Covid is Real - I had it!

[sock muppet]

Try looking at this, pay attention to Dr Sucharit Bhakdi! @Firebird

 

Edited April 24, 2022 by sock muppet
forgot the poster i'm challenging and government msm

[sock muppet]

@Firebird and any other fukwits that got taken in, know this:

your future dream

is

a slave machine

[skitzorat]

14 hours ago, Skotfreezy said:

dude ive never joined a forume in my life either lol until now.

Welcome mate.

 

Don't mind the shitzzle and online politick *bitchin'* around here sometimes - it ebbs and flows, like any communication portal open to the world. But I'd imagine other forums are way worse and/or closed minded and/or censored - if you can't handle the internet, get off it.

And if you can't respect people having/sharing some kooky ideas, get off the *conspiracy* forum IMO.

 

Kudos to the mods though! *hat tip*

 

After 16 months I can honestly say that by in large, OVERWHELMINGLY, the vast, vast majority of regular contributors are well reasoned, very informed, smart and approachable. Some are more sassy than others

 

Take that as you will. And welcome again.

Enjoy, there's a fvck ton of really interesting stuff here.

 

[Mikhail Liebestein]

On 4/21/2022 at 4:34 PM, Sarmac said:

Why are you getting flu every year? I las had flu 15 yrs ago when I was stupid enough to get my only flu jab.

 

you need to eat more healthy I’d say.

 

I've not had anything  that could be termed flu since 1978, when I was 5. My parents weren't that affluent and we  ate too many carbs rather than fresh fruit and veg back then.

 

I now only buy healthy food, mainly organic.

That said, it isn't cheap.

[Firebird]

This is a joke.

 

I did not create this thread. I was being told I was ''being disruptive'' in the Coronavirus-Mega Thread. Why? I was on-topic and discussed corona, said that I believe it exists and that I went through the experience. I suppose that's being ''disruptive'' to the dominant narrative here. From the perspective of NoVirus-believers, I am of course a ''troll''. Looking at it rationally and neutrally, that judgement makes no sense regardless of where we sit on corona. I was on-topic.

 

As I mentioned, people want evidence which I cannot provide. My experience, that of others, and what scientists say will be dismissed. What people here want is lab samples that prove that it is covid19 and prove it is different from hundreds of other viruses (where to stop?). This means these guys need to go to a lab, that's the only solution.

 

Big capital letters and saying ''YOUR FUTURE IS A SLAVE MACHINE'' and repeatable ''fuck off'' is not well behaved for a conversation. People here need to look in the mirror. If they want to have a discussion it starts with proper behaviour.

 

 

 

[sock muppet]

6 hours ago, Firebird said:

This is a joke.

 

I did not create this thread. I was being told I was ''being disruptive'' in the Coronavirus-Mega Thread. Why? I was on-topic and discussed corona, said that I believe it exists and that I went through the experience. I suppose that's being ''disruptive'' to the dominant narrative here. From the perspective of NoVirus-believers, I am of course a ''troll''. Looking at it rationally and neutrally, that judgement makes no sense regardless of where we sit on corona. I was on-topic.

 

As I mentioned, people want evidence which I cannot provide. My experience, that of others, and what scientists say will be dismissed. What people here want is lab samples that prove that it is covid19 and prove it is different from hundreds of other viruses (where to stop?). This means these guys need to go to a lab, that's the only solution.

 

Big capital letters and saying ''YOUR FUTURE IS A SLAVE MACHINE'' and repeatable ''fuck off'' is not well behaved for a conversation. People here need to look in the mirror. If they want to have a discussion it starts with proper behaviour.

 

 

 

 

Sorry old chum, bit of a bad hair two and a half years day, gets you kind of twitchy every now and then, so how can i help with your quest to tell the world the truth that the virus angle is real?

[k_j_evans]

On 4/22/2022 at 11:31 PM, Firebird said:

 

Why is it so controversial to you that viruses spread from one person to the next, with sneezing, coughing and shouting? Even more so in small rooms. Many people caught it after a visit to a restaurant, pub or direct contact in general with someone infected. It is the simplest explanation and you consider it the least likely. It all points to the same direction, a virus spread through the usual ways. Occam's razor anyone.

