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2 hours ago, novymir said:

Still then,,,,why are >you< here ?!?!? At davidicke.com ?

 

 

ps; I guess you don't know why He said; "...“Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. But small is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life, and only a few find it.".

 

There's your "consensus", your "majority", your "well cited" people(Pharisaic "authorities"), all them are still clinging to illusions, and it's a dead-end.

 

ps;ps; you're a bonehead...I used to believe in the lie. I'm BEYOND it now.

 

 

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Who is the ''He'' ? Are you religious? Religion is dumb.

 

Viruses exist, you better accept it. What will you do when a rabid dog licks or bites you? Pretend it doesn't exist and when you get sick you tell yourself it's you detoxing? lol. It's disinfo, what you're doing, and for all you know someone could read it, one day get bitten by a frothing stray dog and thinks ''oh yeah, viruses don't exist'' when symptoms kick in, thinking prayer or a detox will do the trick. Bad call bro. Be mindful about the topic.

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm not going to read this thread through fully, but i'll say this.

 

About 2 months ago my partner and i were both ill and tested 'positive' for a supposed virus that the test was supposedly designed to test for.

Woke up one morning feeling mildly feverish. Went to play snooker with a friend, pretty much all good. Went home to eat, and then felt very feverish, for a couple of hours was shivering and then burning up for the rest of the evening. That was more or less it, though it lingered for a week or more. I tried to call into work on the sunday to get monday off, but couldn''t get through. I figured they couldn't get cover in time, and if i called in i'd have to take the whole week off (which i didn't want to do), so i went in as normal, just feeling very tried at the end of each day (in that week i was walking an hour every day to and from work as well). No cold symptoms what so ever. Just muscle aches and initial fever.

 

So did i have 'covid'? Maybe. But in any other year when covid wasn't a thing, this short illness would have been forgotten about pretty quickly, like any other cold or flu type virus. If someone asked me about being ill this year i'd have vaguely recalled it, not putting much stock into it. Could have happened any year. The fact that i tested 'positive' for something is irrelevant because i have no other data to accompany this one piece of data. How do i know that in previous years when i've had a flu type virus that i wouldn't have tested 'positive' then also? I do not, so i cannot say with any certainty that my result had anything to do with what i tested for. Given that my symptoms were by and large different to other people's, i can't even say for certainty that we had the same thing.

 

In conclusion i got mildly ill. i don't know if it was 'covid'. If it was, it confirmed some suspicions of it being a mild virus. If it wasn't (and the pcr is a fraudulent test - we know it is) then covid was misattributed to some basic illnesses (which you do not take an EXPERIMENTAL gene altering injection for).

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1 hour ago, Firebird said:

 

Who is the ''He'' ? Are you religious? Religion is dumb.

 

Viruses exist, you better accept it. What will you do when a rabid dog licks or bites you? Pretend it doesn't exist and when you get sick you tell yourself it's you detoxing? lol. It's disinfo, what you're doing, and for all you know someone could read it, one day get bitten by a frothing stray dog and thinks ''oh yeah, viruses don't exist'' when symptoms kick in, thinking prayer or a detox will do the trick. Bad call bro. Be mindful about the topic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hmm so apart from all the arguing and quoting obvious people who were bought out months ago by the plandemic instigators, like Joe Rogan or Alex Jones, all you really have are a bunch of labels and a belief system. Your belief system makes you sick, along side deliberate poisons which are put in food, the atmosphere, water, jabs, pharma and various other methods. Its not a virus. Virus theory was debunked in the 1800's. The fact that it is being used to control an entire planets' population should tell you all you need to know.

Poisons come in many formats; oral, air driven, jabs, ingested, topical and electro magnetic to name but a few. 

 

Just because someone slaps a label on something does not make it true. Just because they wheel out mind controlled paid off spokespeople whose job it is to blend truth and fiction so that the populace can no longer tell what is either, does not mean its real. Its only real IF you believe it to be.

Finally, just because you have had a mystery disease that you have not had before, but the media label it as 'covid' does not make it true. More likely, it is a one of the test bio weapons that have been used recently. Or, you have become more sensitive to EMF, which, most folks are bombarded with now due to all the 'smart' crap tech. Go look up the symptoms for that....I think you will  find they are very similar to the 'covid' symptoms.

 

Another reason for ill health and outside poisons is metal build up in the body, which you can die from btw.

 

I have personally met MANY people with this problem, particularly Americans. Smart meters are extremely dangerous to humans for example. 

 

Everything they do to us is a poison of one form or another, even the mind control. Some are stronger than others and can recover or cope better.

 

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9 hours ago, RobinJ said:

 

 Its not a virus. Virus theory was debunked in the 1800's. The fact that it is being used to control an entire planets' population should tell you all you need to know.

 

 

No that doesn't say anything!! That's spite talking!!! Just because they impose certain restrictions does not mean the virus can't exist.

Also, not ''debunked'' at all.

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7 hours ago, Firebird said:

 

No that doesn't say anything!! That's spite talking!!! Just because they impose certain restrictions does not mean the virus can't exist.

Also, not ''debunked'' at all.

 

Yep Im afraid it was debunked not long after it was invented, along with vaccine theory and others. Go do some research, if you can still find it. Imposed restrictions have nothing to do with truth. Truth is often a bitter pill which many just cannot swallow.

 

The truth has zero to do with spite or accusations of of spite or other nonsense. Blind faith in anything pushed via the idiots who think they are in control is ridiculous. If you are unable to open your eyes and even consider a different opinion, or send an anger response when someone challenges your thought processes perhaps you may need to wake up a bit more and spend more time reflecting rather than reacting.

5 hours ago, Bombadil said:

Can I remind everyone to back up opinions with evidence. 

Kinda difficult to always do that when stuff is being constantly scrubbed off the internet.

