Question: Why is the "Law of Attraction" not censored?

[QueenRia]

Hello everybody, I'm new here!

 

I only recently found out about David's material, been watching all the Brian Rose interviews and some other interviews here on the site.

One question that's been burning on my mind:

 

David says perception creates reality, and the cult knows this, and naturally doesn't want us to know about it.

But ever since "The Secret" came out, there is sooooo much material out there about manifesting and the Law of Attraction - in the mainstream!! More and more people are learning how to create their own reality.

Why are there no efforts made to suppress this kind of material?

At least it seems to me that no efforts are being made...

 

I'm curious as to what you guys think or know about this.

 

- Ria

 

 

 

[Mr H]

11 hours ago, QueenRia said:

Hello everybody, I'm new here!

 

I only recently found out about David's material, been watching all the Brian Rose interviews and some other interviews here on the site.

One question that's been burning on my mind:

 

David says perception creates reality, and the cult knows this, and naturally doesn't want us to know about it.

But ever since "The Secret" came out, there is sooooo much material out there about manifesting and the Law of Attraction - in the mainstream!! More and more people are learning how to create their own reality.

Why are there no efforts made to suppress this kind of material?

At least it seems to me that no efforts are being made...

 

I'm curious as to what you guys think or know about this.

 

- Ria

 

 

 

The majority of people live in an egoic state. Egoic state desires is what traps you into the system. Why would they want to stop you?

 

Qu for you. If the secret is so great and anyone can do it and create whatever they desire, why is everyone so miserable? Why is the world so fkd? Be careful what you wish for and manifest.

 

Unless you self realize, I personally suggest you stay the hell away from any form of conscious manifestation. Like giving a kid a firework

 

N.B I haven't rd the secret myself but know about it and it's just a copy of other people's work tailored for the modern day ego centric person- so commenting on LOA generally.

 

 

Edited January 9, 2022 by Mr H

[QueenRia]

Hi Mr H,

thank you for your reply and your perspective.

If this is indeed how they think, then that would explain it.

 

 

[QueenRia]

I'm coming back to this now, after having done some more pondering.  

The book that made the whole "Law of Attraction" movement go global was "The Secret" by Rhonda Byrne. She now has another book out that deals with the subject of self realization - exactly what David Icke is talking about too. Her message is "We are Awareness" - and just like David she makes it simple, easy to understand, and says everyone can wake up, right here, right now.

 

I do believe that both,
• teaching people how to do their own thinking, connect to their heart, and create their own reality (as "The Secret" does),
• and teaching people about self realization

is DANGEROUS TO THE CULT'S AGENDA and they should know that.

 

But still it's not censored. 

Because they don't have a good enough reason to justify censoring?

Because only few people are seeing it anyway (I don't think that's the case)?

Or because they have some weird code that tells them they are not allowed to censor this kind of stuff?

I would say maybe the latter.   

 

 

[Human10]

On 1/9/2022 at 7:58 AM, QueenRia said:

Hello everybody, I'm new here!

 

I only recently found out about David's material, been watching all the Brian Rose interviews and some other interviews here on the site.

One question that's been burning on my mind:

 

David says perception creates reality, and the cult knows this, and naturally doesn't want us to know about it.

But ever since "The Secret" came out, there is sooooo much material out there about manifesting and the Law of Attraction - in the mainstream!! More and more people are learning how to create their own reality.

Why are there no efforts made to suppress this kind of material?

At least it seems to me that no efforts are being made...

 

I'm curious as to what you guys think or know about this.

 

- Ria

 

 

 

Are you creating your reality?

[QueenRia]

2 minutes ago, Human10 said:

Are you creating your reality?

Everyone is.

[Ethel]

On 1/9/2022 at 7:58 AM, QueenRia said:

More and more people are learning how to create their own reality.

Why are there no efforts made to suppress this kind of material?

