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I don't wish to add my thoughts at this time about 'who' they are but just information gathered!

 

So in their own words from collected email exchanges .... questions and answers!

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1. What is the idea behind Forgotten Languages. Was it found among a group of collectives, or did it start as an individual project?

 

The idea behind FL is to share knowledge. I do ignore who founded the group as such. The original name was 'lingua obliterata', meaning 'effaced languages' or, more specifically, 'barren languages'. It refers to a group predating the birth of Christianity whose mission is the recovery of supressed knowledge. The amount of knowledge currently available on the Internet is just a small fraction of the available written knowledge as most of the information remains exclusively on paper in libraries, whether public, private or personal. Our mission is to gain access to that knowledge and learn from it.

 

2. What does your screen name mean, how is it pronounced and what does it reference, etymological roots?. (Where did you get the idea for it etc.)

 

'Ayndryl' means 'by the river', 'tree by the river'. 'Ayn' comes from Manks 'Awin', meaning 'river', and 'Dryl' is the name of the tree of life, hence 'Ayndryl' means 'the tree of life by the river'.

 

3. How many people are involved with Forgotten Languages, writing papers, update posts, and theorizing?

 

There are currently 35 contributors to the web site. Each contributor is the master of his/her community. A community is a group of people interested in specific areas of knowledge. There are big communities, like the Lilithians - whose master is Lyaeryn - and the Sufis (Deyynah), amounting to some 50 people, and there are smaller communities, like Legio Diabolica or the Circle of the Kedeth, amounting to some 5 individuals. Only masters do post.

 

4. Why is the website called Forgotten Languages, is there a particular association that led to your name being such, given your vast choice of possible titles involving the numerous langauges found integrated into your website?

 

Please see answer to question 1.) above.

 

5. Are the languages entirely crafted by your team, or is there some kind of particular process in forming them?

 

The languages are crafted by each community because each area of knowledge requires specific vocabulary and semantic space. The process for generating the vocabulary is mostly based on phonosemantics, for we firmly believe there is a strong connection between mind, sound, and power.

 

6. Why is this information for the public to see, if most of it is undecipherable to the average internet user?

 

This is so because our communities are spread all over the world, including regions where access to the Internet is hard and difficult, either due to political reasons, or because the only coverage is via cell phones. Most users read the information on the site, study that information, extract knowledge, and exchange knowledge via the master of their community, who in turns posts whatever they feel will increase the global knowledge of the group. Bear in mind that only half the population on this planet has access to the Internet.

 

7. Do your uploads on YouTube have any kind of significance for the users of Forgotten Languages? You call them music and audiovisual projects created by your organization, and of course, moreover, is the content created by a variety of users and not exclusively you?

 

Videos in our channel are an alternative way to communicate knowledge. Music is a powerful way to induce altered states of consciousness that sometimes are required to access primordial knowledge.

 

8. My team and I have read a number of your articles, and one particular segment in Eng penyave reference to a set of beliefs that your organization might hold. With mentions of Alchemy, and Theosophy and other forms of credence, we'd like to clearly establish what exactly Forgotten Languages values.

 

Our axiology is based on the premise that consciousness is a state of matter, and that consciousness is a way to organize matter and energy in an efficient way to store knowledge about the environment and the Universe. This knowledge must be accessible to future conscious life forms to help them, in turn, to understand the Universe. Knowledge is what guarantess Free Will, hence we believe knowledge is freedom. Knowledge comes in many ways of which language is just but one. Depending on how is knowledge encoded you need to take one or another approach to access it. This also implies that there are life forms with different biologies and mental processes, and if you wish to share knowledge you need to fully understand those life forms, and make then understand you.

 

9. In reference to God, would your deliberation of his image of him be that of an evangelical approach, or rather in reference to the dharma and the cosmic order of Hindi and Buddhist religions?

 

In our view, Religion is a way to encode a set of beliefs. It is a belief system, one of many belief systems, all equally important, and each of them being more efficient than the others for a specific knowledge. Yet, access to primodial knowledge requires to gain access to all of those belief systems.

 

10. Holding of course, to your mention as well that you may believe that the sciences and God are two sides of the same coin. So would you consider yourselves to be Deists and/or believe in God as a sentient being, or do you believe that science in a sense IS GOD?

 

We do not believe in the existence of God as a conscious Creator. We believe in matter and energy. We do believe in the idea of God as a vehicle to help people to organize their beliefs, but for us God, as a Creator, is not a premise.

 

11. If you have used original processes to create these languages, could you detail us through the significance of your process? I want to try and get an understanding of why you would make these languages and post the information within public space, would it not be easier to use an existing language and discuss the information privately?

