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4 minutes ago, Pinkiebee said:

I'm prepared to help you. It's not fair to make me  responsible for educating you

 

And I am happy to educate you :)

 

So .... I will make a claim that this 'world' is .... let me see .... 50 years old!

 

Now the same as you .... I cannot prove that claim .... But I am happy to 'guide' you and 'educate' you .... in childish terms if that helps .... but no, it is not for me to prove my research :)

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Just now, zarkov said:

 

I thought the Physical Law of entropy was evident and derived from observation of matter transitioning from a state of order to disorder.

 

Life it appears  moves from a matter state of disorder to a state of order.

Is life exempt from the laws of thermodynamics?

 

 

 

 

I've just explained a few posts back. I'm now not sure if you havent read it or failed to comprehend it..

 

Which leaves me in a quandary on how to answer.

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9 minutes ago, Pinkiebee said:

Im guy sat in his home having a chat about things on the internet 

 

I'm prepared to help you. It's not fair to make me  responsible for educating you. 

It's like giving guitar lessons I advise, you practice on your own

 

I can work google for you if your strugling 

 

@ink

 

This is what get Ink, you get a sly insult mixed with a condescending comment and incendiary rhetoric. SMFH

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4 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

@ink

 

This is what get Ink, you get a sly insult mixed with a condescending comment and incendiary rhetoric. SMFH

 

Yes, but it really doesn't matter if it is directed at me .... I have no problem with it .... but if directed at another member .... then yes I have an issue with it!

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4 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

No, I'm not a creationist. The claim I'm making is this 'THEORY' is fuckin nonsense. 

 

So you when you use the word 'theory', what do you mean exactly? Are you using it in the scientific definition or the common everyday definition? To clarify:

 

"In everyday use, the word "theory" often means an untested hunch, or a guess without supporting evidence. But for scientists, a theory has nearly the opposite meaning. A theory is a well-substantiated explanation of an aspect of the natural world that can incorporate laws, hypotheses and facts." https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/darwin/evolution-today/what-is-a-theory

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Just now, ink said:

 

And I am happy to educate you :)

 

So .... I will make a claim that this 'world' is .... let me see .... 50 years old!

 

Now the same as you .... I cannot prove that claim .... But I am happy to 'guide' you and 'educate' you .... in childish terms if that helps .... but no, it is not for me to prove my research :)

I'm fine with your claim. Well I would be if I hadnt lived longer than that which does make it seem slightly unlikely.  Maybe a parallel universe of some type

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3 minutes ago, ink said:

 

Yes but it really doesn't matter if it is directed at me .... I have no problem with it .... but if directed at another member .... then yes I have an issue with it!

I can take it to a point, but when every reply is the same mix without skipping a beat, it becomes tedious and tiresome. You can make a reply without insulting the person you're talking to. I just find once you disagree with someone they start to insult you like you're stupid for disagreeing with you. But these are the axioms we are brainwashed into. People obviously believe I think everything is a conspiracy which I find hilarious. 

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1 minute ago, DarianF said:

A theory is a well-substantiated explanation of an aspect of the natural world that can incorporate laws, hypotheses and facts.

 

All of which have been funded by concerns who wished for a particular result .... and only the 'correct' result gets published.

All those who did not find the 'correct' result .... no more funding and no more job!

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2 minutes ago, DarianF said:

 

So you when you use the word 'theory', what do you mean exactly? Are you using it in the scientific definition or the common everyday definition? To clarify:

 

"In everyday use, the word "theory" often means an untested hunch, or a guess without supporting evidence. But for scientists, a theory has nearly the opposite meaning. A theory is a well-substantiated explanation of an aspect of the natural world that can incorporate laws, hypotheses and facts." https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/darwin/evolution-today/what-is-a-theory

Oh dear. 

 

An unproved assumption, conjecture. 

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Just now, ink said:

 

All of which have been funded by concerns who wished for a particular result .... and only the 'correct' result gets published.

All those who did not find the 'correct' result .... no more funding and no more job!

What concern would want the earth to be say 4 and half billion years old and why ?

 

And why did they want it to be younger before that ?

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1 minute ago, ink said:

 

All of which have been funded by concerns who wished for a particular result .... and only the 'correct' result gets published.

All those who did not find the 'correct' result .... no more funding and no more job!

 

Not true. There is always vigorous debate in the scientific community. Over time, old theories or hypotheses get overturned with new evidence. This is happening all the time, in all branches of science. Any scientist who claims their work cannot possibly be overturned or updated with new evidence, is not a genuine scientist.

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2 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

Oh dear. 

 

An unproved assumption, conjecture. 

 

Okay, so you don't understand the difference between how scientists use the word theory, as opposed to how the general public uses it. Thanks for clarifying.

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1 minute ago, DarianF said:

 

Okay, so you don't understand the difference between how scientists use the word theory, as opposed to how the general public uses it. Thanks for clarifying.

Oh I do, I just purposely chose that definition to prove a point. There's your clarification. Come on mate, you're better than this. 🕊️

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Just now, Morpheus said:

One that wants people to believe we've evolved from monkies. 

So why did they want it to be younger in previous estimates?

 

Nb we are not descended from monkeys.  At least learn enough to put up a fair fight 

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Just now, Pinkiebee said:

So why did they want it to be younger in previous estimates?

 

Nb we are not descended from monkeys.  At least learn enough to put up a fair fight 

If you cannot recognise sarcasm maybe it's best that we don't engage any further. 👍

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Just now, Morpheus said:

One that wants people to believe we've evolved from monkies. 

 

Evolutionary biology doesn't claim we evolved from monkeys (or chimps, for that matter):

 

"Humans and monkeys are both primates. But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor. All apes and monkeys share a more distant relative, which lived about 25 million years ago." https://humanorigins.si.edu/education/frequently-asked-questions

 

I'm glad we cleared up that common misunderstanding.

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3 minutes ago, DarianF said:

There is always vigorous debate in the scientific community

 

The last 2 years proves that as false (should I get a 'fact checker' .... maybe facebook or google)

 

3 minutes ago, DarianF said:

between how scientists use the word theory, as opposed to how the general public uses it

 

What is this .... the same as normal people use English compared to the way the legal system does?

Or are we just defining words to mean whatever we wish?

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1 minute ago, Morpheus said:

Oh I do, I just purposely chose that definition to prove a point. There's your clarification. Come on mate, you're better than this. 🕊️

 

Hypothesis would be a better word, if you want to avoid any future misunderstandings. Just a suggestion. 😉

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Just now, Morpheus said:

If you cannot recognise sarcasm maybe it's best that we don't engage any further. 👍

I'm fine with that. But just for the record how did it meet the defintion of sarcasm.  

 

Sarcasm isnt the same as just being wrong 

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1 minute ago, DarianF said:

 

Hypothesis would be a better word, if you want to avoid any future misunderstandings. Just a suggestion. 😉

No worries mate, I'll use hypothesis going forward for absolute clarity. 👊😊

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1 minute ago, ink said:

 

The last 2 years proves that as false (should I get a 'fact checker' .... maybe facebook or google)

 

 

What is this .... the same as normal people use English compared to the way the legal system does?

Or are we just defining words to mean whatever we wish?

 

Just like a plumber uses the word 'pump' differently to a pornstar. 😘

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