Covid is Real - I had it!

[scowie]

On 4/22/2022 at 11:41 PM, Firebird said:

 

People are imperfect and incompetency happens in every job.

IMO you dismiss the simplest and most plausible explanation (a virus spread by people in small rooms through the usual means), which is observed a lot these past 2 years, and instead you go with a wild and outlandish belief that instead it must be the 5G towers, which happen to correlate with Wuhan. It's like saying the SARS outbreak was related to the Gibraltar referendum..........

You've got your "simplest and most plausible" and "wild and outlandish" the wrong way around.
The suggestion that people in a small room spread disease is actually not plausible at all as it defies all rigorous scientific experimentation that has been carried out historically.  Research shows that coughs and sneezes do NOT spread diseases whatsoever!

 

On the other hand research DOES show that millimetre microwave radiation kills red blood cells and curtails oxygen usage in living organisms, and is hence a likely cause of the "happy hypoxia" which led to many being killed with ventilators (the worst possible treatment due to oxygen being particularly toxic to the victims).  There is no experimental evidence showing that a virus is able to cause that (or any other disease for that matter!).

 

On 4/23/2022 at 2:57 AM, BornFreeNowAgain said:

I have posted my experience earlier in this thread but will do so again. I experienced an 'illness' at the turn of the year, cold chills, hot sweats, no taste or smell, severe body aches and the worst a recurrence of sciatic pain that would not allow me to sit, lie down or stand without pain killers for 3 or 4 full days. I too had not experienced anything like this, but at the same time I had no runny nose, no cough, none of the symptoms you usually associate with a flu or cold. I was also quite confused by the 'illness' because it was not something I had experienced before and posted over on the Crowhouse community. In the end I came to the conclusion that I had more than likely experienced effects of 5G poisoning as a number of other people had also been 'ill' even though the turn of the year is Summer here in Australia and some research had suggested that 5G had been turned on in some areas nearby. I was certainly having a huge inflammatory response to something. 

 

So just because you had gotten 'sick' and it was unusual does not 'prove' that it is COVID or a 'virus', it could likely be many other things that we do not fully understand. The bigger question for you though is why would you 'hang around' a thread and be so active if you don't agree with most of the information being presented here? It would be akin to hating Manchester United and buying a season ticket. You could argue that Manchester United are shit and you would enjoy watching them lose, but why would you waste your valuable time watching them when you could watch a team you actually enjoy? I don't really understand why you would be so 'active' here if you believe it to be real. 

More likely to be pesticide poisoning, I'd say, from vehicle exhausts where the fuel had been tainted with the stuff.  I had a similar thing (cold chills, hot sweats, no taste or smell).  5G kills red blood cells, thereby inducing hypoxia, hence the victim ends up gasping for breath from the slightest exertion.  Both can cause hypoxia too but by different mechanisms (see my previous post).

 

On 4/23/2022 at 11:41 AM, Firebird said:

 

Except viruses can be observed.

Also, all people observing and studying them are just stupid?

Viruses can not be observed, actually.  Exosomes can be observed.  The word virus means poison, and so is only appropriate for something that has been proven to cause disease.  This is not the case with any so-called virus.  Many virologists have certainly fooled themselves into thinking they have proven that though, because all virus samples contain toxins, due to toxins being integral to virus cultivation (or rather exosome production), so will be able to cause cytopathic effects, but not the specific disease they are claimed to cause.

 

On 4/23/2022 at 12:15 PM, Firebird said:

 

Except saying there is no coronavirus is like saying there was never a war in Iraq. It's on THAT level of ''not buying the narrative''. It's good to question and keep an open mind, but as the saying goes ''not so open that your brains fall out''

 

Actually, it's more like saying there was never a chemical attack in Syria, which was actually the case — mainstream media showed footage of a simulated chemical attack filmed in Turkey and implied that it was footage of a real attack in Syria (whistle-blowing reporters confirmed this).

 

On 4/24/2022 at 8:42 PM, sock muppet said:

 

Indeed, and i have come to an understanding about these so called viruses that they are in fact crystalline in nature, so the saying goes that all viruses are RNA based, which means in scientific terms they are considered dead/not living as only DNA is considered life, so how do these things replicate so they cause illness and disease and are transmissible

 

Now it seems to me that these crystals did not magically appear, no that would be nonscientific, but they are there so it means that under the right conditions these things grew by themselves, and this has been proven to be the case if you attended secondary school long enough to sit through the science class before bunking off like i did, but i do remember the experiment, so i am satisfied with my hypothesis, now if you imagine a crystalline type thing growing in your cells, then i should imagine before long you are going to feel a bit sick and then die, but before you do then i can imagine these things being coughed out over everyone else because we are nice like that sometimes and make them sick too.