 

 

 

But does it? And how do you tell where you "caught it"? You just assume that it must have been in some place full of strangers as that's what we are taught happens. But last week a mate who was staying with me - and works from home - got a bad cold, used up all my lemons and andrographis (and my cough mixture stock pile). Stayed all week as not well enough to travel. Why didn't I get it? Where did my mate get it - working in the house, didn't go shopping, no pubs, no cafes ...?

[RobinJ]

18 hours ago, sock muppet said:

 

Again WHO are these people that can OBSERVE these things, as they are so small you need an electron microscope to SEE something that they SAY is the VIRUS, don't know about you but i just have never bumped into people OBSERVING VIRUSES in nature this way as you do, no? @Firebird

Indeed, an attached label does not make it a fact. People are so scared of letting go of their programmed ideas they reuse to even consider other possibilities. Blinkered.

[sock muppet]

1 minute ago, RobinJ said:

Indeed, an attached label does not make it a fact. People are so scared of letting go of their programmed ideas they reuse to even consider other possibilities. Blinkered.

 

Indeed, and i have come to an understanding about these so called viruses that they are in fact crystalline in nature, so the saying goes that all viruses are RNA based, which means in scientific terms they are considered dead/not living as only DNA is considered life, so how do these things replicate so they cause illness and disease and are transmissible, well here is a picture to try to explain this in my mind:

 

 

Now it seems to me that these crystals did not magically appear, no that would be nonscientific, but they are there so it means that under the right conditions these things grew by themselves, and this has been proven to be the case if you attended secondary school long enough to sit through the science class before bunking off like i did, but i do remember the experiment, so i am satisfied with my hypothesis, now if you imagine a crystalline type thing growing in your cells, then i should imagine before long you are going to feel a bit sick and then die, but before you do then i can imagine these things being coughed out over everyone else because we are nice like that sometimes and make them sick too.

So to my mind we have a growth path and a self replicating hypothesis that invades every other cell that can be seeded in this way and promote replication, illness, disease and just before you snuff it you sneeze on someone else loaded with this stuff from your chest and complete the cycle of transmission and die or not.

[RobinJ]

7 minutes ago, sock muppet said:

 

Indeed, and i have come to an understanding about these so called viruses that they are in fact crystalline in nature, so the saying goes that all viruses are RNA based, which means in scientific terms they are considered dead/not living as only DNA is considered life, so how do these things replicate so they cause illness and disease and are transmissible, well here is a picture to try to explain this in my mind:

 

 

Now it seems to me that these crystals did not magically appear, no that would be nonscientific, but they are there so it means that under the right conditions these things grew by themselves, and this has been proven to be the case if you attended secondary school long enough to sit through the science class before bunking off like i did, but i do remember the experiment, so i am satisfied with my hypothesis, now if you imagine a crystalline type thing growing in your cells, then i should imagine before long you are going to feel a bit sick and then die, but before you do then i can imagine these things being coughed out over everyone else because we are nice like that sometimes and make them sick too.

So to my mind we have a growth path and a self replicating hypothesis that invades every other cell that can be seeded in this way and promote replication, illness, disease and just before you snuff it you sneeze on someone else loaded with this stuff from your chest and complete the cycle of transmission and die or not.

No I dont think so. thats just regular mainstream science you are describing. No virus can leave the human body, its simply the way the body reacts to distress and trauma. It sends special liquids to various cells to break down the 'invading toxin.' You cant catch it. A cold or flu symptom is your body in process of ridding that toxin. Now if it was an injected toxin, for example, thats not a virus either but the body would treat it the same.

[sock muppet]

1 minute ago, RobinJ said:

No I dont think so. thats just regular mainstream science you are describing. No virus can leave the human body, its simply the way the body reacts to distress and trauma. It sends special liquids to various cells to break down the 'invading toxin.' You cant catch it. A cold or flu symptom is your body in process of ridding that toxin. Now if it was an injected toxin, for example, thats not a virus either but the body would treat it the same.

 

But would you not class crystals as toxins/toxic, and also a way that the body purges it's self by trying to dissolve the little baskits, i could imagine this to be the case as i would imagine that not all crystals are good for you when ingested somehow, the movie Andromeda strain comes to mind and the crux of the story was that the wino and the baby survived because the Ph of the blood dissolved the toxin, can't remember if it was acidic or alkaline.

