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[legion]

@TheConsultant 

Yes....Distilled water does not conduct electricity. l checked my first jug with a multi-meter and there was no circuit. l was at first surprised by this but then remembered back when vehicle batteries were supplied 'dry'....and before use they needed filling with distilled water. (not so now with modern un-servicable batteries) This is to 'isolate' each individual battery plate so it can function as designed.

So it's the 'impurities' in the water that conducts electricity - salt water being extremely conductive. The impurities make / complete any given  circuit of electrical charge. Water doesn't have a charge. But impure water carries any given charge,
 

l drink distilled water for it clean-ness - no yucky gacky shite.... l don't drink it because it does not conduct electricity.

As soon as it enters the body it becomes 'impure'....no ? As soon as it enters the stomach it mixes with digestive juices and other organic material which will then conduct electrical charges. 

Once within the body it will behave electrically exactly the same as any ordinary impure water.

Hence - the only thing your doing by drinking distilled water is making sure you're not ingesting some unknown undesirable substance...?

 

[legion]

3 hours ago, zArk said:

yeah, thats where i was.

 

distilling is very expensive now. Purified water is a good thing , RO water is better. In my situation i went for purified with carbon filter (removes bacteria, pathogens, chemical poisons ) and then zerowater filter to remove the remaining and for ion exchange.

 

its cheaper than a distiller and provides top quality water albeit not the same body effect

 

 

l'll have a good look into this, thanks...

 

ln the meantime 2 links for others to see;

https://www.freshwatersystems.com/blogs/blog/what-is-reverse-osmosis 

https://zerowater.com/ 

 

 

[sickofallthebollocks]

4 hours ago, TheConsultant said:

Evaporated water occurring naturally in nature and a distiller are different, one has minerals the other does not. One is conductive, the other is not, one is structured one is not. Vastly different lab/artificial process vs natural process. 

Thanks @TheConsultant  I was being a dumb fuck when asking why is it a solvent, apologies,  I just looked into this and (re) discovered it can be anything that dilutes a 'solute'.
Which I understand better now.
Appreciate all the info - I want a distiller and am in the process of saving up for a good one, as I know people who have them and are very pleased, however, running costs are now high because of the 'fake engineered everything crisis' going on.

EDIT: will be looking closer at @zArks method also, what with the sky high bills on the way.

What you say sounds great and thanks for the info, what legion says though about once the water hits your tummy with possibly last nights kebab and beer floating around there along with various enzymes, acids bacteria and everything else also rings true.

 

Edited September 28, 2022 by sickofallthebollocks
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[TheConsultant]

Just now, sickofallthebollocks said:

Thanks @TheConsultant  I was being a dumb fuck when asking why is it a solvent, I just looked into this and (re) discovered it can be anything that dilutes a 'solute'.
Which I understand better now.
Appreciate all the info - I want a distiller and am in the process of saving up for a good one, as I know people who have them and are very pleased, however, running costs are now high because of the 'fake engineered everything crisis' going on.

What you say sounds great and thanks for the info, what legion says though about once the water hits your tummy with possibly last nights kebab and beer floating around there along with various enzymes, acids bacteria and everything else also rings true.

yes what legion wrote is incorrect, it is not impurities that allow it to conduct electricity and nor does taking impurities from stomach allow it to conduct more completely. Think of it like a wholefood vs a processed food, only in this instance the processed food is non conductive and of no mineral benefit. Salts and minerals allow it to conduct electricity, I wouldn't call those impurities at any stretch

[legion]

1 hour ago, TheConsultant said:

yes what legion wrote is incorrect, it is not impurities that allow it to conduct electricity

 

Pure water is hydrogen and oxygen molecules only.
Pure water does not conduct electricity.

It's 'other things' suspended in water that conducts electricity.

[TheConsultant]

1 hour ago, TheConsultant said:

Salts and minerals allow it to conduct electricity, I wouldn't call those impurities at any stretch

 

[legion]

2 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

 

Pure water is hydrogen and oxygen only.
Water with something in it is impure water - hence the term impurities

Edited September 28, 2022 by legion

[legion]

 

[TheConsultant]

2 minutes ago, legion said:

Pure water is hydrogen and oxygen only.
Water with something in it is impure water - hence the term impurities

Lab purity, sure, its not that, salts and minerals are required by the body to be ingested by the body but to call them impurities outside of lab setting meaning of "pure" would be ignorant.