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On 4/24/2022 at 9:00 PM, sock muppet said:

 

But would you not class crystals as toxins/toxic, and also a way that the body purges it's self by trying to dissolve the little baskits, i could imagine this to be the case as i would imagine that not all crystals are good for you when ingested somehow, the movie Andromeda strain comes to mind and the crux of the story was that the wino and the baby survived because the Ph of the blood dissolved the toxin, can't remember if it was acidic or alkaline.

excellent discussion going on here, from my understanding a body cannot get sick normally if its alkaline, most dis=ease is cause as the diet is to acidic which in a round about way has already been pointed out here. I learnt this from my teacher lol, if your a heavy meat eater for example your body is acidic. add stress lack of movement stale air bad diets what you have is a prime overload of acid and guess what these fuckers did for last few years., yeah we already know enjoying this discussion kind regards

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4 hours ago, RobinJ said:

 

Yep Im afraid it was debunked not long after it was invented, along with vaccine theory and others. Go do some research, if you can still find it. Imposed restrictions have nothing to do with truth. Truth is often a bitter pill which many just cannot swallow.

 

The truth has zero to do with spite or accusations of of spite or other nonsense. Blind faith in anything pushed via the idiots who think they are in control is ridiculous. If you are unable to open your eyes and even consider a different opinion, or send an anger response when someone challenges your thought processes perhaps you may need to wake up a bit more and spend more time reflecting rather than reacting.

Kinda difficult to always do that when stuff is being constantly scrubbed off the internet.

No worries

 

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54 minutes ago, karmaxxxx said:

excellent discussion going on here, from my understanding a body cannot get sick normally if its alkaline, most dis=ease is cause as the diet is to acidic which in a round about way has already been pointed out here. I learnt this from my teacher lol, if your a heavy meat eater for example your body is acidic. add stress lack of movement stale air bad diets what you have is a prime overload of acid and guess what these fuckers did for last few years., yeah we already know enjoying this discussion kind regards

Cancer cells can't survive in an alkaline environment. That's why it's important to test the Ph of your urine. Someone dear to me has cancer and now eats an alkaline-inducing diet and if her Ph goes into the acidic range, she'll take a bit of baking soda in water to balance things out.

 

Edit: in deference to @Tom bombadil here's a link to a natural healing site. However, conventional medicine and the drug companies have dismissed the alkaline body theory as junk science.

 

https://naturalfoodpantry.ca/blogs/mind-body/no-disease-can-exist-in-an-alkaline-environment

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4 hours ago, RobinJ said:

 

Yep Im afraid it was debunked not long after it was invented, along with vaccine theory and others. Go do some research, if you can still find it. Imposed restrictions have nothing to do with truth. Truth is often a bitter pill which many just cannot swallow.

 

The truth has zero to do with spite or accusations of of spite or other nonsense. Blind faith in anything pushed via the idiots who think they are in control is ridiculous. If you are unable to open your eyes and even consider a different opinion, or send an anger response when someone challenges your thought processes perhaps you may need to wake up a bit more and spend more time reflecting rather than reacting.

Kinda difficult to always do that when stuff is being constantly scrubbed off the internet.

foreword copied evidence of world wide scam.  The book Virus Mania by Torsten Engelbrecht and Claus Kohnlein

