EVERYTHING SLEEP RELATED

[CONFIRMED_REPTILIAN]

I’ve been exhausted all day since July. It’s debilitating. I may have sleep apnea but I’ve also been panicked and anxious as a result. I imagine i need to fix both. Is there any breathwork you know of that will send you in to a very deep rest? I also can only stay out for 7 hours max and am a very light sleeper. Any ideas?

[Cleo]

You need to have a sleep study conducted in order to establish whether or not you have sleep apnoea. Your GP can refer you for this.  I highly recommend you go down this route,  as untreated apnoea can severely impact your mental and physical health. Fortunately , there is very successful treatment available to sufferers. 

[Truthspoon]

Start Zen meditation.

You don't need a class, a cult or a guru....it's easy.

 

It might take a while to fulful the aims of Zen (about 6 months) but you will notice the benefits immediately regarding sleeping and better mastery of thought and anxiety pretty much immediately.

 

I will tell you more if you are really interested.

 

I only say that because I make lengthy informative posts which most people seem to completely ignore.

So I will only make an effort if people are actually somewhat committed to the forum which a lot of people don't seem to be particularly.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 24, 2021 by Truthspoon

[Bombadil]

Looking into this now as well Truthspoon. I have notoriously bad sleep because of breathing problems.

[spideysensei]

I get the same sometimes. Don't discount some very simple fixes like raising or adding another pillow to your bed.

This in addition to things to meditation, which might not fix your issue but has a whole range of other benefits anyway.

[CONFIRMED_REPTILIAN]

On 10/23/2021 at 5:37 PM, Cleo said:

You need to have a sleep study conducted in order to establish whether or not you have sleep apnoea. Your GP can refer you for this.  I highly recommend you go down this route,  as untreated apnoea can severely impact your mental and physical health. Fortunately , there is very successful treatment available to sufferers. 

Yeah I’m realizing this is really bad. I’m gonna go to the sleep lab in town today or tomorrow and see if they offer sleep tests. I’m 99 percent sure I’ve got apnea but i can’t get a cpap without a prescription. I can’t wait till this is all fixed

[Cleo]

46 minutes ago, CONFIRMED_REPTILIAN said:

Yeah I’m realizing this is really bad. I’m gonna go to the sleep lab in town today or tomorrow and see if they offer sleep tests. I’m 99 percent sure I’ve got apnea but i can’t get a cpap without a prescription. I can’t wait till this is all fixed

Good idea. Wishing you all the best. 

[CrowintheSnow]

I don't know if this will work for you but oddly, it can work for me 99% of the time.

The acupressure points on the wrist. That is, an inch below the wrist-crease on the outside part of the wrist/lower forearm in between two tendons there. I lie in bed, and with the finger of my opposite hand, put a rhythmic pressure on that point, and I am not kidding you, I start to fade out in less than a minute. Drift off....

If by some odd reason it doesn't seem to work, I swap and do the other wrist, then try again.  I have found that to be very effective.

It will work even when I am sceptical about it.

I like a pretty cold bedroom too. If the room/weather is too warm, I will have more disturbed sleep with micro-awakenings through the night. so switch off the heating.

I have NEVER found that "blue light" before bed issue to have any effect at all on my sleep. Maybe I'm weird....

[DarianF]

On 10/18/2021 at 12:07 PM, CONFIRMED_REPTILIAN said:

I’ve been exhausted all day since July. It’s debilitating. I may have sleep apnea but I’ve also been panicked and anxious as a result. I imagine i need to fix both. Is there any breathwork you know of that will send you in to a very deep rest? I also can only stay out for 7 hours max and am a very light sleeper. Any ideas?

 

 

 

 

 

There are thousands of these types of videos; above is just a small random selection. Hope that helps, @CONFIRMED_REPTILIAN. When you find the ones you like, put some headphones on and just lay down in a dark quiet room with these videos on.

[DarianF]

@CONFIRMED_REPTILIAN Try this one too.

 

 

[DarianF]

 

(If you like the sound of rain added)

[Moonlight]

not all sleeping problems are stress related...some people have problems with their pineal gland 

ASMR is a great way to fall asleep fast and BlueWhisper is the best.....until I found out that she has some crazy stalker...but she is still the best 

 

 

[Moonlight]

 

[Mr H]

I know a very good breath facilitator. I suggest having a conversation with her...

 

https://www.elifclarke.com/about-elif/

[shabbirss]

command your mind to do it.
- to start the healing process in your body.

- to get rid of all the crap that is negatively affecting you physically, emotionally, spiritually.

- to give you restful and energising sleep.

 

i recently did this just after getting into bed.
out of the blue. i dont know what or why or how i decided to, i just did it. willed it.

this is what happened... (i did not even think of quitting smoking or anything like that)
 

woke up next morning early, fresh....

first cigarette of the day starts taste like garbage. literally.
i asked my bro if he noticed anything strange about the smoke (usually stale cigarettes smell odd), he says no its all normal.

- lost my appetite for cooldrinks.
- losing my "appetite" for smoking

- feeling more energy, more connected to everything around me. everything.

the adventure continues...

[Pabloisawake]

Build melatoning via AM sunlight. Then block green and blue at night. LIGHT controls our biology.

[Captainlove]

As i said above im having problems with my sleep, I think its down to stress and worry, I do suffer from fight or flight alot. I need some good advise on how to get to sleep again as im getting fatigue and lightheaded,and can't do things that i normally would. Any good advise on how to get back to sleep. Thanks

[peter]

Sorry I can't help but if you find out let me know please

[JackJohnson]

L-theanine with or without GABA. Should be widely available. Another thing is, if you find yourself at the computer late at night, is to install f.lux to ease you into pre-sleep mode.