 

 

There are several reasons why there have been no efforts to suppress knowledge regarding the law of attraction, as follows

 

1.) What you read and hear about the so-called law of attraction is vastly oversimplified. The Secret is basically Law Of Attraction for toddlers. It promotes the view that "all you need to do is focus on what you want, and you'll get it", but this is a crude oversimplification since the vast majority of people are actually creating their reality via their subconscious beliefs. Most of humanity are more unconscious than conscious, and most of humanity have some really not very nice core beliefs, so the PTB know that the average person isn't going to do very much with it. They can manage the small stuff, but the average person isn't going to manage to win the lottery or acquire huge wealth because this simply isn't a match to the contents of their subconscious. I can consciously manifest very small stuff, i.e. books, clothes, unusual or distinctive phenomena like "pink car" or stuff like that, but I couldn't use it for stuff like lottery wins because what would be required for that would take profound spiritual transformation. Ditto for over 90% of the population. You can only attract what you are a match to.

 

Here are some common unconscious beliefs which a significant percentage of the population have operating in their unconscious, like a virus operating in the background on a computer:

 

• I am bad
• There is something wrong with me
• It's not okay to feel this way
• God is punishing me
• I am unlovable
• I'm not good enough
• I am powerless

This is just a selection. These are created via the socialization process and are mostly unavoidable in most of the population purely because of human design. I'll expand further. Children have no capacity for reasoning. If a child is told by their Mother that something they have done is "bad", the child doesn't differentiate between "I have done something bad" and "I am bad". Because they can't. If these kind of experiences happen often enough, the child eventually forms a core belief based upon their rudimentary interpretation of experiences. In an ideal world, parents would be able to guide their children through the socialization process without doing too much damage, but most people are too damaged themselves to manage this, so effectively, we have a population of people who mostly see themselves as varying degrees of bad, powerless and unworthy, or as being at the mercy of a vengeful and uncaring God etc. A large part of the suffering in this world is caused by core beliefs, in fact most of it is. You will most likely not become a millionaire with the law of attraction because there is no point of reference for doing so. Most people will most likely not find their "soul mate" with the LOA because they have unconscious beliefs of not being good enough or lovable enough, to varying degrees. Most people will most likely not find the house or job of their dreams because sadly, deep down in their subconscious, most have beliefs which block these things from manifesting. The powers that be know this, they are masters of occult knowledge so I'm not sure why you think they would need to censor LOA. They have socially engineered a society in which the average person is more interested in molding their child into a "good", obedient slave, than teaching their child to love, respect and value themselves as the infinite consciousness they truly are - which is why most of us will never climb the pyramid, never break the glass ceiling, never get out of the rat race. Some folks, like myself, didn't even get into the rat race, we were so badly damaged by life. Sorry if all of this is depressing to you.

 

However... there is a small glimmer of hope, and that lies in us as individuals working to change our unconscious core beliefs. I will not tell you this is easy, it's actually pretty difficult because beliefs exist in networks and are often interwoven with each other. You may find, after realizing that you have several core beliefs working against you, to begin working on one, only to find it is being held up by another one, and so on, and so on. It's kind of like a bowl of spaghetti. However, theoretically, if you use one of the many, many methods for changing core beliefs, and manage to change all of your negative core beliefs, then create more empowering ones, then you can begin to manifest things which are a match to your new beliefs. This is a lengthy process. It could take years, in some cases, and is dependent upon several other factors, such as your own emotional availability and what method of changing core beliefs you are using.

 

Interestingly, your thoughts are also generated by your subconscious beliefs, but your thoughts also manifest your reality, whilst your reality reinforces your subconscious beliefs.  It is clear this reality wasn't designed to be "easy" to navigate.

 

To put it all in perspective, here it is in simple terms. Your reality is probably 95% or more generated by your subconscious, and the other 5% (I'm being generous) by your conscious thoughts. 

 

The real reason "The Secret", and most of the other bunk out there on the subject of LOA isn't censored is because it's mostly not applicable to the average person. People with "little me" outlooks, even unconsciously, don't get wealth, fame, soulmates, or all of the material stuff they want. Think smaller - or the stuff you don't want.

 

2.) The other reason IMO that things like "The Secret" aren't censored is because they are most likely illuminati creations in the first place. The powers that be will enjoy immensely making the average person think they have a chance of creating the life of their dreams easily even when, for the majority of us, it simply isn't the case. People's disappointment is great 'loosh'. I first learned about LOA in 2015 and thought I was going to become a millionaire with the partner of my dreams and everything I ever wanted. I didn't. It took me about a further 4 years to realize that was because of my subconscious beliefs. Imagine the disappointment of millions of people who all find out the same as me. That's a lot of loosh. 

