SkyBlueEyes Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) @Certified Green of Heart Not sure there is a scarcity of Aliens, Just not gonna "Openly" reveal there selves,. ~You got to keep a Eye of those Teenagers next door that have Got Nuclear bombs and now know how to get out of there house. PS. your allowed to change your mind on anything, it is called "Womans Privilage" Edited January 9 by SkyBlueEyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 4 hours ago, monkeylove said: Manufactured scarcity is an argument based on the premise that the world is infinite. Your last statement doesn't address the thread topic. Manufactured scarcity is commonplace, the potato famine was created on purpose for instance. My last statement absolutely addresses the thread topic, the reason they do not openly appear is due to the top of the pyramid scrambling jets, shooting down and generally being aggressive towards visitors. So many instances they are referred to as "our little visitors". Its common place in military to have sightings. Read some documentation regarding the phenomena going back (in paper form within military) to at least 1940s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Certified Green of Heart Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 52 minutes ago, SkyBlueEyes said: ET will see thru the oil scam and think to there selves "They allow that type of Leadership to tell them how to think, Bunch of Morons". Yeah. but... what then can be learnt from the immediately more likely to prove interesting to [hopefully conscientious] humans below??.... Sorry I haven''t read it deeply on Wiki (but Abiotic for that part appears to be about natural processes anyway on that side of the equation), but anyway this piqued my interest...for the thing about Oil.... How it can be WHAT?? =Recycled or a sustainably obtained from source?? Huh?? Did I read that right, for the implied bit in the quote as here? >> 52 minutes ago, SkyBlueEyes said: Do you want to believe OIl is a Fossil fuel made from dinosaur bones and long dead trees or what it really is? A natural Abiotic product. Edited January 9 by Certified Green of Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Certified Green of Heart Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 35 minutes ago, SkyBlueEyes said: ~You got to keep a Eye of those Teenagers next door that have Got Nuclear bombs and now know how to get out of there house. but will it get them off their mobiles?? 35 minutes ago, SkyBlueEyes said: PS. your allowed to change your mind on anything, it is called "Womans Privilage" Thankyou!!!! as I am a man, which is equally changeable= CHEGELBANA.... (Genderism is all basicly rubbish though if I am honest, it serves some - ONE ROLE MAINLY -> A role in dating & copulation but I won't capitulate to copulating just off of that basis, unless I meet a woman like you that can steer me out of the gender maze first, hahaha....This doesn't with too much emphasis make me either gender, not even a pretend prima-donna, until letting consciousness free, then we can all be what the hell we like, that is my point....hehehe) Edited January 9 by Certified Green of Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueEyes Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 @Certified Green of Heart It is easy to describe as a bi-product of bacteria that thrives in deep undergound conditions were pressure is just right,, so you get different types of crude oil cause you got different types of bacteria at different pressures add water and viola .. sticky pooop... but i am simplifying, Abiotic is just a natural process and you are not allowed to ask were does "Oil come From?"... "Do not be silly , it comes out of a hole the ground" "I know that but how did it get there?" "Well errrr A very long time ago Dinosaurs died in large quantities and made Oil, you know like we used to harvest Whales for oil" "Yeah but Whale harvesting was never gonna fuel a fleet of London Taxi Cabs," It does not take to much to see thru a lie, when you question it but most of the time you take it for granted as the origanl propaganda was never questioned... "It's a UFO,,," "No it's a weather baloon" "oh ok I could of Sworn the blue flashing lights were a signal" "errr police car!!!" "ok, i saw a flying police car, errr that kinda makes sense, but i an Not USAF blue book ex-spert" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueEyes Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Certified Green of Heart said: Thankyou!!!! as I am a man, which is equally changeable= CHEGELBANA.... (Genderism is all basicly rubbish though if I am honest, it serves some - ONE ROLE MAINLY -> A role in dating & copulation but I won't capitulate to copulating just off of that basis, unless I meet a woman like you that can steer me out of the gender maze first, hahaha....This doesn't with too much emphasis make me either gender, not even a pretend prima-donna, until letting consciousness free, then we can all be what the hell we like, that is my point....hehehe) I never said you was a Woman, but you can change your mind, You big Woman .... Stubborness is man traits Hence they get sent off to fight other peoples wars and they are not allowed to change there mind and Say "I changed my mind, I wanna go home" but it I digress, We as A speicies, are "MAN"ipulated into being War like for the Purpose of Greed... ET won't touch that, tis a BAD virus in Cosmic Genepool.. Edited January 9 by SkyBlueEyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Certified Green of Heart Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 2 hours ago, SkyBlueEyes said: ex-spert Proficient in humor, that's good. "Experiential" is also a nice word. 2 hours ago, SkyBlueEyes said: We as A speicies Gender non-bias, that's good. ---- However, here's where the problem is with LOFTY MACHO MALES who cannot commit to an **open mind** ON ANYTHING !!