skitzorat Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, RobSS said: Can we try and get this thread back on topic, thanks. I think BLM, false history, and the grudge many blacks are being taught to hold against whites is quite relevant to this thread - especially if youre so adamant "racism against black people is still a reality" - could be some causations worth exploring? no? after all, youre always so interested in finding solutions. 3 minutes ago, RobSS said: extreme right are obverse side of the coin to BLM. oh yes, the extreme right, rioting and burning cities to the ground at terrorising whole neighbourhoods all the time. Those Nazis! 4 minutes ago, RobSS said: BLM is a gift for right wing extremists. Care to provide a list of crimes these right wing extremists are responsible for over the past few years? How many innocents have they killed? How many riots have they been responsible for an what was the cost of the damage? (Charlottesville is questionable because ANTIFA hijacked it, Jan.6 doesn't count) You know when the Doj and all other western puppets squawk "right wing extremists" "white supramcy" in unison it's BS eh? Feeding the narrative of those "oppressive" whites: aka Cultural Marxism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, skitzorat said: I think BLM, false history, and the grudge many blacks are being taught to hold against whites is quite relevant to this thread - especially if youre so adamant "racism against black people is still a reality" - could be some causations worth exploring? no? after all, youre always so interested in finding solutions. Hatred towards blacks, just on the colour of their skin colour, is a still a reality, so no need to put that in quotation marks when it's a fact, but let's get it into perspective, it's only a minority who hold prejudices based on skin colour. The BLM and the extreme right are both sides of the same coin and are nourished by dark hidden forces. 17 minutes ago, skitzorat said: oh yes, the extreme right, rioting and burning cities to the ground at terrorising whole neighbourhoods all the time. Those Nazis! Care to provide a list of crimes these right wing extremists are responsible for over the past few years? How many innocents have they killed? How many riots have they been responsible for an what was the cost of the damage? (Charlottesville is questionable because ANTIFA hijacked it, Jan.6 doesn't count) You know when the Doj and all other western puppets squawk "right wing extremists" "white supramcy" in unison it's BS eh? Feeding the narrative of those "oppressive" whites: aka Cultural Marxism. Extreme right-wing groups did the same a few decades ago. It's the pendulum effect. At the moment, it''s the manufactured BLM who are causing a lot of the trouble, which is fuelling the extreme right to retaliate. In the past, it was the extreme right, like the National Front and British Movement when they appropriated skinheads to go Paki bashing and beating up gay people. No doubt the pendulum will swing again backwards and forwards, but these two sides are being manipulated by the same demonic forces. Edited January 5, 2022 by RobSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, RobSS said: which is fuelling the extreme right to retaliate. again, examples please. Ones that directly relate to BLM activities over the past few years. 4 minutes ago, RobSS said: Extreme right-wing groups did the same a few decades ago funny - I dont ever recall cities across the US on fire, huge amounts of public property being vandalized in the UK (statues) an so on... I recall the London/England riots in2011 - now who was responsible for them again? 9 minutes ago, RobSS said: In the past, it was the extreme right, like the National Front and British Movement when they appropriated skinheads to go Paki bashing and beating up gay people Skinheads. Paki Bashing Gay beatings. How far back to you need to go to try get examples... which may I add, can be considered isolated events, not an international shitshow. Even wiki admits such groups have been in decline since the 90s. 15 minutes ago, RobSS said: Hatred towards blacks, just on the colour of their skin colour, is a still a reality, so no need to put that in quotation marks when it's a fact, I put it in quotation marks to differentiate it [the title] from the rest of my comments. 17 minutes ago, RobSS said: but let's get it into perspective, it's only a minority who hold prejudices based on skin colour. than why the f do you repeatably make threads and harp on about it for the past 6 months? Yes. that's the case. As many have been saying but you've continually dismissed. Pure hatred for black skin colour, [by white people] is not even remotely common. You can't have it both ways. Now why is this such an issue that requires multiple threads on a conspiracy forum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotGirl Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, skitzorat said: again, examples please. Ones that directly relate to BLM activities over the past few years. funny - I dont ever recall cities across the US on fire, huge amounts of public property being vandalized in the UK (statues) an so on... I recall the London/England riots in2011 - now who was responsible for them again? Skinheads. Paki Bashing Gay beatings. How far back to you need to go to try get examples... which may I add, can be considered isolated events, not an international shitshow. Even wiki admits such groups have been in decline since the 90s. I put it in quotation marks to differentiate it [the title] from the rest of my comments. than why the f do you repeatably make threads and harp on about it for the past 6 months? Yes. that's the case. As many have been saying but you've continually dismissed. Pure hatred for black skin colour, [by white people] is not even remotely common. You can't have it both ways. Now why is this such an issue that requires multiple threads on a conspiracy forum? This one is demoralized and fully indoctrinated with CRT. He will be defending his masters all the way to the Gulag and the firing squad. He doesn't have the balls to walk of the plantation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 Just now, skitzorat said: again, examples please. Ones that directly relate to BLM