Oxford Scientist Warning: Telling Aliens Where We Are Potentially Puts Earth At Risk

[Truthblast]

NASA wants to broadcast detailed new information into space, including information about the exact location of Earth, our human culture, our Mathematics and so forth

 

https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/telling-aliens-where-we-are-puts-earth-at-risk-20220418-p5ae4k.html

 

 

Improvements in digital technology mean that more information can now be emitted. The proposed message includes basic mathematical and physical concepts to establish a universal means of communication, followed by information on the biochemical composition of life on Earth.

It also includes the Solar System’s location relative to major clusters of stars, along with digitised depictions of it, Earth’s surface, and men and women. The message concludes with an invitation for intelligences to respond.

 

 

However, Anders Sandberg, a senior research fellow at Oxford’s Future of Humanity Institute, warned that sharing such information with intelligent life presents a risk that must be considered.

Sandberg said that although the chance of the message reaching an alien civilisation was low, “it has such a high impact that you actually need to take it rather seriously”.

 

 

He said that the “giggle factor” surrounding the search for extraterrestrial intelligence meant that “many people just refuse to take anything related to it seriously. Which is a shame because this is important stuff.”

Overall, said Sandberg, both the risk and the potential benefit were small. Given the difficulty of traversing vast spans of interstellar space, a message received even by a very advanced civilisation might amount to little beyond, as Sandberg put it, “a postcard saying, ‘Wish you were here’.”

 

 

A better approach than individual groups firing off ad hoc broadcasts, he said, would be humanity co-ordinating as a species. “We’re not great at co-ordinating, but I think it is a nice exercise.”

Toby Ord, Sandberg’s colleague at the FHI, made similar arguments in The Precipice, a book published in 2020 in which he analysed existential risks facing humanity.

Ord suggested it might be wise to have “public discussion” before sending messages to aliens, pointing out that “even passive SETI [listening for their messages] could hold dangers, as the message could be designed to entrap us.⁰

 

 

“These dangers are small, but poorly understood and not yet well managed.”

Overall, wrote Ord, “the main relevant question is the ratio of peaceful to hostile civilisations. We have very little evidence about whether this is high or low, and there is no scientific consensus.

[Anti Facts Sir]

I'm sure Earth is on the extra-terrestrial sat nav system.

 

Easy to find anyway, that watery shithole just next to the sun.

[Pinkiebee]

3 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

I'm sure Earth is on the extra-terrestrial sat nav system.

 

Easy to find anyway, that watery shithole just next to the sun.

I think your probably right.  If they are capable of getting here in anything like a useful time frame they quite probebly already know we are here.

 

Turning up tens of thousands of  years from now with an invasion fleet seems a bit pointless 

[truepositive]

That particular ship sailed long ago, but it's good to hear rational things from a scientist at least.

[screamingeagle]

LMAO!!! 

there are days when i think those people are complete idiots(with a lot of money)

[zArk]

[Grumpy Owl]

3 hours ago, Truthblast said:

However, Anders Sandberg, a senior research fellow at Oxford’s Future of Humanity Institute, warned that sharing such information with intelligent life presents a risk that must be considered.

 

Dear me, everything is a 'risk' now, and we must be protected from everything, even if the risk is tiny.

[Pinkiebee]

1 hour ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

Dear me, everything is a 'risk' now, and we must be protected from everything, even if the risk is tiny.

The problem with alien attack is we have no idea what the risk actually is. 

 

If there is an advanced and hostile civilisation with in travelling distance. Then the risk isnt low it would seem to have a probability of 1

[Human10]

14 minutes ago, Pinkiebee said:

The problem with alien attack is we have no idea what the risk actually is. 

 

If there is an advanced and hostile civilisation with in travelling distance. Then the risk isnt low it would seem to have a probability of 1

If they were so advanced chances are they would help to get rid of Earth vermin to protect Universe from them in the future...