>> [ As you pointed out BlueSkyEyes! ] Stubborness, Men and War, yes all go hand in hand. Literally like a Ratcheting Misinformed Psychopath with no emotional intelligence. This is why for any good aliens out there, I perceive and hope at least some of their kind will have some emotional intelligence way above the threshold of mankind or womankind for that matter although women do a lot better at this.... Not meaning to focus over-emphasis on gender here but the reality is what we see happen in among a lot of PROUD EGO male thinking in particular is just such a problem for reasoned emotion and reasoned intelligence IN SOME PEOPLE quite simply because they are not evolved enough to grasp alternatives to aggression & fighting. Many sorts of *thinking* in general takes time, soooo mistakenly counter to that ability and patience some people prefer mistakenly (especially when UNREASONED stubborness is involved) the "know no better people" live by raw or crude instincts which is to cut short on having to do thinking, that makes way for aggression etc instead.. Edited January 9 by Certified Green of Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Certified Green of Heart Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) ps, the only time I've heard of something close to ABIOTIC (which appears to be about mainly dead and decaying things) is today I THINK? (but still yum yum for bacteria to munch on and good for NATURAL Oil Bio-manufacture??) <<So We ALL Might Wanna LEARN MORE About This especially if true which I can understand IT MAYBE based on my gut feeling!! Not to be confused with AMNIOTIC (FLUID) as that refers to birthage - something to do with pregnant women and babies. (referring to living tissues or bio-processes in that scenario) Edited January 9 by Certified Green of Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueEyes Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 It is conditioning, all spieces that have binary gender male/female .. male protector farther - female carer mother.. does not matter which Earth bound speices you look at, that is the way... Males defend the terrority, females raise the young... Now that is being subverted by those that understand it and redfining the roles and what terrorities/tribes need defending.... And really it because every single one of us has gone thru indoctrination from birth, and taught you are this and you are that, you must support this and that is bad.. People are told what to think about every thing rather than going "Hold on, I can make my own mind up and I can pick my own fights".. When we as a Race decide to stop listening to those that tell you, who you are and what you must do, will be the day Peace breaks out and TPTB do not want that, as GREED for profit makes more money from 1 day of war than 10 years of peace.. If We could all live in peace then ET might OPENLY say "Hi Neighbour" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueEyes Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiotic_component Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Certified Green of Heart Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 15 minutes ago, SkyBlueEyes said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiotic_component Will this also help in gardening? Do you know any peace loving horticultural aliens? Here ya go people... Edited January 9 by Certified Green of Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueEyes Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 5 minutes ago, Certified Green of Heart said: Will this also help in gardening? Best ways to get great compost. 5 minutes ago, Certified Green of Heart said: Do you know any peace loving horticultural aliens? I have never met any to ask. I suspect they all, are after all, watering you garden in you fruit producing hydroponic bay in the back of you star jumper is way easier than cleaning up chicken poop for fresh fried eggs to have with your orange juce in the morning... But well speculation but it is all a choice and I guess they can make there own choice which resteraunt to go to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeylove Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 17 hours ago, SkyBlueEyes said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer's_water_fuel_cell Stanley Meyer Water Powered car, Lies and Death Read your own sources. The tech's in the public