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Its a form of intellectual starvation only being able to have any kind of discussion in the real with others who get all their info from the ministry of truth clergy & only ever parrot the offical narrative. You have to dumb down every topic or look a complete mad man. But then who studies the kind of shit we do, very few.

 

I talk politics with a 98 year old war veteran who has been brainwashed all his life. Try debating with him about Ukraine.

Like even telling him Zelensky was an actor who played a Ukrainian president. LMAO.

He just tells me I need locking up & says he cant wait for his 4th jab & why wont they hurry it up.

The guys 98 with most of his marbles & still going strong, so must be doing something right. Who am I to argue.

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ECUMENICAL ALLIANCE SEEKS TO DECLARE KIEV AS “NEW JERUSALEM

 

Last week we told you about Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky’s odd comment that his country would become Big Israel. We continued researching the topic and found a lot of fascinating information to share with you about a movement to declare Kiev the New Jerusalem. If the main proponent of the scheme was not a billionaire, we would not pay much attention to it. The deeper we dug, the more we found. Doc Burkhart is back and ready to jump into this fascinating topic.

 

https://www.trunews.com/stream/ecumenical-alliance-seeks-to-declare-kiev-as-new-jerusalem

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11 hours ago, Fluke said:

It really is unbelievable. I was quite disturbed tonight when my dad started getting quite animated, thought we was going to come to blows at one point all because i said i am taking a stoic view. Not sure if its the vaccine but its really not the same chap I remember. 

 

He was talking about when he grew up through the cold war and i simply asked the question, do you think that was all propaganda.? He became quite angry after this. He said "i lived through it". Really lived through what dad? Propaganda. And i mentioned the emotive footage we are shown similar to that of the covid. 

 

"Ohh you just have a low opinion of people you always have to take opposite view blah blah" wheres your humanity. I just said mate i am not defending my humanity over this never said i didnt feel sorry for the poor buggers caught up in this. 

 

Sad i feel like ive lost my old man. I have fond memories of me as a kid walking along the river thames in kent having hours long philosophical discussions and debates. Just a distant memory now. I actually think the vaccine has changed people. 

 

 

Quite a few of us have noticed the same thing with people we know very well. It really is as if they are a new creation - and not in a good way. I have to say that it is not everybody, but then not everybody (I believe) had either the real thing or a high dose.

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13 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

How screwed are we if Russia says that they're not behind it? Could get ugly.

You knew this shit was gonna happen sooner or later , it's just like Syria and the media are gonna go into a frenzy with this, Boris and Biden will be singing from same hymn sheet condemning Russia while the pesky Nazi Battalion plan their next false flag . God knows what will happen next but people are waking up .

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On 4/9/2022 at 12:05 AM, EnigmaticWorld said:

Russia still has Lenin in a mausoleum in the middle of Red Square where people line up and have wedding pics outside of (I've read.)

 

Makes me sick.

 

But of course their education and media is tightly controlled like ours.

 

Reminds me of something Dr. William Pierce said in the 90s. What should have happened [after the 'fall' of communism/during "privatisation"] is that patriots from all the countries from Russia to Bulgaria, Hungary, Ukraine, Baltics and Poland should have round up all the "communists" at the time and had them hanging from lampposts.

 

I've never been one to be too keen on the idea of capital punishment (or violence/eye for an eye,) (until very recently when I read children dropping dead from the shot I want to see them all on the gallows; govt leaders, health ministers, media both male and female) - but the more I've read about the horrors and rape of Russia and Eastern Europe, the more I firmly believe that definitely should have happened!

 

And I'm not sorry if this seems like I'm advocating for it!😡

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5 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

Russia still has Lenin in a mausoleum in the middle of Red Square where people line up and have wedding pics outside of (I've read.)

 

Makes me sick.

 

But of course their education and media is tightly controlled like ours.

 

Reminds me of something Dr. William Pierce said in the 90s. What should have happened [after the 'fall' of communism/during "privatisation"] is that patriots from all the countries from Russia to Bulgaria, Hungary, Ukraine, Baltics and Poland should have round up all the "communists" at the time and had them hanging from lampposts.

 

I've never been one to be too keen on the idea of capital punishment (or violence/eye for an eye,) (until very recently when I read children dropping dead from the shot I want to see them all on the gallows; govt leaders, health ministers, media both male and female) - but the more I've read about the horrors and rape of Russia and Eastern Europe, the more I firmly believe that definitely should have happened!

 

And I'm not sorry if this seems like I'm advocating for it!😡

 

Yeah, they had Stalin's corpse on display too, but I guess that probably looked too sketchy.

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6 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Yeah, they had Stalin's corpse on display too, but I guess that probably looked too sketchy.

Never knew that.

https://www.rbth.com/history/330850-why-stalins-body-was-removed-mausoleum

 

He was there along side Lenin for 7 years. They moved him as part of de-Stalinization. For years after Khrushchev's famous speech about Stalin's cult of personality his statues started to get smashed across the union so the Communist Party thought best they move him...- but in typical commie fashion..

