Racism against black people is stil a reality

[RobSS]

5 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

one of the 4 pillars of satanism is moral reletavism which is essentially the belief that the only thing that is good is what is good for you personally

 

moral reletavism sees no objective morality. If ethnociding people is good for a satanist then they are fine with it. they have no moral qualm about it

 

Where did I promote the idea that you should only do what's good for you personally? You're putting words into my mouth. I'm doing what I think is best for Christ's kingdom, not what's best for me personally. I'd be okay with sacrificing my life for Christ's kingdom, which is "not of this world".

 

 

Edited January 2, 2022 by RobSS

[Macnamara]

Just now, RobSS said:

Where did I promote the idea that you should only do what's good for you personally? You're putting words into my mouth. I'm doing what I think is best for Christ's kingdom, not what's best for me personally. I'd be okay with sacrificing my life for Christ's kingdom, which is "not of this world".

 

and you alone get to decide what is best for 'christ's kingdom' and if that means ethnociding the people of the british isles then so be it

 

you have your personal jihad to clear out those pesky people from that space to bring in your glorious......thousand year reich?

[RobSS]

Just now, Macnamara said:

 

and you alone get to decide what is best for 'christ's kingdom' and if that means ethnociding the people of the british isles then so be it

 

you have your personal jihad to clear out those pesky people from that space to bring in your glorious......thousand year reich?

 

You're not getting the message... Christ's kingdom is "not of this world", so it's not a question of me having a "personal jihad to clear out those pesky people", as you suggested, and yes, I can chose to follow Christ, rather than follow any man. A lot of Christian men refused to fight in WWII on similar grounds.

 

 

[Macnamara]

5 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

You're wrong. I'm not bothered if people want to discuss politics on the forum, or complain about immigration, etc., what bothers me is when posters make provocative remarks that are designed to divide people, such as "the only racism that exists in the UK now is anti-white racism".

 

i didn't make that statement but now you have brought it up i'll say that i don't see that statement the same way that you do

 

yes it is hyperbolic because of course there will be some racist people out there that have irrational hatred for others simply on the basis of their skin colour and of course those racists will themselves come in all skin colours

 

for every white person who hates a black person simply for their black skin there will be a black person who hates a white person simply for the colour of their skin

 

but i think behind the hyperbole a serious point was being made by that poster which is that they were alluding to the way in which the SYSTEM itself which is run by the cabal is increasingly anti-white and anti-indigenous british in its rhetoric and actions

 

But i don't see that as a new thing. I think the crown has been screwing the british people since BEFORE black people started coming here in the 1950's. I see it as a long struggle that has been going on for centuries and i see MASS immigration as simply one of the latest attacks the crown has launched on the people of these isles in its mission to create a global technocratic world government run by them

[Macnamara]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

You're not getting the message... Christ's kingdom is "not of this world", so it's not a question of me having a "personal jihad to clear out those pesky people", as you suggested, and yes, I can chose to follow Christ, rather than follow any man. A lot of Christian men refused to fight in WWII on similar grounds.

 

sounds to me like the thing you are refusing is to acknowledge the moral question over whether it is moral or not to ethnocide a people

[RobSS]

3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

i didn't make that statement but now you have brought it up i'll say that i don't see that statement the same way that you do

 

yes it is hyperbolic because of course there will be some racist people out there that have irrational hatred for others simply on the basis of their skin colour and of course those racists will themselves come in all skin colours

 

for every white person who hates a black person simply for their black skin there will be a black person who hates a white person simply for the colour of their skin

 

but i think behind the hyperbole a serious point was being made by that poster which is that they were alluding to the way in which the SYSTEM itself which is run by the cabal is increasingly anti-white and anti-indigenous british in its rhetoric and actions

 

But i don't see that as a new thing. I think the crown has been screwing the british people since BEFORE black people started coming here in the 1950's. I see it as a long struggle that has been going on for centuries and i see MASS immigration as simply one of the latest attacks the crown has launched on the people of these isles in its mission to create a global technocratic world government run by them

 

Quite a lot of mental gymnastics involved in you trying to justify Truthspoon's remark, which I don't buy into, and it wasn't just a one-off comment. He's made many provocative comments designed to incite racial tensions. It's not just a case of one comment.

 

 

[RobSS]

5 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

sounds to me like the thing you are refusing is to acknowledge the moral question over whether it is moral or not to ethnocide a people

 

 

Of course I don't believe ethnocide is moral, but I don't believe there's a political solution for the problem, for the reasons I've already given.

 

[Anti Facts Sir]

1 hour ago, RobSS said:

 

These are all political issues. I'm not a politician and I'm not interested in politics. It's all a pantomime.

 

Blimey what a cop out.

[Macnamara]

7 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

Quite a lot of mental gymnastics involved in you trying to justify Truthspoon's remark, which I don't buy into, and it wasn't just a one-off comment. He's made many provocative comments designed to incite racial tensions. It's not just a case of one comment.

