i think the pro-zionist evangelists in the US are christians or do i think they are freemasons? I think they are freemasons

 

Do i think the new age movement is coming out of christianity or out of freemasonry? I think its coming out of freemasonry

 

I perceive an occult hand behind all of thee things

 

 

[Beaujangles]

 

Christianity has also been spliced and diced too. For example, Mormonism for me is based in Freemasonry also. The Temple rituals are definitely linked to freemasonry. To access parts of the Salt lake Temple you have to do masonic like hand holds. The male dominance. Men and women are divided for the first part of the ceremony. Once they reach the 'Celestial kingdom' part of the Temple which is considered the afterlife in the ritual they can be together. The Quorum of the Twelve (substituting for disciples?)

[alexa]

11 hours ago, Beaujangles said:

Stonehenge being the obvious contender

 

These blue stones of Stonehenge were supposedly quarried from the Preseli Mountains , South Wales and moved some 200 miles away to where they are now. How did they manage to do this ?

 

 

I have visited the Preseli Mountains which over looks a small village called 'Nevern' where there is a church yard where resides the famous bleeding yew tree.

 

Edited May 4, 2022 by alexa

[Origin]

20 hours ago, Beaujangles said:

I thought I''d start this topic as stone circles have always fascinated me. The many reasons given for their being where they are, and the mystery around how such huge stones got from miles away to their current locations.

 

Stonehenge being the obvious contender but there are so many others. Has anyone been to any? 

 

There is a set of three circles in a place called Stanton Drew. Ive been there a few times - there is a strong energy there. I've seen people actually lying on some of the flatter stones and pulling energy from them. 

I would state that this is the wrong place to start the search. Too much is too weathered and out of context. If stones are noticeably unworked it means that they are from later times ;) There is a significant difference between those who were a true high civilisation and those who imitated it. Look for anomalies that make the impossible structures understandable if there are matches in today's world. With what it could be worked and that it was only possible with machines. For the so-called millennia, almost everything was reused, all traces were erased. I recommend this series to start. With this, everyone can guess why history has been distorted until today. And why gods emerged...Eyes cannot be deceived. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Beaujangles]

@Origin Thank you for the videos. I will take a look. I have a sister who lives near Stanton Drew so I go with her when I am there. I like the energy.

 

But very interested in new sites. Which is your favourite, if you have one?

[Origin]

I don't have any. The remnants of the first ones are everywhere. As I said, it only becomes interesting when it is machined and is purely functional. And there might be something that can't be detected by conventional means and has consciously decided to do so. And that surpasses everything. And that's something everyone has to find out for themselves.

[Fluke]

On 5/3/2022 at 11:27 PM, Macnamara said:

 

i think a lot of the meddling including the craze for turning over barrows dates to around the 1700's. Prior to this in the 1600's we also see a craze for witch hunting

 

I think its too facile to blame 'christianity' for this as many will for example you can hear people today talking about the current church of england and i look at that and i see an ex-banker justin welby in charge of the church who lets freemasons use the churches. Also when you look at how woke the church is and how it is edging out conservative elements you can see that certain forces are in control of it

 

Do i think the elites presiding over the witch hunts were christians or do i think they were freemasons? I think they were freemasons

 

Do i think the modern church is run by christians or do i think its run by freemasons? I think its run by freemasons.

 

Do i think the royal antiquarians are christians or do i think they are freemasons? i think they are freemasons

 

Do i think the astro-turf groups currently pulling down statues and trying to re-write history are christians or freemasons? i think they are freemasons

 

Do i think the pro-zionist evangelists in the US are christians or do i think they are freemasons? I think they are freemasons

 

Do i think the new age movement is coming out of christianity or out of freemasonry? I think its coming out of freemasonry

 

I perceive an occult hand behind all of thee things

 

 

 

On 5/3/2022 at 11:27 PM, Macnamara said:

Do i think the elites presiding over the witch hunts were christians or do i think they were freemasons? I think they were freemasons

Agree with everything there not a christian myself but its clear there is a jewish supremecy hand in freemason and sabataging of the church. 

Interesting you mention the witch hunts always been interested in the burnings i wonder if it was some covid type propaganda of the day? I will do some digging do you have any links or books i could refer to regarding who was orchestrating the witch trials that seemed to spread across the world? Whats interesting also is it wasn't actually that long ago in the grand scheme of things.

 

 

[Macnamara]

10 hours ago, Fluke said:

Agree with everything there not a christian myself but its clear there is a jewish supremecy hand in freemason and sabataging of the church. 

