lake Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, Macnamara said: Don't know how big the gap is but they could push a bailey bridge across and have that road up and running again within hours albeit with a bit of traffic management. The bridge is basically a separate train track and 2 individual road bridges (one in and one out, both 2 lane) and the train track is already in use again .... and the undamaged road bridge is intended to be in use soon as a single highway each way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, lake said: The bridge is basically a separate train track and 2 individual road bridges (one in and one out, both 2 lane) and the train track is already in use again .... and the undamaged road bridge is intended to be in use soon as a single highway each way. look at the timing of that^ Those railway tankers were just passing as the bomb went off. Must have been remotely detonated and perhaps helped with some intel about the movements of those train carriages....perhaps satellite imagery 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Crimean Bridge explosion: What we know so far The bridge connecting the peninsula with mainland Russia was badly hit on Saturday A truck blew up on the Crimean Bridge early on Saturday, causing significant damage to a piece of infrastructure that is vital for Russia in its military operation in Ukraine. Three people were killed as a result of the blast, which temporarily halted both automobile and railway traffic. What happened? The powerful explosion occurred on the Crimean Bridge, which connects the Russian peninsula of Crimea to the country’s Krasnodar Region, at around 6am local time on Saturday. It caused a partial collapse of the road used by automobiles and a blaze on a parallel railway section where seven fuel tanks caught fire. Traffic on the whole bridge was stopped due to the incident. Russia’s National Anti-Terrorism Committee said that a truck blew up as it was traveling along the 19-km-long structure. The CCTV videos from the scene also showed a lorry exploding. At least three people were killed as a result of the explosion, according to the Investigative Committee. They’re believed to be the driver and passengers of a car that was attempting to overtake the truck at the moment it blew up. Two bodies have already been retrieved from the waters of the Kerch Strait. READ MORE: Moscow points to Kiev’s ‘terrorist nature’ after bridge explosion Helicopters were deployed to tackle the blaze, which was extinguished several hours after the explosion. The undamaged part of the bridge was reopened with one lane available for traffic in both directions starting at 4pm local time, the Transport Ministry said. Trains will be running again from 8pm, it added. It’s not yet clear how long it will take to repair the damaged section. The Crimean authorities said that ferry service would also be provided to those looking to cross between the peninsula and mainland. A criminal investigation has been launched, with law enforcement agencies having already identified the owner of the truck that exploded as being a resident of Russia’s Krasnodar Region. A search has been carried out at the man’s home. How did the two sides react? Kiev stopped short of claiming responsibility for the attack, but an aide to Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky, Mikhail Podoliak, warned Russia that what happened at the bridge was “just the beginning.” The incident was also celebrated on social media by Ukraine’s Security Service (SBU) and the country’s Defense Ministry, with the latter claiming that one of the “notorious symbols of Russian power in Ukrainian Crimea” has “gone down.” Russia’s Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova wrote on Telegram that the reaction of Ukrainian officials testified to the “terrorist nature” of the government in Kiev. An unnamed Ukrainian government official told the Washington Post that Ukrainian special services were behind the explosion. This followed a report by Ukrainian outlet Ukrainska Pravda, which cited a source in the country’s security services, claiming that the attack was masterminded by the SBU. Why is the Crimean Bridge important? Construction of the bridge, which is also called the Kerch Bridge, started two years after Crimea overwhelmingly voted to join Russia in a referendum in 2014. It was completed in 2018, with the 19-km-long structure – the longest bridge in Europe – becoming a symbol of the peninsula’s reunification with Russia. During the conflict in Ukraine, Russia has been using the bridge to transport armored vehicles and other military hardware and cargo. Several Ukrainian officials and military commanders have in recent months issued threats that the bridge could become a target. https://www.rt.com/russia/564297-crimea-bridge-explosion-ukraine/ 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nip Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, bamboozooka said: I must be losing my sense of humour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lake Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 19 hours ago, Macnamara said: look at the timing of that^ Those railway tankers were