Foreword I The Content of This Book Has To Be Read, Quickly and Worldwide The book Virus Mania by Torsten Engelbrecht and Claus Kohnlein presents a tragic message that will, hopefully, contribute to the re-insertion of ethical values in the conduct of virus research, public health policies, media communications, and activities of the pharmaceutical companies. Obviously, elementary ethical rules have been, to a very dangerous extent, neglected in many of these fields for an alarming number of years. When American journalist Celia Farber courageously published, in Harper's Magazine (March 2006) the article "Out of control-AIDS and the corruption of medical science," some readers probably attempted to reassure themselves that this "corruption" was an isolated case. This is very far from the truth as documented so well in this book by Engelbrecht and Kohnlein. It is only the tip of the iceberg. Corruption of research is a widespread phenomenon currently found in many major, supposedly contagious health problems, ranging from AIDS to Hepatitis C, Bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE or "mad cow disease"), SARS, Avian flu and current vaccination practices (human papillomavirus or HPV vaccination). In research on all of these six distinct public health concerns scientific research on viruses (or prions in the case of BSE) slipped onto the wrong track following basically the same systematic pathway. This pathway always includes several key steps: inventing the risk of a disastrous epidemic, incriminating an elusive pathogen, ignoring alternative toxic causes, manipulating epidemiology with non-verifiable numbers to maximize the false perception of an imminent catastrophe, and promising salvation with vaccines. This guarantees large financial returns. But how is it possible to achieve all of this? Simply by relying on the most powerful activator of human decision making process, i.e. FEAR! We are not witnessing viral epidemics; we are witnessing epidemics of fear. And both the media and the pharmaceutical industry carry most of the responsibility for amplifying fears, fears that happen, incidentally, to always ignite fantastically profitable business. Research hypotheses covering these areas of virus research are practically never scientifically verified with appropriate controls. Instead, they are established by "consensus." This is then rapidly reshaped into a dogma, efficiently 11 Foreword I perpetuated in a quasi-religious manner by the media, including ensuring that research funding is restricted to projects supporting the dogma, excluding research into alternative hypotheses. An important tool to keep dissenting voices out of the debate is censorship at various levels ranging from the popular media to scientific publications. We haven't learnt well from past experiences. There are still many unanswered questions on the causes of the 1918 Spanish flu epidemic, and on the role of viruses in post-WWII polio (DDT neurotoxicity?). These modern epidemics should have opened our minds to more critical analyses. Pasteur and Koch had constructed an understanding of infection applicable to several bacterial diseases. But this was before the first viruses were actually discovered. Transposing the principles of bacterial infections to viruses was, of course, very tempting but should not have been done without giving parallel attention to the innumerable risk factors in our toxic environment; to the toxicity of many drugs, and to some nutritional deficiencies. Cancer research had similar problems. The hypothesis that cancer might be caused by viruses was formulated in 1903, more than one century ago. Even today it has never been convincingly demonstrated. Most of the experimental laboratory studies by virus-hunters have been based on the use of inbred mice, inbred implying a totally unnatural genetic background. Were these mice appropriate models for the study of human cancer? (we are far from being inbred!) True, these mice made possible the isolation and purification of "RNA tumor viruses," later renamed "retroviruses" and well characterized by electron microscopy. But are these viral particles simply associated with the murine tumors, or are they truly the culprit of malignant transformation? Are these particles real exogenous infective particles, or endogenous defective viruses hidden in our chromosomes? The question is still debatable. What is certain is that viral particles similar to those readily recognized in cancerous and leukemic mice have never been seen nor isolated in human cancers. Of mice and men ... However, by the time this became clear, in the late 1960s, viral oncology had achieved a dogmatic, quasi-religious status. If viral particles cannot be seen by electron microscopy in human cancers, the problem was with electron microscopy, not with the dogma of viral oncology! This was the time molecular biology was taking a totally dominant posture in viral research. "Molecular markers" for retroviruses were therefore invented (reverse transcriptase for example) and substituted most conveniently for the absent viral particles, hopefully salvaging the central dogma of viral oncology. This permitted the viral hypothesis to survive for another ten years, until the late 1970s, with the help of increasingly generous support from funding agencies and from pharmaceutical companies. However by 12 Foreword I 1980 the failure of this line of research was becoming embarrassingly evident, and the closing of some viral oncology laboratories would have been inevitable, except that ... Except what? Virus cancer research would have crashed to a halt except that, in 1981, five cases of severe immune deficiencies were described by a Los Angeles physician, all among homosexual men who were also all sniffing amyl nitrite, were all abusing other drugs, abusing antibiotics, and probably suffering from malnutrition and STDs (sexually transmitted diseases). It would have been logical to hypothesize that these severe cases of immune deficiency had multiple toxic origins. This would have amounted to incrimination of these patients' life-style. Unfortunately, such discrimination was, politically, totally unacceptable. Therefore, another hypothesis had to be found-these patients were suffering from a contagious disease caused by a new ... retrovirus! Scientific data in support of this hypothesis was and, amazingly enough, still is totally missing. That did not matter, and instantaneous and passionate interest of cancer virus researchers and institutions erupted immediately. This was salvation for the viral laboratories where AIDS now became, almost overnight, the main focus of research. It generated huge financial support from Big Pharma, more budget for the CDC and NIH, and nobody had to worry about the life style of the patients who became at once the innocent victims of this horrible virus, soon labeled as HIV. Twenty-five years later, the HIV 1 AIDS hypothesis has totally failed to achieve three major goals in spite of the huge research funding exclusively directed to projects based on it. No AIDS cure has ever been found; no verifiable epidemiological predictions have ever been made; and no HIV vaccine has ever been successfully prepared. Instead, highly toxic (but not curative) drugs have been most irresponsibly used, with frequent, lethal side effects. Yet not a single HIV particle has ever been observed by electron microscopy in the blood of patients supposedly having a high viral load ! So what? All the most important newspapers and magazine have displayed attractive computerized, colorful images of HIV that all originate from laboratory cell cultures, but never from even a single AIDS patient. Despite this stunning omission the HIV I AIDS dogma is still solidly entrenched. Tens of thousands of researchers, and hundreds of major pharmaceutical companies continue to make huge profits based on the HIV hypothesis. And not one single AIDS patient has ever been cured ... Yes, HIV I AIDS is emblematic of the corruption of virus research that is remarkably and tragically documented in this book. Research programs on Hepatitis C, BSE, SARS, Avian flu and current vaccination policies all developed along the same logic, that of maximizing financial profits. Whenever we try to understand how some highly questionable therapeutic policies 13 Foreword I have been recommended at the highest levels of public health authorities (WHO, CDC, RKI etc.), we frequently discover either embarrassing conflicts of interests, or the lack of essential control experiments, and always the strict rejection of any open debate with authoritative scientists presenting dissident views of the pathological processes. Manipulations of statistics, falsifications of clinical trials, dodging of drug toxicity tests have all been repeatedly documented. All have been swiftly covered up, and none have been able to, so far, disturb the cynical logic of today's virus research business. The cover-up of the neurotoxicity of the mercury containing preservative thimerosal as a highly probable cause of autism among vaccinated children apparently reached the highest levels of the US govemement ... (see article "Deadly Immunity" from Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in chapter 8) Virus Mania is a social disease of our highly developed society. To cure it will require conquering fear, fear being the most deadly contagious virus, most efficiently transmitted by the media. Errare humanum est sed diabolicum preservare . - .. (to err is human, but to preserve an error is diabolic). Etienne de Harven, MD Professor Emeritus of Pathology at the University of Toronto and Member of the Sloan Kettering Institute for Cancer Research, New York (1956 - 1981) Member of Thabo Mbeki's AIDS Advisory Panel of South Africa

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9 minutes ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

Cancer cells can't survive in an alkaline environment. That's why it's important to test the Ph of your urine. Someone dear to me has cancer and now eats an alkaline-inducing diet and if her Ph goes into the acidic range, she'll take a bit of baking soda in water to balance things out.

 

Edit: in deference to @Tom bombadil here's a link to a natural healing site. However, conventional medicine and the drug companies have dismissed the alkaline body theory as junk science.

 

https://naturalfoodpantry.ca/blogs/mind-body/no-disease-can-exist-in-an-alkaline-environment

yes bro my teacher taught pretty much that 70% alkaline 30% acid is a perfect human balance.

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10 hours ago, Bombadil said:

Can I remind everyone to back up opinions with evidence. 

hi  Tom think they can just root out the book section on this site, if not I can provide pdfs. 👍

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The root of the majority of disease is from big emotional upsets, with the exception of poisons that are introduced  in various fashions.These emotional events trigger certain parts of the brain to send messages to the body of what is the issue and where needs healing. In other words, our emotional traumas cause our disease. The symptoms we see are the result of our own body attempting to clear that away.

 

Read the thread here on German New Medicine.

