bobb Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, novymir said: The Sun(Son) isn't a burning ball in the sky, it's the hole(portal) in this separated bubble of consciousness that is encompassed by The Son Sounds a lot like Rupert Sheldrake, lot's of interesting ideas from him that I have been meaning to explore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSky Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 See the sacred heart? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, bobb said: And what about Satan's stated claim to raise his throne higher than that of God's, do you think it makes more sense from this perspective, their aim is unfortunately tied in with Satan's downfall, you can see it, but can they. Satan doesn't need to follow the Revelation as a script because he'd already devised his long-term agenda long before Revelation was written. Revelation exposes that agenda, adding extra details how the agenda will fail, and what will succeed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 21 minutes ago, pi3141 said: But it seems to promote an 'Us and Them' scenario, the believers against the non believers No, it's not about the Believer's being against the unbeliever's, it is more about conveying information about our place in existence, and there are much greater forces at work than we might imagine whilst being stupid and running wild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, RobSS said: Satan doesn't need to follow the Revelation as a script because he'd already devised his long-term agenda long before Revelation was written. Revelation exposes that agenda, adding extra details how the agenda will fail, and what will succeed it. Yes and his arrogance and snobbery is his downfall, God knows this, so why is God bothering to tell people that are willing to listen, for exactly this purpose I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, bobb said: And what about Satan's stated claim to raise his throne higher than that of God's, This must be the biggest JOKE in Eternity(Reality)!!!!!! Seriously(!). That little pipsqueak? It doesn't even have any Truth or Reality to it>>>>ego>>>>>mr.bigtalk.... True Will Will Prevail over a silly fantasy. It already has.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, novymir said: This must be the biggest JOKE in Eternity(Reality)!!!!!! Seriously(!). That little pipsqueak? It doesn't even have any Truth or Reality to it>>>>ego>>>>>mr.bigtalk.... True Will Will Prevail over a silly fantasy. It already has.... It is a joke and if you don't pay attention you will be the punch line, but if you think there is no cosmic war going on, well I guess there is no spoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmaxxxx Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, BlueSky said: See the sacred heart? very astute, yes look inward and learn to use your third eye NOT the two eyes which gaze on the unreal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, bobb said: Yes and his arrogance and snobbery is his downfall, God knows this, so why is God bothering to tell people that are willing to listen, for exactly this purpose I say. God's letting people know that there's an alternative way to following the way of the world and Satan's agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 minute ago, RobSS said: God's letting people know that there's an alternative way to following the way of the world and Satan's agenda. Exactly that if I read your statement right, I mean why bother saying anything at all about things to come unless He wants us blameless and out of harms way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 40 minutes ago, pi3141 said: But it seems to promote an 'Us and Them' scenario, the believers against the non believers as do all the the main religions where all of them are the true religion in the end. Even Christ said the wheat would be separated from the chaff. so there already, you have an "us and them" situation, but it's not any humans who will ultimately judge as only God can judge. There's wisdom in Christ's parable, which you seem to be blind to for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 44 minutes ago, novymir said: Don't be surprised if He/It comes as a great big fireball from the sun, and basically engulfs this so-called earth and burns all "matter" instantly, leaving only the True Spirits----erasing this silly-assed dream....and then; What Was, And Is, and Ever Shall BE Real shall be a CompleteUnity again. Or, the hole in the sky known as the "Sun" gets bigger and bigger, and lets in The Truth at an intensity that WILL instantly disintegrate/dissolve this fake "world". The Sun(Son) isn't a burning ball in the sky, it's the hole(portal) in this separated bubble of consciousness that is encompassed by The Son(Totality Infinite Creation--SPIRIT), within ALL-ENCOMPASSING GOD. This bubble of consciousness is self-quarantining, The Truth can come in, but the untruth cannot leave. The Infinte Sun-Son is all around, we are a part that ,virtually separated, this "world"(our consciousness Being) is surrounded by It, within It---as consciousness--Spirit. The physical isn't real, we're dreaming it up. This thing(illusion) is like The Truman Show, only we're all Truman's, and Kristoff is the imposter "creator", Kristoff= Christ-off= anti-Christ. The Real One Knows what's going on here...there WILL BE A HAPPY ENDING. No matter how it ends. The sun is a created object. It's part of material reality. In Divine reality, there is no sun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Just now, bobb said: It is a joke and if you don't pay attention you will be the punch line, but if you think there is no cosmic war going on, well I guess there is no spoon. You would deny The Power and Glory of GOD? (there is no other "power"). Yeah, there is no spoon, there is no "world", except in the fantasizer's mind. And fragment by fragment they go home, and it shrinks...Prodigal Son. There is no "cosmic war", the war is in your, our, heads(minds actually)----between The True and the false, The Real and the unreal..bi-polar/split mind..this world is the result of giving untruth, and unreality validity and acceptance, slipping into a dream of separation, fear, guilt and false-judgements,, then the ego took over...and constructed the egoMatrix to preserve and protect itself, an artificial, unreal idea of identity...a false "will" hostile to True Self... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, novymir said: There is no "cosmic war", the war is in your, our, heads(minds actually)----between The True and the false, The Real and the unreal..bi-polar/split mind..this world is the result of giving untruth, and unreality validity and acceptance, slipping into a dream of separation, fear, guilt and false-judgements,, then the ego took over...and constructed the egoMatrix to preserve and protect itself, an artificial, unreal idea of identity...a false "will" hostile to True Self... The cosmic war is real because all the individual minds that make cosmic reality, are also real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, novymir said: You would deny The Power and Glory of GOD? (there is no other "power"). Yeah, there is no spoon, there is no "world", except in the fantasizer's mind. And fragment by fragment they go home, and it shrinks...Prodigal Son. There is no "cosmic war", the war is in your, our, heads(minds actually)----between The True and the false, The Real and the unreal..bi-polar/split mind..this world is the result of giving untruth, and unreality validity and acceptance, slipping into a dream of separation, fear, guilt and false-judgements,, then the ego took over...and constructed the egoMatrix to preserve and protect itself, an artificial, unreal idea of identity...a false "will" hostile to True Self... And of course you know absolutely everything there is to know in this vast expanse of EXISTENCE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, RobSS said: Even Christ said the wheat would be separated from the chaff. so there already, you have an "us and them" situation, but it's not any humans who will ultimately judge as only God can judge. There's wisdom in Christ's parable, which you seem to be blind to for some reason. Ever heard of sophia the sexbot, umm now what were you on about, wheat and tares was it, wheat and chaff was it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Just now, RobSS said: The sun is a created object. It's part of material reality. In Divine reality, there is no sun. No it's not, it's an illusury/physical representation/expression of consciousness, it's analogous. A physical metaphor for what is before and beyond, and the condition/situation of our consciousness in relation to the Greater consciousness not bound up in this fake world. Nothing about this "world" qualifies as "reality". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, RobSS said: The cosmic war is real because all the individual minds that make cosmic reality, are also real. Haha, if you want your "cosmic war", I won't try to take it away from you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Just now, novymir said: Haha, if you want your "cosmic war", I won't try to take it away from you... I don't want it, it's just a fact of what's going on. If you want to stick you're head in the sand and imagine it's not happening, fine, but why are you here then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Just now, novymir said: No it's not, it's an illusury/physical representation/expression of consciousness, it's analogous. A physical metaphor for what is before and beyond, and the condition/situation of our consciousness in relation to the Greater consciousness not bound up in this fake world. Nothing about this "world" qualifies as "reality". Okay you're a firm thinker of the holographic universe, well ok lets do a reality check shall we, place one hand on a table and then with the other, smack that hand on the table with a hammer, now I am guessing that would hurt, so reality confirmed because it don't get more real than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Just now, bobb said: Okay you're a firm thinker of the holographic universe, well ok lets do a reality check shall we, place one hand on a table and then with the other, smack that hand on the table with a hammer, now I am guessing that would hurt, so reality confirmed because it don't get more real than that. Yeah, yeah, you're still in the Hylic stage....been there, done that....there's much better if you want.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Just now, novymir said: Yeah, yeah, you're still in the Hylic stage....been there, done that....there's much better if you want.... Well the Holographic universe is in fact a reality, you have to understand it from the point of Data, and Data can be shared in an instant no matter the distance in this existence, faster than light, but data only becomes Information when interpreted by a self aware being, such as yourself of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, RobSS said: I don't want it, it's just a fact of what's going on. If you want to stick you're head in the sand and imagine it's not happening, fine, but why are you here then? That's the funny thing about Truth....they complain, and complain, and when it shows up,,,, they turn away from It.. try to stamp It out, try to kill It..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, bobb said: Well the Holographic universe is in fact a reality, you have to understand it from the point of Data, and Data can be shared in an instant no matter the distance in this existence, faster than light, but data only becomes Information when interpreted by a self aware being, such as yourself of course. It's an unholy dream. Edited January 4, 2022 by novymir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 minute ago, novymir said: It's an unholy dream. maybe, but you are the star of the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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