The End Days

[alexa]

4 hours ago, bobb said:

 

And do you have any idea about the word repent, I ask because you posted a whole load of words there but I am not sure that you understand correctly, it seems more like a sales pitch.

 

I'm sorry if it came over that way to you, it wasn't meant as a sales pitch, what have I to gain from a sales pitch ?

I know quite well about the word repent, why do you ask ?

[bobb]

37 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

I don't see anything in the Bible that says the tribulation is the Great Reset.. the tribulation is a general term to describe a period of global turmoil leading up to the Christ's Second Coming. To avoid the misunderstanding, I should've been more specific, and asked, does anyone have any opinions whether they think the Second Coming will come before or after the Great Reset, or before or after the establishment of the New World Order?

 

 

 

Why, you made plans or something?

I got my house in order as best I can, so it don't bother me, but there will be many who are going to have a rude awakening so I made plans for this too, if a slap round the face don't calm em down, think airplane scene, then I am going to bash their brains in, yes i'm nice sometimes

[bobb]

14 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

I'm sorry if it came over that way to you, it wasn't meant as a sales pitch, what have I to gain from a sales pitch ?

I know quite well about the word repent, why do you ask ?

 

Well you avoided the question quite cleverly, but you are up against a very persistent foe here, so what does it mean then, or can't you read, yes i'm an annoying bastard at times.

[RobSS]

4 minutes ago, bobb said:

 

Why, you made plans or something?

I got my house in order as best I can, so it don't bother me, but there will be many who are going to have a rude awakening so I made plans for this too, if a slap round the face don't calm em down, think airplane scene, then I am going to bash their brains in, yes i'm nice sometimes

 

Yes, I do have plans... ta for replying.

 

 

 

[bobb]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

 

Yes, I do have plans... ta for replying.

 

 

 

 

Am I coming, are we still going down the pub?

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, bobb said:

 

Am I coming, are we still going down the pub?

 

We'll see!

 

 

[alexa]

24 minutes ago, bobb said:

 

Well you avoided the question quite cleverly, but you are up against a very persistent foe here, so what does it mean then, or can't you read, yes i'm an annoying bastard at times.

 

Just google it, I'm sure you don't need me to tell you what 'Repent' means.

[bobb]

3 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

Just google it, I'm sure you don't need me to tell you what 'Repent' means.

 

You don't know do you!

Secondly are you the author of that book, where it looks like a rerun of stars in their eyes, "Well tonight Matthew I am going to be.........."

[pi3141]

For my 2 cents the message from the Spirits is that Jesus is not coming back, he's too far advanced in his fathers many mansions.

 

Secondly the return of Christ can be seen as an astrological event when the Sun again rises in the constellation Pisces, we are 23,000 years away from that so that puts the End Times very far away.

 

Thirdly, why the hell do you want Jesus to return? To save you? Didn't he do enough the first time round? He laid his life down for what he believed and taught us. Hasn't he done enough for you people? Save yourselves.

 

Fourthly, the rapture doctrine was invented in the 19th Century by some guy in the USA it is not core Christian belief. Its another fake doctrine. Even the Catholics don't believe it.

 

Fifthly, the doctrine of Jesus's return to save everyone seems to fit quite nicely with the PTB ideology to control the population, your waiting for someone else to come along and do what you should do yourselves, meanwhile the Church continues to get rich and powerful from your fear. Save yourselves.

 

Finally, when Jesus spoke of the End Times he was talking to the others about what they would witness in their lifetime. According to one professor, some of the Biblical stories can be seen as Political records of the time encoded into Biblical stories. When reading the End times you may well be reading secret political history or future political events foretold and encoded in story form.

 

[PatriotGirl]

3 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

For my 2 cents the message from the Spirits is that Jesus is not coming back, he's too far advanced in his fathers many mansions.

 

Secondly the return of Christ can be seen as an astrological event when the Sun again rises in the constellation Pisces, we are 23,000 years away from that so that puts the End Times very far away.

 

Thirdly, why the hell do you want Jesus to return? To save you? Didn't he do enough the first time round? He laid his life down for what he believed and taught us. Hasn't he done enough for you people? Save yourselves.

 

Fourthly, the rapture doctrine was invented in the 19th Century by some guy in the USA it is not core Christian belief. Its another fake doctrine. Even the Catholics don't believe it.

 

Fifthly, the doctrine of Jesus's return to save everyone seems to fit quite nicely with the PTB ideology to control the population, your waiting for someone else to come along and do what you should do yourselves, meanwhile the Church continues to get rich and powerful from your fear. Save yourselves.

 

Finally, when Jesus spoke of the End Times he was talking to the others about what they would witness in their lifetime. According to one professor, some of the Biblical stories can be seen as Political records of the time encoded into Biblical stories. When reading the End times you may well be reading secret political history or future political events foretold and encoded in story form.

 

So you admit the word of Jesus is the highest authority in this world?

[bobb]

5 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

Fifthly, the doctrine of Jesus's return to save everyone seems to fit quite nicely with the PTB ideology to control the population, your waiting for someone else to come along and do what you should do yourselves

 

Yes, this is a very astute observation and something I have been mulling over, something seems to be wrong with the timing of all this, but still better prepared than not.