domain, so go ahead and wow us with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeylove Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 14 hours ago, SkyBlueEyes said: Finding New Oil In Long-exhausted Oil Wells Oil is a scam sciences, after all the same monoply men control science as they control the knowledge of extraterestal life forms.. Do you want to believe OIl is a Fossil fuel made from dinosaur bones and long dead trees or what it really is? A natural Abiotic product. What does that mean in terms of production. If I have a forrest and I Cut all the trees down, no more forrest and i have to wait 60 years for it to regrow again, if i chop down what i need when i need i will always have trees as they regenerate. Same with Oil if drain it of oil no more Oil, Wait 30 years and it is producing Oil again. But you are not allowed to think that as they want you trapped in the line of thinking that is Oil is a finite, when clearly they control the production and availability so they can control the price of how much you pay for it.. Same People, same Greed... ET will see thru the oil scam and think to there selves "They allow that type of Leadership to tell them how to think, Bunch of Morons". You can find new oil if you keep spending more energy, but it's a useless exercise because you extract oil for commercial purposes. And energy returns have been dropping since the 1970s, which is why global oil production per capita peaked way back in 1979. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeylove Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 14 hours ago, TheConsultant said: Manufactured scarcity is commonplace, the potato famine was created on purpose for instance. My last statement absolutely addresses the thread topic, the reason they do not openly appear is due to the top of the pyramid scrambling jets, shooting down and generally being aggressive towards visitors. So many instances they are referred to as "our little visitors". Its common place in military to have sightings. Read some documentation regarding the phenomena going back (in paper form within military) to at least 1940s So's non-manufactured scarcity. Guess why. Your argument makes no sense: given the point that they have more advanced tech, then they could easily counter any military threat from humans. In which case, if your point is that they find human beings barbaric, then that supports my argument: they gain nothing from visiting human beings openly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) 8 hours ago, monkeylove said: So's non-manufactured scarcity. Guess why. Your argument makes no sense: given the point that they have more advanced tech, then they could easily counter any military threat from humans. In which case, if your point is that they find human beings barbaric, then that supports my argument: they gain nothing from visiting human beings openly. Its not an argument, its a point of view and its also not about their scarcity, its kept from us to keep OUR manufactured and controlled scarcity as if people knew what was available technologically we wouldn't be living the way we do, at all. And you are thinking like a human, they are not aggressive, yes they could easily counter anything we have and they have shown this by disabling our nuclear weapons across the world in many installations on many continents, documented too. Why do they still visit, I am not them so I have no idea but it appears to be selective rather than openly at this point. But as all 'time and space' is interwoven and interconnected I would guess that nukes might penetrate realities/timelines/fabric of what we call space and time and so on some level that weaponry does affect them. I would also guess they do not wish for us to wipe ourselves out entirely. It is documented that we shoot them down, we aggress them for whatever reason and not a single time have they been aggressive back. Not once. Edited January 10 by TheConsultant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Certified Green of Heart Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) 11 hours ago, monkeylove said: Monkeylove said the below quote to The Consultant (I just happen to now be replying too, but to anybody) -- CGofH 11 hours ago, monkeylove said: So's non-manufactured scarcity. Guess why. Your argument makes no sense: given the point that they have more advanced tech, then they could easily counter any military threat from humans. In which case, if your point is that they find human beings barbaric, then that supports my argument: they gain nothing from visiting human beings openly. other than for sport, if they have any sort of kill for fun ideas about killing humans, lol. But in all realness, any alien life is not substantially BIOLOGIC anymore and perhaps long ago when it was??... and so probably MUCH MORE LIKELY resembles artificial "life" (oxymoron I know) by and large, but supposing as we would expect the alien intelligence is far greater than ours, (and yes in general the aliens have nothing to gain from us) their AI is maybe also a pragmatic one (work with me on this, I'm not saying like it- but is it possible?), and plus