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2 minutes ago, DarianF said:

 

If Russia and China actually join forces and come as us hard, for real, I think we are genuinely fucked. We are only a shell of our former glory. Weak, degenerate, broken. If the West was what it used to be, we would wipe them off the Earth. But not anymore.

 

Yup. I don't think either side would benefit these days, and the internationalists would probably build their new world from the ashes of what remains. If it was all about boots on the ground then maybe the East would come out victorious, but it's all about air superiority these days, surely? They would probably start flinging missiles at each other.

 

I hope nukes are mainly just doom porn, but it would be silly to forget that the people calling the shots have bunkers. I guess we just have to hope that Russia don't advance any further than they need to, but our leaders will probably still poke Russia and screw us over knowing our luck.

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1 minute ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Yup. I don't think either side would benefit these days, and the internationalists would probably build their new world from the ashes of what remains. If it was all about boots on the ground then maybe the East would come out victorious, but it's all about air superiority these days, surely? They would probably start flinging missiles at each other.

 

I hope nukes are mainly just doom porn, but it would be silly to forget that the people calling the shots have bunkers. I guess we just have to hope that Russia don't advance any further than they need to, but our leaders will probably still poke Russia and screw us over knowing our luck.

 

If it comes to full scale traditional war, our woke, transgender, rainbow flag waving freak show here might be able to throw a few high heeled shoes at Vlad a Xi, but that's about it. Can we even run a proper military draft these days if we really had to? A bunch of soy boy feminists? Not sure that would work too well.

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Just now, DarianF said:

 

If it comes to full scale traditional war, our woke, transgender, rainbow flag waving freak show here might be able to throw a few high heeled shoes at Vlad a Xi, but that's about it. Can we even run a proper military draft these days if we really had to? A bunch of soy boy feminists? Not sure that would work too well.

 

They're probably just cannon fodder, I just hope we have some high IQ people in control of the big boy toys, but probably not. lol

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3 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

They're probably just cannon fodder, I just hope we have some high IQ people in control of the big boy toys, but probably not. lol

 

I'm not sure how many of these the Russians have, but I wouldn't want to be in any opposing air force having to stare them down in combat.

 

 

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3 hours ago, truepositive said:

While all the world's a stage, the play amuses me no more. Including the roman style games i used to participate in 12 hours a day. I'm not against theoretical politics or democracy but it never ends well thus far because 60% of the human race has been made incapable of original thought and any analyses worth the word. The outsourcing of thought is a yoke upon us all, and it is transforming into an outsourcing of life at large. My comments to surface tomorrow, but this blogger is someone i respect highly as a Christian that rejected the propaganda and wrote eloquently about the nonsense since day one almost; https://www.francisberger.com/blog/most-modern-people-are-committed-to-co-destruction - I am firmly agnostic but found a kindred soul with wisdom here. This post of his connected us through a 'random' search engine thread - https://www.francisberger.com/blog/despiritualization-is-dehumanization - and now i have a loose affiliation with him and all 'renegade' christians. Ukraine is about former Khazaria as much as it is about geopolitical aims, it is also about fulfilling the prophecy of some ephemeral creature some see as their god, but is merely a minor god within a pantheon of imposters. The cosmic hierarchy is filled with characters like this leading us astray, all fighting for domination of the material and astral, none representing the real.

"People who reject their identities as spiritual beings risk losing the very essence that makes them truly human."

 

In my experience, all becomes a meaningless chasing after the wind. I existed in that place for many years, yet only had myself to blame.

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It's a cheapfake! Experts laugh off Kremlin misinformation attempt as amateurish 'deepfake' video of Zelensky 'surrendering' is posted by hackers – and spotted almost immediately

  • The edited clip appears to show Zelensky calling on troops to lay down arms 
  • It is circulating on Russian social media and was aired on Ukraine TV by hackers 
  • Experts say it shows the next stage of the Kremlin's disinformation campaign 

Was this vid clip on the daily fail posted by themselves?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10625935/Experts-laugh-Kremlins-amateurish-deepfake-video-Zelensky-surrendering.html

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, alexa said:

It's a cheapfake! Experts laugh off Kremlin misinformation attempt as amateurish 'deepfake' video of Zelensky 'surrendering' is posted by hackers – and spotted almost immediately

  • The edited clip appears to show Zelensky calling on troops to lay down arms 
  • It is circulating on Russian social media and was aired on Ukraine TV by hackers 
  • Experts say it shows the next stage of the Kremlin's disinformation campaign 

Was this vid clip on the daily fail posted by themselves?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10625935/Experts-laugh-Kremlins-amateurish-deepfake-video-Zelensky-surrendering.html

 

 

 

 

It's pretty alarming stuff, especially when countries start cutting themselves off from each other by going dark. It gets harder to confirm the truth with people on the other side.

