The End Days

[pi3141]

13 hours ago, RobSS said:

If you'd carried on reading, do you think may have learned something?

 

Lol.

 

So you don't read what you think you won't like. I on the other hand will read anything to see if it resonates, sounds like fantasy or has some merit. I am not a Satanist but I have read their material because I think knowledge is important, I follow it where it takes me. I know their arguments, and it enriches my knowledge, all knowledge is useful even the useless stuff or the stuff you don't like.

 

Same with the Right Wing crap, I'm not Right Wing but I have read their material so I am able to engage in meaningful discussion if the opportunity arises.

 

I seek knowledge Rob.

 

I think it is useful to know both sides of the argument, you seem to be encouraging others not to bother, I think thats close minded. I know, some Christians don't want to read anything that challenges their faith. Must be insecurity. 

Edited January 6, 2022 by pi3141

[RobSS]

4 hours ago, pi3141 said:

 

So you don't read what you think you won't like. I on the other hand will read anything to see if it resonates, sounds like fantasy or has some merit. I am not a Satanist but I have read their material because I think knowledge is important, I follow it where it takes me. I know their arguments, and it enriches my knowledge, all knowledge is useful even the useless stuff or the stuff you don't like.

 

Same with the Right Wing crap, I'm not Right Wing but I have read their material so I am able to engage in meaningful discussion if the opportunity arises.

 

I seek knowledge Rob.

 

I think it is useful to know both sides of the argument, you seem to be encouraging others not to bother, I think thats close minded. I know, some Christians don't want to read anything that challenges their faith. Must be insecurity. 

 

 

pi3141,

 

You're making things up... where did I say I don't read what I don't like?

 

Rob

 

 

 

 

[RobSS]

4 hours ago, pi3141 said:

Synchronicity.

 

Just watching 'Ancient Aliens - The Pharaoh's Curse' on Blaze and some Egyptologist said that the Egyptian pharaoh Thutmose may have been Moses and so the Egyptian religion of 'One God, with no image' could have been given to the Israelite's by the Egyptian Pharaoh.

 

If thats true then it shows Christianity is an extension of the Pagan Egyptian Mystery religions as Rev Robert Taylor and others contend.

 

Christianity is not an extension of the Pagan Egyptian Mystery religion. The Pagan Mystery religion is the product of Satan in opposition to God.

"One has to ask, which Thutmose you are referring to - there were four. However, in brief, the answer has to be “No!”

A better question would be, is the character of Moses dated to the early 18th Dynasty? The answer to this would be yes. In the 18th Dynasty, the name “Moses” was a very popular name, possibly due to the Pharaohs having this name. “Thutmose” basically means “son of/born of Thut”. You might ask why the Moses of the Bible does not have any reference to a god? that is easily answered in that the Hebrews would not have acknowledged the existence of any other god, other than YHVH (many Hebrew names do include the Name “Yah/YHVH”). Thus, it is quite understandable for the Hebrew writers to have referred to him by maybe his popular, diminutive family name - just as we call our son “Ben”, whilst his actual name is “Benjamin”.

Did Moses have a Hebrew name, which his Mother, Yochabed gave him? The answer is yes, we find it in the Hebrew of Judges 18:30 - it was ”Manasseh”. However, it is obvious that the authors of the Bible continued to use his popular, diminutive name of “Moses”, given to him & used by his adoptive mother.

No, Moses was not any of the four Pharaohs called “Thutmose” but he had been adopted into the dynastic family that liked to use this name."

https://www.quora.com/Was-Thutmose-actually-Moses

 

 

 

[pi3141]

4 hours ago, RobSS said:

Christianity is not an extension of the Pagan Egyptian Mystery religion. The Pagan Mystery religion is the product of Satan in opposition to God.

 

No, Moses was not any of the four Pharaohs called “Thutmose” but he had been adopted into the dynastic family that liked to use this name."

https://www.quora.com/Was-Thutmose-actually-Moses

 

Ok, thanks for the reply.

 

It says in Acts, Moses was learned in the wisdom of the Egyptians. So I wonder what knowledge that was and did any of it filter down into his teachings?

