peter Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 On 4/12/2022 at 4:43 AM, rwkt said: The corona exists, its part of covid which is a flu, all the rest is bullshit nonsense made up............I hope they are not insinuating they found a covid where there is no trace of any such thing,,,,,,,,,,,,,only on computer. thank you I watched it ,very interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Knight Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) Surprised me, very interesting... Edited April 13, 2022 by The Old Knight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 at the beginning of the coof, i heard that if a virus was grown using reptiles the human immune system would not see it. the immune system does not recognise anything reptilian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebornsteve Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Interesting coincidence... Cobra Biologics recently acquired by Charles Rivers.. development and manufacture of DNA, viral vectors, microbiota and proteins for clinical trials and commercial supply Cobra supports the global life sciences industry in the fill and finish of small molecules and biologics. A fully comprehensive pharmaceuticals and biologics service offering is also provided for monoclonal antibodies (mAbs), recombinant proteins, DNA, viruses, phage and cell line derived products. https://www.criver.com/cobra-biologics-now-part-charles-river?utm_source=cobrabio.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=bi-cobra-biologics-website-redirect https://www.worldpharmaceuticals.net/contractors/contract-manufacturing/cobra-biologics/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwkt Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share Posted April 13, 2022 Email sent to me this morning from clive de carle The counter argument, it's not the water it's 5g clive de carle Exposing Stew Peters, Bryan Ardis Bullshit Video Watch The Water 67 2950 Views https://brandnewtube.com/watch/exposing-stew-peters-bryan-ardis-bullshit-video-watch-the-water_75zjGt144hoPQ2b.html?utm_source=Pabbly&utm_medium=email&utm_content=The%20counter%20argument%2C%20it%27s%20not%20the%20water%20it%27s%205g&utm_campaign=Here%20is%20the%20counter%20argument%20to%20Watch%20the%20water%2C%20that%20it%27s%20actually%20just%205G%20and%20they%27re%20trying%20to%20find%20a%20distraction. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebornsteve Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Nicotinic Cholinergic System and COVID-19: Identification of a Potentially Crucial Snake Toxin-Like Sequence in the SARS-CoV-2 Spike Glycoprotein. https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202005.0301/v1 Toxin-like peptides, almost identical to toxic components of venoms from animals, like conotoxins, phospholipases, phosphodiesterases, zinc metal proteinases, and bradykinins, were identified in samples from COVID-19 patients, but not in control samples. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/353118082_Toxin-like_peptides_in_plasma_urine_and_faecal_samples_from_COVID-19_patients 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 4 hours ago, sickofallthebollocks said: Good fair points mate, here's a bit of balance from all the excitement yesterday: https://brandnewtube.com/watch/exposing-stew-peters-bryan-ardis-bullshit-video-watch-the-water_75zjGt144hoPQ2b.html Thanks for finding this @sickofallthebollocks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truther79 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Is anyone getting to the point where they are tired of all the conspiracy updates and "MUST WATCH" or "Emergency Broadcast" videos by so-called "in the know" celebrities of the alternative news? I've come to the conclusion that there is so much nonsense spouted now that it's pretty much impossible to discern the absolute truth with any certainty. Merely have a good idea where the agenda is headed and that's about it. Maybe it's just me. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, truther79 said: Is anyone getting to the point where they are tired of all the conspiracy updates and "MUST WATCH" or "Emergency Broadcast" videos by so-called "in the know" celebrities of the alternative news? I've come to the conclusion that there is so much nonsense spouted now that it's pretty much impossible to discern the absolute truth with any certainty. Merely have a good idea where the agenda is headed and that's about it. Maybe it's just me. It's frustrating because they still mostly tell the truth, but they poison the well with lies too, or they keep us distracted from who is behind it all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truther79 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 32 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: It's frustrating because they still mostly tell the truth, but they poison the well with lies too, or they keep us distracted from who is behind it all. True. I feel that usually the truth is somewhere in the middle... It's definitely a problem though amongst us in the truth community that some indulge and love some of the fear porn out there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 you need to try to determine the credibility of who is putting the info out there in the same way you need to determine the credibility of who is carrying out hit pieces on the info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebornsteve Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 minute ago, bamboozooka said: you need to try to determine the credibility of who is putting the info out there in the same way you need to determine the credibility of who is carrying out hit pieces on the info I suggest that the focus should be to determine the credibility of the information. Playing the ball and not the man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 minute ago, rebornsteve said: I suggest that the focus should be to determine the credibility of the information. Playing the ball and not the man? I checked out a few things (not all) of what the guy in the interview was saying. Seems to add up so far, but I don't have time to go through it all. At the moment, I'm not prepared to give him a full reach around, but I'm happy to blow him a kiss in a gentle breeze 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, rebornsteve said: I suggest that the focus should be to determine the credibility of the information. Playing the ball and not the man? alrighty then charlie ward is pushing the vid. just need simon parkes to post a link to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebornsteve Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, bamboozooka said: alrighty then charlie ward is pushing the vid. just need simon parkes to post a link to it. You are now focusing on the subs bench. Try and focus on the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truther79 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Out of interest...how many of you guys are on Telegram? Seriously thinking of coming of it due to the amount of questionable content on there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, truther79 said: Out of interest...how many of you guys are on Telegram? Seriously thinking of coming of it due to the amount of questionable content on there I was there. There is a lot of good stuff posted, but the amount of absolute unsourced shit that buries makes it really hard to verify anything. It's great for things like violent protests, because you get some great raw footage coming in, but beyond that, it's 5% quality, 95% shit. Well not exactly shit, but for example people post videos, with no link to the original. Then I spend minutes or even hours trying to find the fucking original. Drives me nuts. Edited April 13, 2022 by DarianF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truther79 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, DarianF said: I was there. There is a lot of good stuff posted, but the amount of absolute unsourced shit that buries makes it really hard to verify anything. It's great for things like violent protests, because you get some great raw footage coming in, but beyond that, it's 5% quality, 95% shit. Well not exactly shit, but for example people post videos, with no link to the original. Then I spend minutes or even hours trying to find the fucking original. Drives me nuts. So what you're saying is...you're on the fence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, truther79 said: So what you're saying is...you're on the fence I'll take my ex-girlfriend's side on this one. I'm rambling shit and have no fucking idea what I'm talking about. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 34 minutes ago, bamboozooka said: alrighty then charlie ward is pushing the vid. just need simon parkes to post a link to it. And then we know it's utter bollocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, DarianF said: but beyond that, it's 5% quality, 95% shit. That's the internet for you. I'd apply that to the whole net not just telegram. In fact, I'd say it's more 75/25 horse shit and truth on the wider web. Edited April 13, 2022 by Morpheus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Morpheus said: That's the internet for you. I'd apply that to the whole net not just telegram. I'm fact, I'd say it's more 75/25 horse shit and truth on the wider web. It takes a little effort to sort the shit from the credible, but it's not that hard if you have the time and proper parameters for credible evidence ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Demon-Haunted_World#Baloney_detection_kit ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarkov Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 2 hours ago, DarianF said: It takes a little effort to sort the shit from the credible, but it's not that hard if you have the time and proper parameters for credible evidence ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Demon-Haunted_World#Baloney_detection_kit ). His parting statement was that the "theory" of evolution, big bang and germ theory are credible. I would have chosen someone credible like Dr Lanka and his recent demonstration that no "virus" needs be present to obtain the same results as with so called virus! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusOmouse Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, rwkt said: Email sent to me this morning from clive de carle The counter argument, it's not the water it's 5g clive de carle Exposing Stew Peters, Bryan Ardis Bullshit Video Watch The Water 67 2950 Views https://brandnewtube.com/watch/exposing-stew-peters-bryan-ardis-bullshit-video-watch-the-water_75zjGt144hoPQ2b.html?utm_source=Pabbly&utm_medium=email&utm_content=The%20counter%20argument%2C%20it%27s%20not%20the%20water%20it%27s%205g&utm_campaign=Here%20is%20the%20counter%20argument%20to%20Watch%20the%20water%2C%20that%20it%27s%20actually%20just%205G%20and%20they%27re%20trying%20to%20find%20a%20distraction. So, I watched this rebuttal. Here are a few personal observations. Firstly, I agree wholly with this woman's contention that covid as a pathogenic virus is all bs. She correctly states IMO that the biological genius formerly known as the common cold , then flu, then covid 19 is in fact the human immune systems natural bi annual response to its terrain. . She doesn't seem to understand however that this is probably the hardest thing for people to come to terms with , including doubtless multitudes on this forum, or Stew Peters, or Dr Ardis ,or countless millions, most of whom are only just beginning to see thru the lies of this entire covid hoax It's quite a step from understanding that this whole thing has been blown out of all proportion, to understanding that germ theory is horseshit and that viruses are in most cases the polar opposite of what they have been told they are. Rather like Clif high, she then goes on to suggest that the interview implies that snake venom is going into the water supply. I might need to watch this again, but what I heard is that certain, specific, synthetically derived toxins from the spike proteins of these snakes are what is being injected into our bodies, or given in the form of remdesevir. This in turn will of course have the additional bonus of adjusting our human DNA given that it changes the codes of our RNA. I was finally disappointed with her crass dismissal of all the etymology, symbolism and psynchromysticism involved in the story that Dr Ardis related. We do need to understand that every story is your own unique story. Maybe she hasn't quite got that indisputable truth yet. Take from each what you will. That is true nuance. Edited to add that I also agree with her on 5g. More grist for the mill of terrain theory. Edited April 13, 2022 by MarcusOmouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 4 hours ago, truther79 said: Is anyone getting to the point where they are tired of all the conspiracy updates and "MUST WATCH" or "Emergency Broadcast" videos by so-called "in the know" celebrities of the alternative news? I've come to the conclusion that there is so much nonsense spouted now that it's pretty much impossible to discern the absolute truth with any certainty. Merely have a good idea where the agenda is headed and that's about it. It has certainly been my belief for some time now that as much as there is 'fake news' in the mainstream media, there is just as much fake news within the 'alternative media'. You can almost guarantee that anything labelled "MUST WATCH" or uses other terms such as "BOMBSHELL", "URGENT" or even the old "watch before it gets deleted", is probably just as bullshit as what the mainstream media feeds us daily. 2 hours ago, truther79 said: Out of interest...how many of you guys are on Telegram? Seriously thinking of coming of it due to the amount of questionable content on there I don't do Telegram. It has also been a long held belief of mine that this is the source of much of the misinfo/disinfo as it is so easy to spread. Numerous Telegram groups share this questionable content without question, and then it ends up on 'conspiracy forums' such as this one. 4 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: It's frustrating because they still mostly tell the truth, but they poison the well with lies too, or they keep us distracted from who is behind it all. Exactly, there are probably some elements of truth, but wrapped up in wads of bullshit - designed to make the 'genuine' researchers and commentators look foolish, as well as make all of us 'conspiracy theorists' look like idiots for promoting this rubbish. A couple of years ago now, I read two books written by Andrew Johnson about 9/11, "Finding The Truth" and "Holding The Truth". At the time, I found them a bit tedious, as he spent so much time whining about other 9/11 conspiracy theorists, but now I realise what an important read these were, as things that he complained about back then are still happening, with different 'factions' of alternative reserachers 'competing' with each other with their versions of the 'truth'. Muddying the waters and all that. And of course deflecting and diverting people's focus away from the matter at hand. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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