[Morpheus]

I just wanted to say, I love the title of the thread. 

[sock muppet]

2 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

I just wanted to say, I love the title of the thread. 

 

And your input noted as EPIC

[Bombadil]

can i please remind people to respect the forum guidelines.

I am fully aware how heated the CV linked threads can get.

Just cut out the personal insults. it gets no one anywhere. Just becomes a shit fight

 

 

Edited April 24, 2022 by Bombadil
added more appropriate info

[RobinJ]

1 hour ago, sock muppet said:

 

But would you not class crystals as toxins/toxic, and also a way that the body purges it's self by trying to dissolve the little baskits, i could imagine this to be the case as i would imagine that not all crystals are good for you when ingested somehow, the movie Andromeda strain comes to mind and the crux of the story was that the wino and the baby survived because the Ph of the blood dissolved the toxin, can't remember if it was acidic or alkaline.

 

It was not the crystal part so much i was commenting on, more that it can be transmitted as a 'virus.' Crystals may well be one way the body tries to discharge cell mutations etc. It may be we are describing similar things but attaching different terms or labels.

[Rayvn]

There is "something". A biological gain of function weapon was released from the wuhan lab first. Then another strain was released from the wet markets. 

Interesting fact is, the covid " virus" and vaccine side effects both mirror each other and both can kill. Though I think the vaccine lills more people. 

 

I have never had covid, double jabbed because I fell for the "keep loved ones safe" bullshit. Did a massive cleanse, detox and reset. 6 months on, I have celiac disease. Probably the better of the autoimmune diseases to catch. I consider myself lucky and consider it a lesson to be more mindful of my health. 

I never get colds and flu either ...... unless I get the flu shot which I am allergic too and never get anymore. 

 

I guess the truth will slowly be uncovered as pfizer releases documents

[Athenry04]

50 minutes ago, Rayvn said:

There is "something". A biological gain of function weapon was released from the wuhan lab first. Then another strain was released from the wet markets. 

Interesting fact is, the covid " virus" and vaccine side effects both mirror each other and both can kill. Though I think the vaccine lills more people. 

 

I have never had covid, double jabbed because I fell for the "keep loved ones safe" bullshit. Did a massive cleanse, detox and reset. 6 months on, I have celiac disease. Probably the better of the autoimmune diseases to catch. I consider myself lucky and consider it a lesson to be more mindful of my health. 

I never get colds and flu either ...... unless I get the flu shot which I am allergic too and never get anymore. 

 

I guess the truth will slowly be uncovered as pfizer releases documents

 

Which particular newspaper did you glean this cutting edge opinion from? You must be taking the piss.

[novymir]

 

"Woe to you Scribes and Pharisees, pretenders; hypocrites! who are like white-washed tombs, which from the outside appear clean and beautiful, but from within are full of the bones of the dead and all corruption!"
 

Edited April 25, 2022 by novymir

[Rayvn]

1 hour ago, Athenry04 said:

 

Which particular newspaper did you glean this cutting edge opinion from? You must be taking the piss.

From many sources.   How about you get back in your box and let other people air their oppinions. There is enough bullshit censorship in the world without people like you belittleing and bullying people for having an alternative oppinion. 

Last I checked, this forum was about discussion, free speech and respect. 

You don't agree, move on. 

At the end of the day, no one here knows the absolute truth. So until then, be more open minded and less judgemental. 

[sock muppet]

16 hours ago, RobinJ said:

It may be we are describing similar things but attaching different terms or labels

 

That seems to be the case, i am going to take the crystal thing a little further by trying to find as much info on their growth whether it be an acid environment or alkaline, i am going down this road having been spurred on by the movie Andromeda Strain all those years ago, i feel there might be something in this, and as others have pointed out before, that the word Virus is synonymous with poison, and the page i linked to expresses the dilemma of which terminology to use, what's bugging me the most is the replication effect, if it's not living then how.

[Rayvn]

Took me awhile to find this in my files. But explains better than I can the bio weapon they call a " virus" . 

 

https://www.bitchute.com/video/vTFMMasGQPyb/

[DaleP]

On 4/24/2022 at 11:34 AM, Firebird said:

I did not create this thread

But you can talk all you like in your thread. I think the thread title suits you.

