The Jungle Book as an allegory for political society & the conflicts between man & nature

[Macnamara]

3 minutes ago, RobSS said:

You may have misunderstood what he said.

 

no he waxes lyrical about it

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

and whilst the satanists jabbed their gene altering poison into my countrymen and women, where are all the good freemasons pushing back against that?

 

the top hospitals are a hotbed of freemasonry

 

May be some are pushing back but you just don't know about it. It's only speculation.

 

[RobSS]

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

no he waxes lyrical about it

 

Then where's the quote?

 

[Macnamara]

4 minutes ago, RobSS said:

May be some are pushing back but you just don't know about it. It's only speculation.

[RobSS]

6 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

You're talking about contemporary times where everything is being revealed, but before the Internet, 20 years ago and more going back centuries, members of Freemasonry could go through their whole life without knowing what they were really involved with. If Kipling were alive today, would he still be a member? I very much doubt it because too much is known.

 

Edited January 22, 2022 by RobSS

[Macnamara]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

You're talking about contemporary times where everything is being revealed, but before the Internet, 20 years ago and more going back centuries, members of Freemasonry could go through their whole life without knowing what they were really involved with. If Kipling were alive today, would he still be a member? I very much doubt it because too much is known.

 

i think he'd be advancing the freemasonic empire just as he was then:

 

"The White Man's Burden" (1899), by Rudyard Kipling, is a poem about the Philippine–American War (1899–1902) that exhorts the United States to assume colonial control of the Filipino people and their country.^[1] Originally written to celebrate the Diamond Jubilee of Queen Victoria (22 June 1897), the jingoistic poem was replaced with the sombre "Recessional" (1897), also a Kipling poem about empire.

In "The White Man's Burden", Kipling encouraged the American annexation and colonization of the Philippine Islands, a Pacific Ocean archipelago conquered in the three-month Spanish–American War (1898).^[1] As an imperialist poet, Kipling exhorts the American reader and listener to take up the enterprise of empire, yet warns about the personal costs faced, endured, and paid in building an empire;^[1] nonetheless, American imperialists understood the phrase "the white man’s burden" to justify imperial conquest as a mission-of-civilisation that is ideologically related to the continental-expansion philosophy of manifest destiny of the early 19th century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Man's_Burden

 

[RobSS]

2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

i think he'd be advancing the freemasonic empire just as he was then:

 

"The White Man's Burden" (1899), by Rudyard Kipling, is a poem about the Philippine–American War (1899–1902) that exhorts the United States to assume colonial control of the Filipino people and their country.^[1] Originally written to celebrate the Diamond Jubilee of Queen Victoria (22 June 1897), the jingoistic poem was replaced with the sombre "Recessional" (1897), also a Kipling poem about empire.

In "The White Man's Burden", Kipling encouraged the American annexation and colonization of the Philippine Islands, a Pacific Ocean archipelago conquered in the three-month Spanish–American War (1898).^[1] As an imperialist poet, Kipling exhorts the American reader and listener to take up the enterprise of empire, yet warns about the personal costs faced, endured, and paid in building an empire;^[1] nonetheless, American imperialists understood the phrase "the white man’s burden" to justify imperial conquest as a mission-of-civilisation that is ideologically related to the continental-expansion philosophy of manifest destiny of the early 19th century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Man's_Burden

 

 

His intentions may have been honourable, although I'd argue that he was wrong to take that view, but what you've posted doesn't prove that he was a bad or evil person. He just had certain political views. It's a feature of democracy. 

 

[Macnamara]

Just now, RobSS said:

His intentions may have been honourable, although I'd argue that he was wrong to take that view, but what you've posted doesn't prove that he was a bad or evil person. He just had certain political views. It's a feature of democracy.

 

Visit to south africa

 

In early 1898, the Kiplings travelled to South Africa for their winter holiday, so beginning an annual tradition which (except the following year) would last until 1908. They would stay in "The Woolsack", a house on Cecil Rhodes's estate at Groote Schuur (now a student residence for the University of Cape Town), within walking distance of Rhodes' mansion.^[48]

With his new reputation as Poet of the Empire, Kipling was warmly received by some of the influential politicians of the Cape Colony, including Rhodes, Sir Alfred Milner, and Leander Starr Jameson. Kipling cultivated their friendship and came to admire the men and their politics. The period 1898–1910 was crucial in the history of South Africa and included the Second Boer War (1899–1902), the ensuing peace treaty, and the 1910 formation of the Union of South Africa. Back in England, Kipling wrote poetry in support of the British cause in the Boer War and on his next visit to South Africa in early 1900, became a correspondent for The Friend newspaper in Bloemfontein, which had been commandeered by Lord Roberts for British troops.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudyard_Kipling

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

Visit to south africa

 