[pi3141]

7 minutes ago, PatriotGirl said:

So you admit the word of Jesus is the highest authority in this world?

 

Yes, so far.

 

He was the pinnacle, but he himself learnt and evolved from the teachings of others.

[RobSS]

34 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

For my 2 cents the message from the Spirits is that Jesus is not coming back, he's too far advanced in his fathers many mansions.

 

The only problem with that is that's not what Jesus Christ said, and as you're argument is based on that error, all your other conclusions are also in error!

 

Edited January 4, 2022 by RobSS

[RobSS]

22 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

Fifthly, the doctrine of Jesus's return to save everyone seems to fit quite nicely with the PTB ideology to control the population, your waiting for someone else to come along and do what you should do yourselves, meanwhile the Church continues to get rich and powerful from your fear. Save yourselves.

 

 

You're generalising. Not all Christians are doing nothing whilst waiting. That's why the two angels asked  the men of Galilee why they were looking up at the sky after Jesus Christ had ascended. As James Burton Coffman once commented, "The message of the angels to the heavenward gazing apostles has the spiritual effect of challenging every believer to be busily engaged in the service of the Lord, rather than wasting time by gazing into those things which are beyond all human knowledge of them." So no, Jesus Christ's return does not completely fit in nicely with the PTB's ideology to control the population.

 

 

Edited January 4, 2022 by RobSS

[PatriotGirl]

10 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

 

Yes, so far.

 

He was the pinnacle, but he himself learnt and evolved from the teachings of others.

jesus said he'd return. What anyone thinks of it is irrelevant, 

 

“Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame” (Revelation 16:15).

“If therefore you shall not watch, I will come on you as a thief, and you shall not know what hour I will come on you” (Revelation 3:3).

“Be you therefore ready also: for the Son of man comes at an hour when you think not” (Luke 12:40).

“For as the lightning, that lightens out of the one part under heaven, shines to the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in His day. But first must He suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation” (Luke 17:24–25).

“And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom comes; go you out to meet him” (Matthew 25:6).

“Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear My voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with Me” (Revelation 3:20).

“And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory” (Matthew 24:30).

“Behold, He comes with clouds; and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him. Even so, Amen” (Revelation 1:7).

[PatriotGirl]

And this tells you when he will come,

 

"But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be". - Matthew 24:37-39

[pi3141]

@PatriotGirl

Your basing much of the second coming idea on Revelations and we really don't know what Revelations was about. It was a Vision, an Hallucination of a spiritual man and we don't know for certain what its relevance is. Funnily enough, its the next book I will be buying from the Anchor Bible series.

 

I believe the Roman derived Bible most people use has been heavily edited to push a certain type of Christianity, Roman Christianity, and as such I hold with suspicion a lot of what is written in the book. I cannot accept every verse in there as being genuine, it is therefore difficult to know what was originally true among the early Christians and what we now have in the versions of Bibles we have.

Edited January 4, 2022 by pi3141

[RobSS]

17 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

Your basing much of the second coming idea on Revelations and we really don't know what Revelations was about. It was a Vision, an Hallucination of a spiritual man and we don't know for certain what its relevance is. Funnily enough, its the next book I will be buying from the Anchor Bible series.

 

I believe the Roman derived Bible most people use has been heavily edited to push a certain type of Christianity, Roman Christianity, and as such I hold with suspicion a lot of what is written in the book. I cannot accept every verse in there as being genuine, it is therefore difficult to know what was originally true among the early Christians and what we now have in the versions of Bibles we have.

 

Revelation was a vision from Jesus Christ that exposes the NWO agenda, which is why it doesn't make sense that the cabal are following Revelation. Revelation reveals their downfall. The entire Bible coherently portrays the journey from paradise lost to paradise regained. The problem with the nit-pickers is that they look for excuses to find faults and in so doing cannot see the bigger picture.

 

 

Edited January 4, 2022 by RobSS

[bobb]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

 

Revelation was a vision from Jesus Christ that exposes the NWO agenda, which is why it doesn't make sense that the cabal are following Revelation. Revelation reveals their downfall. The entire Bible coherently portrays the journey from paradise lost to paradise regained. The problem with the nit-pickers is that they look for excuses to find faults and in so doing cannot see the bigger picture.

 

 

 

Remember though that the Bible is very much open to interpretation, and what they read they think happens to someone else because of their ego maniacal mind set, popcorn anyone, and enjoy the downfall.

[RobSS]

10 minutes ago, bobb said:

 

Remember though that the Bible is very much open to interpretation, and what they read they think happens to someone else because of their ego maniacal mind set, popcorn anyone, and enjoy the downfall.

 

 

Not for me! 

 

 

Edited January 4, 2022 by RobSS

[pi3141]

1 hour ago, RobSS said:

The only problem with that is that's not what Jesus Christ said, and as you're argument is based on that error, all your other conclusions are wrong, too!

 

 

Just passing on what I have been told, take it or leave it.