[legion]

1 minute ago, TheConsultant said:

Lab purity, sure

On my table and in my kitchen purity.

l get my salts and minerals and vitamins from better sources than Thames Water  

And lm not ignorant  

[TheConsultant]

4 minutes ago, legion said:

On my table and in my kitchen purity.

l get my salts and minerals and vitamins from better sources than Thames Water  

And lm not ignorant  

You are if you are overlooking what I have said the entire time





A good filter is the best step of action, magnetised water is another as it becomes more easily absorbed by the body. Distilled water consumption is for people who do not understand bio-chemistry, including some "bio-chemists" its really not complicated to understand. Salts and minerals are a natural process which is why spring water is so good, artificial means are not nearly as good and in terms of pure lab water, you are only leaching your body of minerals and salts. , but feel free to do as you wish. Doesn't affect me does it? 

Edited September 28, 2022 by TheConsultant

[legion]

3 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

Salts and minerals are a natural process which is why spring water is so good

lf l lived next to a good clean spring l would drink the water. Gladly.
The water from the 2 wells at Glastonbury are wonderful.

l live in London. And l dont trust corporations and governments.

lf l have more than enough salts and minerals in my diet then if ....and l say IF - pure water leaches salts and minerals then its not a problem.
 

The distilled water is immediately dispersed around the body and flushes toxins out - if it does 'leach' then it will leach and flush even more  toxins out.

 

[legion]

 

[legion]

An interesting video IMO 

 

 

 

[JCP]

I would advise against drinking "scrubbed" water on a regular basis, be it distilled or RO water, because it is devoid of the needed minerals; however there is an alternative if you want clean mineral water.

 

You can re-mineralize scrubbed or pure water by adding Himalayan salt through a sole (pronounced “so-lay”). It provides all 84 minerals and trace elements. I drink 1 teaspoon of sole mixed in a glass of RO water as soon as I wake every morning.

 

 

What opened my eyes about the need for salt was the book "Water and Salt, The Essence of Life" by Barbara Hendel

 

https://www.amazon.com/Water-Salt-Essence-Barbara-Hendel/dp/0974451517/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2PZEAB31KD59V&keywords=water+%26+salt+the+essence+of+life&qid=1657131163&sprefix=water+%26+salt+%2Caps%2C111&sr=8-1

 

White table salt is the by-product of salt, after they've stripped all of the minerals from it for making supplements. It is 100% sodium chloride. In order for the human body to process sodium chloride, the rest of the minerals and trace elements are needed and work in synergy to eliminate the SC. Without the minerals, white salt is a poison. In ancient times, pure salt was even used as partial payment for workers .... it's that important to life. It's not by accident that all life, plants, animals, insects, marine life, etc, contain not just the same minerals, but also the same proportions and percentages as the oceans from whence we came. Himalayan salt hydrates the body and aids in detoxification. White salt dehydrates the body and without the minerals, cannot eliminate the sodium chloride. Himalayan salt doesn't taste as salty either due to it's lower sodium chloride, and high mineral content.  

 

The sole gives me a mild boost of energy when I wake. It's not a dramatic boost, but I can feel it. I also use it as a nasal rinse. I use a Neilmed sinus rinse bottle, and mix .4 (note point 4) teaspoons fine grain Himalayan salt with 1/8 teaspoon of baking soda to cleanse my sinuses. I specifically rinse after going to the store or being around people that have been vaxxed. If I get a headache, I always try rinsing my sinuses first and more times than not, it usually helps. And yes, I use it as a gargle when needed, with a detox bath, in lamps and an inhaler.

 

 

When you make a sole, the salt will dissolve until the solution is supersaturated to a percentage of 26% salt, when it will stop dissolving. You want to make sure there is always salt remaining in the bottom to make sure it maintains the 26% level. That way you know what dosage you are consuming.