just passing as the bomb went off. Must have been remotely detonated and perhaps helped with some intel about the movements of those train carriages....perhaps satellite imagery Yes I agree .... Either the truck driver was a 'suicide' bomber or he didn't know what was going to be done and the explosive was remotely detonated. If you consider this image : The explosion happened on the Russia to Crimea roadway bridge. On that path there is very limited 'checks' on vehicles while on the opposite path (Crimea to Russia, so the middle of the 3 transits) there is 'scanning' of all vehicles! I mean big arse scanners to detect anything untoward. I would guess that the intention would have preferred for the explosion to happen on the middle section .... which may have created greater damage but couldn't be done! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, lake said: Yes I agree .... Either the truck driver was a 'suicide' bomber or he didn't know what was going to be done and the explosive was remotely detonated. If you consider this image : The explosion happened on the Russia to Crimea roadway bridge. On that path there is very limited 'checks' on vehicles while on the opposite path (Crimea to Russia, so the middle of the 3 transits) there is 'scanning' of all vehicles! I mean big arse scanners to detect anything untoward. I would guess that the intention would have preferred for the explosion to happen on the middle section .... which may have created greater damage but couldn't be done! it certainly looks as if they wanted to hit those flammable train tankers to maximise damage to the bridge. There is some talk in the mainstream press of it being a drone or boat and not a truck bomb as the russians claim But to time it to hit the train as well might suggest the use of satellite imagery and the people who have that kind of tech are the yanks, brits and israelis 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefaria Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 I don’t believe the truck bomb theory that the msm is putting out, that explosion was massive enough to severely damage the bridge, enough to make it collapse, which are naturally very strong “over engineered” structures. I think a military grade weapon was used, perhaps a missile. There were some reports of “two explosions” maybe two missiles were used one was intended to take the rail bridge out too but it was off target. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifth element Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 MASSIVE RUSSIAN ATTACKS IN PROGRESS INSIDE UKRAINE; Zelensky's Office Hit By Missiles! We ve entered the Ukraine grand finale... Hal Turner Radio Show - MASSIVE RUSSIAN ATTACKS IN PROGRESS INSIDE UKRAINE; Zelensky's Office Hit By Missiles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifth element Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 5 days earlier or there abouts.. Been getting letters from folks in Russia about light beams in the sky. These laser systems are "anti-satellite" insofar as they can "dazzle" any recon satellite orbiting within 1500 kilometers of earth! https://www.thespacereview.com/article/3967/1 If imaging satellites are blinded by a laser beam, an adversary would be denied the opportunity to follow the movements of mobile ICBMs. This would come in handy if there were signs of an imminent attack on Russia's ICBM arsenal or if Russia itself had the intention to launch a nuclear first strike on another nation. The images on this link telegram are what the lasers really look like...not those wide light towers.. I wish I could copy the pic but I can t.. Shadow of Ezra – Telegram So what were these,some weird stuff going on at the moment.. Edited October 10, 2022 by Fifth element Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbirss Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Fifth element said: 5 days earlier or there abouts.. Been getting letters from folks in Russia about light beams in the sky. These laser systems are "anti-satellite" insofar as they can "dazzle" any recon satellite orbiting within 1500 kilometers of earth! https://www.thespacereview.com/article/3967/1 If imaging satellites are blinded by a laser beam, an adversary would be denied the opportunity to follow the movements of mobile ICBMs. This would come in handy if there were signs of an imminent attack on Russia's ICBM arsenal or if Russia itself had the intention to launch a nuclear first strike on another nation. The images on this link telegram are what the lasers really look like...not those wide light towers.. I wish I could copy the pic but I can t.. Shadow of Ezra – Telegram So what were these,some weird stuff going on at the moment.. could be a technology falling in line with H.A.A.R.P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 What Crimean Residents Think Of The Attack on the Bridge Oct 10, 2022 Today there has been wave after wave of explosions, not just in Kyiv, but all across Ukraine, from Lviv in the west to Kharkiv in the east and Odesa in the south. This seems to be Russia's answer to the attack on the Crimean bridge 2 days ago which Russia has declared a terrorist attack by Ukrainian