 

We have the power to heal ourselves and always have had, but to do that we must rid ourselves of past emotional triggers and stop using pharma which interrupts the healing process and causes more damage both by the diagnosis alone, which sets up yet another emotional trigger on top of the existing one, and literally with the pills, potions or hatchet jobs of surgeons. All of which cause further trauma. The vast majority of pharma are generally poisons and will at best prolong the issue, and at worst, kill us slowly.

 

If you believe in covid you will manifest the symptoms you are told exist. Try not believing it and see if you feel better....

 

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11 minutes ago, RobinJ said:

The root of the majority of disease is from big emotional upsets, with the exception of poisons that are introduced  in various fashions.These emotional events trigger certain parts of the brain to send messages to the body of what is the issue and where needs healing. In other words, our emotional traumas cause our disease. The symptoms we see are the result of our own body attempting to clear that away.

 

Read the thread here on German New Medicine.

 

We have the power to heal ourselves and always have had, but to do that we must rid ourselves of past emotional triggers and stop using pharma which interrupts the healing process and causes more damage both by the diagnosis alone, which sets up yet another emotional trigger on top of the existing one, and literally with the pills, potions or hatchet jobs of surgeons. All of which cause further trauma. The vast majority of pharma are generally poisons and will at best prolong the issue, and at worst, kill us slowly.

 

If you believe in covid you will manifest the symptoms you are told exist. Try not believing it and see if you feel better....

 

Very true. When i was going through a tough time when my mom was getting sick, and the family stressors that come with it, I got really stressed out.

Then one day I was at my cousins in the UK and felt dizzy as I was about to go downstairs. She took my BP and it was very high...I had not long woken up and for me my BP has only ever gone up on two prior occasions during respective stressful periods of time.

 

Cutting to the chase, my body had produced excessive adrenaline from the stress. Adrenaline softens the heart ventricles and prevents the normal pumping of blood through the heart. Many problems can manifest from this...not least Cardiomyopathy, and body feels dreadful. If you dont resolve the BP situation you can eventually die (think George Michael and also those spouses who die within months of their husband or wife). Fortunately my cousins neighbour was a doctor and I had the right meds immediately - but it took three months for my body to return to its normal blood pressure. Blood pressure will rise in life from time to time and docs have the response that you will need BP meds for the rest of your life. This is not necessarily true as I have proven with my own body. Theres a place for meds imo....but mainly in the acute situations (just my opinion) Once the BP has regulated itself it can be ready to do the job correctly again...if the person limits or removes the stressor that started it. Stress is definitely a killer like you say Robin, I agree with you absolutely.

 

My dad is 90 and he will tell anyone " I dont worry about anything" and he doesnt...he doesnt care about much either to be honest LOL ( less said there the better)...but he is still going strong. The only problems he has had health wise is an achy neck that lasted a few weeks which he said was due to a draft, achy bones when standing up and cataracts, which he said didnt hurt at all to be removed and just laughed it off. He still drives and tells jokes, cooks for himself and goes out with his buddies once a week. Two years ago he painted his living room ceiling and the area that goes up the stairs...he calls people younger than him old :-/  My mom was several years younger than him and she has passed before him.

 

 

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Not just stress, any emotional trauma that is not dealt with on a psychological level. The bigger the trauma the more likely a serious issue will come from it. Subsequent similar shocks to the system manifest in the same place causing much bigger issues such as cancer. Stress in the womb can cause childhood disease too.

Learning how to talk ourselves back from the edge of the ledge is a very useful skill. When we feel overwhelmed ( stress) we just need to ask " what steps can I take to improve this situation?" Another way is to remove ourselves at that point so we can calm down and not elevate to the stress response. By remove I mean change our state of mind. Stop, take a breath, put some happy music on- whatever works for you to flip that switch and change your brains' response to the situation. Dont let your body get addicted to the chemical response of negative emotion or you will set yourself up for many physical and psychological problems which will be much harder to deal with later.

 

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On 4/30/2022 at 10:41 PM, Firebird said:

 

Who is the ''He'' ? Are you religious? Religion is dumb.

 

Viruses exist, you better accept it. What will you do when a rabid dog licks or bites you? Pretend it doesn't exist and when you get sick you tell yourself it's you detoxing? lol. It's disinfo, what you're doing, and for all you know someone could read it, one day get bitten by a frothing stray dog and thinks ''oh yeah, viruses don't exist'' when symptoms kick in, thinking prayer or a detox will do the trick. Bad call bro. Be mindful about the topic.

 

No rabies in this country.

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8 hours ago, RobinJ said:

Not just stress, any emotional trauma that is not dealt with on a psychological level. The bigger the trauma the more likely a serious issue will come from it. Subsequent similar shocks to the system manifest in the same place causing much bigger issues such as cancer. Stress in the womb can cause childhood disease too.

Learning how to talk ourselves back from the edge of the ledge is a very useful skill. When we feel overwhelmed ( stress) we just need to ask " what steps can I take to improve this situation?" Another way is to remove ourselves at that point so we can calm down and not elevate to the stress response. By remove I mean change our state of mind. Stop, take a breath, put some happy music on- whatever works for you to flip that switch and change your brains' response to the situation. Dont let your body get addicted to the chemical response of negative emotion or you will set yourself up for many physical and psychological problems which will be much harder to deal with later.

 

 Yes, I was lumping all in together. The emotional trauma of my moms death at the hands of a care home in March 2020 after her being sent back there from hospital was extreme. You're bang on re: the turn off switch. That, I have found is a wonderful coping mechanism. Nice post Robin.

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https://ourfreesociety.com/is-rabies-a-virus/

Is rabies a virus?

The question came up in the comment section of a video issuing a challenge to PROVE that viruses can be passed from one person to another. You can watch it here.

So I went to take a look at what Dawn and Dave had to say in their bible of a book on health and unpacking ALL the lies that have been spread for the last 300+ years by the mafia allopathic medical industry by way of the fake scientists who came up with these claims.