for aliens not engaging in emotive ideas that would make best overall sense. Like Revenge for example would be eliminated if aliens can quite easily already outsmart us by a million to one and (if emotive things were NOT an upsurging or relevant issue for them) and so could prevent any contemplation or need for revenge, soooo let's just be reasoned about this, that IF some aliens are a force for good,, then DEFENCE(or advanced pragmatic evasion) in face of human psychopaths is ONLY NECESSARY (or capable) for & by ALIENS from their POV with the upperhand in every way, as principally the biggest foul-up is SURELY only by humans and its' struggle with its' humanity or lack of... Transhumanists are also part of that UGLY picture. Oh and Greys, I know little, but I haven't forgotten them, I have seen that they never get portrayed as nothing other(?) than the predator sort of alien, then okay if that's true Humans there would be more on the defensive in that case. But whatever in context of aliens races etc I don't know anything for sure, except as a general notion what I am saying now to me seems most likely hence my use of BOLD (above). I wish it were different in space and here on Earth too, but we got what we got basicly until something extraordinary happens to help LIFE as we know it RE-EVOLVE and transform the way humanity AND visitors both behave!! (not to say aliens have to consider us special, but I only wish they would help in some way, and I guess I have noticed on the web some suggestions aliens may-?- have intervened, but I have not travelled the web widely enough to really know, however these are my honest thoughts about the real situation as I imagine one instance to be like!) Edited January 10 by Certified Green of Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueEyes Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 1/9/2023 at 3:36 PM, Certified Green of Heart said: Will this also help in gardening? Do you know any peace loving horticultural aliens? Here ya go people... Bacteria = Biotic : Oil = liquid mineral = Abiotic deep under ground "Bacteria" given water poops oil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueEyes Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) 16 hours ago, monkeylove said: Read your own sources. The tech's in the public domain, so go ahead and wow us with it. So, you still have no water powered car 16 hours ago, monkeylove said: And energy returns have been dropping since the 1970s, which is why global oil production per capita peaked way back in 1979. And that is what your told by the same people that won't let you have a water powered car. But well you can believe what you like and you believe what your told to believe because you can't think for your self. Edited January 10 by SkyBlueEyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Certified Green of Heart Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 The closest words to oil are boil and blood. Enough said... This oil talk could proove to be a slippery slope away from alien talk(s) even when we don't know their language to sing Bon Jovi to them, nevertheless we the minions have made an extra billion more PEACE signs than normal to help keep the peace between aliens and oil and serpents of satan and wars in general of mass incompetence, and other more holier wars more worth mentioning, *except not to mention here* and federal intervention of governmental interference committee, is waiting to consider why it is at a loss now we have found organic oil (no, not from orange oil) for now meanwhile the intergalactic alien federation of RELAXED ALIENS has made home in space for their kin-folk caught out on a mission to earth, and would heartily wish them to return....Let us kind humans give back their own and give intergalactic refuge for any aliens still captive on the Earth wanting to escape the Earth IMPRISONED by it's low vibration of whom put it there... Except once again, a quick note on the talking here, I think it's good to talk with humans of the same language, that could be, you or me, or that alien guy over there...(Don't tell him he is not human, he is not vaxxed you are all ok)... Anyway I think the aliens overall already are keeping as much away as they can, on a very long lunch break.... This can be as real or as fantasy as satisfies anybody's liking. I just offer some words, because I see what words my fingers make when I stop frowning, and thinking too much about problems... This when the mood is already down for Earth Peoples can only really work after say taking a long walk, like in the rain.. Fortunately as I did so too, I did not come across any mudslides on my walk, nor leaching out oils, however I would encourage and give some believe to Sky Blue Eyes, if we may wish to dig deeper and not expect us to go out and observe this natural oil reserve on the surface of the earths upper crust, depending on how you like your toast, I'm kidding.... Now for real, is the stuff down in the earth as deep as a cave may go deep? Please Answer me that!.... and what about traditional locations of Oil Wells.... Land or Ocean, does it make any difference by how it is usually