 

What do you think, what was the Wisdom Moses was taught and did he pass it on?

[RobSS]

7 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

 

Ok, thanks for the reply.

 

It says in Acts, Moses was learned in the wisdom of the Egyptians. So I wonder what knowledge that was and did any of it filter down into his teachings?

 

What do you think, what was the Wisdom Moses was taught and did he pass it on?

 

It's not surprising Moses learned the wisdom of the Egyptians, he was brought up as an Egyptian, but as he grew older, we was directed by God.

 

Btw, where did I say I don't read what I don't like?

 

You accused me of that, but I'd like to know where you got that from, thanks.

 

Rob

 

 

[alexa]

37 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

 

It says in Acts, Moses was learned in the wisdom of the Egyptians.

 

This is bound to be the case as Moses was bought up within the Egyptian Royal House until (you'll be shocked to hear) he murdered an Egyptian slave driver, so he had to flee, but Moses & Aaron came back with vengeance, but I wouldn't put Moses's teaching down to an extension of pagan religion.

 

Edited January 6, 2022 by alexa

[bobb]

38 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

 

Ok, thanks for the reply.

 

It says in Acts, Moses was learned in the wisdom of the Egyptians. So I wonder what knowledge that was and did any of it filter down into his teachings?

 

What do you think, what was the Wisdom Moses was taught and did he pass it on?

 

I think this is the primary reason why Moses was not allowed to enter Israel, however you wish to interpret it, makes sense to me as he was schooled by Pharaoh teachings, so as not to pollute the Promised Land.

[Deus Vult]

On 1/2/2022 at 10:06 PM, alexa said:

 

Thank you for posting this thought provoking piece.

 

Let us not dwell in the past brothers and siters and instead strive forward into the future creating oasis of truth in the wilderness of our world for those who have opened their hearts to God.

 

Every human being deserves the opportunity to hear the truth.

 

[pi3141]

1 hour ago, RobSS said:

You accused me of that, but I'd like to know where you got that from, thanks.

 

Rob

 

From your post that I quoted.

 

You seemed indirectly to discourage reading of the material and hence I deduced that you may be selective in your reading too.

[pi3141]

1 hour ago, alexa said:

 but I wouldn't put Moses's teaching down to an extension of pagan religion.

 

 

But how much was he and his teaching influenced by it.

[RobSS]

12 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

 

From your post that I quoted.

 

You seemed indirectly to discourage reading of the material and hence I deduced that you may be selective in your reading too.

 

In that post I said that you can learn something from reading. I didn't say that you shouldn't read what you don't like.

 

So I ask you again, where did I say you shouldn't read what you don't like?

 

Rob

 

 

[alexa]

1 hour ago, pi3141 said:

 

But how much was he and his teaching influenced by it.

 

He was more influenced by God.

[alexa]

8 hours ago, Deus Vult said:

Thank you for posting this thought provoking piece.

 

Let us not dwell in the past brothers and siters and instead strive forward into the future creating oasis of truth in the wilderness of our world for those who have opened their hearts to God.

 

Every human being deserves the opportunity to hear the truth.

 

 

Thanks Deus Vult & welcome to the forum 

[alexa]

Let us not forget the Bible:

2 Peter 3:10

"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up"

Isaiah 51:6

"Lift up your eyes to the heavens, look at the earth beneath; the heavens will vanish like smoke, the earth will wear out like a garment and its inhabitants die like flies.

[pi3141]

11 hours ago, RobSS said:

 

In that post I said that you can learn something from reading. I didn't say that you shouldn't read what you don't like.

 

So I ask you again, where did I say you shouldn't read what you don't like?

 

Rob

 

I'll answer again, I inferred from your comment that you don't read what you don't like and you seemed to be encouraging others not to.

 

Let me ask you, what answer did you think you would get from that comment - 'do you think you would have learned anything' and what was the purpose or motivation for that comment?

 

Nows your chance to set me straight and explain it.

[pi3141]

10 hours ago, alexa said:

He was more influenced by God.