 

If you look at freemasonry in britain it is run by the duke of kent who is a member of the royal family. Since the reformation the monarch has been the head of the church in england. The royals and the rothschilds are freemasons. Here is the queen being attended to by a nurse with a freemasonic belt buckle:

 

 

Freemasonry

Members of the Rothschild family have been involved with the Freemasons, a fraternal organisation whose members are concerned with moral and spiritual values, self-improvement, and helping their communities with charitable endeavours.

The Rothschilds began to acquire large estates in Buckinghamshire in the 1840s. In 1836, Nathan Mayer Rothschild’s widow, Hannah (1783-1850), bought a few acres of land at Mentmore in Buckinghamshire for her sons so that they could take healthy exercise away from the city.  In 1850 Mayer bought the Manor of Mentmore for £12,400 and commissioned Joseph Paxton and his son-in-law George Stokes to build him a house. By 1900, different branches and generations of the family owned thousands of acres, so the Vale of Aylesbury almost became a Rothschild enclave, the most famous property being Waddesdon Manor, built by Baron Ferdinand de Rothschild (1839-1898).

Ferdinand de Rothschild Lodge, No. 2420

This masonic lodge was etablished in Aylesbury in 1892. It was consecrated at the Five Arrows Hotel, Waddesdon on 30th May, 1892. The founding of the lodge brought Freemasonry to the district of Waddesdon, its name being derived from Baron Ferdinand who it was intended should be the first Master. He was in France at the time, of the consecration, where he was taken ill, and unable to be present, but was subsequently installed as second Master in June 1893. The initiation fee was seven guineas, joining fee three guineas and annual subscription three guineas.

On June 11th, 1892 ‘The Freemason’ reported "The Province of Buckinghamshire has steadily progressed since its separation from Berkshire, and it is now one lodge ahead of its late partner by the consecration on Monday, the 30th ult., of the Ferdinand de Rothschild Lodge, No. 2420 … a large number of brethren journeyed by rail from London to Aylesbury, where carriages were found to convey them to Waddesdon, which proved a most enjoyable drive of over five miles, the weather being delightful, and the country at its best. The lodge was opened punctual to time by Bro. Rev. J. Studholme Brownrigg D.P.G.M., and a hymn having being sung, he addressed the brethren on the motive of the meeting … the brethren adjourned to a spacious marquee, which had been erected on the lawn, and which was tastefully decorated with flags, flowers etc. A recherché repast was served in a really excellent manner, which not only reflected the highest credit on the worthy host, Mr Turnham, but which would have reflected credit on any of the principal Metropolitan hostelries.”

Concordia Lodge, No 2492

The Concordia lodge was consecrated in 1893, and met at Red Lion Hotel, Lee Common, Wendover, Buckinghamshire. The badge for Concordia Lodge features the Rothschild symbol of the five arrows. The name, Concordia Lodge may have been inspired by the local Rothschild family, and the Rothschild family motto, Concordia, Integritas, Industria, although 'concordia', meaning harmony, has been a common name for other masonic lodges with no connection to the Rothschilds.

Both the Ferdinand de Rothschild and Concordia lodges are still active.

https://www.rothschildarchive.org/family/family_interests/freemasonry

 

10 hours ago, Fluke said:

Interesting you mention the witch hunts always been interested in the burnings i wonder if it was some covid type propaganda of the day?

 

The royal family are descended from the stewarts as with the union of the crowns in 1603 james VI of scotland moved with his royal retinue down to london and assumed the now united crowns of england and scotland and became james I of england

 

The stewarts are an old knights templar bloodline who trace their lineage from King david of the bible. They even have the harp of david on their royal crest. They are kabbalist freemasons. It was King James VI of scotland who wrote the book 'DAEMONOLOGIE' that was used as a witch hunting guide.

King James - The Founder of Freemason Lodges

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The KJV - A Freemason Bible

The history of King James' role in the formation of Freemasonry is mandatory reading in the Hiram Key book of Masonic scrolls attempting to link Christ with the Pharaohs.

Freemasonry, in its present form, came into being through the Lodge system, established under the auspices of King James VI of Scotland, (later King James I of England), the only son of Roman Catholic Mary Queen of Scots. At the age of 37, two years after becoming a Mason, James became the first Stuart king of England and immediately began to persecute the Puritans, rejecting their petition to reform the Church of England along biblical lines.