I’ll bet you ANYTHING these fake scientists were funded by the evils and then they invested huge amounts on their public relations campaign so everyone would think that everything these fake evil scientists said was FACT!

You can get Dave and Dawn’s book here. It’s a MUST HAVE that will explain away almost every single lie the evils have brainwashed us into believing for the last several centuries.

Since the information in their book took more than a few paragraphs, I decided to paste it here.

Rabies – The OIE definition of rabies refers to, “…a viral disease that affects the central nervous system of warm-blooded animals, including humans.”

Rabies is classified as a zoonotic disease; as the definition explains, “Rabies is one of the most deadly zoonoses. Each year, it kills nearly 60,000 people worldwide, mostly children in developing countries.”

It is claimed that rabies is present throughout all continents of the world, with the sole exception of Antarctica; however, the May 2019 WHO fact sheet entitled Rabies states that, “Rabies is one of the neglected tropical diseases that predominantly affects poor and vulnerable populations who live in remote rural locations.”

It is claimed that rabies is transmitted via an animal bite and that the overwhelming majority of cases occur due to a dog bite, which exposes a person to ‘infected’ saliva.

But this explanation does not seem to be consistent with the above statements that rabies mainly affects ‘poor and vulnerable’ children in ‘developing’ countries.

The OIE information sheet makes the interesting comment that the rabies virus is not immediately active after the bite but instead, “…will generally remain at the entry site for a period of time before travelling along the nerves to the brain.”

The WHO fact sheet refers to some of the symptoms associated with the disease. Although the initial symptoms are mild and include pain at the wound site and a fever, far more serious symptoms are said to develop later; the fact sheet explains, “As the virus spreads to the central nervous system, progressive and fatal inflammation of the brain and spinal cord develops.”

The discussion in chapter three demonstrated that the particles called ‘viruses’ are inert outside of a host cell; which means they cannot ‘travel’ around the body.

According to the fact sheet there are two forms of the disease, one of which is called ‘furious’ rabies because it is said to produce ‘hyperactive behaviour’. This behaviour may include hydrophobia, which is an alternative term for ‘fear of water’ and also the original name for rabies. The other form of the disease is called paralytic rabies, because it is claimed that the virus can induce paralysis.

The bite from an ‘infected’ animal is said to require prompt ‘treatment’, which rather unusually involves the administration of the rabies vaccine. The vast majority of vaccines are administered prior to ‘exposure’ as a preventive measure; but the rabies vaccine can be administered both before and after ‘exposure’. However, this vaccine is not routinely administered prophylactically, except for people who are considered to be ‘at risk’ from rabies; which mainly refers to people who work with animals, vets and animal researchers, for example. The rabies vaccine is used for both animals and people, although the first rabies vaccine was produced only for human use. Its development is credited to the French chemist, Louis Pasteur, and it is considered to be another of his ‘achievements’. As discussed in chapter three, Dr Geison’s research revealed that the ‘science’ of Louis Pasteur was not as meticulous as it is believed to have been; his formulation of the rabies vaccine was equally flawed.

Prior to Louis Pasteur’s study of rabies, the ‘treatments’ used for patients diagnosed with this disease were of a most bizarre nature; they owed their existence more to superstition than to ‘science’. In her book The Poisoned Needle, Eleanor McBean presents an extract from an essay entitled Rabies Past/Present in Scientific Review, written by physician and surgeon Dr Millicent Morden MD.

The essay includes reference to examples of the pre-Pasteur treatment of rabies, “In 1806 a Mr. Kraus was awarded $1000, by the then rulers of New York temtory for his scientific discovery which had kept rabies out of New York for over twenty years. His formula is a matter of record and consisted of the groundup jaw bone of an ass or dog, a piece of colt’s tongue and the green rust off a penny of George the First reign.”

These treatments would be more appropriately described using the previously cited words of William White that refer to ‘a combination of absurdity with nastiness’. In view of the absurdity of these treatments, it is not surprising that the medical establishment regards it as ‘fortunate’ that Louis Pasteur decided to turn his attention to a study of rabies. But it has not been fortunate; the experiments he conducted were similar to the previously described gruesome monkey experiments, which were claimed to demonstrate the transmission of polio. In his book entitled The Blood
Poisoners, Lionel Dole describes the nature of Louis Pasteur’s experiments, “The manner in which Pasteur made rabbits “rabid” by boring holes in their skulls and inserting filth into their brains was not science but simply brutal quackery.”

Nevertheless, it was on the basis of this brutal quackery that Louis Pasteur developed his rabies vaccine. The medical establishment references to this vaccine indicate that it was a resounding success; contemporary reports however, tell a very different story and one that again speaks of Louis Pasteur’s fundamental errors and even of fraud.

In her essay, Dr Morden refers to two medical practitioners who were contemporaries of Louis Pasteur but outspoken in their criticism of his work; as the following extracts demonstrate. The first extract refers to Dr Bruette’s exposure of the fraud of the rabies vaccine, “Dr William A. Bruette, former assistant chief of the Bureau of Animal Industry in Washington, was also a contemporary of Pasteur and gave many proofs of Pasteur’s incorrect findings. Dr Bruette has proved, as a matter of fact, that rabies vaccine is not only a fraud, but harmful. He scorns the use of rabies vaccine and
states that ‘inoculation spreads disease.’ He goes as far as to call the sale of rabies vaccine an out and out racket.”

Although 21st century vaccines are different from those used in the 19th century, they are all based on the same flawed theory. The second extract refers to Dr Woods’ exposure of a major flaw in the theory about the alleged cause of rabies, “Dr Matthew Woods, another contemporary of Pasteur, then a leading member of the Philadelphia Medical Society, wrote much on the subject of rabies. He stated, ‘…at the Philadelphia dog pound, where on an average more than 6,000 vagrant dogs are taken annually, and where the catchers and keepers are frequently bitten while handling them, not one case of hydrophobia has occurred during its entire history of twenty-five years, in which time 150,000 dogs have been handled’.”