 

Which God?

 

The 'One God with no image? As taught by the Egyptians.

 

Or the other One God?

[alexa]

13 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

 

Which God?

 

The 'One God with no image? As taught by the Egyptians.

 

Or the other One God?

 

There is only one true God, the God of Abraham,Jacob & Issac.

[PatriotGirl]

21 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

There is only one true God, the God of Abraham,Jacob & Issac.

And the only way to God is through Jesus

[bobb]

1 hour ago, alexa said:

 

There is only one true God, the God of Abraham,Jacob & Issac.

 

Wrong, the God of all who was in the beginning without whom nothing could be made, THAT ONE, THE ALL.

[bobb]

4 hours ago, alexa said:

Let us not forget the Bible:

2 Peter 3:10

"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up"

Isaiah 51:6

"Lift up your eyes to the heavens, look at the earth beneath; the heavens will vanish like smoke, the earth will wear out like a garment and its inhabitants die like flies.

 

These are some nice quotes and all, but what does the word REPENT mean then?

[RobSS]

6 hours ago, pi3141 said:

 

I'll answer again, I inferred from your comment that you don't read what you don't like and you seemed to be encouraging others not to.

 

Let me ask you, what answer did you think you would get from that comment - 'do you think you would have learned anything' and what was the purpose or motivation for that comment?

 

Nows your chance to set me straight and explain it.

 

Okay, so you thought I was being sarcastic, but I wasn't, which is why I thoughtfully used the word "may", but you misquoted what I wrote to make it seem like I was inferring the opposite to what I was saying.

I wasn't saying that the poster would learn something, as that would've be telling someone what to think, and would be rude, which is why I used the word "may", which has a polite sound to it.

 

You quoted me as saying:

 

'do you think you would have learned anything'

 

Here's what I actually wrote:

 

"If you'd carried on reading, do you think [you] may have learned something?"

 

By misquoting what I wrote, and changing the words "may" to "would", and "something" to "anything", you changed the vibe of what I wrote to suit what you wanted to imagine that I wrote!

 

I notice I left out the word "you" and should've written "do you think you may have learned something", but that doesn't affect the sense of what I wrote anyway.

 

Rob

Edited January 7, 2022 by RobSS

[alexa]

6 hours ago, bobb said:

 

These are some nice quotes and all, but what does the word REPENT mean then?

 

Repentance means to be really sorry & to give up the wrong you are doing, turning from going your own way to going God's way.

[bobb]

17 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

Repentance means to be really sorry & to give up the wrong you are doing, turning from going your own way to going God's way.

 

Actually the word repent is derived from the word Metanoia, and it means to rethink, which is not the same as the former as everyone associates it with beating yourself up, so in a sense, yes to turn away from bad habits, but more importantly to understand that your thinking is wrong in the first place, and that's it in a nutshell, and all that is required.

Edited January 7, 2022 by bobb

[Truthspoon]

15 minutes ago, bobb said:

 

Actually the word repent is derived from the word Metanoia

 

Read that again to yourself and realise that you do not know what you are talking about.

 

Repent is Latin origin, Metanoia is Greek.

So no.

 

I would argue also that Metanoia is more a transformative experience... and that is the meaning of the word.... 

 

Repent is a different concept. Relating to 'penitere' regret.

 

I would say Metanoia would be better translated by the metaphorical phrase:  'born again'

 

 

 

Edited January 7, 2022 by Truthspoon

[bobb]

15 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

Read that again to yourself and realise that you do not know what you are talking about.

 

Repent is Latin origin, Metanoia is Greek.

So no.

 

I would argue also that Metanoia is more a transformative experience... and that is the meaning of the word.... 

 

Repent is a different concept. Relating to 'penitere' regret.

 

I would say Metanoia would be better translated by the metaphorical phrase:  'born again'

 

 

 

 

T spoon you are more stupid than I thought, compliment repaid!!!

Edited January 7, 2022 by bobb
that fuked he/she/it off, wonder if the next post is like a bazillion lines long with 10ft fonts