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3 hours ago, Lopixa said:

 

 

Tests are carried out at sea level, underground, or under the ocean. The actual weapons are deployed at altitude so mountains etc. will not be a factor.  They are even more destructive when set off at a few thousand feet.

so you dont think person standing at A and B are safe?

do you think the blast defies physics and changes direction when it gets to the top of a hill and runs down it?

uk is full of hills outside london

please post video footage of mountains having no effect on nuke tests as i havent seen any

 

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8 hours ago, Lopixa said:

 

 

Tests are carried out at sea level, underground, or under the ocean. The actual weapons are deployed at altitude so mountains etc. will not be a factor.  They are even more destructive when set off at a few thousand feet.

 

Yes, a nuclear airburst is more destructive.  However, even with an airburst, lets say a mile over Central London, there will always be structures, hills and valleys where you would be in the shadow from at first the intense heat and light flash from the nuclear fireball, then the following blast wave.  The natural contours of the land would offer the best heat and blast protection.  Then it would be the radioactive fallout to contend with, with one wanting to be up wind from ground zero.

 

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Back in 2014  Nikolai Starikov brilliantly explained why Russia will not invade Ukraine. The situation has not changed from a Russian perspective, except from the fact that the Hawks in the West are now even more desperate, which does point towards an imminent false flag event coming very soon.

Even so, Putin will be a few steps ahead of the Globalists and at the very most might send a few special forces into the Donbass region, but that is all.

Older video, but a must watch for those trying to get a basic grasp on a very complicated situation.........
 

 

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On 2/22/2022 at 8:07 AM, Nemo said:

Since when have 'Sanctions' ever prevented a War. How petty sanctioning a super power.

 

i don't think they are intended to prevent wars but rather to start them eg sanctions were made against japan leading to pearl harbour

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

i don't think they are intended to prevent wars but rather to start them eg sanctions were made against japan leading to pearl harbour

Sanctions are counter-productive.  If a country has a completely wrecked economy then they have nothing to loose in a war!  This is why I think WW3 is definitely looming, all the economies are screwed plus lack of affordable resources.  

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For those who ask: "Why does Ukraine matter? “


How the nation of Ukraine ranks:


1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores;


2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore reserves;


2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores (2.3 billion tons, or 12% of the world's reserves);


2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30 billion tons);


2nd place in Europe in terms of mercury ore reserves;


3rd place in Europe (13th place in the world) in shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters)


4th in the world by the total value of natural resources;


7th place in the world in coal reserves (33.9 billion tons)


Ukraine is an agricultural country:


1st in Europe in terms of arable land area;


3rd place in the world by the area of black soil (25% of world's volume);


1st place in the world in exports of sunflower and sunflower oil;


2nd place in the world in barley production and 4th place in barley exports;


3rd largest producer and 4th largest exporter of corn in the world;


4th largest producer of potatoes in the world;


5th largest rye producer in the world;


5th place in the world in bee production (75,000 tons);


8th place in the world in wheat exports;


9th place in the world in the production of chicken eggs;


16th place in the world in cheese exports.


Ukraine can meet the food needs of 600 million people.


Ukraine is an industrialized country:
1st in Europe in ammonia production;


Europe's 2nd and the 4th largest natural gas pipeline system in the world (142.5 bln cubic meters of gas throughput capacity in the EU);


3rd largest in Europe and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants;


3rd place in Europe and 11th in the world in terms of rail network length (21,700 km);


3rd place in the world (after the U.S. and France) in production of locators and locating equipment;


3rd largest iron exporter in the world
4th largest exporter of turbines for nuclear power plants in the world;


4th world's largest manufacturer of rocket launchers;


4th place in the world in clay exports


4th place in the world in titanium exports


8th place in the world in exports of ores and concentrates;


9th place in the world in exports of defence industry products;


10th largest steel producer in the world (32.4 million tons).

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On 2/13/2022 at 4:30 PM, rwkt said:

Zionist UK and Zionist USA want a war with Zionist Russia.............its a wind up to make this fucking world even better for you, If they cant fuck you all with vaccines and covids, then war is the next stage to a reset,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and watch everybody fall for this head-on. 

 

That's what we get when most of us graduate for the University of Coronation Street.



Yep, they want this situation to be like fish in a barrel.

These globalists manipulate all nations and geopolitics.

This doesn’t mean they completely control everything from the top down, they don’t, they just stage events and scenarios.
This is why they want this global top down centralised level of control and hooking everyone up to A.I. it was the ultimate aims of all these wars are all about.

 

However, a situation is being made to occupy Russia with the Ukraine that has completely been stirred up by the west to divide the nation, insight civil war and Russia comes in and it’s the Russians attacking Ukraine and their own people.

It’s basically Nazi Germany again and the framing of Poland and later France etc 

Who are these western powers to have a say in anything to do with Russia and Ukraine?

These situations are taking place on Russias doorstep, by design.

