RobSS Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Macnamara said: no i don't think you are doing that i think you are simply looking to see what you WANT to see in it, instead of standing back and seeing if their is a purpose behind its design I want to see what's in the blue bricks. What do characters such as Mowgli, Frodo and Parsifal learn in their adventures. That's the kind of questions I ask. You only want to look at the outer red bricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, RobSS said: Where have i said you should blindly trust any process? I've never said any such thing! I actually said in the post you replied to that do actually need to take responsibility for your own reality, so I'm really puzzled by your comprehension here. by using the template given you ie kiplings story and kordas interpretation of it you are trusting yourself to their process but what if the process itself is inherently flawed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, RobSS said: I want to see what's in the blue bricks. What do characters such as Mowgli, Frodo and Parsifal learn in their adventures. That's the kind of questions I ask. You only want to look at the outer red bricks. no i go even deeper than you and ask: 'what is the author trying to get me to think and perceive through this process that they have crafted?' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Macnamara said: no! That is moral reletavism you don't get to choose your own reality. You get to choose how you engage with this reality and that is not the same thing. one leads to truth and the other leads to delusion and mental illness How you engage with this reality determines what kind of reality you have, so you're really just playing with words. What leads to mental illness is not learning wisdom and only focusing on material reality and the culture of blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Macnamara said: but according to the christians you shouldn't be using magic at all! the theosophists forbade their members to engage with practical magic and a schism opened up within the hermetic order of the golden dawn over the same point I agree, and Frodo renounces magic. Harry Potter though can't get enough of it. Edited January 25, 2022 by RobSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Macnamara said: by using the template given you ie kiplings story and kordas interpretation of it you are trusting yourself to their process but what if the process itself is inherently flawed? I'm not trusting them at all. Like I said, I'm not so much interested in the cult of personality. I'm more interested in the realms of human experiences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, RobSS said: How you engage with this reality determines what kind of reality you have, so you're really just playing with words. What leads to mental illness is not learning wisdom and only focusing on material reality and the culture of blame. I'm not playing with words. This goes right to the heart of this whole conspiracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, RobSS said: I agree, and Frodo renounces magic. Harry Potter though can't get enough of it. who gives a crap what frodo does....frodo isn't real I'm talking about what is being done alchemically to society through their exposure to popular culture created by occultists pushing certain agendas is society becoming more free right now or less free? is it becoming more degenerate or less degenerate? why do we see this explosion of occultic popular culture coming out of the same cliques around about the same time? Edited January 25, 2022 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Macnamara said: no i go even deeper than you and ask: 'what is the author trying to get me to think and perceive through this process that they have crafted?' Which leads to the culture of blame and complaining. Complaining about what people do and what they were involved in, etc., has nothing to do with learning the deeper and more valuable insights that can be learned from characters who interact with life in a way that teaches lessons and raises question about morality and the human condition. What is the matrix? What is the significance of the Grail? Why did Klingsor turn to evil? Who is Kundry really? Who does the Grail serve? Answers to these questions, and many more, will never come in the all the time spent digging the dirt on people and finding blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, RobSS said: Which leads to the culture of blame and complaining. Complaining about what people do and what they were involved in, etc., has nothing to do with learning the deeper and more valuable insights that can be learned from characters who interact with life in a way that teaches lessons and raises question about morality and the human condition. What is the matrix? What is the significance of the Grail? Why did Klingsor turn to evil? Who is Kundry really? Who does the Grail serve? Answers to these questions, and many more, will never come in the all the time spent digging the dirt on people and finding blame. if i offer you an experimental jab for a virus that has never been proven to exist do you want to just take it because you believe vaccines are a prophylactic measure to protect you or do you want to know something about me and my views before you go blindly trusting that thing the only difference here is that a jab is injected into your bloodstream whilst a movie is injected into your psyche if you then found out the person pushing the jabs was a genocidal maniac with a fixatioin on depopulation would that be 'blaming' to call him out or would it just be common sense self defence? Edited January 25, 2022 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, Macnamara said: no i go even deeper than you and ask: 'what is the author trying to get me to think and perceive through this process that they have crafted?' That's what I am doing but it is that what you're really though? All I see is you looking at the personality and digging the dirt. I don't see you questioning much about the story and the characters hardly at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Macnamara said: I'm not playing with words. This goes right to the heart of this whole conspiracy Then put it into your own words. What has moral relativism got to do with Mowgli. Don't be vague, be specific! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Macnamara said: who gives a crap what frodo does....frodo isn't real What is real. Everything in reality is an idea. 6 minutes ago, Macnamara said: I'm talking about what is being done alchemically to society through their exposure to popular culture created by occultists pushing certain agendas is society becoming more free right now or less free? is it becoming more degenerate or less degenerate? why do we see this explosion of occultic popular culture coming out of the same cliques around about the same time? Why are you worried about being a therapist to everyone? That's an impossible task! It's far more productive to learn wisdom that in turn will inspire other people to learn wisdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, RobSS said: That's what I am doing but it is that what you're really though? All I see is you looking at the personality and digging the dirt. I don't see you questioning much about the story and the characters hardly at all. this reminds me of debates that were had on the old forum the pirate council told people that the rainbow flag of the LGBT movement was freemasonic and this caused people to attack. They didn't like that at all and yet now here we are seeing the freemasons using the rainbow again in their covid scam There was another debate in which the pirate council said bowie was a kabbalist and that he and the kabbalist rock group led zepplin had been shagging young teenagers and once again this caused people to attack This was because they weren't looking at what is objectively true. They were only concerned with what they WANTED reality to be and they did not take kindly to someone rocking that boat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, RobSS said: Why are you worried about being a therapist to everyone? That's an impossible task! It's far more productive to learn wisdom that in turn will inspire other people to learn wisdom. understanding more about what's going on IS wisdom its you that is trying to say that nothing really matters except what an individual WANTS to believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Macnamara said: the only difference here is that a jab is injected into your bloodstream whilst a movie is injected into your psyche But you don't have to accept everything into your psyche that you see in film or book. You can chose and take responsibility for those choices. It's a waste of time just blaming books or films. You don't have to accept everything. You can sort the wheat from the chaff. Then the bay isn't thrown our with the weeds or the bathwater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, RobSS said: What is real. Everything in reality is an idea. I'm talking about consensus reality and if you cannot distinguish between that and make believe you are risking a psychological rupture Its one thing to draw psychic energy from something but another thing entirely to see it as indistinguishable from consensus reality what you are talking about is self hypnosis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Macnamara said: this reminds me of debates that were had on the old forum the pirate council told people that the rainbow flag of the LGBT movement was freemasonic and this caused people to attack. They didn't like that at all and yet now here we are seeing the freemasons using the rainbow again in their covid scam There was another debate in which the pirate council said bowie was a kabbalist and that he and the kabbalist rock group led zepplin had been shagging young teenagers and once again this caused people to attack This was because they weren't looking at what is objectively true. They were only concerned with what they WANTED reality to be and they did not take kindly to someone rocking that boat You're giving irrelevant examples. Everyman FOOL characters are not in the LGBT movement or in Led Zepplin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, RobSS said: But you don't have to accept everything into your psyche that you see in film or book. You can chose and take responsibility for those choices. not true. the whole point about what the tavistock institute does, just like the governments covid behavioural science unit is that you don't realise that you are being steered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, RobSS said: You're giving irrelevant examples. Everyman FOOL characters are not in the LGBT movement or in Led Zepplin. i'm just helping you to understand that in time i will be proven right and you will be proven wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Macnamara said: understanding more about what's going on IS wisdom its you that is trying to say that nothing really matters except what an individual WANTS to believe But once you've pointed the finger of blame, what then? The guillotine, and then what? The hand of Vengeance found the Bed To which the Purple Tyrant fled The iron hand crushd the Tyrants head And became a Tyrant in his stead William Blake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Macnamara said: not true. the whole point about what the tavistock institute does, just like the governments covid behavioural science unit is that you don't realise that you are being steered You're pointing the finger of blame again. But this thread is about questioning the Everyman character and what wisdom can be learned from this aspect of human nature. If you only want to focus on material reality and the red bricks, why don't you do your own thread on the subject? I might even be able to contribute my own knowledge to your red bricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, RobSS said: Then put it into your own words. What has moral relativism got to do with Mowgli. Don't be vague, be specific! that's a strawman i wasn't applying that to mowgli, i was applying that to your perception Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Macnamara said: i'm just helping you to understand that in time i will be proven right and you will be proven wrong So how is the Everyman character in Led Zeplin and the LGBT movement then? How am I wrong about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, Macnamara said: that's a strawman i wasn't applying that to mowgli, i was applying that to your perception Then be specific and not vague and general. Just posting a video with no comments says dada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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