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11 hours ago, alexa said:

 

And if they are anything like the country parks near me, you have to pay to get in :classic_angry:

I never used to get there until about 00.30 to 01.00, and I never saw a keeper or a copper, only dozens of those 'Pesky Wabbits' 🤫

 

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15 hours ago, alexa said:

 

And if they are anything like the country parks near me, you have to pay to get in :classic_angry:

 

You've clearly never been anywhere near Birmingham. Both the Lickey Hills and Waseley Hills, as well as other 'country parks' in and around Birmingham, are free to enter and wander around. You only ever get 'stung financially' if you pop into one of the 'visitor centres' for a bite to eat. 😁

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On 2/28/2023 at 8:46 PM, Grumpy Owl said:

I must admit that I saw something this morning that made me feel a little bit sad about this...

 

While on the bus to work this morning, we'd stopped in Sparkhill to pick up a load of passengers, and in the queue of traffic alongside us was some livestock-carrying truck. From my vantage point up on the top deck, I could see into this truck, owing to the open slats on the side, and I could see it was full of sheep... absolutely rammed I must add.

Poor things were all stood up, squashed against each other - a bit like some of the buses I have travelled on recently! - and I did think it looked a bit inhumane.

 

I don't know where they were ultimately heading towards, probably some halal slaughter house or other abbatoir is a good guess, or from where they had been transported, but I did feel sorry for the poor things.

 

It hasn't changed my mind about eating meat, that is ultimately what these animals are bred and reared for, that is their 'purpose'. What I care most about is that these animals should be properly looked after and cared for during their short lives, and it was a bit undignifying to see them all cramped together like this.

It's nothing new though. Sheep were packed into waggons on two shelves back in the 70s - even if they were just going to a new farm (not just to slaughter). I used to help unload them

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1 hour ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

You've clearly never been anywhere near Birmingham. Both the Lickey Hills and Waseley Hills, as well as other 'country parks' in and around Birmingham, are free to enter and wander around. You only ever get 'stung financially' if you pop into one of the 'visitor centres' for a bite to eat. 😁

My dad's ashes were half on the Lickey Hills and half in the temple of Mithras on Hadrian's Wall. Both free to get in (but not to park)

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1 hour ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

You've clearly never been anywhere near Birmingham. Both the Lickey Hills and Waseley Hills, as well as other 'country parks' in and around Birmingham, are free to enter and wander around. You only ever get 'stung financially' if you pop into one of the 'visitor centres' for a bite to eat. 😁

 

Lucky you, where I live we had wonderful beach that we could visit at anytime until they decided to build a country park around it, now you can't pass the barrier without paying £5 plus season tickets cost something like £50. 

 

Oh BTW I was born in WestBromwhich :classic_biggrin:

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1 hour ago, alexa said:

 

Lucky you, where I live we had wonderful beach that we could visit at anytime until they decided to build a country park around it, now you can't pass the barrier without paying £5 plus season tickets cost something like £50. 

 

Oh BTW I was born in WestBromwhich :classic_biggrin:

My wife loves to visit West Bromwich market on the tram when we have a few days in Brum at the Travelodge near the Bullring.👍

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5 hours ago, Mr Crabtree said:

My wife loves to visit West Bromwich market on the tram when we have a few days in Brum at the Travelodge near the Bullring.👍

 

I didn't know they had trams in WestBomwhich :classic_unsure: But saying this I haven't been back for quite a while as we are now living in South Wales, where Welsh Lamb will never go off the Menu. 

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2 hours ago, alexa said:

 

I didn't know they had trams in WestBomwhich :classic_unsure: But saying this I haven't been back for quite a while as we are now living in South Wales, where Welsh Lamb will never go off the Menu. 