 

The hysteria about white salt is true and leads to health problems, but they never tell us about the benefits of natural salt. They tend to lump all salts into one category and mislead us that all salts are bad for us. Even when I consume processed foods, I add a little Himalayan salt to help process the white salt it contains.

 

This may sound silly to most, but I also bless anything I put in my body that contains water by telling it "I Love You". Water is imprint-able and benefits from positive vibrations.  

 

 

“All of us have in our veins the exact same percentage of salt in our blood that exists in the ocean, and, therefore, we have salt in our blood, in our sweat, in our tears. We are tied to the ocean. And when we go back to the sea - whether it is to sail or to watch it - we are going back from whence we came.”

― John F. Kennedy

[zArk]

22 hours ago, legion said:

@TheConsultant 

Yes....Distilled water does not conduct electricity. l checked my first jug with a multi-meter and there was no circuit.

 

tbh i think there is a misunderstanding surrounding drinking distilled water and drinking purified water from the outset.

Drinking to prevent dehydration is base level health attitude . This is the attitude of mainstream health professionals. This is the prevailing attitude of society.

Eating vegetables everyday will provide enough water to keep the body hydrated.

 

Over drinking is used to help the body clean itself, get your body firing again and assist with general function.

 

 

[zArk]

18 hours ago, JCP said:

I would advise against drinking "scrubbed" water on a regular basis, be it distilled or RO water, because it is devoid of the needed minerals; however there is an alternative if you want clean mineral water.

 

You can re-mineralize scrubbed or pure water by adding Himalayan salt through a sole (pronounced “so-lay”). It provides all 84 minerals and trace elements. I drink 1 teaspoon of sole mixed in a glass of RO water as soon as I wake every morning.

 

 

What opened my eyes about the need for salt was the book "Water and Salt, The Essence of Life" by Barbara Hendel

 

https://www.amazon.com/Water-Salt-Essence-Barbara-Hendel/dp/0974451517/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2PZEAB31KD59V&keywords=water+%26+salt+the+essence+of+life&qid=1657131163&sprefix=water+%26+salt+%2Caps%2C111&sr=8-1

 

White table salt is the by-product of salt, after they've stripped all of the minerals from it for making supplements. It is 100% sodium chloride. In order for the human body to process sodium chloride, the rest of the minerals and trace elements are needed and work in synergy to eliminate the SC. Without the minerals, white salt is a poison. In ancient times, pure salt was even used as partial payment for workers .... it's that important to life. It's not by accident that all life, plants, animals, insects, marine life, etc, contain not just the same minerals, but also the same proportions and percentages as the oceans from whence we came. Himalayan salt hydrates the body and aids in detoxification. White salt dehydrates the body and without the minerals, cannot eliminate the sodium chloride. Himalayan salt doesn't taste as salty either due to it's lower sodium chloride, and high mineral content.  

 

The sole gives me a mild boost of energy when I wake. It's not a dramatic boost, but I can feel it. I also use it as a nasal rinse. I use a Neilmed sinus rinse bottle, and mix .4 (note point 4) teaspoons fine grain Himalayan salt with 1/8 teaspoon of baking soda to cleanse my sinuses. I specifically rinse after going to the store or being around people that have been vaxxed. If I get a headache, I always try rinsing my sinuses first and more times than not, it usually helps. And yes, I use it as a gargle when needed, with a detox bath, in lamps and an inhaler.

 

 

When you make a sole, the salt will dissolve until the solution is supersaturated to a percentage of 26% salt, when it will stop dissolving. You want to make sure there is always salt remaining in the bottom to make sure it maintains the 26% level. That way you know what dosage you are consuming.

 

The hysteria about white salt is true and leads to health problems, but they never tell us about the benefits of natural salt. They tend to lump all salts into one category and mislead us that all salts are bad for us. Even when I consume processed foods, I add a little Himalayan salt to help process the white salt it contains.

 

This may sound silly to most, but I also bless anything I put in my body that contains water by telling it "I Love You". Water is imprint-able and benefits from positive vibrations.  