special services. This is a clear escalation of the war. In this report, I talk to residents of Crimea and see what they think about the attack on the bridge and how they are dealing with Russian control of Crimea and what they think about Ukraine's vows to regain control of Crimea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy1033 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 On 10/9/2022 at 3:47 PM, lake said: I mean big arse scanners to detect anything untoward. I would guess that the intention would have preferred for the explosion to happen on the middle section .... which may have created greater damage but couldn't be done! Someone would of had to advise who ever did the bomb, on how to get past the detectors. Someone would have to know how russia defended the bridge, and how to get past that defence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, andy1033 said: Someone would of had to advise who ever did the bomb, on how to get past the detectors. Someone would have to know how russia defended the bridge, and how to get past that defence. Hi Andy. Can you see and read private messages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Indigo Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 EXPOSED: Before Ukraine blew up Kerch Bridge, British spies plotted it The secret British intelligence plot to blow up Crimea’s Kerch Bridge is revealed in internal documents and correspondence obtained exclusively by The Grayzone. The Grayzone has obtained an April 2022 presentation drawn up for senior British intelligence officers hashing out an elaborate scheme to blow up Crimea’s Kerch Bridge with the involvement of specially trained Ukrainian soldiers. Almost six months after the plan was circulated, Kerch Bridge was attacked in an October 8th suicide bombing apparently overseen by Ukraine’s SBU intelligence services. Detailed proposals for providing “audacious” support to Kiev’s “maritime raiding operations” were drafted at the request of Chris Donnelly, a senior British Army intelligence operative and veteran high ranking NATO advisor. The wide-ranging plan’s core component was “destruction of the bridge over the Kerch Strait.” Documents and correspondence plotting the operation were provided to The Grayzone by an anonymous source. The truck bombing of the Kerch Bridge differed operationally from the plot sketched therein. Yet, Britain’s evident interest in planning such an attack underscores the deep involvement of NATO powers in the Ukraine proxy war. At almost precisely the time that London reportedly sabotaged peace talks between Kiev and Moscow in April this year, British military intelligence operatives were drawing up blueprints to destroy a major Russian bridge crossed by thousands of civilians per day. The roadmap was produced by Hugh Ward, a British military veteran. A number of strategies for helping Ukraine “pose a threat to Russian naval forces” in the Black Sea are outlined. The overriding objectives are stated as aiming to “degrade” Russia’s ability to blockade Kiev, “erode” Moscow’s “warfighting capability”, and isolate Russian land and maritime forces in Crimea by “denying resupply by sea and overland via Kerch bridge.” In an email, Ward asked Donnelly to “please protect this document,” and it’s easy to see why. Of these assorted plans, only the “Kerch Bridge Raid CONOPS [concept of operation]” is subject to a dedicated annex at the conclusion of Ward’s report, underlining its significance. The content amounts to direct, detailed advocacy for the commission of what could constitute a grave war crime. Markedly, in plotting ways to destroy a major passenger bridge, there is no reference to avoiding civilian casualties. Across three separate pages, alongside diagrams, the author spells out the terms of the “mission” – “[disabling] the Kerch Bridge in a way that is audacious, disrupts road and rail access to Crimea and maritime access to the Sea of Azov.” Ward suggests that destroying the bridge “would require a cruise missile battery to hit the two concrete pillars either side of the central steel arch, which will cause a complete structural failure,” and “prevent any road re-supply from the Russian mainland to Crimea and temporally [sic] disrupt the shipping lane.” An alternative “scheme” entails a “team of attack divers or UUVs [unmanned underwater vehicles] equipped with limpet mines and linear cutting charges” targeting a “key weakness” and “design flaw” in the bridge’s pillars. This “flaw” is “several thin pylons used to support the main span,” which were intended to allow strong currents to flow underneath the Bridge with minimal friction. Ward pinpoints a particular area in which the depth of water around a set of pillars was just 10 meters, making it the “weakest part” of the structure. In related emails obtained by The Grayzone, Chris Donnelly, the senior British army intelligence operative and former NATO advisor, declared the proposals to be “very impressive indeed.” Reached by phone, Hugh Ward did not deny that he had prepared the Kerch Bridge destruction blueprint for Chris Donnelly. “I’m going to have a chat with Chris [Donnelly] and confirm with him what he’s prepared for me to