So to my mind we have a growth path and a self replicating hypothesis that invades every other cell that can be seeded in this way and promote replication, illness, disease and just before you snuff it you sneeze on someone else loaded with this stuff from your chest and complete the cycle of transmission and die or not.

The supposed tobacco mosaic virus was crystalline in nature, but that's not the case for most of the things that are labelled virus.  They are generally exosomes, which are messages that cells send to each other, especially when under toxic stress.  They are a symptom of disease, not its cause.  And they don't replicate by themselves (or force cells to replicate them against their will!).  Cells willfully send these messages for their own (and the organism's) benefit, i.e. to warn of a toxic threat or request help (perhaps from bacteria which may be able to consume the toxins).

 

No alleged virus has been isolated and shown to be a cause of disease.

Edited April 29, 2022 by scowie

[Firebird]

5 hours ago, scowie said:

Mythology i'm afraid.  This has been tested rigorously in the past.  No disease symptoms have ever been shown to be transmissible person-to-person under controlled conditions (here's one example).  The idea that people catch diseases off each other is the world's most prevalent (and most dangerous) superstition.

 

It's ironic that you talk about mythology and superstition, whilst you adhere to a false belief.

I've noticed it all my life by the way. If you're around a person with a respiratory sickness, and you spend too much time with them, you get it too.

[Firebird]

5 hours ago, scowie said:

Some people get attacked with the 5G weaponry and think they have covid; others just get a false positive test and think they have covid.  Overweight people are more prone to being attacked by the 5G weaponry, as are ethnic minorities.  That is because these are the people that the deep state most like to murder.  It isn't a virus that is being selective. 

 

What about horses and dogs? They don't seem to get sick from this virus. Perhaps they are conspiring against us! Dogs have been pissing against trees and lampposts all this time. I bet it must be some secretive psychic stuff in the piss and that is activating the 5G towers, which then make us believe that they are causing the damage, and then you read the news and they distract you on purpose and tell you that dogs and horses are nice!

During the 2003 SARS outbreak, there was a referendum in Gibraltar. It must be related!!! They were unhappy with the referendum result, so they said ''Yeah lets release SARS, so people are distracted and don't look at Gibraltar!''

 

Edited April 29, 2022 by Firebird

[Firebird]

5 hours ago, scowie said:

The cause isn't damaged by "virus denial".  It is damaged by virus superstition.  Sorry dude, but the virus deniers are on the side of truth.  All diseases are caused by toxins.  Viruses are a myth.

 

The natural spike protein does not cause damage.  It is a part of normal human physiology.

 

I find it fascinating that every actual expert studying the topic is automatically wrong and part of the conspiracy, whilst strange fringe beliefs must be right!

 

 

 

[whatthefoxhat]

Nice to see you have found your own niche and are curating your own little echo chamber Fireturd...It's actually turning into the best comedic thread on here

 

Keep going ...i need the laughs

[Firebird]

3 hours ago, scowie said:

You've got your "simplest and most plausible" and "wild and outlandish" the wrong way around.
The suggestion that people in a small room spread disease is actually not plausible at all as it defies all rigorous scientific experimentation that has been carried out historically.  Research shows that coughs and sneezes do NOT spread diseases whatsoever!

 

 

 

That's your ''research''? Some stuff from a Moscow site? Okay....

[Deano7879]

On 4/22/2022 at 8:23 PM, jedidiah said:

 

Its not the being sick bit, it’s the banging on about the rona being real!

 

This person can go and do some research instead of going on and on about that and trying to convince us.

 

I had the hell of a flu lately but there’s no way I’d say it was rona.

 

And now frankly I don’t give a damn about this whining individual; I’m done with it.

I've had the flu before and this virus was different.  It's not just flu renamed. Sorry to burst your bubble 

 

That being said. It's all still one big con 

[sock muppet]

6 hours ago, Firebird said:

 

What about horses and dogs? They don't seem to get sick from this virus. Perhaps they are conspiring against us! Dogs have been pissing against trees and lampposts all this time. I bet it must be some secretive psychic stuff in the piss and that is activating the 5G towers, which then make us believe that they are causing the damage, and then you read the news and they distract you on purpose and tell you that dogs and horses are nice!

During the 2003 SARS outbreak, there was a referendum in Gibraltar. It must be related!!! They were unhappy with the referendum result, so they said ''Yeah lets release SARS, so people are distracted and don't look at Gibraltar!''