 

Edited April 26, 2022 by DaleP

[whatthefoxhat]

On 4/21/2022 at 4:15 PM, zArk said:

rabies is a funny one aint it, although it was renamed tetanus (which in itself is another nonsense without any proof or conclusive test)

 

wheres the isolated rabies virus evidence? there is none, ever.

 

from the bite day the 'disease' can take one day to a month to a year to show itself.... and theres no test to show the presence of 'rabies'.

 

but if the bite gets into the blood, there will be problems no doubt as any foreign substance in the blood is a chemical stressor.

 

viruses do not exist, RNA is a myth, transciptase is supposition, pathogens do not exist in nature

 

Bit late to the party on this one but i digress..I had the 'Rabies vaccination' many years ago due to having to go and work in some of the worlds spectacular shitholes along with a whole host of other 'vaccinations'

 

I felt like death for a couple of days after dose 2 ,wasn't too bad after dose 3 and could lick my own arsehole and scratch my ears with my foot before i got dose 4

[DarianF]

On 4/24/2022 at 8:34 PM, Firebird said:

As I mentioned, people want evidence which I cannot provide.

 

[scowie]

On 4/21/2022 at 5:16 PM, Firebird said:

 

Flu is spreading around just fine. As does coronavirus. Without lockdowns people get in contact with more people so many people out there getting sick. Every week I hear from people getting sick, also many unvaxxed. And if you've experienced both you may notice the differences in symptoms (also similarities but the two diseases are not the same thing from my experience).

Mythology i'm afraid.  This has been tested rigorously in the past.  No disease symptoms have ever been shown to be transmissible person-to-person under controlled conditions (here's one example).  The idea that people catch diseases off each other is the world's most prevalent (and most dangerous) superstition.

 

On 4/21/2022 at 5:49 PM, Firebird said:

 

Look around. Many people are catching viruses, that is true for both (vaxxed and unvaxxed).

That is not something you are able to observe; getting a disease (or people reporting one to you) on the other hand, is.

 

On 4/21/2022 at 6:14 PM, Firebird said:

Well, from someone with the experience I can say it's similar but not the same as the flu. With flu I always knew I'd be fit again if I would be fever-free for two days. I also never had the kind of overall muscle weakness and lethargy with the flu that I had with corona. I wish I could say it was ''just the flu'', but it wasn't. You have to experience to know the difference.

Weakness and lethargy are flu symptoms though so either you got a more severe case this time, or your previous flus were not really "the flu", as in seasonal flu, at all. Like covid, the term flu tends to be used to describe a myriad of diseases.

 

Fever does not necessarily equal flu.  Fever means you have been poisoned with something particularly toxic, likely something you have breathed in (unless you also had gastric/bowel issues).  Seasonal flu is a specific example of that, caused by inhaling black mold spores which produce mycotoxins.  25% of the population have a gene variant that means they can't efficiently remove the toxins from their systems, making them vulnerable.  That's why the disease correlates with humidity (when spores are released into the air). Viruses are mythical constructs.

 

On 4/21/2022 at 6:16 PM, Trufflepig said:

It's real I had the covid twice, I lost my taste and smell. Now where's that retarded sheep face emoji.

 

On 4/21/2022 at 9:14 PM, jedidiah said:

I had the flu a month or so ago and it was like nothing I’d had before; a real shocker.

Thought I was going to ‘ramble on’ for a while; everything that’s been mentioned here; no appetite - didn’t even want  to drink water; so achey; so tired; the loss of taste and smell; I’ve not been able to smell and taste very well before with a cold but this was something else; absolutely nada.

 

Never ever felt that bad before; and several others around me had it also (they thought it was the dreaded rona though; when I asked them, but haven’t you had the jab - or two, or three, they all looked very sheepish, but it was still the rona don’t you know ).

...I lost my sense of taste and smell for a few weeks around the beginning of autumn last year.  It started with a bit of fever and a cough too.  I didn't call it covid though.  I am pretty sure it was caused by inhaling pesticides from vehicle exhausts.  Our fuel now contains traces of pesticides courtesy of the bioethanol that is added (now sourced primarily from grain grown with the stuff).  I now suspect though, that the disease isn't an accident.  I think the deep state like to set up situations where a disease can be blamed on an accidental exposure to something when the reality is that they have gone and deliberately created disease.  In this case it would be by employing agents who drive around our streets in vehicles that have had extra pesticides deliberately added to the fuel in order to cause this anosmia that people would then blame on the mythical coronavirus.

