Ziggy Sawdust Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 hours ago, Macnamara said: Because everything the corporate media does is EMOTIVE They play on peoples emotions whether it is FEAR or tugging on peoples heartstrings and this shuts down the part of the brain responsible for critical thinking Many of the people on this forum are people who have learned to take a pause and to step back from situations in order to then look again from a wider perspective The masses on the other hand allow themselves to be swept along by the hysteria whether it is covid scamdemic or anti-russian witchhunt It would be better if they took a breath and then asked themself 'why are the media / politicians trying to get me emotionally worked up about this thing? What is their interest in that?' Out of likes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 hours ago, oddsnsods said: More ministry of truth. Yet that photo was all over the newspaper yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) If there ever be an air raid.... make sure you know how to make your neighbourhood invisible. I tell you, I've discovered recently that Tibetans holds special DNA....I'd say alien. That's why they know how to make your body like luminous rainbow or become substance-less and fly. If you've got a pyramid orgonite, programme it. If you don't have orgonite, make a pyramid with paper....that will do if you don't have anything else. There are many ways. Anyway, best thing you can do for Russians and Ukranians is to send them strength to get through this. You don't need to get outraged which will do nothing. And remember, Putin is just a puppet so no point in having a go at him. He is acting like a strong leader but it's all based on the script. Really we should go for the scriptwriters....which are the families which I mentioned. Edited March 11 by DaleP 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCP Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 7 hours ago, Mitochondrial Eve said: Hugo uploaded this video a few days back - embedded below from YouTube for easier viewing. On his Telegram channel, Hugo also posted this. However, the link above was posted on 19th December 2021 before the conflict started suggesting that the ePidtrymka payments, obtained via the Diya portal, are not connected to the conflict. The payments were incentives to get people vaccinated due to the low take up levels in Ukraine. Here is another link which explains more about the payments on offer. https://www.kmu.gov.ua/en/news/vidsogodni-za-programoyu-yepidtrimka-ukrayinci-zmozhut-oplatiti-komunalni-poslugi The ePidtrymka payments therefore don't seem to relate to the wartime economy payouts. Ukrainian viewers have also now confirmed that it was a manipulated translation - you can find examples in the comments section of the YouTube video or in the Telegram comments. They have confirmed that, whilst to obtain the wartime economy payments use of the Diya payment system is required, there is no requirement for the recipients to be vaccinated. However, granted, it is likely another incremental step towards digital IDs. Hugo offered this link for more info: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1501188008392994816.html On Mar 6th, #Ukraine PM Denys Shmyhal said that state support amounting to 6,500 UAH would be available to: "every employee, every self-employed person whose job was taken away as a result of the war" under their ePidtrymka program. (contd.) Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine - Address by the Prime Minister of Ukraine Denys Shmyhal Heroic people of Ukraine! It is the 11th day of war https://www.kmu.gov.ua/en/news/zvernennya9-premyer-ministra-denisa-shmigalya Shmyhal also said, "The program will function by analogy with vaccination payments - that is, through the Diia application". On Mar 8th, Digital Minister @FedorovMykhailo announced that support can be received "within the framework of ePidtrymka" kmu.gov.ua/en/news/mihajl… Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine - Mykhailo Fedorov: Ukrainians can obtain a UAH 6,500 assistance within the framework of ePidtrymka starting today A UAH 6,500 assistance can be received by Ukrainians within the framework of ePidtrymka as of today https://www.kmu.gov.ua/en/news/mihajlo-fedorov-6500-grn-mozhut-otrimati-ukrayinci-v-mezhah-yepidtrimki-uzhe-vidsogodni What is the 'ePidtrymka'? It's a service portal in line with the 'Action' or 'Diia' {Govt) app, for Ukrainian citizens aged 14+ to receive a 1000 UAH incentive once they're fully vaccinated, have a 'green certificate' & a special bank card. e-aid.diia.gov.ua/#about єПідтримка – як отримати та де витратити 1000 гривень Державна програма для допомоги бізнесам та громадянам https://e-aid.diia.gov.ua/#about The financial assistance isn't open to all citizens & is mainly targeted at those sectors most affected by hostilities. Fedorov exclaimed, "it should be noted that one can apply even if he/she has already received vaccination assistance." And those unvaccinated? Nothing. While Fedorov has removed restrictions on what businesses citizens can spend their money at, unless it's updated next week as a service open for *all citizens*, this support scheme is undoubtedly linked to one's #COVID19 vaccination status or lack thereof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatthefoxhat Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Another oldie but a good one for some recent historical perspective on Ukraine and its struggle for independence Winter on Fire (90 