screamingeagle Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, MarcusOmouse said: think that Joes probably on the right track. Or at least I think he's trying He can prove that by talking to David Icke imo???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusOmouse Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 1 minute ago, screamingeagle said: He can prove that by talking to David Icke imo???? Well sure he can , If he's ready to accept the concept that pathogenic viruses are a medical phallacy. How many of his audience could get that ? How many so called expert virologists could even entertain such a notion? What would that do, to both his ratings and his continued existence on spotify? I'm genuinely not sure, but has he interviewed RFK Junior yet ? ( Someone else who might find the above hard to accept) If he got that guy on the show, then from my perspective, he's on the right track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusOmouse Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 How about "The trucker movement"? Shills, Idiots, or genuine? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Rogan is controlled, very quick to defend Israel and Zionism if brought up. Also Laura Eisenhower and that David Rodriguez have gotta be new age shills. I’m surprised David Icke did a video with them recently, then again he has done videos with Sasha Stone and Charlie Ward. Kinda makes you wonder... Imo Sasha Stone - controlled shill, Charlie Ward - a tit & a shill. They all are designed to make us sit back and think someone else is gonna sort things out for us 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 I do love Brendon and since this topic has come up, he has subconsciously produced a video that may give some here a new perspective on their current heores. We've discussed a few shills here but o think Brendon covers a few more in a little more detail. And he's right by the way, we're all stuck in an echo chamber agreeing with each other without getting anything done. What do others think of Brendon's take? Personally I'm well sold on his thinking, no one is off the table in my opinion and his minimum standard of certain topical discussions to define these people is equally telling. If they don't talk about certain topics, as much as it may pain you, they're controlled opposition. I think this thread is good for us to expose the shills and keep a list of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hegel Schmegel Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Richard Syrett. Perhaps not well-known outside of North America, the guy's a long-time radio host/podcaster within the alt-media. Despite his podcast being called 'Conspiracy Unlimited' the majority of the show's episodes in recent years have tended to be obsessed with all things paranormal. Indeed, why discuss the New World Order, the climate change hoax, elite think tanks, para-politics, transhumanism, technocracy, and other insignificant things of this 'conspiratorial' nature (which he has hitherto only infrequently) when you can talk, ad nauseum, Bigfoot, Shadow People, ghosts, Grays, and hauntings, instead? Granted, there is the intellectually stimulating and substantial episode every now and then, but overall...what a waste of a podcast, that in name (only?) professes to be primarily focused on topics relating to conspiracy theories. Syrett also periodically guest-hosts on 'Coast to Coast' (which makes you wonder), which his podcast in recent years has become almost a carbon copy of. When he's 'on' (as he was quite a bit when he first started out) there's no better podcast(er) out there, but, in my opinion, of late these instances have become rare as the guy now seems to prefer the frivolous woo-woo over episodes devoted to discussing actual alt-media topics. In all these years he has never had David Icke or Jan Irvin on, as far as I know. That's not only mind-boggling, considering the name of his show(s), but rather suspicious, if you ask me. There are some topics he seems to shy away from: radical Islam, the Pedocracy, social engineering of the counterculture/rock music, ufology and its links to globalist elites/intelligence agencies, etc. No surprise there. After all, isn't discussing fairies, poltergeists, psi phenomena, time travel, hemp, the 'benefits' of robots and the Cloud, far more important? (Perhaps if Syrett changed the name of his show, to something like, I dunno, 'Paranormal Unlimited,' there would no longer be any reason to criticize.) He's also friends with Victor Viggiani, who is a frequent and boring guest on his weekly 'Conspiracy Show' and whose pet-topic is (yawn) UFO Disclosure. Viggiani, every time he's on, sounds to me like a broken record, repeating the same old stuff he's been saying for years, even without the help of a snooze button. (Refer to Charles Upton's latest book for more info on this general psyop that is UFO Disclosure.) At one point during the vaccine rollouts a few months ago, when it was next to impossible to leave and re-enter Canada (where Syrett resides) without a vaccine passport, the next thing you know he's over in Greece, away at his home away from home, despite his talk previous to this about being against taking the covid vaccines. Somehow he got around this, I suppose, by maybe taking swab tests in Canada and in Greece, or else he changed his stance on the vaccines (wouldn't surprise me) or else is a bull-shitter. There's a part of me that now thinks Syrett may be controlled opposition, working in cahoots with 'Coast to Coast' (i.e. more into offering mindless entertainment than anything else), and that he's maybe been 'gotten to.' But I still listen and continue to give him the benefit of the doubt, that he's a legitimate freedom-loving truth-seeker opposed to the NWO and not a poser, or a paid-off shill. (Questioning everything, here.