activities over the past few years. Retaliating in ways that provoke racial hatred. It's given those people who do hate people, or look down on people with a different coloured excuse, to come out and provoke disharmony. It's the divide and conquer agenda. Just now, skitzorat said: funny - I dont ever recall cities across the US on fire, huge amounts of public property being vandalized in the UK (statues) an so on... You're not interested in healing race relations. You're only interested in demonising groups of people. Don't forget that most black people weren't involved in those episodes of public disorder. Same thing when white get involved, it's always a minority, both feeding off each other and blaming the other saying the other side is worse. Just now, skitzorat said: I recall the London/England riots in2011 - now who was responsible for them again? A lot of white people were involved in the 2011 "shopping riots" too, but it's obvious your agenda is to point the finger of blame at black people all the time. In other words, you're a victim of the cabal's divide and conquer agenda. Just now, skitzorat said: Skinheads. Paki Bashing Gay beatings. How far back to you need to go to try get examples... which may I add, can be considered isolated events, not an international shitshow. Even wiki admits such groups have been in decline since the 90s. I put it in quotation marks to differentiate it [the title] from the rest of my comments. They weren't isolated incidents. White right wing extremists beating up Asians and gay people were common during the 70's, 80's and 90's, but the pendulum swings and then extremists on the left, and a minority of black people get involved. Just now, skitzorat said: than why the f do you repeatably make threads and harp on about it for the past 6 months? This thread only exists because a poster made a false claim that the only racism that exists in the UK these days is anti-white racism. If that poster hadn't of made the comment, this thread wouldn't exist, so don't blame me for all this! Just now, skitzorat said: Pure hatred for black skin colour, [by white people] is not even remotely common. I've never claimed it is common, but that's not the subject of this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, PatriotGirl said: This one is demoralized and fully indoctrinated with CRT. I've never defended CRT. It's people like you who are demoralised... playing the victim and using that to incite racial divisions. 6 minutes ago, PatriotGirl said: He will be defending his masters all the way to the Gulag and the firing squad. He doesn't have the balls to walk of the plantation I don't defend any political leaders and I've never been on the "plantation". I suppose you feel content with the reality that Asians and gays were beaten up by right wing thugs? Edited January 5, 2022 by RobSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotGirl Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, RobSS said: I've never defended CRT. It's people like you who are demoralised... playing the victim and using that to incite racial divisions. I don't defend any political leaders and I've never been on the "plantation". right back on ignore Edited January 5, 2022 by PatriotGirl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, PatriotGirl said: In George Orwell's "1984", he wrote all this... "cheering and waving flags is simply sex gone sour". Edited January 5, 2022 by RobSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, RobSS said: A lot of white people were involved in the 2011 "shopping riots" too, but it's obvious your agenda is to point the finger of blame at black people all the time. lol shopping riots!!! Mostly peaceful, a little fiery. I will point an accusing finger where the overwhelming evidence suggests. Still waiting for those "right-wing extremist" examples....post 2010. 38 minutes ago, skitzorat said: I recall the London/England riots in2011 - now who was responsible for them again? *responsible being the operative word. Full analysis. https://humstats.blogspot.com/2011/08/uk-riots-ethnicity-statistics.html Those damn whites, always burning their cities down when black guys get shot by police... always gotta make it about them - that's white privilege for ya! Edited January 5, 2022 by skitzorat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 Just now, skitzorat said: lol shopping riots!!! Mostly peaceful, a little fiery. I will point an accusing finger where the overwhelming evidence suggests. Still waiting for those "right-wing extremist" examples....post 2010. *responsible being the operative word. Full analysis. https://humstats.blogspot.com/2011/08/uk-riots-ethnicity-statistics.html Those damn whites, always burning their cities down when black guys get shot by police... always gotta make it about them - that's white supremacy for ya! Who said they were peaceful? They became known as the "Shopping riots" to mock the looters who only cared about greed and vanity, but what you're missing is that it's not black skin that causes rioting and social disorder, it's social deprivation and societal problems. The primary cause has got nothing to do with skin colour but you don't want to know that. You only see the colour of a person's skin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotGirl Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, skitzorat said: lol shopping riots!!! Mostly peaceful, a little fiery. I will point an accusing finger where the overwhelming evidence suggests. Still waiting for those "right-wing extremist" examples....post 2010. *responsible being the operative word. Full analysis. https://humstats.blogspot.com/2011/08/uk-riots-ethnicity-statistics.html Those damn whites, always burning their cities down when black guys get shot by police... always gotta make it about them - that's white privilege for ya! Don't fall for the other side of this identity politics trap. Don't take it out on people who are still stuck on the plantation. Don't engage with them at all. They will just try and bring you back to their plantation. It's all they know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, PatriotGirl said: Don't fall for the other side of this identity politics trap. Don't take it out on people who are still stuck on the plantation. Don't engage with them at all. They will just try and bring you back to their plantation. It's all they know. Im just intentionally playing games to show him up as the subversive agent that he is who can never give a honest response without being more twisty than a game of naked twister. I am bored now :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotGirl Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, skitzorat said: Im just intentionally playing games to show him up as the subversive agent that he is who can never give a honest response without being more twisty than a game of naked twister. I am bored now :) Both black and white victimhood are the same trap. Both sides are lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 minute ago, skitzorat said: Im just intentionally playing games You are playing games, but you're only succumbing to the divide and conquer agenda. 