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2 hours ago, Bombadil said:

Maybe it would be good to have a counter covid thread. One where members who feel the narrative is true, or the best part of it, can post their own evidence to play devil advocate. for example.

 

so that people can all describe their latest bout of the flu? lol

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12 minutes ago, Firebird said:

At some point you'll have to go through it yourself or maybe ask if you can tag along in a lab. It's your call.

 

I actually went out of my way to contract it, i even wore the same mask when i had to for well over a year, i can tell you that mask is rancid biological health hazard and yet i am not dead or affected.

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1 hour ago, sock muppet said:

 

I actually went out of my way to contract it, i even wore the same mask when i had to for well over a year, i can tell you that mask is rancid biological health hazard and yet i am not dead or affected.

 

But according to you the virus doesn't exist so how can you contract it?

 

I don't wear masks either.

 

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Just now, Firebird said:

 

But according to you the virus doesn't exist so how can you contract it?

 

I don't wear masks either.

 

 

To prove what i already knew so that others could see through the deception, i was so confident in my analysis, but did you squeal like a schoolgirl with wet knickers saying, save me big pharma, save me.

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Tryin to get my head around the statement earlier than the vaccinations are the cause of covid. Horse before cart, I think.

 

Covid never existed in the way that MSM and PTB have claimed, and the test/jabs were the delivery method for whatever crap they wanted inside people. Plus all the mental trauma and fear porn experiments from SAGE.

 

Have we got something better to discuss than raking over bollocks again?

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6 minutes ago, Firebird said:

It's ABC with you..... ''Anything But Corona''

You just can't fathom that unvaxxed people can catch the virus. YOu have told yourself it must be shredding, 5G or something else. It's the ABC belief.

 

pretty much yes

 

When the whole thing started i was working on the assumption that something WAS happening because it all started in wuhan which also just happened to be the place where china began their 5G roll out trials. Hubai province was given complete 5G coverage. So that seemed like a strange coincidence

 

The other aspect that peaked my interest was the idea that areas that were hard hit like northern italy had also had a flu vaccine roll out particularly amongst their elderly but northern italy also had 5G.

 

I still believe that these things can have negative health impacts that can now all be brushed under the 'covid' carpet

 

The pirate council said from the very start of this (posts lost in the hack) that the whole point of this exercise was to get jabs into people and that the jabs were a bioweapon. That belief has remained throughout

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1 hour ago, sock muppet said:

 

To prove what i already knew so that others could see through the deception, i was so confident in my analysis, but did you squeal like a schoolgirl with wet knickers saying, save me big pharma, save me.

 

You think you know something but you really don't. If after two years you still can't accept there is an actual virus hitting (and hurting) people than you live in a bubble. I never denied the existence of the virus but true I did belittle its impact. Nothing like going through an experience yourself.

 

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1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

the whole point of this exercise was to get jabs into people and that the jabs were a bioweapon. That belief has remained throughout

 

And is still on the menu, one of the reasons for the desperate fear mongering to get everyone injected is to hide the fact that it never was a virus, and i can be living proof of this because whatever affects those now injected i will not be and many more like myself.

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1 minute ago, Firebird said:

 

You think you know something but you really don't. If after two years you still can't accept there is an actual virus hitting (and hurting) people than you live in a bubble. I never denied the existence of the virus but true I did belittle its impact. Nothing like going through an experience yourself.

 

 

You are living proof of just how deep brainwashing can be, you still have not answered my question of whether you can accept the chemical analysis as the cause?

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1 minute ago, Firebird said:

You think you know something but you really don't. If after two years you still can't accept there is an actual virus hitting (and hurting) people than you live in a bubble. I never denied the existence of the virus but true I did belittle its impact. Nothing like going through an experience yourself.

 

well to play devils advocate here....you didn't have the jabs, you got flu-like symptoms of a deadly contagion and were sick-a-bed for a week

 

BUT.....somehow you have miraculously survived this terrible global pandemic

 

so.....should we have alll locked down (prison term) for two years and scared the bejesus out of society over these flu-like symptoms you experienced?

 

have we all become so WEAK that we live in fear of being sick-a-bed for a week?