 

Anosmia is also a symptom of the 5G millimetre microwave radiation poisoning (the cause of "happy hypoxia" that resulted in many being killed with ventilators), but in that case it is due to zinc being diverted to bone marrow for the critical job of replacing the destroyed red blood cells — this causes a zinc deficiency in organs that need zinc to function, one of which is the olfactory bulb.

 

On 4/22/2022 at 10:15 AM, Firebird said:

Most people that are against restrictions and vaccine mandates do accept that the virus exists. Alex Jones for instance does, so does Joe Rogan and many others because they have experienced it.

 

The arguments against lockdowns, curfews and vaccine mandates are damaged when people say ''there is no virus, it's really 5G or microwaves!'' People are in the right to oppose mandates and other things but it sucks that the cause is damaged because of virus denial. It's kinda like alternative therapies getting damaged reputation because of breatharians and the like entering the room, or spirituality getting damaged because of people shouting hellfire and damnation.

No one has experienced a virus.  They have experienced a disease.  Anyone who assumes their disease was caused by a virus is not being very savy.

 

I recommend checking out what Dr. Sam Bailey has to say on this.

 

The cause isn't damaged by "virus denial".  It is damaged by virus superstition.  Sorry dude, but the virus deniers are on the side of truth.  All diseases are caused by toxins.  Viruses are a myth.

 

On 4/22/2022 at 10:24 AM, Firebird said:

 

It's a no-brainer to me that people can get these reactions from the jabs. But people's health can also get messed up from viruses, and also a relatively new virus.

Both things can happen. If the spike protein from the jabs is causing all sorts of issues than it stands to reason that the natural spike protein can also cause damage. I get it that there were many issues pre-jabs when people caught the virus in 2020, and I totally get that it can also be caused by the jabs since 2021. They imitate the virus and the spike protein is causing issues. People can get damaged either way, the jab or the virus.

The natural spike protein does not cause damage.  It is a part of normal human physiology.  It can only cause a problem if a person's immune system has been tricked into attacking that protein by combining it with a toxic adjuvant, which is what a vaccine does.  Btw, the name "spike protein" is itself a piece of propaganda designed to conjure up, in the mind of the regular joe, the idea that virus particles (really exosomes) impale cells when they do no such thing — they dock with the cell, using what is effectively a docking port. Exosomes are messages that cells send to each other, especially when under toxic stress, so they are a symptom of disease, not it's cause.  This so-called spike is not pointy — it is wider at the end than it is at the point where it is attached to the exosome.  The mythical coronavirus is effectively running around holding a dagger by the wrong end and trying to stab cells with the handle!  Docking protein would be a more accurate name for it, but of course that wouldn't sound scary enough!

 

On 4/22/2022 at 10:37 AM, Firebird said:

Overweight people are on average more vulnerable but that doesn't mean every individual overweight person is going to be super sick. There are so many variables when it comes to our health and our reaction to any virus. On average certain groups are more vulnerable but it's also possible that an old and fat person gets a runny nose whilst an athlete is in bed for a week. The average situation =/= individual situation.

 

Paulo Dybala was pretty sick from it also. https://www.espn.com/soccer/juventus/story/4079369/juventus-paulo-dybala-coronavirus-left-me-struggling-for-breath

Then there have been many other players that were asymptomatic.

Some people get attacked with the 5G weaponry and think they have covid; others just get a false positive test and think they have covid.  Overweight people are more prone to being attacked by the 5G weaponry, as are ethnic minorities.  That is because these are the people that the deep state most like to murder.  It isn't a virus that is being selective.  It is the mass-murdering deep state which has the ultimate goal of reducing the world's population to 500 million (see the Georgia Guidestones).  Vaccines are one tool they intend to employ to this aim.  Currently most vaccine recipients get saline, which is done to con them into disbelieving the stories of those who were not so lucky, and to get them accustomed to taking them.  One day they won't be so lucky.  Other tools the deep state have are nuclear weapons and the manufacture of food and energy shortages (hence current world events).

Edited April 29, 2022 by scowie