They have a say because they’re behind the “sovereignty” of Ukraine and have something to lose by this “sovereignty” not being maintained…

It has absolutely nothing to do with these western powers but they’ve manipulated this to psychologically frame events and create chaos.

So everyone else can be put under the thumb and squeezed by way of war and what such an atmosphere enables these maniacs to carry out and occupy many nations through a false spectre of war.

The war is on everyone and ensure compliance.

If they could get away with it, war would be openly declared on all those

1. Not accepting Global Government 

2. Not accepting the many “Vaccines”

3. Not accepting the “SMART” Grid surveillance and RFID Chip 

4. Not accepting the one true A.I. God and bleed your heart out for everything Transhumanism 

They can’t do that as the people wouldn’t fight it. So instead, they have the deception of war on Russia and China through Middle East and Ukrainian conflict.

 

The prior Ukraine “Civil War” - if it should actually be called that it’s globalists at work - has mostly been ignored or downplayed in western media for years apart from around the time of geopolitical stunts and the war in Syria. Another “Civil War” situation 🙄

During this time of occupying Russia, situations will escalate involving The Dome of the Rock and then between Israel and the Iran.
Iran will be blamed for some sort of terror event around this situation of The Dome of the Rock and it would be desirable for this Zionist objective that Russia is occupied by war and exhausted by economic sanctions so they will think twice about getting involved in this situation.

A state of chaos for the whole world is desirable when this incident occurs and then they’ll accept psychological framing.

At this time, we also have the biggest censorship under way many of us have witnessed in our own lifetimes, especially ever since we’ve had an internet.

All of this is war and the foundation for war being developed so anyone and everyone can be shut down from saying what’s going on.

COVID and 5G have been in part tools to ensure this mass censorship is underway and then being extended to “hate speech”.

As, Iran will obviously respond to this and would seek alliances of Russia.

Situations involving the chaos in Syria has been setup to aid these wars.

It should be known that these are really wars on everyone and these nations are just a stage to exercise that war on everyone. They’re a theatre to wage war on the world and get everyone to do what these parasites want everyone to do.

These are just a cover to exercise those additional powers globally as well as reshaping the world eventually, destroying the old system beyond all recognition so people will want, desire and beg for what many of us see now for what it is, global tyranny so long as it comes with those comforts we are use to, become familiar and now expect.

 

It’s the globalists bullying Russia into submission but we are being spun Russia as the bully’s. But, Russia are an aid of these globalists as their actions even if inevitable, then allow the equally inevitable spin of all the above, so these powers can be exercised on all of us under the threat of war and such war time powers that, like everything “COVID EMERGENCY” allows an apparent democratic country to be able to act no different to a tyrannical dictatorship, simply because of an apparent “emergency”. It doesn’t matter if it’s real, staged or cooked up so that tyrannical dictatorship can exist as we have been psychologically primed to accept and allow this under the pretext of an emergency, everything can just go out the window and the masses will comply.

The masses need to see the deception underway…

 

In all, it’s a mass globalist population control exercise.

These scenarios could be used for a war on resources to create their hunger games society, which in part is obviously well underway this would just be an extension at some point in time.

Eventually leading to compliance with everything this system of control wants or else you don’t get access to your resources.

This can be vaccines and microchipping etc 

Another aspect can even be, many people have the idea of military style concentration camps and being forced vaccinated and such.

The other way is conscription due to war and you then being forced into vaccination and being ID Tagged etc because you yourself become the military or will find yourself in the gulag.

 

War is a good tool to impose things you can’t impose without the threat and fear of such War.

This is ultimately why this is happening now, they’ve exhausted in many nations what they can get way with in terms of everything COVID and unless we are extremely naive, we can’t talk about these escalations in the Ukraine without the context of COVID Fascism being brought into the picture, along with how this all aids this Zionist Global Agenda.

To me, Globalism and Zionism are exactly the same thing.

 

It’s also suspect how the likes of Boris Johnson is still in office, let alone lecturing Russia or anyone. A massive scam is taking place and for so many to plead ignorance and go along with this crap, they must be complicit in agendas unbeknownst to us, many of these people should already be in a nuremberg style trial without any such war officially even being declared.

 

 

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11 hours ago, Roscommon said:

Back in 2014  Nikolai Starikov brilliantly explained why Russia will not invade Ukraine. The situation has not changed from a Russian perspective, except from the fact that the Hawks in the West are now even more desperate, which does point towards an imminent false flag event coming very soon.

Even so, Putin will be a few steps ahead of the Globalists and at the very most might send a few special forces into the Donbass region, but that is all.

Older video, but a must watch for those trying to get a basic grasp on a very complicated situation.........
 

 

 

 

You were saying???

 

Here we go. Taiwan will be invaded soon by China....

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11 hours ago, Macnamara said:

i don't think they are intended to prevent wars but rather to start them eg sanctions were made against japan leading to pearl harbour

Posted by John Whitehead

Posted on 24 February 2022

Perpetual Tyranny: Endless Wars Are the Enemy of Freedom

“Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes… known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few.… No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.” — James Madison

War is the enemy of freedom.