release,” Ward told The Grayzone, when asked directly if he drafted the “audacious” plan. Asked again to confirm his role in the blueprint, Ward paused, then said: “I can not confirm that. I’ll have a chat with Chris first.” More: https://thegrayzone.com/2022/10/10/ukrainian-kerch-bridge/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Indigo said: EXPOSED: Before Ukraine blew up Kerch Bridge, British spies plotted it The secret British intelligence plot to blow up Crimea’s Kerch Bridge is revealed in internal documents and correspondence obtained exclusively by The Grayzone. The Grayzone has obtained an April 2022 presentation drawn up for senior British intelligence officers hashing out an elaborate scheme to blow up Crimea’s Kerch Bridge with the involvement of specially trained Ukrainian soldiers. Almost six months after the plan was circulated, Kerch Bridge was attacked in an October 8th suicide bombing apparently overseen by Ukraine’s SBU intelligence services. Detailed proposals for providing “audacious” support to Kiev’s “maritime raiding operations” were drafted at the request of Chris Donnelly, a senior British Army intelligence operative and veteran high ranking NATO advisor. The wide-ranging plan’s core component was “destruction of the bridge over the Kerch Strait.” Documents and correspondence plotting the operation were provided to The Grayzone by an anonymous source. The truck bombing of the Kerch Bridge differed operationally from the plot sketched therein. Yet, Britain’s evident interest in planning such an attack underscores the deep involvement of NATO powers in the Ukraine proxy war. At almost precisely the time that London reportedly sabotaged peace talks between Kiev and Moscow in April this year, British military intelligence operatives were drawing up blueprints to destroy a major Russian bridge crossed by thousands of civilians per day. The roadmap was produced by Hugh Ward, a British military veteran. A number of strategies for helping Ukraine “pose a threat to Russian naval forces” in the Black Sea are outlined. The overriding objectives are stated as aiming to “degrade” Russia’s ability to blockade Kiev, “erode” Moscow’s “warfighting capability”, and isolate Russian land and maritime forces in Crimea by “denying resupply by sea and overland via Kerch bridge.” In an email, Ward asked Donnelly to “please protect this document,” and it’s easy to see why. Of these assorted plans, only the “Kerch Bridge Raid CONOPS [concept of operation]” is subject to a dedicated annex at the conclusion of Ward’s report, underlining its significance. The content amounts to direct, detailed advocacy for the commission of what could constitute a grave war crime. Markedly, in plotting ways to destroy a major passenger bridge, there is no reference to avoiding civilian casualties. Across three separate pages, alongside diagrams, the author spells out the terms of the “mission” – “[disabling] the Kerch Bridge in a way that is audacious, disrupts road and rail access to Crimea and maritime access to the Sea of Azov.” Ward suggests that destroying the bridge “would require a cruise missile battery to hit the two concrete pillars either side of the central steel arch, which will cause a complete structural failure,” and “prevent any road re-supply from the Russian mainland to Crimea and temporally [sic] disrupt the shipping lane.” An alternative “scheme” entails a “team of attack divers or UUVs [unmanned underwater vehicles] equipped with limpet mines and linear cutting charges” targeting a “key weakness” and “design flaw” in the bridge’s pillars. This “flaw” is “several thin pylons used to support the main span,” which were intended to allow strong currents to flow underneath the Bridge with minimal friction. Ward pinpoints a particular area in which the depth of water around a set of pillars was just 10 meters, making it the “weakest part” of the structure. In related emails obtained by The Grayzone, Chris Donnelly, the senior British army intelligence operative and former NATO advisor, declared the proposals to be “very impressive indeed.” Reached by phone, Hugh Ward did not deny that he had prepared the Kerch Bridge destruction blueprint for Chris Donnelly. “I’m going to have a chat with Chris [Donnelly] and confirm with him what he’s prepared for me to release,” Ward told The Grayzone, when asked directly if he drafted the “audacious” plan. Asked again to confirm his role in the blueprint, Ward paused, then said: “I can not confirm that. I’ll have a chat with Chris first.” More: https://thegrayzone.com/2022/10/10/ukrainian-kerch-bridge/ Setting the Anglo-Saxon and his European kinsmen up for defeat. It's all so predictable. On 4/6/2022 at 2:58 AM, EnigmaticWorld said: “whiteness is the supreme embodiment of privilege." - Max Blumenthal https://gilad.online/writings/2014/11/26/the-pathology-of-max-blumenthal its_all_so_tiresome.jpg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) The bomb was planted the same way the 7/7 bomb was planted, underneath the Train by the military, 9/11 demolitions planted on the building supports and this bridge is of course less about the actual damage to the bridge but the media frenzy and