 

 

“All of us have in our veins the exact same percentage of salt in our blood that exists in the ocean, and, therefore, we have salt in our blood, in our sweat, in our tears. We are tied to the ocean. And when we go back to the sea - whether it is to sail or to watch it - we are going back from whence we came.”

― John F. Kennedy

right, i dont wanna sound like Shredded Sport Science

 

but before i would try any promoted diet or substance i would like to see a study with bio-chemical results.

 

i am sure that a Xmg of himalyan salt will be beneficial to the body as the body needs a salt

i am sure that the body can benefit from 84 trace minerals

 

but my concern would be that the amount Xmg of those 84 trace minerals to benefit my body (at 2% by volume of himalyan salt) would mean i am over dosing on sodium chloride by volume.

 

With all chemicals the dose is all important i.e you wouldnt give a child the same dose of salt that an adult can handle

 

If i drank more than 6 pints of distilled water a day on a detox cycle, i wouldnt be very clever. i can handle 6 pints. A child could not.

 

so whats the sodium chloride dose recommend for beneficial effects?

whats the toxic dose?

what benefits are to be noticed or are the benefits purely biochemical invisible?

 

 

 

Edited September 29, 2022 by zArk

[Tinfoil Hat]

I bought a distiller a couple of months ago, and I wouldn't go back. The amount of slimey gunk left behind in the tank each time is shocking, and then whatever the extra filter in its spout removes isn't even visible.

 

I bought a couple of bottles of trace minerals at the same time and have used about half a bottle so far by adding a few drops to each 4l prepared. But having read since that you can just add a couple of grinds of pink himalyan salt for the same effect, that's what I'll be doing when the bottled stuff's used up, as I always have that salt in the house. Adding the trace minerals just stops it from drawing minerals from your body. 

[JCP]

13 hours ago, zArk said:

right, i dont wanna sound like Shredded Sport Science

 

but before i would try any promoted diet or substance i would like to see a study with bio-chemical results.

 

i am sure that a Xmg of himalyan salt will be beneficial to the body as the body needs a salt

i am sure that the body can benefit from 84 trace minerals

 

but my concern would be that the amount Xmg of those 84 trace minerals to benefit my body (at 2% by volume of himalyan salt) would mean i am over dosing on sodium chloride by volume.

 

With all chemicals the dose is all important i.e you wouldnt give a child the same dose of salt that an adult can handle

 

If i drank more than 6 pints of distilled water a day on a detox cycle, i wouldnt be very clever. i can handle 6 pints. A child could not.

 

so whats the sodium chloride dose recommend for beneficial effects?

whats the toxic dose?

what benefits are to be noticed or are the benefits purely biochemical invisible?

 

 

 

 

No, you wouldn't be overdosing because 1 teaspoon of sole contains 478 mg. of sodium and the recommended limit (according to the government) is 2300 mg. per day. 1 teaspoon of pink Himalayan salt contains about 1,700 mg of sodium, compared to 2,300 mg in the same amount of white table salt. When I suggested not drinking distilled water, I meant over a long period of time or an everyday thing. I have heard of drinking distilled water as a detox on a short term basis, but I have never tried it. The sole also claims to detox your system along with providing all 84 minerals; and the minerals work in synergy to process the sodium. What makes white table salt so harmful is the lack of synergistic minerals to help the body process the sodium.

 

Of course there are many variables to consider like food, activity, how much you sweat, etc.; so what is perfect for each individual varies. I sweat a lot, so I feel I can tolerate more.

 

I drink 1 teaspoon sole with 8 oz of RO water as soon as I wake up (once a day) and get a little boost of energy from it. Not a speedy energy, but helps to shake the cobwebs like a cup of coffee. Mineral supplements are made by extracting them from natural salt (or sea water) and the by-product or waste is the poison white table salt ..... almost 100% sodium chloride. There is also a question of mineral uptake in supplements when isolated from it's natural synergistic source. Sometimes they have to trick the body to uptake certain minerals like calcium by chelating or bonding it to amino acids, whereas the body easily absorbs the trace mineral when from a natural source or sole. Natural salt also hydrates the body, while table salt does the opposite.