 

 

Edited September 19, 2022 by Ethel

[Ethel]

As a follow up to my last post in this thread, here is the first of three videos on the subject of the Law Of Attraction by a guy called Mark Passio. He goes into the subject in great depth; beyond the usual banal superficial level of exploration.

 

 

Edited September 21, 2022 by Ethel

[QueenRia]

On 9/19/2022 at 6:20 PM, Ethel said:

The real reason "The Secret", and most of the other bunk out there on the subject of LOA isn't censored is because it's mostly not applicable to the average person. People with "little me" outlooks, even unconsciously, don't get wealth, fame, soulmates, or all of the material stuff they want. Think smaller - or the stuff you don't want.

 

2.) The other reason IMO that things like "The Secret" aren't censored is because they are most likely illuminati creations in the first place. The powers that be will enjoy immensely making the average person think they have a chance of creating the life of their dreams easily even when, for the majority of us, it simply isn't the case

 

Thank you, I appreciate your thoughts on this. I agree, that a vast majority will probably not be able to do much with the information. But I believe that's not because the information doesn't go deep enough, but because those people are not able to hear it in the state of awareness they're in. However, countless others do hear it and it leads them onto the path of awakening. This was the case with me back in 2007.  "The Secret" started it. It true that in this movie/book, everything is kept very simple. The author herself says that she always tries to make things as simple as possible. The Secret was meant to be for absolute beginners, it was meant to start to open up minds - those that are ready. Everyone is free to then start doing their own research. Many philosophers and teachers are quoted in this book - and for me the journey started by looking up those teachers and beginning to study their teachings. The writings of one of those teachers gave me a minor spiritual awakening and I had a few months where life was absolutely magical and I manifested some bonafide "miracles". (but then my old programming kicked back in and I didn't realize it, so it went dark again for a while)

 

All of what you are explaining about the subconscious programming is actually described in more detail in Rhonda Byrne's later books. Her latest book is about non-duality - about the Infinite Awareness that we are - EXACTLY what David Icke talks about! And again, many teachers are quoted in that book, so whoever is ready can do their own research and find all the information they need. 

 

Just as an example, there's a huge community on Youtube about "Law of Attraction"; or even better: "Law of Assumption" (based on Neville Goddard's teachings), which in my view is less misleading than Law of Attraction/"feel-good" stuff. And those people are manifesting the heck out of their lives!!  They are successfully manifesting whatever they want. You may not be aware of those people, but they are many, and numbers are growing!   The only reason I'm not yet saying I'm one of them is because of my current state of burn-out/depression where I have created the belief for myself that "nothing works for me", so things are moving rather slowly, haha    (But I'm working my way out of it - actually David's explanation of the simulation concept is helping me with that!)

 

So I really do not believe "The Secret" or LoA-teachers are from the dark side. My guess is, that the dark side is somehow "not allowed" to stop it. Or is it that they are on such a low frequency that they are not even aware how many people are freeing themselves from the programming? Could it be that they have underestimated what this information can do?  Another thing that puzzles me is people like Oprah, who I've now learned is definitely on the dark side, but who has been very active in helping people raise their consciousness - what is up with that?? 

Edited September 30, 2022 by QueenRia

[Macnamara]

The elites don't mind you sitting around thinking about how rich you would like to be. What the elites don't like is you taking action that will lessen their power over you

 

For example they don't mind millions of people fantasising about having the latest smart phone but they would mind if millions of people started smashing their smart phones and refusing to own one

 

You visualising owning a more fancy version of their surveillance tech is not a threat to their control at all. If however something were making millions of you get rid of that tech then the elites would most definately pay attention to that

 

So what they don't want is ACTION that removes their control over you and as long as something isn't getting you to do that they have no problem with it

[QueenRia]

On 9/30/2022 at 3:59 PM, Macnamara said:

So what they don't want is ACTION that removes their control over you and as long as something isn't getting you to do that they have no problem with it

 

The process of manifesting always involves action. Contrary to what most critics claim, even "The Secret"-book mentions taking action as part of the process.

So that doesn't answer my question.

[truepositive]

No one knows exactly how this game works. But intent is a big player. I do agree with Mac that whatever you may picture fitting into the general agenda is both relatively pointless and destructive. However there are core truths here. They are best described in 'The Law of One' and to some extent Jane Roberts channels.