Dr Morden cites a further quote from Dr Woods, in which he suggests alternative causes for the symptoms that are often labelled as ‘rabies’, “In animals, so-called rabies is fundamentally due to maltreatment or malnutrition or both.”

Dr Bruette and Dr Woods were by no means the only medical practitioners to disparage Louis Pasteur’s rabies vaccine; a critical view was also held by Dr George Wilson MD, President of the British Medical Society, who, at the Society’s AGM in 1899, made the following statement that was published in the British Medical Journal, “I accuse my profession of misleading the public. Pasteur’s anti-rabies vaccination is – I believe, and others with me – a piece of deception.”

Unfortunately, the rabies vaccine is far more than a piece of deception; it was, and still is a serious public health problem that poses severe health hazards for both humans and animals. It should be clear that maltreatment and malnutrition, the alternative causes suggested by Dr Woods, can be neither prevented nor treated by vaccination. The health of a person or an animal can certainly be adversely affected by vaccines. In his book, Lionel Dole expands on the many problems associated with the use of the rabies vaccine, “Pasteur cannot be proved to have saved a single life with his vaccines, but it is quite certain that many people died from his treatment of them, even when the dogs that had bitten them remained perfectly well….”

Any dogs that remained ‘perfectly well’ could not have been ‘rabid’; nevertheless, many dogs were destroyed on the basis that they had a disease that they could transmit to people, if bitten.

Although it is claimed that rabies is caused by a virus, the refutation of the ‘germ theory’ in chapter three demonstrates this to be an unfounded claim. There is, however, other evidence that also denies the viral cause of rabies, as explained by Hans Ruesch, a Swiss medical historian, who states, in his book entitled 1000 Doctors (and many more) Against Vivisection, that, “Medical students are taught that Pasteur solved the ‘problem’ of rabies in the last century – thanks to experiments on dogs. They – and the public – are not told that neither he nor his successors have ever been able to identify the virus which is supposed to cause rabies….”

Hans Ruesch’s book was first published in 1978; in other words, more than four decades after the invention of the electron microscope; this, in turn, means that there had been more than ample time for scientists to have identified the virus alleged to cause rabies. The fact that it had remained unidentified in the late 1970s demonstrates that there can be no original ‘proof’ that rabies is caused by a ‘virus’; the idea that it can be transmitted to humans through the bite of an allegedly ‘infected’ dog is similarly unproven.

In the conclusion to her essay, Dr Morden provides a summary of the mistaken ideas about the existence of an ‘infectious disease’ called rabies, “Is rabies then a disease? Have we isolated a virus or germ? Is the Pasteurtreatment specific? Is rabies, in short, fact or fancy? I believe it is fancy, for I have handled so-called rabid animals and humans without benefit of Pasteur treatment and in no case has there been a death or any other symptoms of rabies. I submit that rabies is non-existent and that the Pasteur treatment for rabies is worse than the disease, if it were a disease, which it is not.”

The claim that human rabies is a disease of the central nervous system and involves inflammation of the brain, otherwise known as encephalitis, provides an indication of some of the possible  causal agents for these symptoms; for example, the discussion about the 1918 Flu referred to cases of ‘post-vaccinal encephalitis’. Some of the possible ‘side effects’ of the rabies vaccine include pain, dizziness and nausea; more serious effects include breathing difficulties and swelling of the throat, both of which are regarded as medical emergencies and demonstrate the dangers of the
vaccine.

Although contributory factors, vaccines are not the only sources of neurotoxins to which people and animals can be exposed. However, the control of rabies is said to require animal vaccinations, mainly for dogs; in many countries these vaccines are mandatory.

Despite the belief that they are ‘lower beings’ than humans, animals also experience vaccine ‘side effects’; they can suffer stress, pain and discomfort from the vaccination process, as well as the more serious effects from their toxic ingredients.

The acknowledged ‘side effects’ include vomiting and fever, both of which are obvious signs of poisoning. The American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) provides information on the web page entitled Vaccination FAQ about the possible, common ‘side effects’ that can occur and states that some of the more serious reactions, “…can be life-threatening and are medical emergencies.”
The seriousness of these effects demonstrates the extent to which animals are at risk from the effects of vaccines, including the rabies vaccine.

Unfortunately, the OIE claims that the appropriate measure required to eradicate rabies is to, “Vaccinate at least 70% of dogs.”

Although rabies is mainly claimed to be transmitted via a dog bite, other animals are also implicated as vectors that are able to transmit the ‘virus’ alleged to cause rabies; these animals include  rats, raccoons and cats. The idea that rabies can be eradicated by only vaccinating dogs is, therefore, yet another anomaly that remains unexplained.

Despite the complete lack of evidence that it is a genuine disease, rabies continues to be considered as an important zoonosis that requires many animals, especially pets, to be subjected to vaccines; this is highly lucrative for the pharmaceutical industry but extremely detrimental to the health of both humans and animals.”

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7 minutes ago, zarkov said:

https://ourfreesociety.com/is-rabies-a-virus/

Is rabies a virus?

The question came up in the comment section of a video issuing a challenge to PROVE that viruses can be passed from one person to another. You can watch it here.

So I went to take a look at what Dawn and Dave had to say in their bible of a book on health and unpacking ALL the lies that have been spread for the last 300+ years by the mafia allopathic medical industry by way of the fake scientists who came up with these claims.

I’ll bet you ANYTHING these fake scientists were funded by the evils and then they invested huge amounts on their public relations campaign so everyone would think that everything these fake evil scientists said was FACT!

You can get Dave and Dawn’s book here. It’s a MUST HAVE that will explain away almost every single lie the evils have brainwashed us into believing for the last several centuries.

Since the information in their book took more than a few paragraphs, I decided to paste it here.

Rabies – The OIE definition of rabies refers to, “…a viral disease that affects the central nervous system of warm-blooded animals, including humans.”

Rabies is classified as a zoonotic disease; as the definition explains, “Rabies is one of the most deadly zoonoses. Each year, it kills nearly 60,000 people worldwide, mostly children in developing countries.”