 

Please, refer to our answer in question 6.) above. Languages do evolve as they are meant to encode knowledge about a changing Reality. We've reached a point in which existing natural languages are not efficient to explain certain areas of Reality. A good example is Physics, which is based on Mathematics, and that constantly fails to accomodate other key areas of Reality like, for instance, Metaphysics. How would Physics tackle the issue of Consciousness? How would you ever understand Dreams if you use Mathematics? And what about Language itself? Can Language be analyzed and described using Language itself? Isn't that cheating? One language encompassing all knowledge is not possible. You need an entire new rainbow of languages to understand such a complex entity as Reality. By 'language' we do here mean 'senses', too.

 

12. You have told me multiple times that communication is a process. Do you think that communication as an art has deteriorated over the past century?

 

Communication is just a survival strategy used by all life forms. All species use one or another form of communication. Language is just a small subset used by humans and those life forms who have a similar neural setup. Yet, language won't allow you to communicate with ants. Your question about whether communication has deteriorated during the past century requires a longer reply. We think natural languages are slowly becoming less natural, and more artificial. This means mankind is going through a new stage in its evolution, and human biology is slowly adapting to a changin environment, hence human languages are also changing. Whether this is a deterioration or an enhaсenment is difficult to say. It all depends on whether you new way of communicating serves your purposes and goals, as a species.

 

13. What is the largest misconception, you believe about your organization Forgotten Languages and their platform.

 

We have no answer to this question.

 

14. If you could change something about our current existence what would it be, what would you see as a perfect society, why?

 

If we were able to change something in your current existence we would become gods, and that would kill free will and would turn your civilization into a mentored civilization that didn't learn to survive by itself. We do not have the right to interfere with anyone's belief system. We are morally obligued to feel compassion and to help others without them noticing, but before helping anyone one needs to fully understand the consequences of helping. Saving someone's life does not turn you into the owner of that life; not saving someone's life does turn you into a being not worthy of Consciousness. That's the dilemma that takes an entire lifetime to solve.

 

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Alashi is the language in which the descendants of Asoka, called by The Nine, wrote their magical texts. Elyam is the name of the region extending from Northern Syria to Western India, including the valleys in which the Harappa civilization flourished, in Punjab. The Nine have survived through generations, and their language evolved accordingly receiving different names each time (Shvati, Drizza). Drizza - Driza, Drizel - is the name of a city where the followers of The Nine took refuge. Actually, it was more like a fortified monastery than a city


Dediaalif is the name of a secret group of people, mostly Dervishes and Sufi, that gathered the information existing about The Nine and kept on with the tradition of translating their sacred texts for future generations. The way they do it is by tampering with existing languages and inserting, here and there, paragraphs in which they transfer their primordial knowledge. The language in which the books they wish to use to cover their knowledge are written are called carrier languages. Hebrew, Aramaic, Coptic, Latin, and Greek were the main carrier languages. Interspersed here and there, they inserted their corrections for initiated readers to find. Most of the books in the Nag Hammadi library - also known as the "Chenoboskion Manuscripts", or as the "Gnostic Gospels" - were used as carriers, that is: if you are not initiated, you won't be able to find the underlying knowledge. The same happens with the Bible.


There is no author, but a group of authors. If you pay due attention you will notice there are exactly nine authors, for Nine is our sacred number. I hope my words be illuminating to you, friend.

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Some more questions and answers ....

 

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- As you well know by now, your website has resurfaced in the public eye'

 

Yes, it happened before. This is something we find natural.

 

- you are presumably the ringleader or liaison for the research group behind Forgotten Languages.

 

I am the one who offered myself to keep in touch with people, yet we have no leaders.

 

- Cassini Diskus. A method to embed a 'universal language' into audiovisual stimuli if I am interpreting it right?

 

That is correct, if, and only if the beings you try to communicate with have eyes and a brain with the correct neurological arrangement. To communicate with plants, for instance, the setup is different

 

- What is this universal language?

 

Thoughts. Photons bounce off from objects, they then travel to your eye, and the are converted into neuroelectrical signals that your brain uses to perceive the object. If you can characterize and encode those signals and transmit them to the brain directly, you'll perceive the objects, even when they are not there. If you can devise a system that generates those photons and send them directly to the eye, you will perceive those objects, even when they do not exist. If we encode signals representing a beautiful dawn over a foggy sea and send those signals to your eye, you will see a beautiful dawn over a foggy sea, even if you are inside an empty room, even if there is no sun, no sea, no fog.

 

- how can you be so certain there are ten dimensions?

 

If Planck's mass is what it is, and if photons travel at the speed they do, there is no other solution to the field equations.

 

- what is the nature of the upper six?

 

You do live in a 10-dimensional space-time. You, too, are a 10-dimensional being. You are a quantum being, too. That's the stuff you are made of. You cannot escape your condition

 

- can one make a connection between your theories on time travel and the veracity of the theory colloquially known as the 'Mandela effect?