In early 1898, the Kiplings travelled to South Africa for their winter holiday, so beginning an annual tradition which (except the following year) would last until 1908. They would stay in "The Woolsack", a house on Cecil Rhodes's estate at Groote Schuur (now a student residence for the University of Cape Town), within walking distance of Rhodes' mansion.^[48]

With his new reputation as Poet of the Empire, Kipling was warmly received by some of the influential politicians of the Cape Colony, including Rhodes, Sir Alfred Milner, and Leander Starr Jameson. Kipling cultivated their friendship and came to admire the men and their politics. The period 1898–1910 was crucial in the history of South Africa and included the Second Boer War (1899–1902), the ensuing peace treaty, and the 1910 formation of the Union of South Africa. Back in England, Kipling wrote poetry in support of the British cause in the Boer War and on his next visit to South Africa in early 1900, became a correspondent for The Friend newspaper in Bloemfontein, which had been commandeered by Lord Roberts for British troops.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudyard_Kipling

 

I'm sure Rhodes may have had a lot of guests who were popular figures like Kipling. It doesn't mean to say that Kipling was part of the inner circle or complicit in anything bad or evil.

 

[Macnamara]

Cecil rhodes was bankrolled by the rothschilds to create the de beers diamond company which then profited from 'blood diamonds'. The worlds dimond trade is largely controlled by jews

 

In his will rhodes left his profits for the creation of a secret society to expand the freemasonic empire. This society has been called many names including the 'milner group' and out of it came chatham house and its sister body in the US the council on foreign relations

 

David rockefeller was the chairman of the council on foreign relations and bill gates father worked closely with the rocekfellers. Bill gates father was head of planned parenthood which had its roots in eugenics under margaret sanger who was helping to abort black babies

 

david rockefeller created the club of rome thinktank to strategise ways to curb environmental impacts of humanity through population reduction and bill gates gave talks about how the global population could be reduced and he mentioned vaccines as one of the methods that could be used

 

The milner clique also took britain into world war 1 and james corbett has made a documentary looking at that

 

That whole illuminated-freemasonic clique whose politics kipling admired, are the people behind colonialism, globalism, the covid scamdemic and the 'great reset'

[Macnamara]

5 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

I'm sure Rhodes may have had a lot of guests who were popular figures like Kipling. It doesn't mean to say that Kipling was part of the inner circle or complicit in anything bad or evil.

 

they employed him as a propagandist to sell the boer war to the british people

[RobSS]

7 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

Cecil rhodes was bankrolled by the rothschilds to create the de beers diamond company which then profited from 'blood diamonds'. The worlds dimond trade is largely controlled by jews

 

In his will rhodes left his profits for the creation of a secret society to expand the freemasonic empire. This society has been called many names including the 'milner group' and out of it came chatham house and its sister body in the US the council on foreign relations

 

David rockefeller was the chairman of the council on foreign relations and bill gates father worked closely with the rocekfellers. Bill gates father was head of planned parenthood which had its roots in eugenics under margaret sanger who was helping to abort black babies

 

david rockefeller created the club of rome thinktank to strategise ways to curb environmental impacts of humanity through population reduction and bill gates gave talks about how the global population could be reduced and he mentioned vaccines as one of the methods that could be used

 

The milner clique also took britain into world war 1 and james corbett has made a documentary looking at that

 

That whole illuminated-freemasonic clique whose politics kipling admired, are the people behind colonialism, globalism, the covid scamdemic and the 'great reset'

6 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

they employed him as a propagandist to sell the boer war to the british people

 

You disagree with his political views, it doesn't make him evil. People are often corrupted by power and political dreams. It's possible he wrote the Jungle Book as a means of escapism so he could explore his dreams and fantasies imagining living in a less corrupt world. In my summary of "The Jungle Book" I was exploring the metaphorical themes and ideas in that story. The debate about Kipling's politics is another subject.

 

Edited January 23, 2022 by RobSS

[Macnamara]

His next job was to help the milner group foment a war between britain and germany through the demonisation of the kaiser.

 

To learn more about the lies said about the kaiser listen to the following podcast:

Episode 350 - History Is Written By The Winners

https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-350-history-is-written-by-the-winners/

 

In a 1902 poem, The Rowers, Kipling attacked the Kaiser as a threat to Britain and made the first use of the term "Hun" as an anti-German insult, using Wilhelm's own words and the actions of German troops in China to portray Germans as essentially barbarian.^[59] In an interview with the French newspaper Le Figaro, the Francophile Kipling called Germany a menace and called for an Anglo-French alliance to stop it.^[59] In another letter at the same time, Kipling described the "unfrei peoples of Central Europe" as living in "the Middle Ages with machine guns"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudyard_Kipling

[RobSS]

3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

His next job was to help the milner group foment a war between britain and germany through the demonisation of the kaiser.