escalation of and justification for hostilities. Let me guess, at the same time where the Russians where carrying out a training op to prepare for a bomb blowing up the bridge... Its all Theatre, Its all Political. And I trust Putin as much as Zelenski, MI6 and NATO. That is, they all use, abuse and lie to their people and they're all part of the NWO. If governments want war then let the politicians and generals pick up arms and fight against their counterparts, leave the people out of it. Edited October 11, 2022 by Nemo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 On 10/9/2022 at 4:05 PM, Macnamara said: But to time it to hit the train as well might suggest the use of satellite imagery and the people who have that kind of tech are the yanks, brits and israelis EXPOSED: Before Ukraine blew up Kerch Bridge, British spies plotted it Kit Klarenberg·October 10, 2022 The secret British intelligence plot to blow up Crimea’s Kerch Bridge is revealed in internal documents and correspondence obtained exclusively by The Grayzone. The Grayzone has obtained an April 2022 presentation drawn up for senior British intelligence officers hashing out an elaborate scheme to blow up Crimea’s Kerch Bridge with the involvement of specially trained Ukrainian soldiers. Almost six months after the plan was circulated, Kerch Bridge was attacked in an October 8th suicide bombing apparently overseen by Ukraine’s SBU intelligence services. Detailed proposals for providing “audacious” support to Kiev’s “maritime raiding operations” were drafted at the request of Chris Donnelly, a senior British Army intelligence operative and veteran high ranking NATO advisor. The wide-ranging plan’s core component was “destruction of the bridge over the Kerch Strait.” Documents and correspondence plotting the operation were provided to The Grayzone by an anonymous source. The truck bombing of the Kerch Bridge differed operationally from the plot sketched therein. Yet, Britain’s evident interest in planning such an attack underscores the deep involvement of NATO powers in the Ukraine proxy war. At almost precisely the time that London reportedly sabotaged peace talks between Kiev and Moscow in April this year, British military intelligence operatives were drawing up blueprints to destroy a major Russian bridge crossed by thousands of civilians per day. The roadmap was produced by Hugh Ward, a British military veteran. A number of strategies for helping Ukraine “pose a threat to Russian naval forces” in the Black Sea are outlined. The overriding objectives are stated as aiming to “degrade” Russia’s ability to blockade Kiev, “erode” Moscow’s “warfighting capability”, and isolate Russian land and maritime forces in Crimea by “denying resupply by sea and overland via Kerch bridge.” Read the complete blueprint: Support for Maritime Raiding Operations – Proposal In an email, Ward asked Donnelly to “please protect this document,” and it’s easy to see why. Of these assorted plans, only the “Kerch Bridge Raid CONOPS [concept of operation]” is subject to a dedicated annex at the conclusion of Ward’s report, underlining its significance. The content amounts to direct, detailed advocacy for the commission of what could constitute a grave war crime. Markedly, in plotting ways to destroy a major passenger bridge, there is no reference to avoiding civilian casualties. Across three separate pages, alongside diagrams, the author spells out the terms of the “mission” – “[disabling] the Kerch Bridge in a way that is audacious, disrupts road and rail access to Crimea and maritime access to the Sea of Azov.” Ward suggests that destroying the bridge “would require a cruise missile battery to hit the two concrete pillars either side of the central steel arch, which will cause a complete structural failure,” and “prevent any road re-supply from the Russian mainland to Crimea and temporally [sic] disrupt the shipping lane.” https://thegrayzone.com/2022/10/10/ukrainian-kerch-bridge/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) Russia opens probe over Ukrainian Neo-Nazi's ‘mass grave’ video Disturbing footage purportedly shows murdered civilians thrown into a pit Russia’s Investigative Committee has opened a probe over a disturbing video showing what are believed to be massacred civilians thrown into a mass grave. The news was announced by the body’s head, Aleksandr Bastrykin, on Monday. The footage in question had been shared on social media by a notorious member of Ukraine’s neo-Nazi Azov regiment with a history of showing gruesome imagery of killed “pro-Russian” civilians. “Experts with the Russian Investigative Committee will take measures to establish the circumstances of the death of civilians, as well as all those involved in their torture and murder, in order to bring them to criminal justice,” the Committee said in a statement. The graphic clip was originally released online on Sunday by Maksim Zhorin, a Ukrainian officer and former senior commander of the neo-Nazi Azov regiment, which is outlawed in Russia. The far-right fighter said the video was shot in the town of Kupyansk, which recently taken by Ukrainian forces. The video shows a big hole dug in the ground with several bodies