 

Why on Halloween? Many believe it is just a coincidence. But on October 30, the Tsar Bomb, the most powerful nuclear weapon ever created, was tested at the Novaya Zemlya archipelago in the Arctic Ocean. So the following day, it was the bomb that made the headlines, while the reinterment of Stalin went by largely unnoticed. There were no protests or anything, however the operation was kept a secret regardless.

 

[I'm sure I read somewhere it's illegal in some ex-soviet countries to desecrate Lenin/Stalin statues.]

 

When looking for the article and found this from 2015 - peak commie Guardian.

Sorry to bring up Rudolf but I doubt we'd see the same argument used to keep his statues up! lol

 

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Back on topic.

Can't remember where I read it, but it was some years ago.

That Putin wanted Kiev, especially, as it is the first major city/heart of ancient Rus; founded c.482, before the Kievan Rus', before the Rurik dynasty and founding of Novgorod c859 and long before Moscow 1147.

 

PS. I know that Kyiv is apparently the Ukrainian spelling that the govt (along side banning Russian language) starting forcing international media to spell it that way, but it will always be KEY-ev not K' iv to me. When I first started seeing it spelt that way I was very confused! lol

 

KyivNotKiev is an online campaign started by the Ukrainian Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) together with the 15 member centre for strategic communications "StratCom Ukraine" on 2 October 2018. Its goal is to persuade English-language media and organisations to exclusively use Kyiv (derived from the Ukrainian language name Київ) instead of Kiev (derived from the Russian language name Киев) as the name of the Ukrainian capital.[1][2]

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3 hours ago, skitzorat said:

Russia still has Lenin in a mausoleum in the middle of Red Square where people line up and have wedding pics outside of (I've read.)

 

Makes me sick.

 

But of course their education and media is tightly controlled like ours.

 

Reminds me of something Dr. William Pierce said in the 90s. What should have happened [after the 'fall' of communism/during "privatisation"] is that patriots from all the countries from Russia to Bulgaria, Hungary, Ukraine, Baltics and Poland should have round up all the "communists" at the time and had them hanging from lampposts.

 

I've never been one to be too keen on the idea of capital punishment (or violence/eye for an eye,) (until very recently when I read children dropping dead from the shot I want to see them all on the gallows; govt leaders, health ministers, media both male and female) - but the more I've read about the horrors and rape of Russia and Eastern Europe, the more I firmly believe that definitely should have happened!

 

And I'm not sorry if this seems like I'm advocating for it!😡

And LBGTQXYZ+9-1×phi÷infinite and beyond. Can't forget them. 😁

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9 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

And LBGTQXYZ+9-1×phi÷infinite and beyond. Can't forget them. 😁

The Russians and Ukrainians know how to deal with them😬

 

“It is a very bleak situation for trans people in Ukraine,” Faámelu said. “But in Russia, it’s even worse.”

 

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-03-03/lgbt-ukrainians-are-terrified-of-a-life-under-russia-where-homophobia

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1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

The alliance of pro-Russian Communists and Nazis fighting against Ukraine in Donbas
https://www.outono.net/elentir/2022/03/01/the-alliance-of-pro-russian-communists-and-nazis-fighting-against-ukraine-in-donbas/

 

 

 

I would say there is a big difference between having a few individuals slip through the ranks and mercs from different countries in 2014 fighting on your side versus having modern full paid battalions, political parties, police forces, and statues of prominent nazis in your country wouldn't you?

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10 hours ago, Tbone22 said:

 

 

 

I would say there is a big difference between having a few individuals slip through the ranks and mercs from different countries in 2014 fighting on your side versus having modern full paid battalions, political parties, police forces, and statues of prominent nazis in your country wouldn't you?

 

Oh, it's not meant to be whataboutism, and I don't even care about a nation having far-right groups. I'm just getting really concerned with these hypocrites. A lot of the crap they don't like, they actively promote in our countries when it suits them.

 

Ukraine glows too, I'm not taking that shit seriously. They would probably get roped under old school NatSocs.

 

Edit: Who do those Nazis in Ukraine benefit most? Obviously Russia. Western leaders hate Europeans being ethnonationalistic, so why I were they okay with it in the Ukraine? Because it plays into the West is the Great Satan narrative, and now dumb Russian boomers actually think we're satanic because it's all they hear about on their TV screens.

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On 4/11/2022 at 10:02 PM, Anti Facts Sir said:

I know what you mean mate. Within seconds of me saying to my old man that I wasn't convinced about either the vaccines or the Ukraine stuff, he flew into a rage. I was insulting his intelligence, apparently. Because obviously everyone involved is being 100% honest and the people running the media and the people in power are not trying to screw us over at all.

 

You need to cut them some slack. There near 24 hour propaganda going on both of those. It's very rare people who dont buy into it.

 

My sister, who wouldnt trust Boris to tell her the time, got very cross with me over my refusal to buy into vacinate or die. Family are very important I avoid topics that will make her cross. It's pointless I cant counter the combined might of the Govenment, its agencies and the media.

 

Truth will out. In time

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