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The Jungle Book as an allegory for political society & the conflicts between man & nature


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15 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

You want to blame, blame blame, blame, and look at Kipling and the cult of personality, which is really about you, but how does Mowgli manipulate anyone?

 

it wouldn't be mowgli manipulating people though would it? It would be the author kipling

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13 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

you have spoken about wagners operas and the grail quest and what it means to you which is to say that you see it as a portal to the next age

 

 

 

 

So what? Jesus Christ also spoke about the end of this age and the coming of his Kingdom.

 

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Just now, RobSS said:

That's very vague, but that's not the subject of this thread. I hope this isn't the start of trolling again.

 

no i'm not 'trolling' we are discussing the issue of moral reletavism and you accused me of wanting people to go to jail so i'm asking you if you think anyone should ever go to jail because i think you are making an empty insult to smear my character

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5 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

ah i see......so only the people that YOU want in prison should go to prison right? yes that's how moral reletavism works

 

No.

 

5 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

so should bill gates go to prison rob?

 

Yes, I think Bill Gates should go to prison. Now stop changing the subject of this thread and stop trolling, thanks.

 

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5 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

the thread isn't specifically about mowgli it is about the purpose behind 'jungle book' ie:

 

'The Jungle Book as an allegory for political society & the conflicts between man & nature'

 

So what is it in the story that you have something to say about?

 

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Just now, RobSS said:

Yes, I think Bill Gates should go to prison. Now stop changing the subject of this thread and stop trolling, thanks.

 

right so you DO think people should be in prison so stop trying to take some sort of moral high ground that you don't have

 

the only issue then is WHICH people should be in prison right? If you decide your own reality then you get to decide who goes into prison and that then becomes subjective which is what happens with every tyranny in history

 

If however you think that people who are objectively immoral should go to prison then you will only lock up the guilty regardless of whether you like them or loath them and that would be justice wouldn't it?

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4 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

it wouldn't be mowgli manipulating people though would it? It would be the author kipling

 

But this thread is about the story, otherwise you're trolling and disrupting the thread.

 

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1 minute ago, RobSS said:

 

So what is it in the story that you have something to say about?

 

I already told you that part is more complex and would need deeper research but the part i DO have context on is the author and his politics

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4 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

no i'm not 'trolling' we are discussing the issue of moral reletavism and you accused me of wanting people to go to jail so i'm asking you if you think anyone should ever go to jail because i think you are making an empty insult to smear my character

 

Yes, I've said that Bill Gates should go to jail. Now either discuss the subject of this thread and the story or do your own thread on who you think should be blamed and sent to jail. Thanks.

 

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1 minute ago, RobSS said:

 

But this thread is about the story, otherwise you're trolling and disrupting the thread.

 

then what is to stop anyone coming onto the forum and starting a thread promotting the covid jabs whilst taunting anyone who discusses who is behind the covid jabs as being 'trolls' that should shut up and leave their thread?

 

this isn't actually the 'things rob likes' forum. This is the conspiracy forum

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1 minute ago, RobSS said:

 

Yes, I've said that Bill Gates should go to jail. Now either discuss the subject of this thread and the story or do your own thread on who you think should be blamed and sent to jail. Thanks.

 

stop being so petty that was all within the context of our discussion which covered the issue of moral reletavism. Bill gates was used as an example to illustrate a point

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2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

right so you DO think people should be in prison so stop trying to take some sort of moral high ground that you don't have

 

the only issue then is WHICH people should be in prison right? If you decide your own reality then you get to decide who goes into prison and that then becomes subjective which is what happens with every tyranny in history

 

If however you think that people who are objectively immoral should go to prison then you will only lock up the guilty regardless of whether you like them or loath them and that would be justice wouldn't it?

 

I've got nothing against justice and sending people to prison, but that's all you seem to want to talk about and it's not the subject of this thread which is the Story.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

No, but there's no harm in discussing what Christ taught.

 

but you aren't discussing what christ taught, you were discussing a portal through the work of wagner and correct me if i'm wrong but that wasn't in the bible?

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Just now, RobSS said:

I've got nothing against justice and sending people to prison, but that's all you seem to want to talk about and it's not the subject of this thread which is the Story.

 

stop criticising me for discussing the conspiracy on a conspiracy forum! that's absurd

 

maybe you need to go to the kipling appreciation society if you don't want people to discuss the conspiracy here

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4 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

I already told you that part is more complex and would need deeper research but the part i DO have context on is the author and his politics

 

Then have a think about the story, and when you think you have something to say, I'd be delighted and hopefully might learn something, but you can start your own thread on the personality of Kipling and his private/public life - the author and his politics - like you did with Tolkien. Is that okay?

 

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2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

Then have a think about the story, and when you think you have something to say, I'd be delighted and hopefully might learn something, but you can start your own thread on the personality of Kipling and his private/public life - the author and his politics - like you did with Tolkien. Is that okay?

 

yes but why talk about it at all here if you don't want to discuss the conspiracy?

 

this thread is in the 'politics and social engineering' subsection of the forum for goodness sake!

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2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

but you aren't discussing what christ taught, you were discussing a portal through the work of wagner and correct me if i'm wrong but that wasn't in the bible?

 

Wagner was also exploring the message Jesus Christ gave and yes, the idea of a portal is implied in the Bible because obviously, there must be some connection between material reality and spiritual reality, hence a portal, and Jesus Christ himself said that there are still more things, in time, to learn.

 

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4 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

stop criticising me for discussing the conspiracy on a conspiracy forum! that's absurd

 

maybe you need to go to the kipling appreciation society if you don't want people to discuss the conspiracy here

 

 

2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

yes but why talk about it at all here if you don't want to discuss the conspiracy?

 

this thread is in the 'politics and social engineering' subsection of the forum for goodness sake!

 

 

The story does expose the conspiracy but you don't even want to talk about that. You just want to talk about Kipling and his politics, which is fine, but you can do that in your own thread.

 

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Just now, RobSS said:

Wagner was also exploring the message Jesus Christ gave and yes, the idea of a portal is implied in the Bible because obviously, there must be some connection between material reality and spiritual reality, hence a portal, and Jesus Christ himself said that there are still more things, in time, to learn.

 

But what sort of 'portal' are you hoping that this forum is going to find by posting up the works of conspirators and occultists?

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Just now, Macnamara said:

 

But what sort of 'portal' are you hoping that this forum is going to find by posting up the works of conspirators and occultists?

 

What you are blinding yourself to is the fact that the conspirators have the secrets concerning the Kabbalah and it's those secrets that need to be opened and revealed so people can learn what the cabal has denied. That's what this thread is about.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

What you are blinding yourself to is the fact that the conspirators have the secrets concerning the Kabbalah and it's those secrets that need to be opened and revealed so people can learn what the cabal has denied. That's what this thread is about.

 

then as kabbalah is central to freemasonry, i don't see why you would have an issue with me exploring the authors masonic links to the illuminati

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6 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

then as kabbalah is central to freemasonry, i don't see why you would have an issue with me exploring the authors masonic links to the illuminati

 

But you can do that in your own thread, why not?

 

 

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