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

pretty much yes

 

When the whole thing started i was working on the assumption that something WAS happening because it all started in wuhan which also just happened to be the place where china began their 5G roll out trials. Hubai province was given complete 5G coverage. So that seemed like a strange coincidence

 

 

 

There are so many correlations we can find. I haven't seen any evidence that 5G is creating coronavirus. This isn't the first time a virus came from China and it won't be the last. Was the SARS outbreak related to the Gibraltar referendum in 2002?

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1 hour ago, sock muppet said:

 

And is still on the menu, one of the reasons for the desperate fear mongering to get everyone injected is to hide the fact that it never was a virus, and i can be living proof of this because whatever affects those now injected i will not be and many more like myself.

 

At this point only the elderly are likely to take a booster (second one no less). Many others do it for convenience, so they can travel.

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2 minutes ago, Firebird said:

There are so many correlations we can find. I haven't seen any evidence that 5G is creating coronavirus.

 

You're perverting what has been said, now what about the chemical analysis as the cause

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1 hour ago, The Old Knight said:

 

For those of you who haven't seen this video here's proof you can't use the PCR as a diagnostic tool.

 

It cannot detect ConJob-19 or any other virus. 

 

Kary Mullis - Inventor of the PCR & Nobel prize winner. 

 

 

 

But is a 1996 video enough proof of what you say? What if the tests have improved as well as mapping viruses?

 

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1 hour ago, sock muppet said:

 

You're perverting what has been said, now what about the chemical analysis as the cause

 

So how is 5G causing coronavirus?

What I see is another correlation here. Many people in one place = crowded place. More likely in the cities. More people there. More 5G implementation there. So is there a causal relationship? Where's the proof that there is causation?

 

 

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So how is 5G causing coronavirus?

What I see is another correlation here. Many people in one place = crowded place. More likely in the cities. More people there. More 5G implementation there. So is there a causal relationship? Where's the proof that there is causation?

 

Look this is not a pissing contest, what has been stated is that microwave radiation causes SYMPTOMS, which is a massive difference to what you are saying to pervert the statement by saying it causes viruses

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12 minutes ago, Firebird said:

There are so many correlations we can find. I haven't seen any evidence that 5G is creating coronavirus.

 

prior to all of this the microwaves expert barrie trower said that he had been told by a system insider that microwaves can be used to activate dormant viruses

 

so when this thing happened at the same time as the much anticipated 5G roll out it all seemed pretty suspect

 

I considered the possibility that viruses could have been seeded through aerosol spraying from planes aka 'chemtrails' that could have landed in reservoirs, food crops, water courses, peoples gardens, cities etc and that these could then be activated by different microwave frequencies

 

I'm not saying that this is definately what i think is happening, i'm just saying that this was something i was thinking about BEFORE this whole thing even started so that when it did start......well it became a distinct possibility in my mind

 

But i keep a lot of possibilities open in my mind simultaneously. It keeps me from becoming too dogmatic. i then explore those possibilities as evidence comes in

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7 minutes ago, Firebird said:

But is a 1996 video enough proof of what you say? What if the tests have improved as well as mapping viruses?

 

A court in portugal actually ruled that the PCR test was not viable:

Covid PCR test reliability doubtful – Portugal judges

The PCR test “is unable to determine, beyond reasonable doubt, that a positive result corresponds, in fact, to the infection of a person by the SARS-CoV-2 virus”, said the Lisbon Court of Appeal.

in News · 27 Nov 2020 ·

While the court has deemed the test to be unreliable, medical experts have hit back against these claims, stating the judges have acted “irresponsibly” in their ruling.

The initial decision, which was made on 11 November, related to an appeal by the Regional Health Administration of the Azores, following a request for habeas corpus - immediate release - of four German citizens who had been forced by the health authority to comply with isolation for 14 days in the hotel room

According to the process: “There is no evidence that this diagnosis was actually carried out by a professional qualified under the Law and who had acted in accordance with good medical practices”. These acts are reserved for the exclusive competence of a doctor.

“The only element that appears in the proven facts is the performance of RT-PCR tests, one of which presented a positive result in relation to one of the applicants”, reads the document.

The judges quoted a paper published in The Lancet by Elena Surkova, Vladyslav Nikolayevskyy and Francis Drobniewski, which stated: “Any diagnostic test result should be interpreted in the context of the pretest probability of disease. For COVID 19, the pretest probability assessment includes symptoms, previous medical history of COVID-19 or presence of antibodies, any potential exposure to COVID-19, and likelihood of an alternative diagnosis. When low pretest probability exists, positive results should be interpreted with caution and a second specimen tested for confirmation.