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Stops more or less opposite West Brom market!👍 Does the Welsh lamb still glow in the dark, curtesy of the Chernobyl fallout that landed on parts of Wales years back? I love Wales, I saw Moby Dick' at the local cinema thinking it was a documentary about the diseases Welsh hill farmers could catch from being too friendly with their sheep on cold winter nights!🤭  But it turned out to be a film about a great big fish! Is it true that Welsh hill farmers now wear kilts because the sheep have become wary of the noise trouser zips make? 

 

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PARTY WEAR FOR HILL FARMERS!

Joking apart though, years back we went to see a Welsh smallholding up a big track, across a ford and up into the hills at a place outside Aberystwyth called Pontefendegraid { not sure if this is how you spell it } my two girls were horrified when I told them that this was the

school uniform. They said they would run away from home rather than dress like that!🤭

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The man who used to live there had committed suicide and once my wife heard about that, she refused to move there!

 

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6 hours ago, alexa said:

 

I didn't know they had trams in WestBomwhich :classic_unsure: But saying this I haven't been back for quite a while as we are now living in South Wales, where Welsh Lamb will never go off the Menu. 

I have to tell you about my brother, for thirty long years he supported West Bromwich Albion, went to every game and bought all the merchandise!👍 One day he said to his Wife 'I can't do this any more, they're crap'! He jumped in his car, drove to their grounds and nailed his season ticket, and a note saying 'FUCK YOU'! to the main gates, got back into his car and drove home! Later on when he'd calmed down he had a re-think and decided he'd been a bit hasty, and anyway he'd miss his mates and the pies and hot Bovril he used to buy, so he jumped into his car and drove back to the grounds again! This is the sad part of the story, hankies at the ready please, he got to the gates, and some rotten, lowlife, thieving bastard had only gone a nicked THE NAIL!🥴

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6 hours ago, Mr Crabtree said:

PARTY WEAR FOR HILL FARMERS!

Joking apart though, years back we went to see a Welsh smallholding up a big track, across a ford and up into the hills at a place outside Aberystwyth called Pontefendegraid { not sure if this is how you spell it } my two girls were horrified when I told them that this was the

school uniform. They said they would run away from home rather than dress like that!🤭

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The man who used to live there had committed suicide and once my wife heard about that, she refused to move there!

 

I never know if your joking or not ? :classic_biggrin:

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1 hour ago, alexa said:

 

I never know if your joking or not ? :classic_biggrin:

Nope, deadly serious this time, my wife's uncle lived along the coast from Aberystwyth and he took us up there to look at the place in his old l;ongbase Landrover we had a Cortina estate back then, and the ruts would have killed it in a few miles! Fred was one of those blokes who couldn't read very well, but it seemed as if everything he touched he could make cash from, ranging from old bikes he did up and sold to small fishing boats he bought and sold on after a bit of T.L.C. I actually cried at his funeral, and that was very unusual for me, he wasn't particularly old either, only about sixty! They never had any kids, but they had four retrievers and they lived the life of Riley with uncle Fred and auntie Sylvia! She was the one who always looked ill, whilst Fred always looked hale and hearty, and Sylvia was the one who reached her mid eighties! She used to go for long bike rides with their neighbour Ian and within three, four months of Fred dying he sold up and moved in with her!😳 Anyway, I liked the look of the place, but my family didn't, the 'house' was basically a tin prefab type building, I thought it had potential, my wife and kids that it was creepy, we never moved there, that was in the late eighties, but we moved to Brighton in the late nineties, 'swings and roundabouts' I suppose!   Enough of this serious talk, swings and roundabouts played a big part for a bloke in our street too, a judge ordered a restraining order for him to keep a five hundred metre distance from any swings and roundabouts in this country!😳

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20 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

You've clearly never been anywhere near Birmingham. Both the Lickey Hills and Waseley Hills, as well as other 'country parks' in and around Birmingham, are free to enter and wander around. You only ever get 'stung financially' if you pop into one of the 'visitor centres' for a bite to eat. 😁

Last year, I got stung badly by some bees, £18.50 for a tiny jar of honey!😲

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