 

In a spiritual sense all of this refers to detachment from the physical world, which will then give you footing or even power in the physical world. None of the self help books and videos mention that detachment is the only way to get what you need. What you want might be something entirely different, but it rarely matters. The law is mostly about recognizing synchronicity and acting on it. And once you see it, it sees you, and becomes more frequent.

[Macnamara]

2 hours ago, QueenRia said:

The process of manifesting always involves action. Contrary to what most critics claim, even "The Secret"-book mentions taking action as part of the process.

So that doesn't answer my question.

 

So what mark passio says is the universe respects 'unity consciousness' which is to say when a person(s) has aligned their thoughts, feelings and actions.

 

he says the el-ites have unity consciousness. The problem is that their emotional aspect, which is to say what they care about is not in accordance with divine Will but rather in accordance with their own egoic will.

 

So what the elites do not want us doing is aligning our thoughts, care and action with the divine Will, which is to say living in harmony with natural law.

 

So everything the elites are doing is geared towards thwarting us from doing that. They don't mind us pursuing materiality such as money, flash cars, fame and all that other crap.

[RobinJ]

On 9/19/2022 at 11:20 AM, Ethel said:

 

There are several reasons why there have been no efforts to suppress knowledge regarding the law of attraction, as follows

 

1.) What you read and hear about the so-called law of attraction is vastly oversimplified. The Secret is basically Law Of Attraction for toddlers. It promotes the view that "all you need to do is focus on what you want, and you'll get it", but this is a crude oversimplification since the vast majority of people are actually creating their reality via their subconscious beliefs. Most of humanity are more unconscious than conscious, and most of humanity have some really not very nice core beliefs, so the PTB know that the average person isn't going to do very much with it. They can manage the small stuff, but the average person isn't going to manage to win the lottery or acquire huge wealth because this simply isn't a match to the contents of their subconscious. I can consciously manifest very small stuff, i.e. books, clothes, unusual or distinctive phenomena like "pink car" or stuff like that, but I couldn't use it for stuff like lottery wins because what would be required for that would take profound spiritual transformation. Ditto for over 90% of the population. You can only attract what you are a match to.

 

Here are some common unconscious beliefs which a significant percentage of the population have operating in their unconscious, like a virus operating in the background on a computer:

 

• I am bad
• There is something wrong with me
• It's not okay to feel this way
• God is punishing me
• I am unlovable
• I'm not good enough
• I am powerless

This is just a selection. These are created via the socialization process and are mostly unavoidable in most of the population purely because of human design. I'll expand further. Children have no capacity for reasoning. If a child is told by their Mother that something they have done is "bad", the child doesn't differentiate between "I have done something bad" and "I am bad". Because they can't. If these kind of experiences happen often enough, the child eventually forms a core belief based upon their rudimentary interpretation of experiences. In an ideal world, parents would be able to guide their children through the socialization process without doing too much damage, but most people are too damaged themselves to manage this, so effectively, we have a population of people who mostly see themselves as varying degrees of bad, powerless and unworthy, or as being at the mercy of a vengeful and uncaring God etc. A large part of the suffering in this world is caused by core beliefs, in fact most of it is. You will most likely not become a millionaire with the law of attraction because there is no point of reference for doing so. Most people will most likely not find their "soul mate" with the LOA because they have unconscious beliefs of not being good enough or lovable enough, to varying degrees. Most people will most likely not find the house or job of their dreams because sadly, deep down in their subconscious, most have beliefs which block these things from manifesting. The powers that be know this, they are masters of occult knowledge so I'm not sure why you think they would need to censor LOA. They have socially engineered a society in which the average person is more interested in molding their child into a "good", obedient slave, than teaching their child to love, respect and value themselves as the infinite consciousness they truly are - which is why most of us will never climb the pyramid, never break the glass ceiling, never get out of the rat race. Some folks, like myself, didn't even get into the rat race, we were so badly damaged by life. Sorry if all of this is depressing to you.