 

[Pinkiebee]

Just now, Human10 said:

If they were so advanced chances are they would help to get rid of Earth vermin to protect Universe from them in the future...

 

That seems unlikely to be honest.  I was speaking of being technically advanced rather that culturally or spiritually advanced.

 

I'd guess that they had advanced for much the same reason we had and thus their morals and leadership were no better 

[Grumpy Owl]

1 hour ago, Pinkiebee said:

The problem with alien attack is we have no idea what the risk actually is. 

 

If there is an advanced and hostile civilisation with in travelling distance. Then the risk isnt low it would seem to have a probability of 1

 

The thing is that astronomers and scientists have been beaming out transmissions into space for decades, as well as launching probes such as the Voyagers.

 

I remember reading years ago about how even TV and radio broadcasts 'leak out' beyond our atmosphere and into space.

 

If an alien civilisation within travelling distance picks up Gogglebox, The Masked Singer or I'm A Celebrity, they've probably already decided we're not worth bothering with.

[Pinkiebee]

36 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

The thing is that astronomers and scientists have been beaming out transmissions into space for decades, as well as launching probes such as the Voyagers.

 

I remember reading years ago about how even TV and radio broadcasts 'leak out' beyond our atmosphere and into space.

 

If an alien civilisation within travelling distance picks up Gogglebox, The Masked Singer or I'm A Celebrity, they've probably already decided we're not worth bothering with.

Apparently the radio waves from our own communication will just be a fog of noise. So they are not watching east enders with out a licence. It has by now manged to reach a distance of about a 100 light years.  Strangely enough.  But would almost certainly be recognised as not natural even if they have no idea what we are watching or where its comming from

 

The actual attempts at communication are very directional. We pick a constellation and blast a message at it on a frequency that's a dip in the frequency of hydrogen. 

 

Again almost untranslatabe but the very fact it's on the frequency it is. Should tell them it's not natural . The idea that they blast back on the same frequency. Which hasnt happened as yet

 

Of course if it's the wrong constellation.  Or they are not monitoring an obscure frequency . Have already given up radio technology.  They wont get it. 

 

Pulsed lasers seems to be the direction of travel 

Edited April 18, 2022 by Pinkiebee

[wolfpavek1]

Imagine if we recieved codes from space many years ago and the error in  decoding is what we have subsequent ly created a total shithole..

Even our calendars suggest a change in the stars at some point.

 

So the welcome home party the palm leaves and the donkey gets to the west gate and goes what a complete disaster.

This is not what we told you.

 

The disaster sdistress single sent 3000years ago 

we are on our way make the planet livaable for us.

But man's tendency for greed and selfishness has gone completely astray. And ets gone naatgh leave them to it..

 

Scavengers or is it scVaENgUS

 If we re going to be dead soon then it makes sense that our et friends are preparing to rape the planet of all it's resources.

 

 

[Truthblast]

If the Electric Universe theory is true, there may be ways to transmit electricity from any point A in the universe to any point B.

 

Thus there may not even be a need to transmit radio signals, laser flashes or similar.

 

Since Nikola Tesla's work on this was LOCKED AWAY by the U.S. Govt it is anybody's guess WHAT IS REALLY POSSIBLE.

 

 

[Human10]

6 hours ago, Truthblast said:

If the Electric Universe theory is true, there may be ways to transmit electricity from any point A in the universe to any point B.

 

Thus there may not even be a need to transmit radio signals, laser flashes or similar.

 

Since Nikola Tesla's work on this was LOCKED AWAY by the U.S. Govt it is anybody's guess WHAT IS REALLY POSSIBLE.

 

 

Probably it would be cheaper to buy energy from the aliens... 

[Truthblast]

7 minutes ago, Human10 said:

Probably it would be cheaper to buy energy from the aliens... 

 

Perhaps they don't use any. Everyrhing is powered by tomato soup

 

[Scott Kirkland]

I think the scientist has watched the Battleship movie.