scowie Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 (edited) On 4/22/2022 at 11:41 PM, Firebird said: People are imperfect and incompetency happens in every job. IMO you dismiss the simplest and most plausible explanation (a virus spread by people in small rooms through the usual means), which is observed a lot these past 2 years, and instead you go with a wild and outlandish belief that instead it must be the 5G towers, which happen to correlate with Wuhan. It's like saying the SARS outbreak was related to the Gibraltar referendum.......... You've got your "simplest and most plausible" and "wild and outlandish" the wrong way around. The suggestion that people in a small room spread disease is actually not plausible at all as it defies all rigorous scientific experimentation that has been carried out historically. Research shows that coughs and sneezes do NOT spread diseases whatsoever! On the other hand research DOES show that millimetre microwave radiation kills red blood cells and curtails oxygen usage in living organisms, and is hence a likely cause of the "happy hypoxia" which led to many being killed with ventilators (the worst possible treatment due to oxygen being particularly toxic to the victims). There is no experimental evidence showing that a virus is able to cause that (or any other disease for that matter!). On 4/23/2022 at 2:57 AM, BornFreeNowAgain said: I have posted my experience earlier in this thread but will do so again. I experienced an 'illness' at the turn of the year, cold chills, hot sweats, no taste or smell, severe body aches and the worst a recurrence of sciatic pain that would not allow me to sit, lie down or stand without pain killers for 3 or 4 full days. I too had not experienced anything like this, but at the same time I had no runny nose, no cough, none of the symptoms you usually associate with a flu or cold. I was also quite confused by the 'illness' because it was not something I had experienced before and posted over on the Crowhouse community. In the end I came to the conclusion that I had more than likely experienced effects of 5G poisoning as a number of other people had also been 'ill' even though the turn of the year is Summer here in Australia and some research had suggested that 5G had been turned on in some areas nearby. I was certainly having a huge inflammatory response to something. So just because you had gotten 'sick' and it was unusual does not 'prove' that it is COVID or a 'virus', it could likely be many other things that we do not fully understand. The bigger question for you though is why would you 'hang around' a thread and be so active if you don't agree with most of the information being presented here? It would be akin to hating Manchester United and buying a season ticket. You could argue that Manchester United are shit and you would enjoy watching them lose, but why would you waste your valuable time watching them when you could watch a team you actually enjoy? I don't really understand why you would be so 'active' here if you believe it to be real. More likely to be pesticide poisoning, I'd say, from vehicle exhausts where the fuel had been tainted with the stuff. I had a similar thing (cold chills, hot sweats, no taste or smell). 5G kills red blood cells, thereby inducing hypoxia, hence the victim ends up gasping for breath from the slightest exertion. Both can cause hypoxia too but by different mechanisms (see my previous post). On 4/23/2022 at 11:41 AM, Firebird said: Except viruses can be observed. Also, all people observing and studying them are just stupid? Viruses can not be observed, actually. Exosomes can be observed. The word virus means poison, and so is only appropriate for something that has been proven to cause disease. This is not the case with any so-called virus. Many virologists have certainly fooled themselves into thinking they have proven that though, because all virus samples contain toxins, due to toxins being integral to virus cultivation (or rather exosome production), so will be able to cause cytopathic effects, but not the specific disease they are claimed to cause. On 4/23/2022 at 12:15 PM, Firebird said: Except saying there is no coronavirus is like saying there was never a war in Iraq. It's on THAT level of ''not buying the narrative''. It's good to question and keep an open mind, but as the saying goes ''not so open that your brains fall out'' Actually, it's more like saying there was never a chemical attack in Syria, which was actually the case — mainstream media showed footage of a simulated chemical attack filmed in Turkey and implied that it was footage of a real attack in Syria (whistle-blowing reporters confirmed this). On 4/24/2022 at 8:42 PM, sock muppet said: Indeed, and i have come to an understanding about these so called viruses that they are in fact crystalline in nature, so the saying goes that all viruses are RNA based, which means in scientific terms they are considered dead/not living as only DNA is considered life, so how do these things replicate so they cause illness and disease and are transmissible Now it seems to me that these crystals did not magically appear, no that would be nonscientific, but they are there so it means that under the right conditions these things grew by themselves, and this has been proven to be the case if you attended secondary school long enough to sit through the science class before bunking off like i did, but i do remember the experiment, so i am satisfied with my hypothesis, now if you imagine a crystalline type thing growing in your cells, then i should imagine before long you are going to feel a bit sick and then die, but before you do then i can imagine these things being coughed out over everyone else because we are nice like that sometimes and make them sick too. So to my mind we have a growth path and a self replicating hypothesis that invades every other cell that can be seeded in this way and promote replication, illness, disease and just before you snuff it you sneeze on someone else loaded with this stuff from your chest and complete the cycle of transmission and die or not. The supposed tobacco mosaic virus was crystalline in nature, but that's not the case for most of the things that are labelled virus. They are generally exosomes, which are messages that cells send to each other, especially when under toxic stress. They are a symptom of disease, not its cause. And they don't replicate by themselves (or force cells to replicate them against their will!). Cells willfully send these messages for their own (and the organism's) benefit, i.e. to warn of a toxic threat or request help (perhaps from bacteria which may be able to consume the toxins). No alleged virus has been isolated and shown to be a cause of disease. 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