 

However... there is a small glimmer of hope, and that lies in us as individuals working to change our unconscious core beliefs. I will not tell you this is easy, it's actually pretty difficult because beliefs exist in networks and are often interwoven with each other. You may find, after realizing that you have several core beliefs working against you, to begin working on one, only to find it is being held up by another one, and so on, and so on. It's kind of like a bowl of spaghetti. However, theoretically, if you use one of the many, many methods for changing core beliefs, and manage to change all of your negative core beliefs, then create more empowering ones, then you can begin to manifest things which are a match to your new beliefs. This is a lengthy process. It could take years, in some cases, and is dependent upon several other factors, such as your own emotional availability and what method of changing core beliefs you are using.

 

Interestingly, your thoughts are also generated by your subconscious beliefs, but your thoughts also manifest your reality, whilst your reality reinforces your subconscious beliefs.  It is clear this reality wasn't designed to be "easy" to navigate.

 

To put it all in perspective, here it is in simple terms. Your reality is probably 95% or more generated by your subconscious, and the other 5% (I'm being generous) by your conscious thoughts. 

 

The real reason "The Secret", and most of the other bunk out there on the subject of LOA isn't censored is because it's mostly not applicable to the average person. People with "little me" outlooks, even unconsciously, don't get wealth, fame, soulmates, or all of the material stuff they want. Think smaller - or the stuff you don't want.

 

2.) The other reason IMO that things like "The Secret" aren't censored is because they are most likely illuminati creations in the first place. The powers that be will enjoy immensely making the average person think they have a chance of creating the life of their dreams easily even when, for the majority of us, it simply isn't the case. People's disappointment is great 'loosh'. I first learned about LOA in 2015 and thought I was going to become a millionaire with the partner of my dreams and everything I ever wanted. I didn't. It took me about a further 4 years to realize that was because of my subconscious beliefs. Imagine the disappointment of millions of people who all find out the same as me. That's a lot of loosh. 

 

 

That is a great post!

One thing i would like to add is that unless you are on a spiritual journey you will never manifest anything. Plus, it takes intention from the heart to manifest not just a thought pattern or a wish/ prayer etc.

You final point made me think this may also be part of the game. that a concept can get you so excited then when you can achieve it you get crushing disappointment..... and, I would think, tend to rail against whatever led you there in the first place, you would also become a 'detractor' for that concept having tried and failed. Pretty neat system eh?

[QueenRia]

I had another thought, and I wonder why I didn't have it before, because it makes so much sense:

 

The cult's chain of command is still working through humans. They couldn't just give a command to censor something that seems like harmless woohoo to most people. They need a credible "reason" to censor something (like saying natural medicine is quackery, or plandemic "disinformation" leads to harm etc.), else the humans acting in the chain of command wouldn't go along with it. 

And this is also why, for example, I was able to buy David's "The Trap" audiobook on Audible. There's no good enough reason for them to give the command that it's not allowed to be on Audible. 

[RobinJ]

It plays into their 'humans are nut-jobs who will believe anything' narrative. Something they can point to for 'proof'

[JCP]

On 9/19/2022 at 12:20 PM, Ethel said:

 

There are several reasons why there have been no efforts to suppress knowledge regarding the law of attraction, as follows

 

1.) What you read and hear about the so-called law of attraction is vastly oversimplified. The Secret is basically Law Of Attraction for toddlers. It promotes the view that "all you need to do is focus on what you want, and you'll get it", but this is a crude oversimplification since the vast majority of people are actually creating their reality via their subconscious beliefs. Most of humanity are more unconscious than conscious, and most of humanity have some really not very nice core beliefs, so the PTB know that the average person isn't going to do very much with it. They can manage the small stuff, but the average person isn't going to manage to win the lottery or acquire huge wealth because this simply isn't a match to the contents of their subconscious. I can consciously manifest very small stuff, i.e. books, clothes, unusual or distinctive phenomena like "pink car" or stuff like that, but I couldn't use it for stuff like lottery wins because what would be required for that would take profound spiritual transformation. Ditto for over 90% of the population. You can only attract what you are a match to.