in civilian clothes lying semi-buried in it. Another body of an almost-naked man with his hands tied behind his back and legs held together by tape can be seen rolling down a steep slope into the pit. A shovel can be seen in the foreground, indicating that whoever shot the video was in the process of burying the bodies in a mass grave, while several men sporting military camouflage can be seen in the background. Zhorin initially said that the video showed “civilian population” and warned that “there will be retaliation.” Shortly after the publication of the disturbing footage, Zhorin altered his post, claiming the video was taken from a phone owned by an “occupant,” implying the murder had been committed by the Russian military. “However, the public raised alarm over the situation in the video. It indicates that the video was filmed recently, when the town was under the control of Ukrainian armed forces. The internal parameters of the video also show that it was filmed on the afternoon of October 9th. These facts speak of new war crimes by the Kiev regime,” the Committee noted. Zhorin is already known for posting graphic images of Russian soldiers, as well as of massacred civilians whom he accuses of being pro-Russian. In May, he released photos of apparent murder victims whom he identified as supporters of a Ukrainian opposition party. The extremely graphic imagery, deleted later by the neo-Nazi fighter, suggested the activists were brutally tortured and beaten to death. https://www.rt.com/russia/564406-mass-burial-video-investigation/ Russia alerts international rights groups to ‘mass grave’ video The Russian human rights council has called for an international probe into a gruesome video shared by a Ukrainian neo-Nazi Russia has alerted several international human rights organizations about a disturbing video purportedly showing dead civilians thrown into a mass grave in Ukraine, the Presidential Council for Civil Society and Human Rights said on Monday. The video was shared by a Ukrainian neo-Nazi militant, who, however, blamed Russian troops for the apparent massacre. The head of the Russian human rights council, Valery Fedorov, informed the UN Human Rights Council (OHCHR), the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), and Amnesty International, among other groups, about the grisly footage. “This video speaks of extrajudicial killings, the physical elimination of people who show a civil position and dare to oppose official Kiev. The situation is also aggravated by the fact that official representatives of the Ukrainian authorities have previously openly announced carrying out ‘tough sweeping’ and ‘filtration measures’,” Fedorov said in a statement urging an international probe into the affair. Earlier in the day, Russia’s Investigative Committee said it had launched a probe into the alleged massacre, which is believed to have happened near the town of Kupyansk in eastern Ukraine. The town was recently re-captured by Ukrainian troops after being held by Russian forces. The video was released online on Sunday by Maksim Zhorin, formerly a senior commander with the neo-Nazi Azov regiment, which is banned in Russia. Footage shows several presumably dead bodies in civilian clothing half-buried in a pit, with another body of an almost-naked man rolling into the hole. Zhorin initially said that the video showed the “civilian population” and warned that “there will be retaliation.” Shortly thereafter, however, he altered his post, claiming the video had been obtained from a phone seized from an “occupant,” implying the murders had been committed by the Russian military. https://www.rt.com/russia/564429-ukraine-mass-grave-probe/ Bucha 2.0 | Ukrainian neo-Nazi blames Russia for 'mass grave' https://rumble.com/v1ni8no-bucha-2.0-ukrainian-neo-nazi-blames-russia-for-mass-grave.html Edited October 11, 2022 by Indigo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 the grayzone also says boris' visits to ukraine was to order voldemort NOT to have any peace talks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAARPING_On Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, bamboozooka said: the grayzone also says boris' visits to ukraine was to order voldemort NOT to have any peace talks. Yes, I do recall there being a peace or "negotiation" deal on the table from Russia at the time Johnson went over, following that visit it was sunk without trace. Blatantly obvious that Johnson was there to satisfy the wishes of his overlords and that of the military industrial corporations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 nato is funding al qaeda in ukraine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, bamboozooka said: nato is funding al qaeda in ukraine You mean to say it is the west that arms, trains and funds terrorism? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, TheConsultant said: You mean to say it is the west that arms, trains and funds terrorism? we knew that all along. its that they are shipping them from syria to ukraine maybe al qaeda/isis have a fetish of being spanked by russians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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