Athenry04 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Probably just a legit accident, however at the moment I don't believe nowt happens without reason. I'll keep my eyes on this one. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/boeing-737-carrying-133-people-23449878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAARPING_On Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) I was just about to post this too, and I’m thinking along the same lines as you... My question is, who exactly was on this plane and what could their links be to what is currently going on in the world at the moment? Could be covid related, could be Ukraine related... definitely worth keeping an eye on this one for sure... https://www.rt.com/news/552371-china-boeing-eastern-mountains/ Edited March 21, 2022 by HAARPING_On 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsjaybigjay Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 It was most likely an accident it was an older plane and china ain't known for there good maintenance especially if its a plane used for internal flights. That being said it does come at a time when china are being criticized for not condemning Russia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Itsjaybigjay said: It was most likely an accident it was an older plane and china ain't known for there good maintenance especially if its a plane used for internal flights. That being said it does come at a time when china are being criticized for not condemning Russia My thinking also. Though yeah, could just be crap old plane ends up crashing, nothing to see here. Just strange timing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatdayforfreedom Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 8 hours ago, Athenry04 said: Probably just a legit accident, however at the moment I don't believe nowt happens without reason. I'll keep my eyes on this one. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/boeing-737-carrying-133-people-23449878 133 people? Hmmm, 33 again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Here we go again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 an accident that someone was filming on their phone just at that time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 And people STILL hold the phone vertically instead of horizontally! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhail Liebestein Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) I'm glad i checked for this thread before starting a new one. The weird thing with this crash is the angle of descent- really not what you'd expect. These planes can glide on no power. I'm think either pilot suicide, some sort of precision explosive or perhaps hackers? Hackers including state sponsored one. If hackers, could this be misguidance in terms of the target? Edited March 21, 2022 by Mikhail Liebestein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifth element Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1471347&sid=a6778aeea23380843046c55a4f0185df While it's too early to speculate about the cause(s) of this accident, a stall looks rather unlikely. Based on FR24 data, the speed remains very constant, as the rate of descent. A stall would require a drop in airspeed, followed by a rapid onset of a descent, followed by significant variations of speed and descent rate. Performing an emergency descent you wouldn’t be able to descend with 30,000 ft/m. An emergency descent is only about a 10 degree descent angle. Looking at the falling timing, the fall looks like a free fall to me. Doesn't seem to be any control whatsoever. The lateral distance seems also consistent with a free fall hypothesis. I hate to speculate but even a plane with both wings ripped off wouldn’t be heading straight down toward the ground, it would be tumbling. The only way I can think of a profile like that is an aircraft deliberately being put into that state. The only way to be forced into a direct 90 degree dive is absolutely deliberate action by whoever was behind the controls. There have been instances where recently vaccinated pilots just dropped dead of a heart attack. But China is not using the Pfizer vaccine that causes sudden heart attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saved Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 8 hours ago, sock muppet said: And people STILL hold the phone vertically instead of horizontally! Even those who know how to film correctly are abandoning landscape mode for portrait as a first instinct when something happens that might interest social media. This is to appease the masses who flock to Instagram and particularly TikTok over YouTube. I have just had to convert a 1920 by 1080 file into a 1080 by 1920 file for the same reason and was thinking last night that if I wanted the most exposure of a video I will have to choose portrait these days as the Pot Noodle in a microwave generation are tuned into watching videos not much longer than 30 seconds before moving onto the next one. I disagreed with the wife (before we split) over our two eldest kids having a mobile phone. As was usually the case did the opposite of my counsel and so went out and purchased two mobiles on contracts and now she doesn't see much of them - straight home from school and straight onto TikTok to have their brains dulled. I think we have lost them but the ex wife just likes to get victories over me and my old fashioned ways. That just makes me more determined to develop their ways of thinking (along critical lines) when I do see them. Regarding this plane crash, it is likely just a plane crash but I have noticed that this last two years I automatically assume a conspiracy until proved otherwise. I have seen far too much bullshit to think any other way. This report gives a short nod to a possible mid air explosion: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhail Liebestein Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 9 hours ago, Fifth element said: . The only way I can think of a profile like that is an aircraft deliberately being put into that state. The only way to be forced into a direct 90 degree dive is absolutely deliberate action by whoever was behind the controls. There have been instances where recently vaccinated pilots just dropped dead of a heart attack. But China is not using the Pfizer vaccine that causes sudden heart attacks. What about a cyber attack? It is a US made craft, operated in China. May be hackers just saw the opportunity to get into an insecure system with a made in the USA tag on that might disrupt China relations further? This type of attack has been predicted for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAARPING_On Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 16 hours ago, Mikhail Liebestein said: I'm think either pilot suicide, some sort of precision explosive or perhaps hackers? Hackers including state sponsored one. Or perhaps pilot death due to vaccine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sock muppet Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 10 hours ago, Saved said: Even those who know how to film correctly are abandoning landscape mode for portrait as a first instinct when something happens that might interest social media. This is to appease the masses who flock to Instagram and particularly TikTok over YouTube. I have just had to convert a 1920 by 1080 file into a 1080 by 1920 file for the same reason and was thinking last night that if I wanted the most exposure of a video I will have to choose portrait these days as the Pot Noodle in a microwave generation are tuned into watching videos not much longer than 30 seconds before moving onto the next one. I like your answer, but surely the pot noodle generation (good observation that, i like it) know how to alter the resolution, thus reducing file size, they do know this don't they Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 44 minutes ago, sock muppet said: they do know this don't they No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 5:31 PM, greatdayforfreedom said: 133 people? Hmmm, 33 again. Official number now 132. 9 crew. 123 passengers BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 9 hours ago, Mikhail Liebestein said: cyber attack? The plane disintegrated then fell. Either an explosion (onboard bomb) - missile or a catastrophic mechanical failure. Depressurisation from the smallest of cabin / window structural failures can completely destroy an aircraft in mid flight.. :0( BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 3 hours ago, HAARPING_On said: Or perhaps pilot death due to vaccine? that would need to take out the co-pilot as well. Not sure we can chalk this one upto vaxident Did you see the angle that plane went down at? VERY steep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Basket Case said: The plane disintegrated then fell. Either an explosion (onboard bomb) - missile or a catastrophic mechanical failure. Depressurisation from the smallest of cabin / window structural failures can completely destroy an aircraft in mid flight.. :0( Would seem the most plausible. Any plane still intact would somehow manage to descend at a less dramatic rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Anti Facts Sir said: Would seem the most plausible. Any plane still intact would somehow manage to descend at a less dramatic rate. Yep. Even with all it's engines out it would still come down a lot slower than how it appears to have.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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