 

Here are some common unconscious beliefs which a significant percentage of the population have operating in their unconscious, like a virus operating in the background on a computer:

 

• I am bad
• There is something wrong with me
• It's not okay to feel this way
• God is punishing me
• I am unlovable
• I'm not good enough
• I am powerless

This is just a selection. These are created via the socialization process and are mostly unavoidable in most of the population purely because of human design. I'll expand further. Children have no capacity for reasoning. If a child is told by their Mother that something they have done is "bad", the child doesn't differentiate between "I have done something bad" and "I am bad". Because they can't. If these kind of experiences happen often enough, the child eventually forms a core belief based upon their rudimentary interpretation of experiences. In an ideal world, parents would be able to guide their children through the socialization process without doing too much damage, but most people are too damaged themselves to manage this, so effectively, we have a population of people who mostly see themselves as varying degrees of bad, powerless and unworthy, or as being at the mercy of a vengeful and uncaring God etc. A large part of the suffering in this world is caused by core beliefs, in fact most of it is. You will most likely not become a millionaire with the law of attraction because there is no point of reference for doing so. Most people will most likely not find their "soul mate" with the LOA because they have unconscious beliefs of not being good enough or lovable enough, to varying degrees. Most people will most likely not find the house or job of their dreams because sadly, deep down in their subconscious, most have beliefs which block these things from manifesting. The powers that be know this, they are masters of occult knowledge so I'm not sure why you think they would need to censor LOA. They have socially engineered a society in which the average person is more interested in molding their child into a "good", obedient slave, than teaching their child to love, respect and value themselves as the infinite consciousness they truly are - which is why most of us will never climb the pyramid, never break the glass ceiling, never get out of the rat race. Some folks, like myself, didn't even get into the rat race, we were so badly damaged by life. Sorry if all of this is depressing to you.

 

However... there is a small glimmer of hope, and that lies in us as individuals working to change our unconscious core beliefs. I will not tell you this is easy, it's actually pretty difficult because beliefs exist in networks and are often interwoven with each other. You may find, after realizing that you have several core beliefs working against you, to begin working on one, only to find it is being held up by another one, and so on, and so on. It's kind of like a bowl of spaghetti. However, theoretically, if you use one of the many, many methods for changing core beliefs, and manage to change all of your negative core beliefs, then create more empowering ones, then you can begin to manifest things which are a match to your new beliefs. This is a lengthy process. It could take years, in some cases, and is dependent upon several other factors, such as your own emotional availability and what method of changing core beliefs you are using.

 

Interestingly, your thoughts are also generated by your subconscious beliefs, but your thoughts also manifest your reality, whilst your reality reinforces your subconscious beliefs.  It is clear this reality wasn't designed to be "easy" to navigate.

 

To put it all in perspective, here it is in simple terms. Your reality is probably 95% or more generated by your subconscious, and the other 5% (I'm being generous) by your conscious thoughts. 

 

The real reason "The Secret", and most of the other bunk out there on the subject of LOA isn't censored is because it's mostly not applicable to the average person. People with "little me" outlooks, even unconsciously, don't get wealth, fame, soulmates, or all of the material stuff they want. Think smaller - or the stuff you don't want.

 

2.) The other reason IMO that things like "The Secret" aren't censored is because they are most likely illuminati creations in the first place. The powers that be will enjoy immensely making the average person think they have a chance of creating the life of their dreams easily even when, for the majority of us, it simply isn't the case. People's disappointment is great 'loosh'. I first learned about LOA in 2015 and thought I was going to become a millionaire with the partner of my dreams and everything I ever wanted. I didn't. It took me about a further 4 years to realize that was because of my subconscious beliefs. Imagine the disappointment of millions of people who all find out the same as me. That's a lot of loosh. 

 

 

 

I think another reason "The Secret" isn't censored is because they are not giving us the whole formula in which to bend reality or create change. Intention and attention are only part of the formula. It has to be coupled with an elevated emotion. You have to feel whole before your healing; you would have to feel abundance before your wealth; you would have to feel awe before that mystical moment; and you would have to feel love before you find it. ~ Joe Dispenza

 

 

What they do keep hidden is the Quantum entanglement that is necessary to create change and bend reality. 

[QueenRia]

4 hours ago, JCP said:

What they do keep hidden is the Quantum entanglement that is necessary to create change and bend reality.

Actually there's quite a few teachers online who take quantum physics into account. But it's not necessary to intellectually understand the scientific aspect. Everyone is manifesting 24/7 without being aware of how they do it. All they need to do is find a way to align their whole being with their desire - and there's as many ways to do it as there are people. I've spent many years exploring different approaches, and to my mind they are all saying essentially the same thing (some more accurately than others). But because each mind works differently, not every approach works for every person. The mechanics of it are the same, but the way to get a person to make the actual shift is different for everyone.