 

To learn more about the lies said about the kaiser listen to the following podcast:

Episode 350 - History Is Written By The Winners

https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-350-history-is-written-by-the-winners/

 

In a 1902 poem, The Rowers, Kipling attacked the Kaiser as a threat to Britain and made the first use of the term "Hun" as an anti-German insult, using Wilhelm's own words and the actions of German troops in China to portray Germans as essentially barbarian.^[59] In an interview with the French newspaper Le Figaro, the Francophile Kipling called Germany a menace and called for an Anglo-French alliance to stop it.^[59] In another letter at the same time, Kipling described the "unfrei peoples of Central Europe" as living in "the Middle Ages with machine guns"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudyard_Kipling

 

This thread is about "The Jungle Book", not his other poems.

 

[Macnamara]

4 minutes ago, RobSS said:

You disagree with his political views, it doesn't make him evil. People are often corrupted by power and political dreams. It's possible he wrote the Jungle Book as a means of escapism so he could explore his dreams and fantasies imagining living in a less corrupt world. In my summary of "The Jungle Book" I was exploring the metaphorical themes and ideas in that story. The debate about Kipling's politics is another subject.

 

I haven't expressed a judgement either way on his political views. I'm just explaining to you where he fits into the conspiracy:

Freemasonry

According to the English magazine Masonic Illustrated, Kipling became a Freemason in about 1885, before the usual minimum age of 21,^[71] being initiated into Hope and Perseverance Lodge No. 782 in Lahore. He later wrote to The Times, "I was Secretary for some years of the Lodge... which included Brethren of at least four creeds. I was entered [as an Apprentice] by a member from Brahmo Somaj, a Hindu, passed [to the degree of Fellow Craft] by a Mohammedan, and raised [to the degree of Master Mason] by an Englishman. Our Tyler was an Indian Jew." Kipling received not only the three degrees of Craft Masonry but also the side degrees of Mark Master Mason and Royal Ark Mariner.^[72]

Kipling so loved his Masonic experience that he memorialised its ideals in his poem "The Mother Lodge", ^[71] and used the fraternity and its symbols as vital plot devices in his novella The Man Who Would Be King.^[73]

First World War (1914–1918)

At the beginning of the First World War, like many other writers, Kipling wrote pamphlets and poems enthusiastically supporting the UK war aims of restoring Belgium, after it had been occupied by Germany, together with generalised statements that Britain was standing up for the cause of good. In September 1914, Kipling was asked by the government to write propaganda, an offer that he accepted.^[74] Kipling's pamphlets and stories were popular with the British people during the war, his major themes being to glorify the British military as the place for heroic men to be, while citing German atrocities against Belgian civilians and the stories of women brutalised by a horrific war unleashed by Germany, yet surviving and triumphing in spite of their suffering.^[74]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudyard_Kipling

 

[Macnamara]

Just now, RobSS said:

This thread is about "The Jungle Book", not his other poems.

 

this forum is about the conspiracy

 

if you disagree with that statement you are free to contact the ickes and have them read this thread and see if there is a problem here

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

I haven't expressed a judgement either way on his political views. I'm just explaining to you where he fits into the conspiracy:

Freemasonry

According to the English magazine Masonic Illustrated, Kipling became a Freemason in about 1885, before the usual minimum age of 21,^[71] being initiated into Hope and Perseverance Lodge No. 782 in Lahore. He later wrote to The Times, "I was Secretary for some years of the Lodge... which included Brethren of at least four creeds. I was entered [as an Apprentice] by a member from Brahmo Somaj, a Hindu, passed [to the degree of Fellow Craft] by a Mohammedan, and raised [to the degree of Master Mason] by an Englishman. Our Tyler was an Indian Jew." Kipling received not only the three degrees of Craft Masonry but also the side degrees of Mark Master Mason and Royal Ark Mariner.^[72]

Kipling so loved his Masonic experience that he memorialised its ideals in his poem "The Mother Lodge", ^[71] and used the fraternity and its symbols as vital plot devices in his novella The Man Who Would Be King.^[73]

First World War (1914–1918)

At the beginning of the First World War, like many other writers, Kipling wrote pamphlets and poems enthusiastically supporting the UK war aims of restoring Belgium, after it had been occupied by Germany, together with generalised statements that Britain was standing up for the cause of good. In September 1914, Kipling was asked by the government to write propaganda, an offer that he accepted.^[74] Kipling's pamphlets and stories were popular with the British people during the war, his major themes being to glorify the British military as the place for heroic men to be, while citing German atrocities against Belgian civilians and the stories of women brutalised by a horrific war unleashed by Germany, yet surviving and triumphing in spite of their suffering.^[74]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudyard_Kipling

 

 

These are all political issues. It doesn't prove that Kipling himself was a bad or evil man.