The paper continues: “Prolonged viral RNA shedding, which is known to last for weeks after recovery, can be a potential reason for positive swab tests in those previously exposed to SARS-CoV-2. However, importantly, no data suggests that detection of low levels of viral RNA by RT-PCR equates with infectivity unless infectious virus particles have been confirmed with laboratory culture based methods.

“To summarise, false-positive COVID-19 swab test results might be increasingly likely in the current epidemiological climate in the UK, with substantial consequences at the personal, health system, and societal levels (panel).”

https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/2020-11-27/covid-pcr-test-reliability-doubtful-portugal-judges/56962

 

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

prior to all of this the microwaves expert barrie trower said that he had been told by a system insider that microwaves can be used to activate dormant viruses

 

so when this thing happened at the same time as the much anticipated 5G roll out it all seemed pretty suspect

 

I considered the possibility that viruses could have been seeded through aerosol spraying from planes aka 'chemtrails' that could have landed in reservoirs, food crops, water courses, peoples gardens, cities etc and that these could then be activated by different microwave frequencies

 

I'm not saying that this is definately what i think is happening, i'm just saying that this was something i was thinking about BEFORE this whole thing even started so that when it did start......well it became a distinct possibility in my mind

 

But i keep a lot of possibilities open in my mind simultaneously. It keeps me from becoming too dogmatic. i then explore those possibilities as evidence comes in

 

Why is it so controversial to you that viruses spread from one person to the next, with sneezing, coughing and shouting? Even more so in small rooms. Many people caught it after a visit to a restaurant, pub or direct contact in general with someone infected. It is the simplest explanation and you consider it the least likely. It all points to the same direction, a virus spread through the usual ways. Occam's razor anyone.

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Firebird said:

 

But is a 1996 video enough proof of what you say? What if the tests have improved as well as mapping viruses?

 

 

PCR is not a "test" lose the test part that's what the media keeps repeating. 

 

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Polymerase chain reaction 

 

Polymerase chain reaction is a method widely used to rapidly make millions to billions of copies of a specific DNA sample, allowing scientists to take a very small sample of DNA and amplify it to a large enough amount to study in detail.

 

Watch the video again and listen to what Kary Mullis said. Then think about how much genetic information a nose swab will have on it, then rapidly amplify that multiple times over.

 

What you're looking for you can claim to exist even if it's not there because you've now made a genetic soup of information that's ginormous in order to get a positive match.

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3 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

No ordinary joe talks about "causation".

 

When is the 77th's nightcap due.

 

'but correlation doesn't prove causation'' is the line i have heard trotted out online by the people trolling me whenever i have criticised vaccines over the last decade+

 

which is a way in which they taunt you as it is effectively saying that unless you can describe the exact mechanism through which the vaccines damage people then you have no case

 

but the scientists themselves say they don't understand things like 'molecular mimicry' which is a vague term they created to mean that they know something harmful is happening but can't (or won't) define exactly how that is caused

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

'but correlation doesn't prove causation'' is the line i have heard trotted out online by the people trolling me whenever i have criticised vaccines over the last decade+

 

which is a way in which they taunt you as it is effectively saying that unless you can describe the exact mechanism through which the vaccines damage people then you have no case

 

but the scientists themselves say they don't understand things like 'molecular mimicry' which is a vague term they created to mean that they know something harmful is happening but can't (or won't) define exactly how that is caused

 

That all reads like resentment to me....

 

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8 minutes ago, Firebird said:

Many people caught it after a visit to a restaurant, pub or direct contact in general with someone infected

 

Again where is your evidence of who got what and how, you're talking complete bollox's.

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2 minutes ago, Firebird said:

Why is it so controversial to you that viruses spread from one person to the next, with sneezing, coughing and shouting? Even more so in small rooms. Many people caught it after a visit to a restaurant, pub or direct contact in general with someone infected. It is the simplest explanation and you consider it the least likely. Occam's razor anyone.

 

Occam's razor doesn't always apply

 

You are speaking to conspiracy theorists here. We don't believe these things happen because of incompetency. We believe they happen by design

 

So to answer your point about viruses spreading i see this whole covid thing as a cooked up hysteria to fool people into taking the jabs. Its all about getting that bioweapon into people. Other things are achieved too such as the controlled demolition of the economy and the trampling of peoples natural law rights

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