The information is not actively promoted or encouraged, of course - it's not taught anywhere in the education system, and scientists who explore it, like Dispenza, are labeled pseudo-scientists. But it's not like teachers or books that do teach it are taken out. I guess they would like to be able to do that, but they can't

[JCP]

11 hours ago, QueenRia said:

Actually there's quite a few teachers online who take quantum physics into account. But it's not necessary to intellectually understand the scientific aspect. Everyone is manifesting 24/7 without being aware of how they do it. All they need to do is find a way to align their whole being with their desire - and there's as many ways to do it as there are people. I've spent many years exploring different approaches, and to my mind they are all saying essentially the same thing (some more accurately than others). But because each mind works differently, not every approach works for every person. The mechanics of it are the same, but the way to get a person to make the actual shift is different for everyone.

The information is not actively promoted or encouraged, of course - it's not taught anywhere in the education system, and scientists who explore it, like Dispenza, are labeled pseudo-scientists. But it's not like teachers or books that do teach it are taken out. I guess they would like to be able to do that, but they can't

 

Why wouldn't these teachers take quantum physics into account when that is where manifestation takes place? It' about rewiring and reprogramming the very small; neuroreceptors, DNA, and the recoding of genes. That doesn't happen within Newtonian or classical mechanics. As@RobinJmentions above, "unless you are on a spiritual journey you will never manifest anything." You mention that there's as many ways to manifest as there are people, but I disagree. You seem to look at it as everyone is an individual, and I see it as we are all one; like a individual cell within a single body of trillions. In La Kesh - I am another yourself. In that framework, each mind works and manifests the same.

 

The people that should be labeled as pseudo-scientists are the main stream scientists. Seeing their latest work, they could also be labeled as sorcerers.

 

Not only do I see manifestation thru quantum science, but also healing and the activation of our so-called junk DNA; allowing for our repressed abilities to resurface. I even see the possibility of healing people that have been injured by the clot-shot by recoding the genes that produce the spike protein.

We just have to remember who we really are. We can accomplish this thru meditation, by visiting and working the quantum field within ourselves. 

[RobinJ]

5 hours ago, JCP said:

You mention that there's as many ways to manifest as there are people, but I disagree. You seem to look at it as everyone is an individual, and I see it as we are all one; like a individual cell within a single body of trillions. In La Kesh - I am another yourself. In that framework, each mind works and manifests the same.

 Yes and as my friend puts it "we are the single drops that make one ocean of consciousness."  (love dat!) The more you open up to the spiritual journey, the more you get given. But, YOU have to open the door. Things start appearing that you need... no prayers or asking. Just considering how the things you need are with good intention and not just 'wants'

I manifested my perfect place for an off grid project so I could continue to fulfil my life path....and my building manager is 'awake' and speaks my language.' (Its in a tiny village where not many speak my language ) - just one example 

 

[truepositive]

Thats good karma i suppose. The baby that gets blown up within days or week of life, you could argue about that too. The atrocities that some of us enact, salvation is always possible, but regression to the lowest density is logical. I dont know though, sometimes it feels like wisened souls come here as a challenge, because it is a well masqueraded hellscape.

 

As the Veda's might argue this would be a 'middle world' yet Shiva's extensive playfulness brought it down further into maya.

[JCP]

18 hours ago, RobinJ said:

 Yes and as my friend puts it "we are the single drops that make one ocean of consciousness."  (love dat!) The more you open up to the spiritual journey, the more you get given. But, YOU have to open the door. Things start appearing that you need... no prayers or asking. Just considering how the things you need are with good intention and not just 'wants'

I manifested my perfect place for an off grid project so I could continue to fulfil my life path....and my building manager is 'awake' and speaks my language.' (Its in a tiny village where not many speak my language ) - just one example 

 

 

Thanx Robin. That is a beautiful analogy. I hope you don't mind if I borrow it occasionally.