 

One of the reasons for making a sole is so it's easier to dose. When pink Himalayan salt is supersaturated in water, it will stop dissolving and be at 26% solution. 1 teaspoon of sole is 478 mg. of sodium. As far as children, I've seen different recommendations but the most popular is :

 

 

 

Here are the benefits of taking Himalayan salt sole on a daily basis:

 

It Hydrates You and Boosts Your Energy

Drinking a glass of Himalayan salt sole in the morning will give you an instant boost, and will make sure that you are well hydrated to start the day.

 

It Improves Digestion and Supports Your Thyroid and Adrenal Function

Himalayan pink salt aids your digestive system in absorbing essential nutrients from your food, and functioning effectively. This will especially help if you are trying to lose weight. The 84 trace minerals can also help to remove sediments in your body which could build up and lead to kidney or gall bladder stones, and various forms of rheumatism like arthritis.

 

It Helps Regulate Blood Sugar Levels, Hormone Levels and Blood Pressure

Taking sole every morning has been shown to contribute towards reducing blood pressure, regulating your hormone levels and it also acts as a boost to your blood sugar levels. When all three are in check, then you will notice an improvement in your sleep quality.

 

It Helps to Reduce Muscle Cramps

If you haven’t ingested enough salt, then it can be easy for your muscles to start to cramp up during exercise. Sole contains many essential minerals which will help to reduce muscle cramps during exercise, or just throughout the day.

 

It Helps You to Detox

Sole is naturally anti-bacterial and anti-fungal by nature, so it will help to target any dangerous bacteria in your system that could cause you illness. The sole mixture is also effective in re-energizing your cells due to the trace minerals in the salt. Even heavy metals in your system such as lead, arsenic and mercury are broken down and flushed through your system with the powerful effects of the minerals.

 

It Helps to Balance the pH Levels in the Body

The acid/alkaline balance in your body is extremely important, as if it swings too far either way, then it can cause you health problems. Drinking a glass of sole every morning will help to balance out your pH levels and keep illness away.

 

It Promotes Communication Between Nerve Cells

The salt in sole generates electrical properties when it is ingested with water, and it generates hydroelectric energy in your body’s cells. This helps your nerve cells function and communicate effectively.

 

It Aids Bone Health

Sole is alkalizing by nature, and packed full of trace minerals, so it naturally aids bone health. There is a theory that Osteoperosis may be caused by the body stripping bones of their minerals and calcium to neutralize the blood. Sole provides both essential minerals in the salt, and pure water in an alkaline form (when digested).

 

It is a Natural Anti-Histamine and Aids Sinus Problems

Sole is a natural anti-histamine, and will help to reduce the effects of allergies such as hay fever, and pet allergies. The effects of the salt will also helps to clear your sinuses, and flush any mucous and phlegm through your system.

 

It Helps to Maintain Healthy Hair, Skin and Nails

There are a lot of minerals in sole, and each one of these helps to contribute towards the maintenance of a healthy body. Sole is a great supplement to take to control acne, and for hair and nail growth.

 

It Reduces Varicose Veins

Sole reduces the appearance of varicose veins, and spider veins which can appear on thighs and legs. The Himalayan salt also helps to maintain a healthy heart beat, and is beneficial for those prone to feeling lightheaded.

How to Make Himalayan Salt Sole

Making sole is very simple, and the first part of the process will only take you a couple of minutes.

Firstly, you will need some Himalayan salt, here is a link to a great brand on Amazon.

You can also pick it up sometimes in local health stores – but if you do, make sure that it is 100% genuine pink Himalayan salt!

To mix things up a little, you can also mix in a bit of Celtic salt, and/or Real salt with your Himalayan rock salt. Both of these are great quality salts, and also contain many beneficial minerals.