It is claimed that rabies is present throughout all continents of the world, with the sole exception of Antarctica; however, the May 2019 WHO fact sheet entitled Rabies states that, “Rabies is one of the neglected tropical diseases that predominantly affects poor and vulnerable populations who live in remote rural locations.”

It is claimed that rabies is transmitted via an animal bite and that the overwhelming majority of cases occur due to a dog bite, which exposes a person to ‘infected’ saliva.

But this explanation does not seem to be consistent with the above statements that rabies mainly affects ‘poor and vulnerable’ children in ‘developing’ countries.

The OIE information sheet makes the interesting comment that the rabies virus is not immediately active after the bite but instead, “…will generally remain at the entry site for a period of time before travelling along the nerves to the brain.”

The WHO fact sheet refers to some of the symptoms associated with the disease. Although the initial symptoms are mild and include pain at the wound site and a fever, far more serious symptoms are said to develop later; the fact sheet explains, “As the virus spreads to the central nervous system, progressive and fatal inflammation of the brain and spinal cord develops.”

The discussion in chapter three demonstrated that the particles called ‘viruses’ are inert outside of a host cell; which means they cannot ‘travel’ around the body.

According to the fact sheet there are two forms of the disease, one of which is called ‘furious’ rabies because it is said to produce ‘hyperactive behaviour’. This behaviour may include hydrophobia, which is an alternative term for ‘fear of water’ and also the original name for rabies. The other form of the disease is called paralytic rabies, because it is claimed that the virus can induce paralysis.

The bite from an ‘infected’ animal is said to require prompt ‘treatment’, which rather unusually involves the administration of the rabies vaccine. The vast majority of vaccines are administered prior to ‘exposure’ as a preventive measure; but the rabies vaccine can be administered both before and after ‘exposure’. However, this vaccine is not routinely administered prophylactically, except for people who are considered to be ‘at risk’ from rabies; which mainly refers to people who work with animals, vets and animal researchers, for example. The rabies vaccine is used for both animals and people, although the first rabies vaccine was produced only for human use. Its development is credited to the French chemist, Louis Pasteur, and it is considered to be another of his ‘achievements’. As discussed in chapter three, Dr Geison’s research revealed that the ‘science’ of Louis Pasteur was not as meticulous as it is believed to have been; his formulation of the rabies vaccine was equally flawed.

Prior to Louis Pasteur’s study of rabies, the ‘treatments’ used for patients diagnosed with this disease were of a most bizarre nature; they owed their existence more to superstition than to ‘science’. In her book The Poisoned Needle, Eleanor McBean presents an extract from an essay entitled Rabies Past/Present in Scientific Review, written by physician and surgeon Dr Millicent Morden MD.

The essay includes reference to examples of the pre-Pasteur treatment of rabies, “In 1806 a Mr. Kraus was awarded $1000, by the then rulers of New York temtory for his scientific discovery which had kept rabies out of New York for over twenty years. His formula is a matter of record and consisted of the groundup jaw bone of an ass or dog, a piece of colt’s tongue and the green rust off a penny of George the First reign.”

These treatments would be more appropriately described using the previously cited words of William White that refer to ‘a combination of absurdity with nastiness’. In view of the absurdity of these treatments, it is not surprising that the medical establishment regards it as ‘fortunate’ that Louis Pasteur decided to turn his attention to a study of rabies. But it has not been fortunate; the experiments he conducted were similar to the previously described gruesome monkey experiments, which were claimed to demonstrate the transmission of polio. In his book entitled The Blood
Poisoners, Lionel Dole describes the nature of Louis Pasteur’s experiments, “The manner in which Pasteur made rabbits “rabid” by boring holes in their skulls and inserting filth into their brains was not science but simply brutal quackery.”

Nevertheless, it was on the basis of this brutal quackery that Louis Pasteur developed his rabies vaccine. The medical establishment references to this vaccine indicate that it was a resounding success; contemporary reports however, tell a very different story and one that again speaks of Louis Pasteur’s fundamental errors and even of fraud.

In her essay, Dr Morden refers to two medical practitioners who were contemporaries of Louis Pasteur but outspoken in their criticism of his work; as the following extracts demonstrate. The first extract refers to Dr Bruette’s exposure of the fraud of the rabies vaccine, “Dr William A. Bruette, former assistant chief of the Bureau of Animal Industry in Washington, was also a contemporary of Pasteur and gave many proofs of Pasteur’s incorrect findings. Dr Bruette has proved, as a matter of fact, that rabies vaccine is not only a fraud, but harmful. He scorns the use of rabies vaccine and
states that ‘inoculation spreads disease.’ He goes as far as to call the sale of rabies vaccine an out and out racket.”

Although 21st century vaccines are different from those used in the 19th century, they are all based on the same flawed theory. The second extract refers to Dr Woods’ exposure of a major flaw in the theory about the alleged cause of rabies, “Dr Matthew Woods, another contemporary of Pasteur, then a leading member of the Philadelphia Medical Society, wrote much on the subject of rabies. He stated, ‘…at the Philadelphia dog pound, where on an average more than 6,000 vagrant dogs are taken annually, and where the catchers and keepers are frequently bitten while handling them, not one case of hydrophobia has occurred during its entire history of twenty-five years, in which time 150,000 dogs have been handled’.”

Dr Morden cites a further quote from Dr Woods, in which he suggests alternative causes for the symptoms that are often labelled as ‘rabies’, “In animals, so-called rabies is fundamentally due to maltreatment or malnutrition or both.”

Dr Bruette and Dr Woods were by no means the only medical practitioners to disparage Louis Pasteur’s rabies vaccine; a critical view was also held by Dr George Wilson MD, President of the British Medical Society, who, at the Society’s AGM in 1899, made the following statement that was published in the British Medical Journal, “I accuse my profession of misleading the public. Pasteur’s anti-rabies vaccination is – I believe, and others with me – a piece of deception.”