 

The "Mandela Effect' is a meme. It has a rational neurological explanation. Photon entanglement, actions at a distance, are not neurological effects, though. They are physical effects. if someday your civilization tames gravity, next step will be to tame Time

 

- why is your site in plain sight? Is this because you want the site to be found?

 

We do not feel a need to hide. Now, consider this: when you explore space, you need to leave landmarks in order for other explorers to find you. Tell me, what landmarks would you leave when you explore Time? Anyone who wished to find us will do it the easiest way: using a browser to find us. In order for them to be able to find us, we need keywords no-one else uses. You can perform a query in one of our languages, and the results of your search will show to you where we are.

 

- you want people to stumble upon it and watch your videos so that you may then indoctrinate them or experiment on them or whatever?

 

No, we don't. We do not interfere with your people, and we are not interested in creating belief systems. We are deeply sad some people need to feel bad and scared, and that they use our videos as an excuse for justifying their nightmares and headaches. Our videos are also landmarks for explorers to get useful information that makes their exploration safer.

 

- I have little knowledge compared to you and your team

 

You don't. Believe me.

 

- I will answer any questions you may have for me in return.

 

We have a question for you: what's the meaning of being born, having dreams, hesitations, feeling fear, feeling happiness, if all you know about biology states you will pass away?

We have a remark for you: you are indeed a courageous species if you live your life positively believing that, one day, you will die and that will be the end.

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Is this a genuine correspondence with the web site owner/operator content creator?

 

I checked it out and thought it to be amusing, lots of militaristic, UFO stuff in there but tries too hard at being mystical with reflected images, fractals and the music could be better, a bit predictable after listening for a while.

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2 hours ago, sock muppet said:

Is this a genuine correspondence with the web site owner/operator content creator?

 

Well they (as stated in the above posts) are the one who interacts with any 'questions' from outside their group .... not the owner/operator!

 

As to genuine .... I have collected any correspondence I could find and the above are parts of 3 email exchanges (I have them all as images .... and I have more).

 

I have emailed them myself .... five times in total .... I had replies to three of the five.

 

2 hours ago, sock muppet said:

with reflected images, fractals and the music

 

The images I have no problem with but I only ever began one video .... and stopped as I had read enough to know that (in part) they are making a 4 dimensional language which interacts directly to a human sub-consciousness without awareness!

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On 4/16/2022 at 9:07 AM, Guest said:

- how can you be so certain there are ten dimensions?

 

If Planck's mass is what it is, and if photons travel at the speed they do, there is no other solution to the field equations.

 

- what is the nature of the upper six?

 

You do live in a 10-dimensional space-time. You, too, are a 10-dimensional being. You are a quantum being, too. That's the stuff you are made of. You cannot escape your condition

 

As far as i know what they are talking about is String Theory, which has to have eleven dimensions for it to describe existence that we are within, as for the notion of dimensions existing above the 4D space we find ourselves in is a bit misleading, as the gist of it requires eleven dimensions to explain the 4D space-time apparent to our plane of existence. Please correct me if i am wrong as i find it a bit baffling also.

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On 4/18/2022 at 4:12 PM, sock muppet said:

 

As far as i know what they are talking about is String Theory, which has to have eleven dimensions for it to describe existence that we are within, as for the notion of dimensions existing above the 4D space we find ourselves in is a bit misleading, as the gist of it requires eleven dimensions to explain the 4D space-time apparent to our plane of existence. Please correct me if i am wrong as i find it a bit baffling also.

 

I know OP is no longer here to defend his post but what do you think of this sock?

I agree to the point that we are multidimensional beings but the whoe FAQ seems like some kind of cult man.

A bit fishy. M theory says that we have 11 dimensions but that's as far as mathematics have got to.

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On 5/29/2022 at 7:26 PM, DaleP said:

 

I know OP is no longer here to defend his post but what do you think of this sock?

I agree to the point that we are multidimensional beings but the whoe FAQ seems like some kind of cult man.

A bit fishy. M theory says that we have 11 dimensions but that's as far as mathematics have got to.

 

M theory includes brains that are likened to hanging your bed sheets out on the washing line and an infinite number of them, so not very elegant for a theory of everything, although string theory itself does explain a lot where other ways of describing Nature fails or is incomplete in its description, as for FL group i have no idea but the premise seems to be forgotten languages, but i am thinking in terms of information rather than everyday ways of saying 'how do you do' a billion different ways.

I am also thinking about light workers in connection with it though i no nothing about light workers except perhaps they are trying to create a merkaba which allegedly acts like a space ship to wrap around the Earth to raise it to some other point in existence, the premise with that lot is the Earth fell out it's tree one day and has been descending ever since, thus the attempt to restore it, and conversely it could be an attempt to capture it because i have cynical mind that thinks this way, hard to say what's what really, whats your take?

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