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2 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

I don't think it's that black and white. Westerners have it bad, but Russians suffer in other ways. He is still turning the place into a surveillance state.

 

Supposedly up to 15 years for criticizing some government actions, ID requirements to buy SIM cards, facial recognition bollocks on public transport, hate speech laws, mafia level corruption everywhere, diversity, slavic population on the decline, sex trafficking everywhere, third world level crime.

 

None of that crap sounds based, they're just more tolerable than our leaders.

I don't know about any of those things. If you had included the context with which I said this, it was in relation to their economy which I do understand.

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2 hours ago, XelNaga said:

Hi EW,

 

What makes you think that Russia is your enemy?

 

If you are from US/UK/EU, your biggest and only true enemy is your government.

 

The shit we went through in Australia the last couple of years, with riot squad thugs beating the shit out of freedom protestors, with full support of government, arresting pregnant women for their facebook posts, etc, Russia seemed a hell of a lot better alternative. I actually looked into going to Russia during the lockdowns, but my own 'democratic' 'liberal' 'western' government left me locked inside a police state prison.

 

But sure. Russia is the enemy. 😆 Doesn't feel like it.

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41 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

I was looking at some of my older posts where I was concerned about them starting a war if not enough people comply with the Covid agenda. I feel like I jinxed myself, but maybe this would all happen regardless.

Yeah sorry to break it to you EW, but I'd definitely agree that was happening whether you were worried about it or not. You're no sage just yet. 🤣

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5 minutes ago, DarianF said:

 

The shit we went through in Australia the last couple of years, with riot squad thugs beating the shit out of freedom protestors, with full support of government, arresting pregnant women for their facebook posts, etc, Russia seemed a hell of a lot better alternative. I actually looked into going to Russia during the lockdowns, but my own 'democratic' 'liberal' 'western' government left me locked inside a police state prison.

 

But sure. Russia is the enemy. 😆 Doesn't feel like it.

 

What if it has been designed to be the "better alternative"? This argument that just because they're not cucked (even though that's not totally true, hence why I often hear Russian anons moaning about their quality of life too), it doesn't mean that they have our backs. It's thinking like that that is why Westerners keep getting duped by people that don't have our best interests. People can tell you 99% of what you want to hear, but worry about the 1% that they're keeping from you.

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9 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

Yeah sorry to break it to you EW, but I'd definitely agree that was happening whether you were worried about it or not. You're no sage just yet. 🤣

 

Nah bro, some people acted like we're just in an info war these days, but there is still real danger of wars going hot. Not saying you're that naive though.

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1 hour ago, Steve341 said:

Bloody hell, never knew this, horrendous 

Yes it breaks my heart.

Literally 10s of MILLIONS of Russians/Ukrainians/Baltics/Poles (Slavic's) - aside from the Holodomors, aside from the work camps/gulags, aside from mass executions by a bullet in the back of the head (lucky ones) - were tortured and slaughtered in such unimaginable ways; suffering such pain and terror it's incomprehensible.

 

Alekzander Solzhenitsyn who lived through 11 years in a death camp estimated between the Revolution/overthrow of the Tzar in 1917 and Stalin's death in 1953 (was poisoned by his Jewish dr) - roughly 35 years - 66 million people were genocided, but the numbers are probably higher. Then they lost at least 24 million during WW2, so could be up to (90) ~ 100 million+ the people of Russia and Ukraine lost in ~35 years.

THEN after the War and de-Stalinization, they, and even more of our brothers and sisters in Eastern and Central Europe -  thanks to the "victorious righteous" allies -  had to suffer behind the Iron Curtain under Communism for another ~40 years. But at least we beat that nasty Austrian painter with the funny moustache! We sure showed those Germans who was boss.

And they (Ru/Ukr) still live in a brutish hell.

 

This history is vital to understanding the tragedy befalling all the people; both Russians and Ukrainians living through this ongoing 'conflict' today.

 

And I mean no bad words against the every day Jewish person, at all. But the historical, verifiable facts are that the leading Satanic Bolsheviks; Trotsky, Lenin, Lazar Kaganovich, the majority of the gulag Commissars, the leading men of the Cheka, (which became the KGB) were atheistic Jews who passionately HATED Russians and their culture. One of the very first laws passed once they took full control was making any form of anti-Semitism a capital offense - lined up against a wall and shot, if they were lucky.  They made no secret of it at the time. And now they control nearly ALL of Russia's & Ukr's wealth - while the people have next to nothing and are still being made to slaughter each others brothers and fathers - while they slip off on private jets to Israel.

 

The victors write the histories, as they say - is it any wonder all of this is glossed over and downplayed completely in history class, and in wikipedia articles.

 

"Beyond normal comprehension is why Bolsheviks in a carefully structured way inflicted upon their victims the most hideous and quite unnecessary cruelties before allowing those martyred to leave their world as tormented souls."

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1 minute ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

What if it has been designed to be the "better alternative"? This argument that just because they're not cucked (even though that's not totally true, hence why I often hear Russian anons moaning about their quality of life too), it doesn't mean that they have our backs. It's thinking like that that is why Westerners keep getting duped by people that don't have our best interests. People can tell you 99% of what you want to hear, but worry about the 1% that they're keeping from you.