 

I like what you say about 'wants' and 'needs'. I find that my needs are fulfilled without wanting or asking for them; while my wants, when acquired, are not as important as I thought they once were. My journey started quite some time ago and has been slow to develop. It started not long after 9/11. At that time I was gifted with a stronger intuition and insight, but I didn't attribute it anything spiritual although felt it was some type of awakening. I kinda threw spirituality and religion into the same basket. I remember rejecting religion at a very early age in Sunday school, and found myself in later years fighting the spiritual pull. Now at almost 66, I can finally embrace my spiritual side from within.

 

Before replying to this post, I had to do what you might call, a navel gazing session. When I first started doing meditation about 12-14 years ago, I seen it as a possibility of looking within, but also viewed it as a chore. Now if I get too tied up with life and don't allow time for a session, I almost feel ill, and get an inner calling to take time for myself. It is these times when I experience the most intense visions and the flow is the heaviest. It's almost like a psychedelic trip without the drugs. I now look forward to my sessions.

 

I don't know why it took me so long to open the door, but once it's opened, you can never go back .......... and I wouldn't want to. The peace of mind that I've gained thru this journey and what I've learned, is that I can handle anything that this life (or the elite) can throw at me; because even though at times it can be painful, I cannot be destroyed, and that I am an immortal soul having a brief human experience with many more to come. As Bill Hicks says "It's just a ride". 

[RobinJ]

Well feel free to borrow away! We are all in it together. Your first paragraph here is very similar to how I became awakened though not in the same timescale. Looking back now, my guides have been trying to slap me awake my whole life! Now I think we awaken when our purpose is ready to be fulfilled, and, if we choose to open that door.

I tried all kinds of meditation in the beginning but it was stuff with frequency that always hit the spot. We all have our own mission to complete here.

Some are healers, some are spreaders of the word of truth, some are collectors of new born spirituals, some will stay after the cataclysm to help restart a better humanity, some will be leaders, some teachers and keepers of the true history, and some will be called 'home'. Everyone will know their purpose when they exit the prison system of slavery we live under.

As a footnote.....The Matrix movie was originally called  "The Immortals."

[JCP]

12 minutes ago, RobinJ said:

Well feel free to borrow away! We are all in it together. Your first paragraph here is very similar to how I became awakened though not in the same timescale. Looking back now, my guides have been trying to slap me awake my whole life! Now I think we awaken when our purpose is ready to be fulfilled, and, if we choose to open that door.

I tried all kinds of meditation in the beginning but it was stuff with frequency that always hit the spot. We all have our own mission to complete here.

Some are healers, some are spreaders of the word of truth, some are collectors of new born spirituals, some will stay after the cataclysm to help restart a better humanity, some will be leaders, some teachers and keepers of the true history, and some will be called 'home'. Everyone will know their purpose when they exit the prison system of slavery we live under.

As a footnote.....The Matrix movie was originally called  "The Immortals."

 

Speaking of frequency, one method of meditation I've been trying is to couple different frequencies from a cranial electrotherpy stimulation (CES) device and matching it with an identical audio frequencies from youtube using headphones. I clip the CES electrodes to my earlobes and choose an electrical frequency; find a matching pure tone or binaural beat frequency on youtube, put the headphones on and let er rip. The combination of electrical + audio stimulation in the same frequency gives an enhanced effect (to me anyway). I've had the the most success using 111hz and 7.83hz (Schumann Resonance Frequency of the earth), but other frequencies have their uses too. It may not be for you but when you mentioned "frequency", I thought I'd tell you what I do.

This is the one I use:

BOB BECK CES DEVICE BT-11 MAX BIO TUNER

 

Interesting about "The Matrix" movie and "The Immortals". It seems there was a lawsuit involving the two.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/the-matrix-wins-unreasonable-plagiarism-lawsuit-brought-by-writer-thomas-althouse-9301094.html

[RobinJ]

Yes, the Matrix lawsuit had been going on a while. The Worchowskies were frauds. It was a stolen script.

 

I am always interested to learn about frequencies and their use. The 111 frequency is where cancer is cured I believe. I do love a bit of home experimentation and found my own frequencies by trial and error and some guidance on where and what to look at. You may get even better results if you can first get the music from a source thats not distorted and already has the music tuned to 432 not 440. Or run it through the 432 tuner app while playing as YT corrupts sound quite badly.

True pure tone is another thing we have had stolen from us. Intrigued to hear more. Feel free to send me a private message if you like and we can chat more there.