mins) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 6 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Volodymyr Zelensky Voldemort Zelensky close enough for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack121 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 America's move over the whole invasion of Ukraine BS will also stop all gas imports, and ofcourse cause massive price rises to the consumer, and over here BJ is going to phase out Russian oil imports by the end of the year , BJ said, trying to keep a straight face, and with the masonic hand firmly shoved up this puppet arse: Either Russia will respect international law and will not wage wars, or it will not have the money to start wars. all parties in the war to sit down at the negotiating table and have talks in the interests of the people, not obsolete murderous ambitions. - The sanctions against Russia have pushed oil prices pushed above $133 a barrel, which means more pain ahead in the coming months for people, not the elites who are going to make a killing. BJ's plan will give firms and supply chains nine months to switch to buying oil stocks from BJ's approved pals in the US and Middle East . The Kremlin has warned of consequences and oil prices could hit $300 a barrel, which BJ and his billionaire friends don't seem to be bothered about. RAC has warned petrol prices could rise to £1.65 a litre BJ suggested diesel prices could rise even further with prices at the pumps already having soared. Local Government Secretary Robert Jenrick: “This is going to be the hardest and most difficult economic year we’ve ever seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mitochondrial Eve Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 hours ago, JCP said: Hugo offered this link for more info: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1501188008392994816.html On Mar 6th, #Ukraine PM Denys Shmyhal said that state support amounting to 6,500 UAH would be available to: "every employee, every self-employed person whose job was taken away as a result of the war" under their ePidtrymka program. (contd.) Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine - Address by the Prime Minister of Ukraine Denys Shmyhal Heroic people of Ukraine! It is the 11th day of war https://www.kmu.gov.ua/en/news/zvernennya9-premyer-ministra-denisa-shmigalya Shmyhal also said, "The program will function by analogy with vaccination payments - that is, through the Diia application". On Mar 8th, Digital Minister @FedorovMykhailo announced that support can be received "within the framework of ePidtrymka" kmu.gov.ua/en/news/mihajl… Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine - Mykhailo Fedorov: Ukrainians can obtain a UAH 6,500 assistance within the framework of ePidtrymka starting today A UAH 6,500 assistance can be received by Ukrainians within the framework of ePidtrymka as of today https://www.kmu.gov.ua/en/news/mihajlo-fedorov-6500-grn-mozhut-otrimati-ukrayinci-v-mezhah-yepidtrimki-uzhe-vidsogodni What is the 'ePidtrymka'? It's a service portal in line with the 'Action' or 'Diia' {Govt) app, for Ukrainian citizens aged 14+ to receive a 1000 UAH incentive once they're fully vaccinated, have a 'green certificate' & a special bank card. e-aid.diia.gov.ua/#about єПідтримка – як отримати та де витратити 1000 гривень Державна програма для допомоги бізнесам та громадянам https://e-aid.diia.gov.ua/#about The financial assistance isn't open to all citizens & is mainly targeted at those sectors most affected by hostilities. Fedorov exclaimed, "it should be noted that one can apply even if he/she has already received vaccination assistance." And those unvaccinated? Nothing. While Fedorov has removed restrictions on what businesses citizens can spend their money at, unless it's updated next week as a service open for *all citizens*, this support scheme is undoubtedly linked to one's #COVID19 vaccination status or lack thereof. I think Hugo and Stop Common Pass have misunderstood the requirements for the wartime economy payments UAH 6,500. Although they are to be received "within the framework of" the Diya app / ePidtrymka payments, there doesn't appear to be a requirement for the recipient to be vaccinated. You quote the criteria for the UAH 1,000 payments rather than the criteria for the UAH 6,500 payments which I have linked to and quoted below. https://www.kmu.gov.ua/en/news/mihajlo-fedorov-6500-grn-mozhut-otrimati-ukrayinci-v-mezhah-yepidtrimki-uzhe-vidsogodni Quote A UAH 6,500 assistance can be received by Ukrainians within the framework of ePidtrymka as of today. It is in those areas affected by hostilities the most. Payment can be spent on an purpose. Restrictions on certain types of business have been removed from the program. Who can get help? Employees for whom USC is paid and individual entrepreneurs of all groups. The payment is aimed at supporting the population in those areas where the most active hostilities are taking place. It will also allow to support individual entrepreneurs who cannot provide for themselves due to the start of the war. Quote It should be noted that one can apply even if he or she have already received vaccination assistance. Nowhere under "who can get help" does it state that applicants need to be vaccinated to meet the criteria for the UAH 6500. Also, Ukrainians have confirmed on YouTube and Telegram that the translation of Mykhailo Fedorov's announcement was not accurate. One YouTube commenter, H Zay, says that he has confirmed the position regarding the £160 wartime economy payment with his parents in Kyiv. Quote @Hugo Talks Some More I'm quite concerned as my parents are in Kyiv. They've confirmed over the phone that no vax required to register for that digital id app Diya and for mentioned payment as well as for joining theTerritorial defence, just passport and tax id. Via Diya app people, who doblejubbed received a payment around £30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 So this is guy is some rando; Golanzo Lira is a Chilean Roman Catholic living in Ukraine. He says Jewish billionaires PURPOSELY started this war to destroy Russia and unseat Putin. "This is what its all about--and still STEAL Crimea for Kolomoyskyi. Soros, Bloomberg, Kolomoyskyi***, Tom Steyer, Zuckerberg--THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER--It is the Jewish mafia but on the World Stage" Writer Gonzalo Lira, who goes by Coach Red Pill, says that while Ukraine may be winning the propaganda war, Russia is winning the actual war. http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62927 Anyways, he's been saying some really interesting stuff: timestamped. Making some interesting points, not only about the viciousness of the regime goons, but how the Russians learnt a trick in Syria opening up these "humanitarian corridors" where they guarantee, and were true to their word, that anyone can pass through unchecked so allows for mass desertion of the army - young men slinking away in civilian clothes rather that dying at the hands of the Russian forces for what they must know is a hopeless cause... To me that sounds legit as it would only leave the true vicious ideologs, the real hard of the hard ethno-nationalists or "neo-nazis" - the thugs responsible for the true atrocities being perpetrated in Ukraine at the highest levels against not just the Russian-speakers, but anyone critical of the regime - journalists, politicians etc...the modern-day "Banderites" *** We all know that Zelensky is Jewish. Right? Did you know that 3/4 of his cabinet is Jewish? Did you know that he has a Jewish Handler? Golanzo outs the rise of Zelensky and the guy who shepherded him into politics and still guides him today. Have you heard of Ihor Valeriyovych Kolomoyskyi? He is a prominent member of Chabad. According to Golanzo, this guy is a very very very bad man; he used mafia tactics to rise to the top and he is one of the many billionaires of Ukraine. He started his own media Empire (aka Rudolf Murdoch of Fox News). He then created a show about a teacher becoming president of Ukraine. He chose Zelensky and then used his money to promote the show. Golanzo states that Zelensky is a puppet of Kolomoyskyi. Kolomoyskyi HATES RUSSIANS. He has business dealings in the Donbass where there are huge mineral and metal companies. Golanzo says Kolomoyskyi has BOTH religious and racial animosity towards the Russians and seeks to destroy them. It is Kolomoyskyi that set up the Azov brigade and the other neo-Nazi units in the Donbass area. Golanzo has a tremendous knowledge about the history and goings on in Ukraine. Kolomoyskyi is responsible for this: THE JEWISH MONSTERS WHO RUN UKRAINE https://www.bitchute.com/video/CR1ETJpu30rd/ The comments he makes about the corridors makes sense too, as RU forces have surrounded the army - that was *already* massed in the east, curiously, https://readovka.news/news/90472 - which backs up claims Ru had intelligence they were going to launch a full on attack on The Donbass - which they'd already been shelling in weeks prior to soften up the ground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Spread hate not love. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-60702619 War in Ukraine: Facebook to allow calls for violence against Putin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Of course they do - they want Europeans dead - by hook or by crook...by bullet or by needle. Europe is Forcing Ukrainian Refugees to Be Vaccinated According to a speech made by Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi on March 9th, Ukrainian refugees arriving in Italy will be forced to “either agree to have a swab every 48 hours or agree to be vaccinated“ against the coronavirus. A transcript of the speech has been published by the Italian daily Il Tempo. Some Italians have complained that Italian citizens have not been given the swab option, saying that the country’s citizens either get vaccinated or are suspended from work without a salary. Only 35% of the Ukrainian population are vaccinated against COVID-19. Scepticism towards the vaccines is high in Ukraine and in August 2021, 56% of the population said they would not get vaccinated against the disease. Being forced to leave your war-torn homeland is bad enough. Being forced or pushed to accept a useless medication you do not trust when you finally arrive at your destination could hardly be described as kind hospitality, or free consent. https://dailysceptic.org/2022/03/10/europe-forcing-ukrainian-refugees-to-be-vaccinated/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 15 minutes ago, Mr H said: Spread hate not love. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-60702619 War in Ukraine: Facebook to allow calls for violence against Putin ‘Hate Laws’ can be suspended when the designated target is government approved, in his instance, “Russians” and probably in future, “Chinese” but certain specific groups whose actions warrant a hateful response and sanctions, like illegal Israeli settlers, who commit crimes against Palestinian civilians under the protection of the IDF, cannot be criticised, because that would be “racist.” So, I expect the empty threat of ‘Death to Netanyahu’ will be censored by his co-religionists who own the Metaverse, while calling for the actual assassination of President Putin is perfectly Kosher. Does anyone else get the impression that Zionist Jews are calling the shots, or is that only ‘Anti-Semites?’ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 hahahahahahahahahahahaha 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truepositive Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Of course this circus is designed to steer attention away from the sting injuries amongst other things, but it is also a test run and data gathering operation to see how effective the mass formation psychosis has been thus far. The speed at which the normies flipped the switch on their flavor of virtue signalling is telling but perhaps not surprising. Apparently the bell curves have always looked like this; 5-10% of humanity really sees the scam, and acts on it too, 20-30% is on the fence but avoiding conflict, and 50-60% is perpetually in denial/ self conservation mode/ not interested in life beyond the mechanical aspects of it all. I have come to the conclusion coof changed nothing, just made these demarcations clearer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebornsteve Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Today, 11th of March, at 10.00am EST, UN Security Council meeting, called by Russia: Threats to international peace and security - Security Council, 8991st meeting.... https://media.un.org/en/asset/k16/k16nsx50dm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velma Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 After the hashtag ‘deathtoputin’ goes viral on social media, with Zuckerburg’s blessing, his assassination will appear to have resounding public consent. Then, when his body-double is supposedly murdered by Mossad agents, it will be celebrated as a triumph in the media and set a precedent for the future extra-judicial killing of elected officials, in any country, opposed to the NWO agenda. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 59 minutes ago, skitzorat said: Of course they do - they want Europeans dead - by hook or by crook...by bullet or by needle. Europe is Forcing Ukrainian Refugees to Be Vaccinated According to a speech made by Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi on March 9th, Ukrainian refugees arriving in Italy will be forced to “either agree to have a swab every 48 hours or agree to be vaccinated“ against the coronavirus. A transcript of the speech has been published by the Italian daily Il Tempo. Some Italians have complained that Italian citizens have not been given the swab option, saying that the country’s citizens either get vaccinated or are suspended from work without a salary. Only 35% of the Ukrainian population are vaccinated against COVID-19. Scepticism towards the vaccines is high in Ukraine and in August 2021, 56% of the population said they would not get vaccinated against the disease. Being forced to leave your war-torn homeland is bad enough. Being forced or pushed to accept a useless medication you do not trust when you finally arrive at your destination could hardly be described as kind hospitality, or free consent. https://dailysceptic.org/2022/03/10/europe-forcing-ukrainian-refugees-to-be-vaccinated/ So the poor jab uptake by rightly suspicious Ukranians will also be "solved" by scaring them into fleeing their homeland and moving across into other countries. How....convenient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 id set a tent up in maiden square. seems like a safe place. nothing ever happens on cam there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Alert Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, skitzorat said: Of course they do - they want Europeans dead - by hook or by crook...by bullet or by needle. Europe is Forcing Ukrainian Refugees to Be Vaccinated According to a speech made by Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi on March 9th, Ukrainian refugees arriving in Italy will be forced to “either agree to have a swab every 48 hours or agree to be vaccinated“ against the coronavirus. A transcript of the speech has been published by the Italian daily Il Tempo. Some Italians have complained that Italian citizens have not been given the swab option, saying that the country’s citizens either get vaccinated or are suspended from work without a salary. Only 35% of the Ukrainian population are vaccinated against COVID-19. Scepticism towards the vaccines is high in Ukraine and in August 2021, 56% of the population said they would not get vaccinated against the disease. Being forced to leave your war-torn homeland is bad enough. Being forced or pushed to accept a useless medication you do not trust when you finally arrive at your destination could hardly be described as kind hospitality, or free consent. https://dailysceptic.org/2022/03/10/europe-forcing-ukrainian-refugees-to-be-vaccinated/ 58 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said: So the poor jab uptake by rightly suspicious Ukranians will also be "solved" by scaring them into fleeing their homeland and moving across into other countries. How....convenient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truepositive Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Family wants to have a little piss on the state of my dad and myself after being in hypnosis for 2 years and not giving a fuck. I have to equate this shit to the 'Journey to Ixtlan' from Carlos where random passers by equate