 

ok well that may well be true

 

i'm not responsible for what that poster says

 

what i'm interested in is BIG PICTURE THINKING

 

To paraphrase Dr yeadon i like to spot PATTERNS in sparse data and without meaning to lick my own lollypop i'm pretty good at it in that i am often able to spot things that are going to happen before others

 

So with this aspect of the conspiracy ie MASS immigration i look at all the data points. For example in that post above about the avery case i outlined some of the things  that the current democrat regime is doing eg pushing for gun controls in order to see all of this within the wider context ie what it is actually going to mean for us as people on the ground

 

so for this particular issue i like to consider what MASS immigration is going to mean for us on the ground and it is going to have all kinds of consequences. of course the marxists will cheer it because they WANT consequences in that their entire raison d'etre is to bring about the end of what they call 'capitalism' but which is really corporate socialism so that they can create what they argue will be a utopia but which in reality is on course to become a TECHNOCRACY run by the very same oligarchs who are behind the current corporate socialist system

Edited January 2, 2022 by Macnamara

[RobSS]

Just now, Anti Facts Sir said:

Blimey what a cop out.

 

So you still believe in politics, and the left/right political system, after all the revelations?

 

 

 

[skitzorat]

9 minutes ago, RobSS said:

I'm not bothered if people want to discuss politics on the forum, or complain about immigration, etc., what bothers me is when posters make provocative remarks that are designed to divide people, such as "the only racism that exists in the UK now is anti-white racism".

Clearly you need to find a new forum which is more appropriate for venting your issues.

You've been here for five months and rarely have made a 'conspiratorial' contribution to any discussions on any thread.

All you do is make inane mainstream normie statements, insert yourself into conversations with a 'holier than thou' attitude while repeating woke NPC, deliberately divisive, talking points; twist, deflect and react with circular logic when called out; and constantly kvetch about all the 'normie' stuff that bothers your tender heart so greatly, all while begging for us to believe your honest goal is merely to 'find solutions' 'for the greater good!'

Go get your therapy elsewhere.

[RobSS]

2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

ok well that may well be true

 

i'm not responsible for what that poster says

 

what i'm interested in is BIG PICTURE THINKING

 

To paraphrase Dr yeadon i like to spot PATTERNS in sparse data and without meaning to lick my own lollypop i'm pretty good at it in that i am often able to spot things that are going to happen before others

 

So with this aspect of the conspiracy ie MASS immigration i look at all the data points. For example in that post above about the avery case i outlined some of the things  that the current democrat regime is doing eg pushing for gun controls in order to see all of this within the wider context ie what it is actually going to mean for us as people on the ground

 

so for this particular issue i like to consider what MASS immigration is going to mean for us on the ground and it is going to have all kinds of consequences. of course the marxists will cheer it because they WANT consequences in that their entire raison d'etre is to bring about the end of what they call 'capitalism' but which is really corporate socialism so that they can create what they argue will be a utopia but which in reality is on course to become a TECHNOCRACY run by the people behind the current corporate socialist system

 

I like to look at the even bigger picture and the battle between Good and Evil and the nature of that battle. From my perspective, it's not a battle that can be won through politics because firstly, the whole political system is corrupt and secondly, you cannot win a war in which the enemy is invisible and more powerful than any mortal man.

 

 

 

[Anti Facts Sir]

3 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

So you still believe in politics, and the left/right political system, after all the revelations?

 

 

 

No, I just read what Mac wrote and totally agreed with it. That's the truthful perspective of what is happening to Britain.

 

Nothing to do with politics, this is how PEOPLE on all sides now feel and behave on the subject. What began as politically motivated subversion has turned into a daily fact of life and has taken over every aspect of entertainment, creativity, social interaction and even sport.

[RobSS]

2 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

Clearly you need to find a new forum which is more appropriate for venting your issues.

You've been here for five months and rarely have made a 'conspiratorial' contribution to any discussions on any thread.

All you do is make inane mainstream normie statements, insert yourself into conversations with a 'holier than thou' attitude while repeating woke NPC, deliberately divisive, talking points; twist, deflect and react with circular logic when called out; and constantly kvetch about all the 'normie' stuff that bothers your tender heart so greatly, all while begging for us to believe your honest goal is merely to 'find solutions' 'for the greater good!'

Go get your therapy elsewhere.

 

What nonsense you write. I'm actually advocating David Icke's views, which you totally ignore!

 

David Icke:

 

"There is a field of consciousness that connects everything, so it doesn't matter if you're black, white, Asian, Chinese, Aboriginal... it doesn't matter what your form is... YOU are part of the same consciousness. YOU are just a unique expression of it, and that perception that we're all connected immediately starts dropping the fault lines the cult is desperate to perpetuate, so that different versions of form can be played off against each other."

 

 

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

No, I just read what Mac wrote and totally agreed with it. That's the truthful perspective of what is happening to Britain.

 

Nothing to do with politics, this is how PEOPLE on all sides now feel and behave on the subject. What began as politically motivated subversion has turned into a daily fact of life and has taken over every aspect of entertainment, creativity, social interaction and even sport.

 

So you're saying it's not a political issue - "Nothing to do with politics", you say, so what is it then? How would you define it?

