Guardian Posted January 4, 2022 Author Share Posted January 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, linenum said: These experiences could be called delusions or hallucinations or coincidences, etc. Many other people have stories of their own and some are contradictory. There could be many contradictory realities or you are 100% correct and people's other contradictory experiences are just delusions or hallucinations. If you told psychiatrists they'd probably think there is a problem with your perceptions rather than agree that you have knowledge about the true nature of reality. Well that's just my opinion. Wow, my friend. "Delusions or hallucinations" Not such thing as delusions or hallucinations.... and there is no such thing as coincidence. You are constantly using their language. Those words, those descriptions you use, are to deceive us. Seeing beyond the veil is not a delusion or hallucination. I gave you a link to that meditation video.... you could see it all for yourself. But I am sure you want to be told what is rather than see it for yourself. Psychiatrists? These people have no idea who they are, how they got here, and what here even is.... but they think they know some shit. The cats going for the laser pointer dot again. You are using the system's description of what is, and people that server that system to "debunk" us or to shape your reality. Just like the rest of our people. Your reality is limited by your perception.... If you want to believe the system, my friend, by all means, knock yourself out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linenum Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Guardian said: Wow, my friend. "Delusions or hallucinations" Not such thing as delusions or hallucinations.... and there is no such thing as coincidence. In the movie "A Beautiful Mind", the main character sees other characters that no-one else can. Are those people as real as everything else in the world? 5 minutes ago, Guardian said: I gave you a link to that meditation video.... you could see it all for yourself. But I am sure you want to be told what is rather than see it for yourself. Ken Keyes' books are actually more advanced than that I think... similar to your video his tenth pathway is "I am continually calming the restless scanning of my rational mind in order to perceive the finer energies that enable me to unitively merge with everything around me." i.e. it is about stopping spoken thoughts. 5 minutes ago, Guardian said: Psychiatrists? These people have no idea who they are, how they got here, and what here even is.... but they think they know some shit. The cats going for the laser pointer dot again. When people claim to see or hear things that no-one else can the evidence points to it being a figment of their imagination rather than them accessing a real part of another aspect of reality.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted January 4, 2022 Author Share Posted January 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, linenum said: In the movie "A Beautiful Mind", the main character sees other characters that no-one else can. Are those people as real as everything else in the world? Ken Keyes' books are actually more advanced than that I think... similar to your video his tenth pathway is "I am continually calming the restless scanning of my rational mind in order to perceive the finer energies that enable me to unitively merge with everything around me." i.e. it is about stopping spoken thoughts. When people claim to see or hear things that no-one else can the evidence points to it being a figment of their imagination rather than them accessing a real part of another aspect of reality.... You come across as part of the system. It feels like I am debating the system itself. Why did you even bother commenting on my threat to begin with? Rhetorical question. This engagement is counterproductive to me. Have a good one, bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linenum Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Guardian said: You come across as part of the system. Does the system say that everything is just a video game? 25 minutes ago, Guardian said: It feels like I am debating the system itself. Why did you even bother commenting on my threat to begin with? Rhetorical question. I have beliefs about my identity and nature outside of the video game. 25 minutes ago, Guardian said: This engagement is counterproductive to me. Have a good one, bro. I thought I could help you refine your thoughts but it's up to you.... Edited January 4, 2022 by linenum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted January 4, 2022 Author Share Posted January 4, 2022 Remember who you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted January 4, 2022 Author Share Posted January 4, 2022 Please people... Don't come at me echoing the system. I know the damn system. I am in it, I am surrounded by it. I fight the damn system 24/7. Yes, even when I am "unconscious" Or echo someone else's opinions by quoting other people or sharing links to other people's opinions. I want to hear your own opinions, conclusions and experiences. Not the system's propaganda or other people's