Ingredients

• Himalayan Salt
• Distilled, or filtered water (you can get a cheap water filter jug here)
• A glass jar
• A non-metal lid (like this one)
• A plastic spoon/stirrer

The Process

1. Pour your salt into the jar until it is about a quarter full (either Himalayan salt, Celtic salt, Real salt or a mixture of all three).
2. Top up the jar with distilled/filtered water until the salt is completely covered. I normally clear the salt with water by a good couple of inches.
3. Put your lid on the jar and shake it, or give it a stir with your plastic spoon/stirrer.
4. Leave the jar overnight. If the salt is completely dissolved in the morning, then add more salt and leave it overnight again.
5. The sole will be ready to use when there is salt left at the bottom of the jar. This means that the water is completely saturated, and it cannot take up any more salt.

http://www.theorganicchoice.com/2016/12/26/himalayan-salt-sole/

 

 

[zArk]

On 9/30/2022 at 5:48 AM, JCP said:

No, you wouldn't be overdosing because 1 teaspoon of sole contains 478 mg. of sodium and the recommended limit (according to the government) is 2300 mg. per day

 

 

oh well, if the government says its ok. 

 

lers be sensible, eh?

 

gov says tap water is safe to drink

 

 

also the 84 minerals, at what dose are they in the teaspoon of salt?

are they rare minerals only found in hima salt?

 

you will find that all the minerals and salts can be found in a well balanced diet.

 

water is h2o only.  i would also look at structuring water , vortex maybe. 

 

the function of water in our bodies is not just to hydrate, tgats the base level crudity. 

distilled water performs a cleaning process and will reduce inflamation 

 

this has been researched and grudgingly shown to be correct.

 

whereas does himalyan salt added to water do anything a well balanced diet cannot? 

 

 

Edited October 9, 2022 by zArk

[BMarley]

1 hour ago, zArk said:

 

 

oh well, if the government says its ok. 

 

lers be sensible, eh?

 

gov says tap water is safe to drink

 

 

also the 84 minerals, at what dose are they in the teaspoon of salt?

are they rare minerals only found in hima salt?

 

you will find that all the minerals and salts can be found in a well balanced diet.

 

water is h2o only.  i would also look at structuring water , vortex maybe. 

 

the function of water in our bodies is not just to hydrate, tgats the base level crudity. 

distilled water performs a cleaning process and will reduce inflamation 

 

this has been researched and grudgingly shown to be correct.

 

whereas does himalyan salt added to water do anything a well balanced diet cannot? 

 

 

How do we you know you're having a "well balanced" diet, how do we get a well balanced diet. maybe adding Himalayan sea salt helps getting that well balanced diet?

[zArk]

32 minutes ago, BMarley said:

How do we you know you're having a "well balanced" diet, how do we get a well balanced diet. maybe adding Himalayan sea salt helps getting that well balanced diet?

 

Salt is a source of sodium but in the form of sodium chloride so you are getting chloride as a BONUS and himalayan salt is an inorganic compound which the body is unable to use

 

Sodium is available in organic form in many many many types of food Olives, Nuts and Seeds.

 

Sodium deficiency is very very rare

 

One point of distilled water is remove toxic and deposited elements that are in the body.

 

Adding salt to distilled water is just ... silly.

[BMarley]

21 minutes ago, zArk said:

 

Salt is a source of sodium but in the form of sodium chloride so you are getting chloride as a BONUS and himalayan salt is an inorganic compound which the body is unable to use

 

Sodium is available in organic form in many many many types of food Olives, Nuts and Seeds.

 

Sodium deficiency is very very rare

 

One point of distilled water is remove toxic and deposited elements that are in the body.

 

Adding salt to distilled water is just ... silly.

I don't believe "himalayan salt is an inorganic compound which the body is unable to use". 

I just had a glass of ice cold mineral water with a teaspoon of Himalayan salt. I enjoyed the taste. My next glass of water I will add some drops of iodine and lemon for more health benefits.

[zArk]

2 hours ago, BMarley said:

I don't believe "himalayan salt is an inorganic compound which the body is unable to use". 

I just had a glass of ice cold mineral water with a teaspoon of Himalayan salt. I enjoyed the taste. My next glass of water I will add some drops of iodine and lemon for more health benefits.

 

 i would entertain being told that the salt structures the water and the homeopathic effect has a bodily effect.

 

 

[BMarley]

34 minutes ago, zArk said:

i would entertain being told that the salt structures the water and the homeopathic effect has a bodily effect.

Sounds cryptic