 

 

I know the perspective from where you are approaching this from, but we do have an elephant in the room that has not quite been established yet and that is terminology, we could all be talking about the same thing but talking in a way that is termed differently, it this fact that i would like to establish first, from my own experience i can say that infectious illness do indeed exist, and i would like to help you establish just how these things are transmissible and how these things replicate, it's not enough for just one molecule to go from host to host and create the same effects, there must be a mechanism that allows for replication and this has not been established, and as others have pointed out before that the term virus is also synonymous with poison, do you see the conflict that arises?

[jedidiah]

9 hours ago, Deano7879 said:

I've had the flu before and this virus was different.  It's not just flu renamed. Sorry to burst your bubble 

 

That being said. It's all still one big con 

 

You didn’t burst my bubble at all; what makes you think I’d care enough about your opinion to let it do that?

 

You have your opinion, I have mine.

[sock muppet]

14 hours ago, Firebird said:

During the 2003 SARS outbreak, there was a referendum in Gibraltar. It must be related!!! They were unhappy with the referendum result, so they said ''Yeah lets release SARS, so people are distracted and don't look at Gibraltar!''

 

Following on from your assertion that Democracy is NOT polluted or guided in some way by the MSM, you do know that the Lisbon treaty that was ratified by the Irish vote was made annulled/void because they voted the WRONG way, can you explain this please because it is essential to the discussion about the interference by external entities that intervenes when trying to make the right choices in life!

[Firebird]

On 4/29/2022 at 12:34 PM, Deano7879 said:

I've had the flu before and this virus was different.  It's not just flu renamed. Sorry to burst your bubble 

 

That being said. It's all still one big con 

 

Yes, also been my experience. And yes, there's a lot going on.. the virus panic is used to push other things through. ''Now we have the opportunity...'' ''build back better'' etc.

Edited April 30, 2022 by Firebird

[Deano7879]

17 hours ago, jedidiah said:

 

You didn’t burst my bubble at all; what makes you think I’d care enough about your opinion to let it do that?

 

You have your opinion, I have mine.

You are claiming it doesn't exist. you are wrong

 

I can differentiate between the flu and what me and my partner had. Never has the flu caused so many people to lose taste and smell. 

[TheConsultant]

14 minutes ago, Deano7879 said:

You are claiming it doesn't exist. you are wrong

 

I can differentiate between the flu and what me and my partner had. Never has the flu caused so many people to lose taste and smell. 

Do/did you both wear masks? 

[novymir]

On 4/29/2022 at 4:05 AM, Firebird said:

 

I find it fascinating that every actual expert studying the topic is automatically wrong and part of the conspiracy, whilst strange fringe beliefs must be right!

 

 

 

Hahahahaha!!!!!

 

Why are you here?  This is davidicke.com, are you lost?

 

What a joke you are...deferring to  so-called "actual experts" and complaining about "strange fringe beliefs..."  on this forum.

Is your other name "GeoffB"?

https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/search/&q=geoffb&quick=1

 

 

 

 

 

 

[sock muppet]

58 minutes ago, Deano7879 said:

I can differentiate between the flu and what me and my partner had. Never has the flu caused so many people to lose taste and smell.

 

The virus, do you have any evidence that it is a virus, do you have anything more than the symptoms to describe it with, can you say for certain where it was contracted, because it would be of great value for the rest of us that want to help and narrow down just what is at play here?

[novymir]

9 minutes ago, sock muppet said:

 

The virus, do you have any evidence that it is a virus, do you have anything more than the symptoms to describe it with, can you say for certain where it was contracted, because it would be of great value for the rest of us that want to help and narrow down just what is at play here?

 

[sock muppet]

On 4/23/2022 at 5:42 PM, Firebird said:

Just listening to an interview with Robert Malone. Flat out says that he had contact with the companies that have isolated the virus and working with it.

Then many people of course having experienced the disease, and can tell you that it isn't ''just a cold''.

 

Go watch stuff from Alex Jones and his experience with it, or Joe Rogan, or listen to Malone and McCullough.

 

''There is no virus'' is a silly fringe belief.

 

I did watch that video and i can say that the scenery was on an epic scale with Dr Malone in some very nice clothing and hat, but the wife, oh my, i thought the breakdown he had was work related, like when the evil bastards approached him and told Dr Malone of what it was to be used for, but other than this very low on anything go on.

[novymir]

Unfortunately, in BizarroWorld it is more likely that germ-theory heretics and blaphemers will end up in the padded room....

 

 

[Firebird]

2 hours ago, Deano7879 said:

You are claiming it doesn't exist. you are wrong

 

I can differentiate between the flu and what me and my partner had. Never has the flu caused so many people to lose taste and smell. 