opinion. If you got nothing of your own, don't act like you do and walk around like you know some shit. Please don't bother me. Go make a cup of coffee or something. It's getting damn irritating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linenum Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Guardian said: It's getting damn irritating. From Ken Keyes: Quote if our power, pride, or prestige boundaries are violated -- like automatons -- we instantly trigger the experience of anger, hostility, irritation, hate, etc Just sayin' Though sometimes I feel irritation myself.... (but when I first started reading his books I had no negative emotions for a while) Edited January 4, 2022 by linenum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mad Man Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) The ego-mind doesn't want to let go. It fights tooth and nail to keep your attention here, in this now. Stop pretending! I'm not some guy working a job, loving a wife, raising 6 kids. None of this is real. But I sure as hell act out a life and pretend it all is. I am self aware infinite oneness. I am all and all is I. It's simply a choice. You choose what you want to do. When you're everything, what's stopping ya??? The voices in my head, the voices in my head, heigh-ho, the derry-o the voices in my head. Is your sole nemesis.. Disembodied voices deepen my Suspicious tendencies Conversations we've never had Imagined interplay Psychopathy Don't you dare point that at me Heated altercations we'll never had so I'm told Yet guided by them all Every single one Psychopathy Misleading me over and over and over Judge, condemn, and banish any and everyone Without evidence Only the whispers from within Psychopathy Misleading me over and over Psychopathy Misleading me over and over and over Don't you dare point that at me Don't you dare point that at me Don't you dare point that at Don't you dare Don't you dare Don't you dare point that Don't you dare Don't you dare Don't you dare point that at... Remembering who you are. Requires the quieting of the ego mind. And enjoying the silence. Words like violence Break the silence Come crashing in Into my little world Painful to me Pierce right through me Can't you understand? Oh, my little girl All I ever wanted All I ever needed Is here in my arms Words are very unnecessary They can only do harm Vows are spoken To be broken Feelings are intense Words are trivial Pleasures remain So does the pain Words are meaningless And forgettable All I ever wanted All I ever needed Is here in my arms Words are very unnecessary They can only do harm All I ever wanted All I ever needed Is here in my arms Words are very unnecessary They can only do harm All I ever wanted All I ever needed Is here in my arms Words are very unnecessary They can only do harm... Edited January 5, 2022 by The Mad Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 Remember who you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest m754 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Indeed we need to remember...and when we do this whole 'experience' we are having will seem so very very sad...like living in poverty when one has a million dollars 'hidden' somewhere...just need to remember..and access Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 9 hours ago, The Mad Man said: The ego-mind doesn't want to let go. It fights tooth and nail to keep your attention here, in this now. Stop pretending! I'm not some guy working a job, loving a wife, raising 6 kids. None of this is real. But I sure as hell act out a life and pretend it all is. I am self aware infinite oneness. I am all and all is I. It's simply a choice. You choose what you want to do. When you're everything, what's stopping ya??? The voices in my head, the voices in my head, heigh-ho, the derry-o the voices in my head. Is your sole nemesis.. Disembodied voices deepen my Suspicious tendencies Conversations we've never had Imagined interplay Psychopathy Don't you dare point that at me Heated altercations we'll never had so I'm told Yet guided by them all Every single one Psychopathy Misleading me over and over and over Judge, condemn, and banish any and everyone Without evidence Only the whispers from within Psychopathy Misleading me over and over Psychopathy Misleading me over and over and over Don't you dare point that at me Don't you dare point that at me Don't you dare point that at Don't you dare Don't you dare Don't you dare point that Don't you dare Don't you dare Don't you dare point that at... Remembering who you are. Requires the quieting of the ego mind. And enjoying the silence. Words like violence Break the silence Come crashing in Into my little world Painful to me Pierce right through me Can't you understand? Oh, my little girl All I ever wanted All I ever needed Is here in my arms Words are very unnecessary They can only do harm Vows are spoken To be broken Feelings are intense Words are trivial Pleasures remain So does the pain Words are meaningless And forgettable All I ever wanted All I ever needed Is here in my arms Words are very unnecessary They can only do harm All I ever wanted All I ever needed Is here in my arms Words are very unnecessary They can only do harm All I ever wanted All I ever needed Is here in my arms Words are very unnecessary They can only do harm... WTH is this? What are you on about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Guardian said: WTH is this? What are you on about? Wow. such an enlightened and loving response.... [sarc/off] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: Wow. such an enlightened and loving response.... [sarc/off] Look who's talking. lol I am a Guardian, NOT a Guru! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Guardian said: Look who's talking. lol I am a Guardian, NOT a Guru! I'm just living my life dude.... you're the one running around claiming 'holier than thou' claiming they're better than everyone here.....noone's buying it though. I would help the weak and anyone who may appear mentally ill..... I will fight bullies and hypocrites though. Edited January 5, 2022 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) Yes, remember who/what we are. We help each other remember....because In Truth we are One Within THE ONE. We restore communication with OurSelf, and disregard them that would continue to play ego-games and mislead. That's their perogative, this is our's. The ego offers magic and hallucinations. Delusions. For sale. The Spirit offers Miracles and Reality. Freely. Naturally. "Pneuma"--TOOL "We are spirit Bound to this flesh We go around one foot nailed down We're bound to reach out and beyond This flesh become Pneuma We are will and wonder Bound to recall, remember (We are born of) One breath, one word (We are all) One spark, Son becoming Child, wake up Child, release The light Wake up now, child, wake up Child, release The light Wake up now, child (Spirit) (Spirit) (Spirit) (Spirit) Bound to this flesh This guise, this mask, this dream Wake up, remember (We are born of) One breath, one word (We are all) One spark, Son becoming Pneuma Reach out and beyond Wake up, remember (We are born of) One breath, one word (We are all) One spark, eyes full of wonder". Edited January 5, 2022 by novymir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Truthspoon said: I'm just living my life dude.... you're the one running around claiming 'holier than thou' claiming they're better than everyone here.....noone's buying it though. I would help the weak and anyone who may appear mentally ill..... I will fight bullies and hypocrites though. Yeah, the dude is admittedly on a losing streak,,, he's (supposedly) fought against the "dark ones" countless times and still been deceived and defeated over and over,,according to his own words ...yet all he suggests is to keep repeating that pattern... His "meditation" thing wasn't anything special either, uses words that suggest it is...it's nothing new... He's just a fantasy player the ego showed some shit to and told him he's "special" even superior; delusions, hallucinations and deceptions,,, passed of as "knowledge" or enlightened. He has failed to connect BEYOND this illusion, therefore all he's got is deceptive bullshit supporting it. Of course the artificial-intelligence(an oxymoron) he's tuned in to is just a machine like "intelligence", it is bound(limited by) to mathematical equations of possibility, probabilty, and predictability, all geared to ensure ego-survival at the expense of The Real. It can even use him to give meditation a bad name...possibility, probability, predictability. But the Spirit is not bound to such limits...It's waaaaay above that shit, that's what it means; "...the matrix(agents) will never be as fast or strong(in any way) as The One...". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 48 minutes ago, novymir said: Yes, remember who/what we are. We help each other remember....because In Truth we are One Within THE ONE. We restore communication with OurSelf, and disregard them that would continue to play ego-games and mislead. That's their perogative, this is our's. The ego offers magic and hallucinations. Delusions. For sale. The Spirit offers Miracles and Reality. Freely. Naturally. "Pneuma"--TOOL "We are spirit Bound to this flesh We go around one foot nailed down We're bound to reach out and beyond This flesh become Pneuma We are will and wonder Bound to recall, remember (We are born of) One breath, one word (We are all) One spark, Son becoming Child, wake up Child, release The light Wake up now, child, wake up Child, release The light Wake up now, child (Spirit) (Spirit) (Spirit) (Spirit) Bound to this flesh This guise, this mask, this dream Wake up, remember (We are born of) One breath, one word (We are all) One spark, Son becoming Pneuma Reach out and beyond Wake up, remember (We are born of) One breath, one word (We are all) One spark, eyes full of wonder". 'The ego offers magic and hallucinations. Delusions.' That is right. And do you know who is affected by this? Everyone. There is no one exception. 'The Spirit offers Miracles and Reality. Freely. Naturally' No. The human mind cannot comprehend what is real or an illusion without the intervention of this intelligence. 