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagon44 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 1:16 PM, Fluke said: I am turning into one of those annoying people who doesn't trust anyone. Tucker Carlson I would say shill. I have no faith in any of these well known entities. Shill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 my bedroom wall has seen so many posters ripped down over the years it breaks my heart to visit the old memories i have folded the torn posters up and left them in my memory box 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) Mate of ResistanceGB, Media Consumer is trying to spin here. In fact, isn't HE the CO, an informant? This is one of the tricks we know. The guilty always points a finger at elsewhere and claim the opposition is the guilty one. www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxPct8qPn7E He's onto @GarethIcke as well. www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0ykplUfWQs Edited March 22, 2022 by DaleP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/funding Funded by www.opensocietyfoundations.org/who-we-are Silkie Carlo aka Big Brother Watch funded by George Soros? LOL The lot of them. Go fck yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Retriever Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Why are David Icke's videos still promoting Alex Jones, or must we all be silent about this? Listen to the Alex Jones Advertisement, before most of David's videos. https://davidicke.com/2022/03/18/how-long-before-these-mass-killers-go-to-jail-for-life-we-must-never-forget-david-icke-dot-connector-videocast/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Retriever Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 2:16 PM, Fluke said: I am turning into one of those annoying people who doesn't trust anyone. Tucker Carlson I would say shill. I have no faith in any of these well known entities. How am I out of likes with the increase? You are right to question most of the so called alternative media. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said: How am I out of likes with the increase? I am off topic here but .... I will see if we can get it raised again :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Retriever Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ink said: I am off topic here but .... I will see if we can get it raised again :) I thought I read the number of reactions had been raised to 30 in a 24 hour period. There is no way I have made 30 reactions in the last 24 hours. Personally I think 30 is too high. Maybe a compromise of 15. Sorry off topic, but I can't be bothered to find the right thread. Edited March 22, 2022 by Golden Retriever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 31 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said: Why are David Icke's videos still promoting Alex Jones, or must we all be silent about this? can't you 'show your working' as to why you dislike alex jones without bringing the ickes into this? The ickes are busy building a complete replacement for the mainstream media system. That's a pretty ambitious project but its exactly the kind of thinking we need, which is to say to stop asking the corporate system to change and be more honest but instead to simply turn our back on it and to construct an entirely new parallel system However that stuff needs to be funded. The corporate system funds itself by adverts of corporate produced products that aren't even made by the corporations themselves but by public relations corporations who employ actors and hackneyed phrases and themes to emotionally manipulate the viewer If an independent media system is to develop it needs a revenue stream and much of that comes from crowd funding ie 'subscriptions' which is great but how much do we want these things to expand and succeed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metak88 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 32 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said: Why are David Icke's videos still promoting Alex Jones, or must we all be silent about this? Listen to the Alex Jones Advertisement, before most of David's videos. https://davidicke.com/2022/03/18/how-long-before-these-mass-killers-go-to-jail-for-life-we-must-never-forget-david-icke-dot-connector-videocast/ That's not DI promoting AJ, that's AJ promoting himself and his platform (BANNED.video) where DI uploads his videos. If you're not using an ad-blocker you'll see those AJ ads on other channels/videos, not just DIs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Retriever Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, metak88 said: That's not DI promoting AJ, that's AJ promoting himself and his platform (BANNED.video) where DI uploads his videos. If you're not using an ad-blocker you'll see those AJ ads on other channels/videos, not just DIs. But it's not just that Metak88 Many people question Alex Jones links with Israel and Zionism in general, but David Icke continues to do interviews with him, this as recently as last month. Yes, the subject is a good one, but are you and @Macnamarasupporters of Alex Jones who imo is a Zionist shill and if so why? https://davidicke.com/2022/02/21/trucker-protest-pivotal-to-exposing-fascist-tyranny-david-icke-talks-to-alex-jones/ Trucker Protest Pivotal To Exposing Fascist Tyranny – David Icke Talks To Alex Jones Edited March 22, 2022 by Golden Retriever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Retriever Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Macnamara said: can't you 'show your working' as to why you dislike alex jones without bringing the ickes into this? The ickes are busy building a complete replacement for the mainstream media system. That's a pretty ambitious project but its exactly the kind of thinking we need, which is to say to stop asking the corporate system to change and be more honest but instead to simply turn our back on it and to construct an entirely new parallel system However that stuff needs to be funded. The corporate system funds itself by adverts of corporate produced products that aren't even made by the corporations themselves but by public relations corporations who employ actors and hackneyed phrases and themes to emotionally manipulate the viewer If an independent media system is to develop it needs a revenue stream and much of that comes from crowd funding ie 'subscriptions' which is great but how much do we want these things to expand and succeed? That's not addressing the question. "David needs to be funded" you said. Yes he does I suppose, but not from the likes of Alex Jones. Alex Jones is well known to be a Zionist suppoting Israel and David is not. But David has often supported Alex Jones as recently as last month. Trucker Protest Pivotal To Exposing Fascist Tyranny – David Icke Talks To Alex Jones https://davidicke.com/2022/02/21/trucker-protest-pivotal-to-exposing-fascist-tyranny-david-icke-talks-to-alex-jones/ Edited March 22, 2022 by Golden