to ephemeral ghosts. They have 0 conversations or feedback and then want to bump in, concerned about mental states too probably. The other time of concern is during christmas. Being clawed at by non-people that you unfortunately got assigned as being family. Yikes. Im supposed to be ok with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatthefoxhat Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 19 minutes ago, truepositive said: Family wants to have a little piss on the state of my dad and myself after being in hypnosis for 2 years and not giving a fuck. I have to equate this shit to the 'Journey to Ixtlan' from Carlos where random passers by equate to ephemeral ghosts. They have 0 conversations or feedback and then want to bump in, concerned about mental states too probably. The other time of concern is during christmas. Being clawed at by non-people that you unfortunately got assigned as being family. Yikes. Im supposed to be ok with that? Glad to meet someone who knows of 'The Journey to ixtlan'...what the fuck its got to do with Ukraine i don't know but its hell of a book ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatthefoxhat Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Next you'll be tlling me you see Don Gianaro running round the walls...come on...get a grip ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Alert Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) A news report of a "missile drone" flying for 350 miles from the Ukraine, possibly Russian, yet Ukraine use the drones (or possibly it came from Belarus) through Hungarian/EU/NATO airspace, unchallenged, and crashes in Croatia an EU/Nato country, in the capital, Zagreb. ??? Mysterious Drone That Crashed In Croatia May Have Got Lost Over Ukraine: Report By Meera Suresh 03/11/22 AT 1:56 AM KEY POINTS Images of the wreckage showed aircraft parts inside a huge crater in Zagreb The drone may have crossed Hungary before crashing in Croatia There is also a possibility that Russia used the drone as a crude decoy An "unidentified flying object" that crashed in the Croatian capital Zagreb on Thursday may have been a malfunctioned reconnaissance drone that flew off course from Ukraine, said reports. Images of the wreckage, which appeared to be aircraft parts, lying inside a crater have been making the rounds on social media. Analysis of the wreckage suggests the craft may be a Tu-141 "Strizh" reconnaissance drone from Ukraine, The Drive reported. The drone may have gone haywire before crossing Hungary and crashing in Croatia, which is 350 miles away from Ukraine. However, International Business Times could not independently verify the information. The Tu-141s are Soviet-era high-speed missile-like drones, which are used only by Ukraine. Though made in the 1970s, the drones were later upgraded and used on several occasions, including during the 2014 Crimean annexation. Ukrainian troops were said to be using it against Russians last week but lost one after it was shot down. The Tu-141 reconnaissance drone is "more of a cruise missile" than a traditional drone. It is rocket-launched from its trailer and flies a predetermined course at transonic speed, collecting various forms of intelligence. It can be recovered using a parachute and reused after reset, The Drive report added. The "Strizh" drones have a range of 650 miles and can undertake tactical reconnaissance missions. Though they are also used as target drones and as a decoy during combat, it is not clear how this particular Tu-141 headed in the wrong direction. There are also possibilities that Russia took these cold war-era drones from their storage to act as "crude decoys" to trick Ukraine's air defenses. Though the drone's range limits and the location of the crash site prove it couldn't have been from Russia, there is a possibility that it will reach Zagreb if the launch site is in Belarus. However, none of these possibilities are verified. https://www.ibtimes.com/mysterious-drone-crashed-croatia-may-have-got-lost-over-ukraine-report-3433503 Edited March 11 by Orange Alert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello Mum Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 2 hours ago, truepositive said: Of course this circus is designed to steer attention away from the sting injuries amongst other things, but it is also a test run and data gathering operation to see how effective the mass formation psychosis has been thus far. The speed at which the normies flipped the switch on their flavor of virtue signalling is telling but perhaps not surprising. Apparently the bell curves have always looked like this; 5-10% of humanity really sees the scam, and acts on it too, 20-30% is on the fence but avoiding conflict, and 50-60% is perpetually in denial/ self conservation mode/ not interested in life beyond the mechanical aspects of it all. I have come to the conclusion coof changed nothing, just made these demarcations clearer. I don't think you're far off the mark here. What I would say is that if you were awake pre March 2020 you certainly haven't gone back to sleep and in the meantime I would suggest that a meaningful number in the fence sitting section have joined us so maybe the numbers are more positive than we think. Given the hysterical cancelling of any alternative views, which has been ramped up several notches in the last two weeks, I'm inclined to conclude that 'we' are of sufficient numbers now to be giving 'them' a serious headache. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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