 

 

Edited January 2, 2022 by RobSS

[Sheepy]

2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

What nonsense you write. I'm actually advocating David Icke's views, which you totally ignore!

 

David Icke:

 

"There is a field of consciousness that connects everything, so it doesn't matter if you're black, white, Asian, Chinese, Aboriginal... it doesn't matter what your form is... YOU are part of the same consciousness. YOU are just a unique expression of it, and that perception that we're all connected immediately starts dropping the fault lines the cult is desperate to perpetuate, so that different versions of form can be played off against each other."

 

 

I did know that; I am enjoying the outing better than a trip to Margate. 

[Anti Facts Sir]

It is no longer just a political issue, that was how it was created but where we are now, what Mac was saying, is a very human issue. To say "oh but I don't do politics" was a typically disingenuous reply. But you're up to your usual tricks anyway. Ignored.

[RobSS]

7 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

 

You've been here for five months and rarely have made a 'conspiratorial' contribution to any discussions on any thread.

 

 

 

 

Not true, even earlier today I made such contributions... such as posts in this thread...

 

https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/24631-how-the-david-icke-forum-looked-in-2007/

[Macnamara]

1 minute ago, RobSS said:

I like to look at the even bigger picture and the battle between Good and Evil and the nature of that battle. From my perspective, it's not a battle that can be won through politics because firstly, the whole political system is corrupt and secondly, you cannot win a war in which the enemy is invisible and more powerful than any mortal man.

 

so that would be the first school of thought which is that we must make peace with being replaced by self-hypnotising ourselves by constantly telling ourselves that if we ever have any dissenting thought or feeling well up within ourselves we must instantly identify that as the devil and seek to cast it out

 

under that school of thought we must never consider external factors such as what effect cramming more and more people into a small island has on quality of life or social cohesion or health, mental or otherwise

 

Under that school of thought such considerations as hospital waiting lists, school class sizes, population densities, quality of housing and pressure on the transport system must simply be ignored as external and therefore of no consideration

 

To me that smacks of madness.....like going back to sleep as your house burns down around you because facing upto the reality of that is too inconvenient

[RobSS]

Just now, Anti Facts Sir said:

 

It is no longer just a political issue, that was how it was created but where we are now, what Mac was saying, is a very human issue. To say "oh but I don't do politics" was a typically disingenuous reply. But you're up to your usual tricks anyway. Ignored.

 

 

If it's not a political what kind of solution do you propose?

 

 

[Macnamara]

5 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

No, I just read what Mac wrote and totally agreed with it. That's the truthful perspective of what is happening to Britain.

 

Nothing to do with politics, this is how PEOPLE on all sides now feel and behave on the subject. What began as politically motivated subversion has turned into a daily fact of life and has taken over every aspect of entertainment, creativity, social interaction and even sport.

 

sorry i'm outta likes but i totally agree

 

its all pervasive and no one can deny it without sounding like a crackpot

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

so that would be the first school of thought which is that we must make peace with being replaced by self-hypnotising ourselves by constantly telling ourselves that if we ever have any dissenting thought or feeling well up within ourselves we must instantly identify that as the devil and seek to cast it out

 

under that school of thought we must never consider external factors such as what effect cramming more and more people into a small island has on quality of life or social cohesion or health, mental or otherwise

 

Under that school of thought such considerations as hospital waiting lists, school class sizes, population densities, quality of housing and pressure on the transport system must simply be ignored as external and therefore of no consideration

 

To me that smacks of madness.....like going back to sleep as your house burns down around you because facing upto the reality of that is too inconvenient

 

Everything listed is political but you haven't provided any political solution. Just complaining about things on a forum all day isn't going to solve anything!

 

 

[Macnamara]

6 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

What nonsense you write. I'm actually advocating David Icke's views, which you totally ignore!

 

David Icke:

 

"There is a field of consciousness that connects everything, so it doesn't matter if you're black, white, Asian, Chinese, Aboriginal... it doesn't matter what your form is... YOU are part of the same consciousness. YOU are just a unique expression of it, and that perception that we're all connected immediately starts dropping the fault lines the cult is desperate to perpetuate, so that different versions of form can be played off against each other."

 

no david says that mass immigration is absolutely part of the conspiracy to enslave us

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

 

sorry i'm outta likes but i totally agree

 

its all pervasive and no one can deny it without sounding like a crackpot

 

So what's you're solution, apart from complaining?

 

 

[Macnamara]

Just now, RobSS said:

Just complaining about things on a forum all day isn't going to solve anything!

 

i'm not just complaining on a forum

 

the MASS immigration aspect is only one of MANY aspects of the conspiracy that i talk about. It got talked about a lot more in the wake of the migrant crisis and it is going to get talked about a lot more now as people can see that this post brexit tory government is still carrying on all of the globalist agendas of the EU and that migrants are being ferried over the english channel using border force boats and RNLI boats

 

But i talk about many solutions which are things that people of all skin colours can engage with

 

in terms of solutions to the MASS immigration issue its more that i am making an appeal to common sense to people of all skin colours in that if it continues certain things are going to happen in our reality which the cabal intend to happen and we all need to ask ourselves if that is really what we want to see happen?