 

Or so many people with lingering symptoms. When people recover from the flu, most of them feel like before sickness. Covid recovery takes longer for many, because it is new and the body had to work harder. I've heard from people that got a second infection and they already have it easier.

 

1 hour ago, novymir said:

Hahahahaha!!!!!

 

Why are you here?  This is davidicke.com, are you lost?

 

What a joke you are...deferring to  so-called "actual experts" and complaining about "strange fringe beliefs..."  on this forum.

Is your other name "GeoffB"?

https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/search/&q=geoffb&quick=1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nothing convincing there. I stopped halfway... TL;DR.

 

Edited April 30, 2022 by Firebird

[sock muppet]

21 minutes ago, novymir said:

 

 

Absolutely, psychological effects can not be dismissed either, and has played the greater role in this narrative of convid.

@Firebird what is your opinion of the message that this whole episode was more psychological affecting the biological, are you prepared to say that this was a major contributing factor that became the disease and even death, are you also prepared to say that those that suffer lasting effects are also caused by this?

[novymir]

4 minutes ago, Firebird said:

 

Or so many people with lingering symptoms. When people recover from the flu, most of them feel like before sickness. Covid recovery takes longer for many, because it is new and the body had to work harder. I've heard from people that got a second infection and they already have it easier.

 

 

Nothing convincing there. I stopped halfway... TL;DR.

Yes, and you're still full of sh-t. A gatekeeper. Your master does not like it when others start to question it's prescribed paradigm, which they do when they browse this site(it can sense it). You are an attempt to reinforce the fear their ego suggests to them concerning "fringe ideas" and fears of being seen as a nut, and stigmatized by the consensus-followers(society)... when in truth, it's the belief in a bogey-man external physical virus that is delusional, both from a Higher point of view, and even at this level, it's a fraud.

My posts won't be for your benefit, you've already had your mind closed and locked up. You can continue your love affair with "the virus", no one can take that away from you. But, reinforcing the idea, and spreading it, that is the actual modus-operandi of what fit's the description of "virus" as you (think) you "know" it.

 

[Firebird]

1 hour ago, novymir said:

Yes, and you're still full of sh-t. A gatekeeper. Your master does not like it when others start to question it's prescribed paradigm, which they do when they browse this site(it can sense it). You are an attempt to reinforce the fear their ego suggests to them concerning "fringe ideas" and fears of being seen as a nut, and stigmatized by the consensus-followers(society)... when in truth, it's the belief in a bogey-man external physical virus that is delusional, both from a Higher point of view, and even at this level, it's a fraud.

My posts won't be for your benefit, you've already had your mind closed and locked up. You can continue your love affair with "the virus", no one can take that away from you. But, reinforcing the idea, and spreading it, that is the actual modus-operandi of what fit's the description of "virus" as you (think) you "know" it.

 

 

Your beliefs are fringe, even among the alternative media. Even well cited people like Malone, McCullough, Alex Jones, and Joe Rogan know the virus is real.

Your part of a minority and it shrinks with each passing day.

 

Closed minds? Yes, you can't consider that the virus exists. Others like me simply know it, through experience. That's not a ''love affair'', lol.

It's real, get over it. You talk about gatekeepers and closed minds but that's you describing yourself.

[sock muppet]

4 minutes ago, Firebird said:

Closed minds? Yes, you can't consider that the virus exists. Others like me simply know it, through experience.

 

But what was the experience, can you give more detail to go on, for example, where were you at the time you felt unwell, were you in a crowded situation, what are the symptoms you had...etc?

[oddsnsods]

3 hours ago, novymir said:

Unfortunately, in BizarroWorld it is more likely that germ-theory heretics and blaphemers will end up in the padded room....

 

 

 

 I have been living in bizarro world since 1999. Covid1984 is nothing new.

 

 

[novymir]

3 hours ago, Firebird said:

 

Your beliefs are fringe, even among the alternative media. Even well cited people like Malone, McCullough, Alex Jones, and Joe Rogan know the virus is real.

Your part of a minority and it shrinks with each passing day.

 

Closed minds? Yes, you can't consider that the virus exists. Others like me simply know it, through experience. That's not a ''love affair'', lol.

It's real, get over it. You talk about gatekeepers and closed minds but that's you describing yourself.

Still then,,,,why are >you< here ?!?!? At davidicke.com ?

 

 

ps; I guess you don't know why He said; "...“Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. But small is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life, and only a few find it.".

 

There's your "consensus", your "majority", your "well cited" people(Pharisaic "authorities"), all them are still clinging to illusions, and it's a dead-end.

 

ps;ps; you're a bonehead...I used to believe in the lie. I'm BEYOND it now.

 

 

 

 

Edited April 30, 2022 by novymir