 

There is AI to detect deepfakes, but it's probably a cat and mouse game as both technologies keep improving.

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2009:

'According to material from the Soviet archives, Kirill was a KGB agent (as was Alexei). This means he was more than just an informer, of whom there were millions in the Soviet Union. He was an active officer of the organization. Neither Kirill nor Alexei ever acknowledged or apologized for their ties with the security agencies.'

https://www.forbes.com/2009/02/20/putin-solzhenitsyn-kirill-russia-opinions-contributors_orthodox_church.html

 

 

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Just listening to the UK Columns wednesday programme and it sounds like their take is that if zelensky were to agree neutrality for ukraine, which they say is actually part of the ukrainian constitution, then the neo-nazi nationalists would assassinate him

 

Why would nazis tolerate a jewish leader for their ethno state in the first place? Isn't that a bit strange?

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9 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

Why would nazis tolerate a jewish leader for their ethno state in the first place? Isn't that a bit strange?

 

The top guys in the ranks of these groups and battalions are probably some kind of agent provocateurs, there are probably others that are just reactionary and will embrace what ever Russia hates, but yes, it seems odd for legit Neo-Nazis to be okay with the setup.

 

Even moderate Nationalists think the whole situation glows.

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5 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

The top guys in the ranks of these groups and battalions are probably some kind of agent provocateurs, there are probably others that are just reactionary and will embrace what ever Russia hates, but yes, it seems odd for legit Neo-Nazis to be okay with the setup.

 

Even moderate Nationalists think the whole situation glows.

 

why would they want to be a part of nato?

 

why poke the russian bear by shelling eastern russian speaking ukrainians until russia kicks back? If you love your country why would you invite that kind of destruction upon it?

 

If they want an ethno-state wouldn't they be better just ceding donbass to the russians and consolidating what's left of ukraine?

 

do they really believe that out of this conflict with russia something beautiful will emerge and if that is their true belief then why would they want to work with the western powers that are so enthral to the central banking dynasties?

 

It just doesn't add up

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7 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

why would they want to be a part of nato?

 

why poke the russian bear by shelling eastern russian speaking ukrainians until russia kicks back? If you love your country why would you invite that kind of destruction upon it?

 

If they want an ethno-state wouldn't they be better just ceding donbass to the russians and consolidating what's left of ukraine?

 

do they really believe that out of this conflict with russia something beautiful will emerge and if that is their true belief then why would they want to work with the western powers that are so enthral to the central banking dynasties?

 

It just doesn't add up

 

I think it's just the elites playground mate. There's so many shenanigans going on there, I think it's all supposed to backfire. The Western powers that have meddled with that country, they don't seem to like Europeans very much.

 

I just feel sorry for normal Ukrainian people that aren't involved in any extremists groups, and also Russians that will struggle financially, as well as us Westerners.

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3 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

I think it's just the elites playground mate. There's so many shenanigans going on there, I think it's all supposed to backfire. The Western powers that have meddled with that country, they don't seem to like Europeans very much.

 

that uk column programme has shown a photo of bernhard henri levy a sephardic jew who has been a major force in shaping french foreign policy for decades walking in odessa with far right military figures:

 

Bernard-Henri-Levy-in-Odessa.jpg

3 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

I just feel sorry for normal Ukrainian people that aren't involved in any extremists groups, and also Russians that will struggle financially, as well as us Westerners.

 

agreed

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1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

3 weeks ago......

 

Russia: we're invading Ukraine to conduct a military operation. We intend denazification of this region.

 

US: oh my god, muh Russia has just invaded Ukraine, you Nazi commie bastard's, we'll get you for this. How dare you wreck these innocent people's lives.....

 

Couple of days later.......

 

Russia: Still getting rid of those Nazi's

 

US: oh, you mean Azov Battalion, oh they're good guys really, no really, forget the swastikas, they're just for giggles, not to be taken seriously....

 

Couple more days later......

 

US: ok there's fuckin Nazi's, but by god we're going to sanction the shit out of you and make you muh Nazi Russian's pay for this!

 

2 weeks ago.....

 

Russia: US has bioweapon labs on our borders.

 

US: nah, nah, no we don't, muh Russian misinformation. No we didn't remove all this information from our website, it was an update, you must be mistaken. 

 

1 week later

 

Russia: we have evidence that US has bioweapon labs and created/testing coronaviruses. 

 

US: ok, we have some labs, but they're for research purposes only, we're not creating any weapons against the Russians, don't be silly. 

 

As of today......

 

Russia: we call a security council meeting to discuss the evidence we have uncovered regarding US involvement in bioweapon research, Burisma fraud, hunters laptop, the big guys 10% cut and.....

 

US: Come on man! Ok, I've got nothing..... Red handed. 

 

This about the size of it thus far. 

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