Unfortunately, the rabies vaccine is far more than a piece of deception; it was, and still is a serious public health problem that poses severe health hazards for both humans and animals. It should be clear that maltreatment and malnutrition, the alternative causes suggested by Dr Woods, can be neither prevented nor treated by vaccination. The health of a person or an animal can certainly be adversely affected by vaccines. In his book, Lionel Dole expands on the many problems associated with the use of the rabies vaccine, “Pasteur cannot be proved to have saved a single life with his vaccines, but it is quite certain that many people died from his treatment of them, even when the dogs that had bitten them remained perfectly well….”

Any dogs that remained ‘perfectly well’ could not have been ‘rabid’; nevertheless, many dogs were destroyed on the basis that they had a disease that they could transmit to people, if bitten.

Although it is claimed that rabies is caused by a virus, the refutation of the ‘germ theory’ in chapter three demonstrates this to be an unfounded claim. There is, however, other evidence that also denies the viral cause of rabies, as explained by Hans Ruesch, a Swiss medical historian, who states, in his book entitled 1000 Doctors (and many more) Against Vivisection, that, “Medical students are taught that Pasteur solved the ‘problem’ of rabies in the last century – thanks to experiments on dogs. They – and the public – are not told that neither he nor his successors have ever been able to identify the virus which is supposed to cause rabies….”

Hans Ruesch’s book was first published in 1978; in other words, more than four decades after the invention of the electron microscope; this, in turn, means that there had been more than ample time for scientists to have identified the virus alleged to cause rabies. The fact that it had remained unidentified in the late 1970s demonstrates that there can be no original ‘proof’ that rabies is caused by a ‘virus’; the idea that it can be transmitted to humans through the bite of an allegedly ‘infected’ dog is similarly unproven.

In the conclusion to her essay, Dr Morden provides a summary of the mistaken ideas about the existence of an ‘infectious disease’ called rabies, “Is rabies then a disease? Have we isolated a virus or germ? Is the Pasteurtreatment specific? Is rabies, in short, fact or fancy? I believe it is fancy, for I have handled so-called rabid animals and humans without benefit of Pasteur treatment and in no case has there been a death or any other symptoms of rabies. I submit that rabies is non-existent and that the Pasteur treatment for rabies is worse than the disease, if it were a disease, which it is not.”

The claim that human rabies is a disease of the central nervous system and involves inflammation of the brain, otherwise known as encephalitis, provides an indication of some of the possible  causal agents for these symptoms; for example, the discussion about the 1918 Flu referred to cases of ‘post-vaccinal encephalitis’. Some of the possible ‘side effects’ of the rabies vaccine include pain, dizziness and nausea; more serious effects include breathing difficulties and swelling of the throat, both of which are regarded as medical emergencies and demonstrate the dangers of the
vaccine.

Although contributory factors, vaccines are not the only sources of neurotoxins to which people and animals can be exposed. However, the control of rabies is said to require animal vaccinations, mainly for dogs; in many countries these vaccines are mandatory.

Despite the belief that they are ‘lower beings’ than humans, animals also experience vaccine ‘side effects’; they can suffer stress, pain and discomfort from the vaccination process, as well as the more serious effects from their toxic ingredients.

The acknowledged ‘side effects’ include vomiting and fever, both of which are obvious signs of poisoning. The American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) provides information on the web page entitled Vaccination FAQ about the possible, common ‘side effects’ that can occur and states that some of the more serious reactions, “…can be life-threatening and are medical emergencies.”
The seriousness of these effects demonstrates the extent to which animals are at risk from the effects of vaccines, including the rabies vaccine.

Unfortunately, the OIE claims that the appropriate measure required to eradicate rabies is to, “Vaccinate at least 70% of dogs.”

Although rabies is mainly claimed to be transmitted via a dog bite, other animals are also implicated as vectors that are able to transmit the ‘virus’ alleged to cause rabies; these animals include  rats, raccoons and cats. The idea that rabies can be eradicated by only vaccinating dogs is, therefore, yet another anomaly that remains unexplained.

Despite the complete lack of evidence that it is a genuine disease, rabies continues to be considered as an important zoonosis that requires many animals, especially pets, to be subjected to vaccines; this is highly lucrative for the pharmaceutical industry but extremely detrimental to the health of both humans and animals.”

 

Rabies, John E. Greenlee, MD, University of Utah Health:

https://www.msdmanuals.com/en-au/home/brain,-spinal-cord,-and-nerve-disorders/brain-infections/rabies

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11 minutes ago, zarkov said:

You can get Dave and Dawn’s book here. It’s a MUST HAVE that will explain away almost every single lie the evils have brainwashed us into believing for the last several centuries.

 

"Dawn Lester and David Parker have backgrounds in the fields of Accountancy and Electrical Engineering, respectively" 🤣🤣

 

Yeah okay, after you get bitten by a rabid wild dog in some rural village in India, just remember, rabies is not a virus, because Dawn and Dave said so. Don't get treatment, you will be fine 😂

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I like that they use the pcr to identify it, good old reliable pcr tests!

Not just isolated to covid eh!

LOL

 

 

"In animals, rabies is diagnosed using the direct fluorescent antibody (DFA) test, which looks for the presence of rabies virus antigens in brain tissue. In humans, several tests are required." https://www.cdc.gov/rabies/diagnosis/index.html

 

Not just PCR.

 

rabies-diagnosis-5aec97c6c5542e0036b8c22

https://www.verywellhealth.com/how-rabies-is-diagnosed-4164513

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"In animals, rabies is diagnosed using the direct fluorescent antibody (DFA) test, which looks for the presence of rabies virus antigens in brain tissue. In humans, several tests are required." https://www.cdc.gov/rabies/diagnosis/index.html

 

Not just PCR.

 

rabies-diagnosis-5aec97c6c5542e0036b8c22

https://www.verywellhealth.com/how-rabies-is-diagnosed-4164513

 

As for other causes?

Not looked for, so never found.

 

 

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