[scowie]

On 2/15/2022 at 2:04 PM, Captainlove said:

As i said above im having problems with my sleep, I think its down to stress and worry, I do suffer from fight or flight alot. I need some good advise on how to get to sleep again as im getting fatigue and lightheaded,and can't do things that i normally would. Any good advise on how to get back to sleep. Thanks

 

Go to bed when you are tired.  This may sound like I am stating the obvious, but this is exactly what people do not do.  They have a designated time in their heads when they think they should be going to sleep, e.g. midnight.  I reckon this may not be so healthy as any disruption to typical sleep will create a sleep deficit that you need to be paying back at some point which may require adjusting the time you go to bed.

 

The feeling of tiredness is a bit like the feeling of needing a shit.  If you don't act on it the first time the feeling arises the feeling will go away and may not return for quite some time later.  If you try acting when that feeling has gone you will only feel aggravation.  I suspect that there is a good chance that you actual feel somewhat tired not long after your evening meal, say around 8pm.  That is around the time that people put their kids to bed but of course adults tend to have this silly idea that going to bed at that time is not for them, however tired they may feel.

 

Another idea that people have that is not necessarily helpful is the idea that you should be having all your sleep in one go.  There is no reason why you can't split it in two.  You may find that if you go to bed at 8pm, you wake up at around 11pm or midnight.  You can then do whatever it was you would have done if you weren't sleeping like watching those tv shows you recorded during your first sleep session.  You can then have the 2nd half of your sleep at 3am/4am.  People supposedly slept this way before we electrified our world.  Obviously they didn't have tv shows to watch then; they probably read books by candlelight, maybe did some stargazing. I suspect this is an instinctual thing for humans to do.  I suspect our ancient ancestors would make up at midnight and hunt by torchlight before going back to sleep.  I've been doing this myself lately (the two sleep sessions, not the hunting); not every day of the week... routine is over-rated in my opinion.  Just go to bed when you are tired, and get the hell out of bed if you feel wide awake!

Edited March 10, 2022 by scowie

[Mr H]

Some things I learned about better sleep recently.

 

1. No exposure to devices 2 hours prior to bed.

2. Don't eat late, at least 4 hours prior to sleep.

3. Correct temperature - body needs be slightly cooler whilst sleeping

4. No caffine after 12 afternoon

5. This is the most important one. circadian rhythums. - to get this set right, you need to get into light within 30 mins of waking up ideally. This should be real sunlight if possible but otherwise artificial is ok too. This will get the circadian clocks set to the right body time! Edit: also dim the lights in the evening helps too.

[DaleP]

I'd say you are being affected by EMF.

All of the above Mr H said but also unplug everything from the wall, not just switching equipment off.

It made a bit of difference for me as I was developing pain and as soon as I realised what was happening and unplugged ones near the bed, pain went.

If you have an EMF meter, check the level. You can buy one for around £180,

What I found interesting is that my walls were more radioactive than inside of my bedroom. I take it there are metal mesh in the wall which is reacting like an antenna.

I also suspect that our house and next doors are the ones who are kept up so no doubt they are taggering us.

 

Nano GO is everywhere now. In the air, on the ground and it's in us even if you are unvaxxed.

Just survive, best to your ability till your death. It's fucked.

Edited March 29, 2022 by DaleP

[Grumpy Owl]

On 2/15/2022 at 2:04 PM, Captainlove said:

As i said above im having problems with my sleep, I think its down to stress and worry, I do suffer from fight or flight alot. I need some good advise on how to get to sleep again as im getting fatigue and lightheaded,and can't do things that i normally would. Any good advise on how to get back to sleep. Thanks

 

You need to deal with what is causing you the stress and worry.

 

If you can stop yourself from stressing and worrying, then you'll sleep much easier.

[Ethel]

Others have offered some reasonable advice here, but I have a few other insights. I have a feeling you aren't the first person in this forum to make a post about this, either that or I'm having deja vu.

 

If the insomnia lasts for hours, I have found it helpful to accept this, then get up and read for a bit. It is the resistance to the insomnia which is powering it, unfortunately. If you literally "give in" and say, "fuck it, I'm getting up", then go and read a book or something, then you should, after an hour or so of that, be able to go back to bed and sleep, but it has to be real acceptance, not fake.

 

Failing that there is various meditations, but you also need to find a way to get the feelings flowing. Blocked emotions cause insomnia. Write about your feelings in a journal. Feel, cry.

 

As a last resort, and this is for nights when I've had a really terrible nights sleep the night beforehand and none of the above have helped, I will occasionally take a strong anti-histamine called Promethazine, brand name 'Phenergan'. The doctor will probably agree to this. I generally hate the pharmaceutical so would only take this as a last resort, once in a blue moon. Even one tablet will leave you groggy as fuck the next day, especially if you ain't used to it. Don't take two or you'll still be sleeping three days later. 

[Mr H]

59 minutes ago, Ethel said:

 

If the insomnia lasts for hours, I have found it helpful to accept this, then get up and read for a bit. It is the resistance to the insomnia which is powering it, unfortunately. If you literally "give in" and say, "fuck it, I'm getting up", then go and read a book or something, then you should, after an hour or so of that, be able to go back to bed and sleep, but it has to be real acceptance, not fake.

Very interesting and I think spot on. I remember when I used to suffer from anxiety, what I found after some investigation - was that it was my resistance to it that actually perpetuated it. Once I accepted it into my experience it kind of naturally dissipated. What you resist persists!

 

Enjoyed reading your other pointers too..