'Child, release The light.' What kind of light is meant by this? As far as I know, no past and present form of being has been able to put it into a proper context. Light and darkness has artificial origin. The innermost, the origin of a being would therefore have to be something else. This also concerns something that causes all this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Origin said: 'The ego offers magic and hallucinations. Delusions.' That is right. And do you know who is affected by this? Everyone. There is no one exception. 'The Spirit offers Miracles and Reality. Freely. Naturally' No. The human mind cannot comprehend what is real or an illusion without the intervention of this intelligence. 'Child, release The light.' What kind of light is meant by this? As far as I know, no past and present form of being has been able to put it into a proper context. Light and darkness has artificial origin. The innermost, the origin of a being would therefore have to be something else. This also concerns something that causes all this. It's all just metaphor, analogy, that's the only way to communicate as/in an attempt at close approximation to truth about REALITY while in this state(dream). There is an inner Knowing that can be activated...that's the point.. In the context you quoted it looks to me--"release the light" means let yourself be Real, don't repress youself anymore...Be As You Really-Truely Are, make that your will and it will be so...no matter if one knows/remembers the full scope and scale of that or not...Be Real...there's nothing to lose there, except limiting illusions... Edited January 5, 2022 by novymir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, novymir said: It's all just metaphor, analogy, that's the only way to communicate as/in an attempt at close approximation to truth about REALITY while in this state(dream). There is an inner Knowing that can be activated...that's the point.. Communicate? Your form of expression and understanding of your version of truth. It's amazing that you take the liberty of judging Guardian. How do you have the ability to know what the intelligence will think about him? That which we say in this existence about others will certainly be perceived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Origin said: Communicate? Your form of expression and understanding of your version of truth. It's amazing that you take the liberty of judging Guardian. How do you have the ability to know what the intelligence will think about him? That which we say in this existence about others will certainly be perceived. Haha..."guardian" is a fricking character on a computer screen....and you come across much or most of the time like some kind of robot assessing humans and attempting to "understand".... what a fun character you are....you won't "figure' it out til you actually do it...unless you are just an artificial intelligence operating here for ...what would that be... yeah, yeah... I won't be continuing this "conversation" with you.....you can come to any conclusion you want........and it won't bother or effect me beyond my own choice of interpretation... Edited January 5, 2022 by novymir typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) TRUTH IS. Truth is One with TRUTH=ONE, and ALL little truths must also be in alignment with PRIME TRUTH, they cannot be at variance in the slightest, or they are then not true, or of The Truth= OF THE ONE. And REALITY IS ONE WITH TRUTH. And is the SAME WAY. There is no separation, no divisions, no contradictions. Period. Anything else is fantasy, nothing and nowhere....delusion.... Go ahead, reject this......see where it gets ya......hell-low? Edited January 5, 2022 by novymir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 7 hours ago, Truthspoon said: I'm just living my life dude.... you're the one running around claiming 'holier than thou' claiming they're better than everyone here.....noone's buying it though. I would help the weak and anyone who may appear mentally ill..... I will fight bullies and hypocrites though. You are such a white knight. Lol It was a joke.... You know, jokes. The guy username is The Mad Man, and he has a crazy guy in a straight jacket as his avatar. The joke clearly went over your head. I know that you think that you are fighting for the light. You are not. You do not represent us. You serve the dark ones. That much is certain. Illusion-spoon feeding himself illusions and trying to shove illusion down other people's throats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 The ideology of love strikes again. The godlings spread their peace, love, and tolerance. It is beautiful. I can truly feel the love... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 5 hours ago, Origin said: It's amazing that you take the liberty of judging Guardian. Ironic isn't it. The people that are not supposed to judge others are constantly judging others. Lol The ideology of love, peace and tolerance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 4 hours ago, Guardian said: Ironic isn't it. The people that are not supposed to judge others are constantly judging others. Lol The ideology of love, peace and tolerance LOL...but you're worse than anyone here.... What a dreadful slimy hypocrite you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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