brought up? as compared to what we suppose is always available and is presumably what we would call Organic Matter type of Oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueEyes Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) Oil type depends on the field of bacteria. Different depths different pressures, Closer to the surface less dense (light oil),,The Deeper you get it the thicker it is and requires more processing to extract the ingridents you need from it... NASA finds bacteria in a nuclear reactor, but you will not find it in an oil field if you do not look for it. https://gizmodo.com/bacteria-found-in-nuclear-reactors-could-be-the-secret-1843965129 But it is just how we on Earth get energy.. Wood, then vegi oil, then coal,whale oil, then came steam power which lead to industial revolution for mass production, then came oil out the ground and now we are addicted to oil, they want to shut down coal cause it is BAD for the enviroment (So we are told), increasing the demand for oil... Same Monoply men run the Enviromentalist movements. TPTB who keep the secrets of ET's existance, control the energy supply and all the new technoligies, will by any and all means nessacary, try to prevent tech. revolutions to bring us going to then next age of Human Spieces progress... ET will sit back and watch, not intervene nor steer. As A Race we must figure it out for ourselves and stop being war like as that is certain destruction of our current civilisation level... Back to the stone age again The new Adam & Eve will be getting a visit from ET and being told you got every thing you need here, Don't take a bite of the Nuclear Apple on your tree of knowledge and the rest of the heavens await you. Edited January 10 by SkyBlueEyes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeylove Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 13 hours ago, TheConsultant said: Its not an argument, its a point of view and its also not about their scarcity, its kept from us to keep OUR manufactured and controlled scarcity as if people knew what was available technologically we wouldn't be living the way we do, at all. And you are thinking like a human, they are not aggressive, yes they could easily counter anything we have and they have shown this by disabling our nuclear weapons across the world in many installations on many continents, documented too. Why do they still visit, I am not them so I have no idea but it appears to be selective rather than openly at this point. But as all 'time and space' is interwoven and interconnected I would guess that nukes might penetrate realities/timelines/fabric of what we call space and time and so on some level that weaponry does affect them. I would also guess they do not wish for us to wipe ourselves out entirely. It is documented that we shoot them down, we aggress them for whatever reason and not a single time have they been aggressive back. Not once. What technology? Why do you assume that only humans are aggressive? Finally, of course, you won't have documented evidence of them acting aggressively towards humans, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeylove Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 5 hours ago, SkyBlueEyes said: So, you still have no water powered car And that is what your told by the same people that won't let you have a water powered car. But well you can believe what you like and you believe what your told to believe because you can't think for your self. The tech is in the public domain. No one's stopping you now from proving your point. And in case that doesn't work, you can always argue that oil production per capita didn't peak. Go ahead and prove that, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Certified Green of Heart Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) 46 minutes ago, monkeylove said: Finally, of course, you won't have documented evidence of them acting aggressively towards humans, right? But he never said it needing to be proven in the negative, as how can you, coz if they haven't been aggressive back, nothing to record! Edited January 11 by Certified Green of Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueEyes Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, monkeylove said: The tech is in the public domain. No one's stopping you now from proving your point. Stan Myers patent is not in the public domain as are 10's of thousands of other patents that are deamed "National Security" and are removed from public perview... The concept is there but your never gonna get a waterpowered car.... 1 hour ago, monkeylove said: oil production per capita didn't peak. Go ahead and prove that, too There is a Hugh oil field in Alaska, bigger than Prudhoe Bay Oil Field.. It will never be opened as then you do Not have a controlled scarcity ... The Energy Non-Crisis - Pastor Lindsey Williams but your being cut off from oil by the puppet masters who control the current puppet. https://news.yahoo.com/biden-administration-suspends-oil-gas-230108323.html Edited January 11 by SkyBlueEyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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