Retriever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metak88 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 20 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said: But it's not just that Metak88 Many people question Alex Jones links with Israel and Zionism in general, but David Icke continues to do interviews with him, this as recently as last month. Yes, the subject is a good one, but are you and @Macnamarasupporters of Alex Jones who imo is a Zionist shill and if so why? https://davidicke.com/2022/02/21/trucker-protest-pivotal-to-exposing-fascist-tyranny-david-icke-talks-to-alex-jones/ Trucker Protest Pivotal To Exposing Fascist Tyranny – David Icke Talks To Alex Jones I was mostly just addressing the point about the AJ ads before the DI videos on banned.video. They're present on other channels/videos hosted on infowars created platform banned.video. In that way it's not DI promoting AJ. As for your main issue why does he still do interviews with AJ? Large audience probably? Don't watch him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Retriever Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, metak88 said: I was mostly just addressing the point about the AJ ads before the DI videos on banned.video. They're present on other channels/videos hosted on infowars created platform banned.video. In that way it's not DI promoting AJ. As for your main issue why does he still do interviews with AJ? Large audience probably? Don't watch him... In that interview David icke labours the point about fascism, which is exactly what the MSM does! One could argue there are not many differences between fascism and communism, but David keeps talking about Nazis, thus imo reinforcing the Holocaust, Jews are victims narrative. Imo it would be prefereable to use the term totalitarianism which Robert Kennedy Junior used in his famous speech in Berlin August 2020, which most of the media ignored. It is reported a million Germans attended. Edited March 22, 2022 by Golden Retriever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjamson Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 In order to save yourself time, simply assume EVERYONE is either an overt shill, financially, legally and/or personally compromised, or simply not knowledgeable to be considered a credible source. Now, you've eliminated at least 99% of all public figures. This is not to say that that 99% is spouting lies 24/7. Anything but. What it DOES mean is that some or many of their fundamental premises and assumptions are completely wrong therefore rendering anything they discuss on or related to that/those particular topic/s pointless. Let's take an American example: ted and austin broer. I believe they genuinely believe what they 'preach.' The problem is, a lot of is just completely wrong. They believe, without merit or basis in fact that: a. covid is real b. that it is deadly c. and that vitamins help you to recover from covid All of these premises are false for obvious reasons. No transmissible virus has ever been isolated, therefore it goes without saying that non existent objects cannot possibly kill, and therefore taking supplements cannot possibly protect you from something that does not exist. Sadly, even though the broers especially ted, cites a lot of david's work (almost always without citation), they profit from the same problem reaction solution model they claim the elites exploit. Even public figures I have a lot of respect for, including David Icke, make lots and lots of mistakes or pass off (or at least attempt to) conjecture as fact. For example, David Icke regularly cites out of body experiences as if they were factual, but the reality is, researchers, some quite sympathetic to the claim, have never been able to verify even a single instance of such. I could cite dozens of such examples from david's work where there is simply no direct evidence to support his claims. Nonetheless, I still respect those facts that he DOES get right, and in this particular case, he's spot on with regards to the corona hoax. The difference is, david is not as compromised by his sponsors and/or family ties like Tucker or Alex Jones are. The point is, his intent is different. Tucker, Alex, Jordan Peterson etc are all ultimately dependent upon their masters for a paycheck and a platform, whereas david is not. I don't think ted and austin are compromised in this way either, they just happen to get the facts wrong on their own without any prodding. Multiple paths to the same disinfo I suppose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Retriever Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, jjjamson said: The difference is, david is not as compromised by his sponsors and/or family ties like Tucker or Alex Jones are. The point is, his intent is different. Tucker, Alex, Jordan Peterson etc are all ultimately dependent upon their masters for a paycheck and a platform, whereas david is not. That's not entirely true. David uses Amazon to sell his books. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjamson Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 The difference is, David doesn't necessarily rely on amazon for a living. He sells on other platforms, including his own website, and has other revenue streams aside from book sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Retriever Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Just now, jjjamson said: The difference is, David doesn't necessarily rely on amazon for a living. He sells on other platforms, including his own website, and has other revenue streams aside from book sales. I betcha most of his book revenues comes from Amazon. Hard to prove. Only he knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjamson Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) I don't know if that's the case. Again, pure speculation mainly to defame him. It could be waterstones, amazon, ickonic, or in the past his live shows. Do you have the figures to back up any of your claims? No. Also, it's very naive to think in such black and white terms. Life is never that clear cut. The disinfo agents I speak of, or the independent operators who make major, fundamental errors, still get a lot right. I've met hardcore pathological liars who say common sensical, factually correct things from time to time as well. Edited March 22, 2022 by jjjamson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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