 

Well I guess that's a point. If you were coming to visit me in Australia, I wouldn't tell you that I've had four close calls with deadly brown snakes already this year. Wouldn't want to freak you out 😆

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4 hours ago, DarianF said:

 

Imagine the shock. World leaders and power players occasionally meet with each other and exchange a common human courtesy of hand shaking.

Then drinking champagne and fuck hot chicks... Or eating pizzas... 🤔

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10 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Nah bro, some people acted like we're just in an info war these days, but there is still real danger of wars going hot. Not saying you're that naive though.

Oh totally, I just think we are actually in that info war you refer to. Obviously shit has kicked off, but this is not what was advertised, far from it. I'm still waiting for mad Max, not that I want that of course. 

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3 hours ago, Mr H said:

and if you check out their debt:GDP it is 14% almost 10 times lower than the US!, and they made a smooth transition to capitalism. Looks like they are now trying to make some moves to get off the petro dollar system.

stumped up by China, who makes western consumer products

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10 minutes ago, DarianF said:

 

Well I guess that's a point. If you were coming to visit me in Australia, I wouldn't tell you that I've had four close calls with deadly brown snakes already this year. Wouldn't want to freak you out 😆

I'd love to go to Aus, for the diving and shark experience. But what bothers me is that everything there wants to eat you in one way or another. Land, air or sea, so I might swerve it for now. 🤣

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1 minute ago, Morpheus said:

I'd love to go to Aus, for the diving and shark experience. But what bothers me is that everything there wants to eat you in one way or another. Land, air or sea, so I might swerve it for now. 🤣

 

Nothing more dangerous than our politicians, bureaucrats and Police. At least nature's threats you can mostly avoid. These other cunts, no chance.

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In my opinion neither Yeltsin nor Putin really reined in the economic rape of a Nation,

by disproportionatley Jewish Russians and their cronies overseas.

 

The deceased Jewish Marc Rich (now Glencore, the second largest commodity trader in the world, most people have never heard of!) is just one example of many overseas, but there were even more domestic Jewish Russians stealing the assets instead of normal Russian people benefitting

HOW MARC HELPED PLUNDER RUSSIA

https://nypost.com/2001/02/15/how-marc-helped-plunder-russia/

 

Marc Rich with Peres

 

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These are the Wiki entries for Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs, for some basic information.

 

The billionaires are predominately Jewish.  That's a fact.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_oligarchs

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_oligarch

 

 

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3 hours ago, skitzorat said:

This kind of stuff has been done deliberately - Yuri was warning about the Marxist, Soviet, Communist subversion in the 80s; how only maybe 10% max of espionage was spent on "James Bond" stuff, 90% of their resources was geared to subversion.

 

There's a whole conspiracy that stipulates the "fall" of Communism was all staged and done to make the West lower it's guard.

 

“The Perestroika deception is Soviet Russia’s faking of its own death in the 1990s as a way of lulling the West to sleep over the communist threat, thus advancing its world communist agenda unhindered.” Timothy Fitzpatrick

https://fitzinfo.net/perestroika-deception/

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It's starting to play out before our very eyes.

 

But then there's another that says NATO wants to destroy Russia to plunder Her wealth.

There's another that says Putin's a dissenter (from the NWO WEF)

 

 

I think he is a part or got into their trap... Because he's not stupid I think first option is more likely. After 'war', next pandemic, famine we will be so tired we will accept all new rules... 🙄 My mother told me they don't want us to remember the past... How it looked like. I wonder if they can erase with some vaccines memories of the past... 

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2 minutes ago, Human10 said:

My mother told me they don't want us to remember the past...

 

She is right. I can't speak for you folks in Poland, but it seems to be the case here in Western Europe. Merkel even said that those that remember WW2 are nearly gone, and she was saying it like she was happy.

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22 minutes ago, DarianF said:

 

Nothing more dangerous than our politicians, bureaucrats and Police. At least nature's threats you can mostly avoid. These other cunts, no chance.

The totalitarianism was a shock to see, but then a little digging reveals you're becoming a vessel state for the Commy Satanists. It will be interesting if China dives into Taiwan (which I believe they will), I wonder if Aus will respond to that? I have a suspicion you might to really fuck with peoples heads. Maybe the influx of UN troops was actually a build up against China? A profound and provocative question. 

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7 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

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Was always going to happen.

 

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Reminds me of this: Marine Le Pen being interviewed about her Russian finance by that blonde BBC witch Emily Maitlis who did the Randy Andy interview.

She was incredibly rude, as usual, and Le Pen, naturally, retorted in her usual frank yet firm style, that she had no choice  because the French banks had cut her off and "so what?!." 

 

First 2mins

 

This is a rhetorical question; but why shouldn't Russians feel OK/warm towards Trump and Le Pen? - they've been the only Western leaders who have gone out of their way to be at the very least cordial towards the Russkies.

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3 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

This is a rhetorical question; but why shouldn't Russians feel OK/warm towards Trump and Le Pen? - they've been the only Western leaders who have gone out of their way to be at the very least cordial towards the Russkies.

 

I didn't say they shouldn't mate. This had to happen under the Biden admin so the West look like clowns. As much as I know that Trump is comped, this wouldn't have happened under him, but I don't think it was supposed to happen under him.

 

My concern is whether Western Europeans should follow these people.

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