James was initiated into Freemasonry, into the Lodge of Scoon and Perth in 1601, at the age of 35. Fifteen years after taking active control of Scotland and five years before becoming English monarch, he ordered that the Masonic structure be given leadership and organisation. He made a senior Mason, named William Schaw, his General Warden of the Craft, and instructed Schaw to revamp the entire structure of Freemasonry into what it became today. Schaw commenced this project on 28th December 1598, on the orders of James.

To this day, the 1611 edition of the King James Bible remains the Freemason Bible and is the edition conventionally used in secret Masonic temple rituals.

Moriel does not, however believe that the Masonic association with the KJV or the Freemasonry of King James, founder of the Masonic Lodge system, detracts from the validity of this outdated but valid translation of the Bible. Nonetheless, it is the Freemason Bible and has been from its inception, commissioned and authorised by the same Freemason King who commissioned and authorised the Masonic Lodge structure. We can only speculate how many members of the KJV Only cult are in fact Freemasons.

https://blog.moriel.org/religions-and-cults-1/ruckmanism/18324-king-james-the-founder-of-freemason-lodges.html

 

10 hours ago, Fluke said:

I will do some digging do you have any links or books i could refer to regarding who was orchestrating the witch trials that seemed to spread across the world? Whats interesting also is it wasn't actually that long ago in the grand scheme of things.

 

As i say King james VI's book 'DAEMONOLOGIE' was the key text in scotland fuelling the witch hunt HYSTERIA

 

Although some people fallaciously talk about freemasonry starting in the early 1700's with the creation of the grand lodges in the home nations it is in fact much older. In scotland we had informal lodges such a culross palace and newbattle abbey both around the capital edinburgh and operating in the 1600's during the witch trials. Within edinburgh is the oldest purpose built lodge in the world attached to the office of the knights of st john which MERGED with the knights templar after the french king sent a letter around european monarchs inviting them to dissolve the templars. In edinburgh a kangaroo court was held and a few templars were given a verbal warning but were not disspossesed like the order was in france. The french king died of poisoning shortly after.

 

Lodge 0 in fact dates back to the 1100's at kilwinning where a major ecclesiastical building was constructed. Its worth baring in mind that cistercian monks were a sister body of the templars and the head of their order played a key role in gaining the 'rule' (license) of the templars they gained from the pope. So that is about 1000 years of history in scotland which then brings us to that all important date in british history of 1066 which was the invasion by the normans but which really saw many flemish knights move in to both england and scotland. William the conqueror brought in jewish administrators to set up the tax system known as the 'exchequer' which exists to this day. Some people believe that william himself may have had jewish ancestry.

 

Soon after the norman invasion we then see the first crusade to the holy land in 1095 and of course the jewish network across europe want to regain jerusalem to rebuild the third temple; once jerusalem was captured the knights templar then went there to dig under temple mount

Edited May 6, 2022 by Macnamara

[Beaujangles]

 

Thought I would bring this over here as a new poster had posted the link in another thread. @Means of Production Interesting video of another Stone Circle.

[Beaujangles]

Another poster posted about the Drombeg Stone Circle in Cork Ireland. I was in Cork in early August so figured I'd put up the info about this Irish Stone Circle. Certainly an interesting topic.Makes you wonder how, when and  where...

 

 

I found the fictional show Outlander somewhat compelling as it centred around a Stone Circle in Inverness, Scotland, albeit with a magical tale of time travel ;-)

 

http://www.megalithicireland.com/Drombeg.htm

[HAARPING_On]

I've just watched these two documentaries, really interesting and although the first one is over 2 hours long I never lost interest for a minute.

Despite many theories being raised in all the documentaries I've seen on this subject so far, none of them put forward the theory that man might have had more technology at hos disposal then than we give him credit for... If they knew how to place these stones at such precise increments then what else where they capable of?

 

"Standing With Stones: The Movie"

 

 

Julian Cope - "The Modern Antiquarian"

 

 

Edited November 22, 2022 by HAARPING_On
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[Grumpy Grapes]

I've been to Avebury and Stonehenge.

 

There's a modern stone circle in Milton Keynes that's supposed to be on a ley line.

 

The Isle of Portland near Weymouth was quarried for limestone. There are stone sculptures there and a couple of stone circles. 

 

I channeled some energy at Stonehenge recently, but had to leave prematurely to get the bus back to Salisbury. The trouble with channelling there is that you can't go into the centre of the stones, unless you are prepared to pay a large amount.