 

[Macnamara]

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 Kipling was asked by the government to write propaganda, an offer that he accepted.^[74] Kipling's pamphlets and stories were popular with the British people during the war, his major themes being to glorify the British military as the place for heroic men to be

 

and some of my relatives were killed in that war. I have their citations

[RobSS]

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

this forum is about the conspiracy

 

if you disagree with that statement you are free to contact the ickes and have them read this thread and see if there is a problem here

 

That's why I find "The Jungle Book" so fascinating because it exposes the Masonic conspiracy.

 

[Macnamara]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

That's why I find "The Jungle Book" so fascinating because it exposes the Masonic conspiracy.

 

no it doesn't

 

kipling was a key figure WITHIN the masonic conspiracy

 

kipling was aiding and abetting the rothschild cabal but don't be fooled by the wording in cecil rhodes will about his desire to build an 'anglo' empire. The anglo saxons were themselves already enslaved under the freemasonic empire and the goal was to expand the freemasonic empire

 

if that is not the case then why was britain so aggressive in jabbing its own population with these covid clotshots?

 

why have the countries often said to be in the 'anglo-sphere' ie the 5 eyes countries plus the US been so aggressive at jabbing their populations?

 

surely if the goal was to destroy non anglo people whilst leaving the anglos the only people left then they would not have done this and the reason is because it isn't anglos controlling the conspiracy it is sabbatean-jews such as the rothschilds

[RobSS]

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

no it doesn't

 

kipling was a key figure WITHIN the masonic conspiracy

 

kipling was aiding and abetting the rothschild cabal but don't be fooled by the wording in cecil rhodes will about his desire to build an 'anglo' empire. The anglo saxons were themselves already enslaved under the freemasonic empire and the goal was to expand the freemasonic empire

 

if that is not the case then why was britain so aggressive in jabbing its own population with these covid clotshots?

 

why have the countries often said to be in the 'anglo-sphere' ie the 5 eyes countries plus the US been so aggressive at jabbing their populations?

 

surely if the goal was to destroy non anglo people whilst leaving the anglos the only people left then they would not have done this and the reason is because it isn't anglos controlling the conspiracy it is sabbatean-jews such as the rothschilds

 

Kipling may have been suffering from a split personality. I think "The Jungle Book" was his cris de coeur from within his soul, in a world that he knew was corrupt but he was a prisoner of his ego outwardly going along with things but having an inner spiritual struggle.

 

 

[Macnamara]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

Kipling may have been suffering from a split personality. I think "The Jungle Book" was his cris de coeur from within his soul, in a world that he knew was corrupt but he was a prisoner of his ego outwardly going along with things but having an inner spiritual struggle.

 

are you talking about kipling or yourself?

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

are you talking about kipling or yourself?

 

I've already given evidence "The Jungle Book" exposes the agenda.

 

[Macnamara]

11 minutes ago, RobSS said:

I've already given evidence "The Jungle Book" exposes the agenda.

 

i've just scanned this thread and i can't see any

 

what i did see was information i posted about how kipling supported so many planks of the rothschild cabal that saw europe devastated by two wars and our people injected with the covid clotshots

[RobSS]

22 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

i've just scanned this thread and i can't see any

 

Already posted in this thread:

 

Shere Khan and the Sons of Cain

 

 

The 1942 Technicolor action-adventure film version of "The Jungle Book", directed by Zoltan Korda exposes the conspiracy best, although other versions also have merits, Shere Khan is portrayed as Cain, who as described in the book of Genesis, killed his brother, Able. In the introduction to the film, the narrator describes Shere Khan:

"The Tiger - the killer the man eater, the villain who first brought murder to the jungle clan - Shere Khan.

It's said that in his first kill, when he was Cain to some poor Able of the glades, when he ran from the scene of his crime, the trees and creepers whipped him with their branches and striped his yellow hide with the mark of Cain. This evil lord must have his dish-lickers his bullies for attendants; the jackal and the hyena, hungry for the scraps of the murderous master's feast." (from the 1942 version of "The Jungle Book", directed by Zoltan Korda)

Max Heindel, an American occultist, astrologer, mystic and Rosicrucian, wrote that Freemasonry originated with Cain, who was "the son of a widow". He wrote, "They have lost their spiritual sight and are imprisoned in the forehead of the body where it is said Cain was marked; they must wander as prodigal sons in the comparative darkness of the material world, oblivious to their high and noble estate..."

At the end of the Disney story, the jungle is severely damaged by a fire. Mowgli is confronted by Shere Khan, but Mowgli sets fire to his tail. Shere Khan, terrified of fire, runs away.

Edited January 23, 2022 by RobSS