 

When Jesus spoke to his disciples about his return it was expected to happen within their lifetimes, it was 'at hand' or 'at the door' all the apostles taught it was due to happen within their lifetime. It didn't happen.

 

When the Bible talks about him returning among the clouds etc it is Solar mythology,where Jesus is the personification of the Sun, entwined in Biblical stories.

 

The Book Of Revelations was hotly debated as to whether or not to include it in the Bible. I hold the Bible is a spellbook, Gospel meaning God News or God Spell, l prefer God Spell as it more accurately describes it, and the Book of Revelations sets Christians on a path which leads to a clash of civilisations which those who have cast the spell desire.

 

It also feeds into the Fear Porn which keeps people in a subdued state of gloom and easily controlled while deferring their own salvation to another to which the Church can step in to exploit.

 

I think all English versions of the Bible are derived from the Roman Latin versions which push a Romanized view of Christianity. It was Constantine'version of Christianity and that is what is taught in most churches.

 

Just my 2 cents

 

 

Edited January 4, 2022 by pi3141

[RobSS]

2 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

 

Just passing on what I have been told, take it or leave it.

 

When Jesus spoke to his disciples about his return it was expected to happen within their lifetimes, it was 'at hand' or 'at the door' all the apostles taught it was due to happen within their lifetime. It didn't happen.

 

When the Bible talks about him returning among the clouds etc it is Solar mythology,where Jesus is the personification of the Sun, entwined in Biblical stories.

 

The Book Of Revelations was hotly debated as to whether or not to include it in the Bible. I hold the Bible is a spellbook, Gospel meaning God News or God Spell, l prefer God Spell as it more accurately describes it, and the Book of Revelations sets Christians on a path which leads to a clash of civilisations which those who have cast the spell desire.

 

All well and good, if that's you're interpretation, except that Jesus Christ never said the events would happen within the lifetime of his disciples. The whole Bible is about the conflict between the sons of Cain and humanity. If you're right that Jesus Christ was a false profit, then the cabal have already won, but I don't think you are right, and unlike you, I believe in Jesus Christ, and I do believe his prophecies are true.

 

2 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

 

It also feeds into the Fear Porn which keeps people in a subdued state of gloom and easily controlled while deferring their own salvation to another to which the Church can step in to exploit.

 

Just my 2 cents

 

 

Reading the 'fear and doom', I think you're projecting you're own erroneous understanding on to the message. You obviously missed the above post, where I wrote that all Christians are doing nothing whilst waiting. That's why the two angels asked  the men of Galilee why they were looking up at the sky after Jesus Christ had ascended. As James Burton Coffman once commented, "The message of the angels to the heavenward gazing apostles has the spiritual effect of challenging every believer to be busily engaged in the service of the Lord, rather than wasting time by gazing into those things which are beyond all human knowledge of them." So no, Jesus Christ's return does not completely fit in nicely with the PTB's ideology to control the population.

 

[pi3141]

1 hour ago, bobb said:

Yes, this is a very astute observation and something I have been mulling over, something seems to be wrong with the timing of all this, but still better prepared than not.

 

Thanks.

 

I question what has been included in the book and why. I do not believe Jesus taught there would be an End Time for all mankind beyond his lifetime so on what authority does John, if it was his vision, have for this hallucination. But it seems to promote an 'Us and Them' scenario, the believers against the non believers as do all the the main religions where all of them are the true religion in the end. It appears to be part of some plan. Its highly interpretative, arguable about what it actually means. I've read it before and I am going to re-read it with a newer translation of it. 

[novymir]

Don't be surprised if He/It comes as a great big fireball from the sun, and basically engulfs this so-called earth and burns all "matter" instantly, leaving only the True Spirits----erasing this silly-assed dream....and then; What Was, And Is, and Ever Shall BE Real shall be a CompleteUnity again. Or, the hole in the sky known as the "Sun" gets bigger and bigger, and lets in The Truth at an intensity that WILL instantly disintegrate/dissolve this fake "world".

The Sun(Son) isn't a burning ball in the sky, it's the hole(portal) in this separated bubble of consciousness that is encompassed by The Son(Totality Infinite Creation--SPIRIT), within ALL-ENCOMPASSING GOD.

This bubble of consciousness is self-quarantining, The Truth can come in, but the untruth cannot leave.

The Infinte Sun-Son is all around, we are a part that ,virtually separated, this "world"(our consciousness Being) is surrounded by It, within It---as consciousness--Spirit. The physical isn't real, we're dreaming it up.

 

This thing(illusion) is like The Truman Show, only we're all Truman's, and Kristoff is the imposter "creator", Kristoff= Christ-off= anti-Christ.

The Real One Knows what's going on here...there WILL BE A HAPPY ENDING. No matter how it ends.

 

 

Edited January 4, 2022 by novymir

[bobb]

 

57 minutes ago, RobSS said:

Revelation was a vision from Jesus Christ that exposes the NWO agenda, which is why it doesn't make sense that the cabal are following Revelation

 

And what about Satan's stated claim to raise his throne higher than that of God's, do you think it makes more sense from this perspective, their aim is unfortunately tied in with Satan's downfall, you can see it, but can they.