As long as America’s politicians continue to involve us in wars that bankrupt the nation, jeopardize our servicemen and women, increase the chances of terrorism and blowback domestically, and push the nation that much closer to eventual collapse, “we the people” will find ourselves in a perpetual state of tyranny.

Yet as Eisenhower recognized, the consequences of allowing the military-industrial complex to wage war, exhaust our resources and dictate our national priorities are beyond grave:

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some 50 miles of concrete highway. We pay for a single fighter with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. This, I repeat, is the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.

We failed to heed Eisenhower’s warning.

https://davidicke.com/2022/02/24/perpetual-tyranny-endless-wars-are-the-enemy-of-freedom/

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19 hours ago, bamboozooka said:

so you dont think person standing at A and B are safe?

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You seem to think that there are places on Earth where such protection is likely. Since the blast is 2000+ feet up, your map is not even close to being accurate. However, if there are actually mountains in the way of a blast, protection from the blast is certainly a possibility for A and B. Fallout though becomes a massive problem. The blast will strike the edges of the mountain and spray it out all over the other side. This is a very strange argument where you seem to think that there are places to stand when a nuclear bomb goes off.

 

19 hours ago, bamboozooka said:

do you think the blast defies physics and changes direction when it gets to the top of a hill and runs down it?

uk is full of hills outside london

 

No.  Do you think there are places anywhere near you with Mountains over 2000+ feet either side? If they are domed elevations, this can potentially work against the protection. Do you think there will be just the one blast? Surely you don't. Even just one of their SS-25 weapons would devastate London. Hiroshima was 15 kilotons, an ss-25 is 550 kilotons - that is 37 times more destructive force for just one missile. If you think huddling up next to a Mountain is going to work, then best of luck to you. I'd rather be right underneath it.

 

19 hours ago, bamboozooka said:

please post video footage of mountains having no effect on nuke tests as i havent seen any

 

Nuke tests - I already said these are carried out mainly at sea level or below so I never made that claim. Mountains would stop the blast at low level.

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20 hours ago, Incontinentia_Buttux said:

I know that they are set off above the ground, but for you to say topography doesn't effect the shockwave is erroneous.  The bombs certainly don't give off perfectly concentric circles of damage, which was what my point was anyway.  Certain effects can make the bombs more devastating not less. 

 

I did not say topography won't affect the blast wave. I said mountains won't be a factor and meant the damage caused. I do understand that great big mountains in the way of shock waves will deflect them somewhat, but when the shockwaves are the size of a 550 kiloton missile then concentric circles (especially London with a high altitude detonation) are pretty much what will happen.

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20 hours ago, Incontinentia_Buttux said:

We are looking at the seeds of WW3.  Can't use nukes?  Not large strategic ones, but tactical ones on a battlefield could be a possibility.  

 

Any use of nuclear weapons with the West as first users will escalate this to full scale exchanges. That is why they cannot use them. Nuclear weapons were always this M.A.D. acronym and to a very large extent that is pretty much why they won't get used. Putin is Mr. Mad but I suspect even he isn't insane enough to use them.

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57 minutes ago, Lopixa said:

 

Any use of nuclear weapons with the West as first users will escalate this to full scale exchanges. That is why they cannot use them. Nuclear weapons were always this M.A.D. acronym and to a very large extent that is pretty much why they won't get used. Putin is Mr. Mad but I suspect even he isn't insane enough to use them.

There are TACTICAL nukes these days for use on battlefields.  The strategic "Mutually Assured Destruction" ICBM format is old hat.  The concentric circles are bullshit, pure propaganda.  Take a look at the difference between the shockwave damage between Hiroshima and Nagasaki, local topography played a part and it didn't involve huge mountains!

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6 hours ago, alexa said:

 

 

The reporter looks like a WW2 German military policeman, Feldgendamarie.🤣

 

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Talk about making an overdramitised scene for the TV news report.  I expect the cameraman was not wearing a flak jacket and a coal scuttle helmet.

 

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In what might be one of the best videos of the coronavirus era, an MSNBC news reporter named Cal Perry who was shaming people for not wearing masks was forced to admit on live TV that his own cameraman wasn’t wearing a mask.

 

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3 minutes ago, Sexpistol50 said:

MP David Davis isn't playing with a full deck , he wants to send British fighter jets to fly over Ukraine and bomb the Russians. FFS !

 

we should send david davis over there with a rifle to make good on his threats

 

I for one will not be fighting my russian, european brothers

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The first day since the Covid scam began that Covid has not been mentioned on 'the news'.

 

I actually tuned into the MSM live news streams just to see if Covid was ever mentioned.

 

Not once.

 

Blissful!!!

 

It's a shame that only a war can distract from Covid, but what the hell. Beggars can't be choosers.

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