Guest Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 13 minutes ago, Pinkiebee said: I cant prove 4 billion years. Ok thanks .... can you prove .... 14 minutes ago, Pinkiebee said: the late heavy bombardment then :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, DarianF said: Because you're repeating a common creationist misconception, and you've now ignored the explanations that debunk it. Debunk it! Yes Wikipedia and knob head Dawkins have it all figured out. Go back to sleep everyone, here's 24 hours of gladiators with steroid pumped freaks smashing the shit out of each other with plastic sticks. Go back to sleep everyone........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkiebee Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, zarkov said: Wouldnt the formation of planets & stars be classed as going from a state of disorder to a state of order! Much like the existence of bacteria. Seems counterintuitive in terms of entropy! Well they too are part of the entropy mechanism. The law doesnt say that it must go from order to disorder directly it says a closed system so that's the whole universe in this case TENDS toward to entropy over time . So blips in the graph are fine we are still on our way to the heat death of the universe Or" how are we going to get rid of all this hydrogen? I know we will set fire to it. That will work" Edited April 15, 2022 by Pinkiebee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pinkiebee said: The process didnt go from fish directly to mammals so that's an unlikely find And your unlikely to ever find a 50/ 50 split between two species coz that's not generaly how it works and if there was such there would only be one generation of them out of a few hundred million years of generation. So a bit hard to track down Of course, whatever fits the narrative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Morpheus said: How convenient. There's also no such thing as scientific proof either, because there are no proofs in science, only in maths and logic are there proofs. They're self contained systems of propositions, whereas science deals with the empirical. So to be clear, we have two types of science, empirical and pseudo science. We know which one many people deal with that's for sure. There's a good discussion on types of evidence here, along with the common misunderstandings: https://evolution-outreach.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1007/s12052-011-0371-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkiebee Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Just now, ink said: Ok thanks .... can you prove .... then :) I didnt actualy offer proof I offered guidance . If you rephrase the question so it's in line with my offer il do my best to help you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 1 minute ago, DarianF said: There's a good discussion on types of evidence here, along with the common misunderstandings: https://evolution-outreach.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1007/s12052-011-0371-0 I'll read that, because it's not Wikipedia or Richard Dawkins. I'll check back with you. Got any fossils of half bird half mammal yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkiebee Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Just now, Morpheus said: I'll read that, because it's not Wikipedia or Richard Dawkins. I'll check back with you. Got any fossils of half bird half mammal yet? Nor did mammals turn into birds or vice versa. Your struggling wiith the basic concept . Il see if I can find a lady bird book for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 15 minutes ago, zarkov said: Wouldnt the formation of planets & stars be classed as going from a state of disorder to a state of order! Much like the existence of bacteria. Seems counterintuitive in terms of entropy! Some say evolution would violate the law of thermodynamics. I'm not that good at calculations, but feel free to check these out: http://physics.gmu.edu/~roerter/EvolutionEntropy.htm Here is more about The Second Law of Thermodynamics and evolution: https://evolution-outreach.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1007/s12052-009-0195-3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Pinkiebee said: Nor did mammals turn into birds or vice versa. Your struggling wiith the basic concept . Il see if I can find a lady bird book for you No, I'm really not. You're failing to provide any proof of your 'THEORY'. What makes me laugh is the very person who's forum this is hates Richard Dawkins and doesn't believe in evolutionary 'THEORY' either. I think the evolutionists should listen to our Dave about what he thinks about human evolution. Edited April 15, 2022 by Morpheus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Morpheus said: I'll read that, because it's not Wikipedia or Richard Dawkins. I'll check back with you. Got any fossils of half bird half mammal yet? You still looking for the Crocoduck are you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Pinkiebee said: I didnt actualy offer proof I offered guidance So no actual proof .... but you are happy to 'guide' me out of the 'maze' I am in? And do that so a 'child' could understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkiebee Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Just now, Morpheus said: No, I'm really not. You're failing to provide any proof of your 'THEORY'. What makes me laugh is the very person who's forum this is hates Richard Dawkins and doesn't believe in evolutionary 'THEORY' either. I think the evolutionists should listen to our Dave about what he thinks about human evolution. Its a) not a theory b) not my theory and c) not my job to prove it to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Just now, Pinkiebee said: not my job to prove it to you. On this discussion thread .... Yes it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkiebee Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Just now, ink said: So no actual proof .... but you are happy to 'guide' me out of the 'maze' I am in? And do that so a 'child' could understand? Im beginning to think I may have to dumb it down a bit more than that. But hell il give it ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkiebee Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Just now, ink said: On this discussion thread .... Yes it is! No it really isnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Just now, Pinkiebee said: But hell il give it ago Give a go at showing some actual proof! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Morpheus said: No, I'm really not. You're failing to provide any proof of your 'THEORY'. What makes me laugh is the very person who's forum this is hates Richard Dawkins and doesn't believe in evolutionary 'THEORY' either. I think the evolutionists should listen to our Dave about what he thinks about human evolution. I notice you are obsessed with Richard Dawkins. Are you a secret fan, but can't admit it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 16 minutes ago, Morpheus said: Debunk it! Yes Wikipedia and knob head Dawkins have it all figured out. Go back to sleep everyone, here's 24 hours of gladiators with steroid pumped freaks smashing the shit out of each other with plastic sticks. Go back to sleep everyone........ Okay, so you're not a creationist. You just repeat creationist claims. I accept that. Just clarifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pinkiebee said: No it really isnt Oh no it isn't .... Oh yes it is .... Oh no it isn't .... Oh yes it is .... etc I return to the initial question I asked .... Prove the 4 billion years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkiebee Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Just now, ink said: Give a go at showing some actual proof! Im guy sat in his home having a chat about things on the internet I'm prepared to help you. It's not fair to make me responsible for educating you. It's like giving guitar lessons I advise, you practice on your own I can work google for you if your strugling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkiebee Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, ink said: Oh no it isn't .... Oh yes it is .... Oh no it isn't .... Oh yes it is .... etc I return to the initial question I asked .... Prove the 4 billion years? Sorry to have point out the obvious ! But" prove 4 billion years" is not a question, even if you put a ? at the end Edited April 15, 2022 by Pinkiebee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 15 minutes ago, DarianF said: You still looking for the Crocoduck are you? I see them all the time round our way, along with the flying pigs and badger maid's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarkov Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pinkiebee said: Well they too are part of the entropy mechanism. The law doesnt say that it must go from order to disorder directly it says a closed system so that's the whole universe in this case TENDS toward to entropy over time . So blips in the graph are fine we are still on our way to the heat death of the universe Or" how are we going to get rid of all this hydrogen? I know we will set fire to it. That will work" I thought the Physical Law of entropy was evident and derived from observation of matter transitioning from a state of order to disorder. Life it appears moves from a matter state of disorder to a state of order. Is life exempt from the laws of thermodynamics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, DarianF said: Okay, so you're not a creationist. You just repeat creationist claims. I accept that. Just clarifying. No, I'm not a creationist. The claim I'm making is this 'THEORY' is fuckin nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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