1 minute ago, skitzorat said: to show him up as the subversive agent that he is who can never give a honest response without being more twisty than a game of naked twister. I do give an honest response, which you ignore... An honest response to your claim that it's mostly blacks responsible for social disorder is that it's not black skin that causes rioting and social disorder, it's social deprivation and societal problems. 1 minute ago, skitzorat said: I am bored now :) Of course you're bored because you can't defend the indefensible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, PatriotGirl said: Both black and white victimhood are the same trap. Both sides are lost. So why are you getting involved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, RobSS said: Who said they were peaceful? You are incredibly dense to smarta$$-ary & jest. 13 minutes ago, RobSS said: but what you're missing is that it's not black skin that causes rioting and social disorder, it's social deprivation and societal problems. oh course.. those poor minorities, always someone [govt/whiteys] elses fault. You deny being an advocate of CRT (victimization), get testy when I say you're a text book case of cultural marxism, yet repeat this mantra and believe it whole-heartedly; minorities=oppressed=victim=societies [european countries] fault. How long until minorities take some self responsibility for their reality and collective behaviours? How many black feet do whitey need to kiss to repent? I know - 'till these less white people! Go on, say it. 23 minutes ago, RobSS said: The primary cause has got nothing to do with skin colour but you don't want to know that. You only see the colour of a person's skin. I'm already aware its "more nuanced than that" - I know all about it because it's the same old line that's been repeatedly trotted out; from the US to the UK to NZ my entire life. It's the same theme that's parroted when a Muslim commits a terror attack (in the West) on innocent bystanders - "religion of peace, socieo-economic problems" etc etc. Despite what you may think, I don't "SEE" skin colour like that [in a derogative manner], however, especially in a thread where someone is arguing about how hard done by [racist against] minorities are [in the west] -I'm also not afraid to call a spade a spade when I see it either. And I'm not afraid of being called "racist" or "white supremacist" by you and your ilk when I do. If more people did, perhaps minority communities would be forced into some introspection/self reflection instead of crying victim. What I dont do is excuse uncivilized behaviour that harms people, destroys property and disrupts life, no matter who's doing it... speaking of which - so about those right wing extremists events, post 2010, I take it they been caused by social deprivation too, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 18 minutes ago, RobSS said: but you're only succumbing to the divide and conquer agenda. thank you sensei - speaking of your magical abilities to make grand diagnoses about others behaviours, - about me "displaying symptoms of someone in a loony cult!" Still waiting on the symptoms and your qualifications. 21 minutes ago, RobSS said: which you ignore. I think you'll find the trend here is that I pretty much reply to each point you make.. point by point; refuting them and/or mocking them as I go. 22 minutes ago, RobSS said: because you can't defend the indefensible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 minute ago, skitzorat said: You are incredibly dense to smarta$$-ary & jest. oh course.. those poor minorities, always someone [govt/whiteys] elses fault. It's not skin colour that causes the problems. 1 minute ago, skitzorat said: You deny being an advocate of CRT (victimization), get testy when I say you're a text book case of cultural marxism, yet repeat this mantra and believe it whole-heartedly; minorities=oppressed=victim=societies [european countries] fault. I don't subscribe to CRT. It's you who are playing the victim card. Truthspoon played the victim card when he said that the only racism in the UK is against white people. He's playing the victim. You're both playing the victim. 1 minute ago, skitzorat said: How long until minorities take some self responsibility for their reality and collective behaviours? How many black feet do whitey need to kiss to repent? I know - 'till these less white people! Go on, say it. It's nothing to do with skin colour. Why don't you get out of your social media bubble and realise that realise how you're being played? 1 minute ago, skitzorat said: I'm already aware its "more nuanced than that" - I know all about it because it's the same old line that's been repeatedly trotted out; from the US to the UK to NZ my entire life. It's the same theme that's parroted when a Muslim commits a terror attack (in the West) on innocent bystanders - "religion of peace, socieo-economic problems" etc etc. Despite what you may think, I don't "SEE" skin colour like that [in a derogative manner], however, especially in a thread where someone is arguing about how hard done by [racist against] minorities are [in the west] -I'm also not afraid to call a spade a spade when I see it either. And I'm not afraid of being called "racist" or "white supremacist" by you and your ilk when I do. If more people did, perhaps minority communities would be forced into some introspection/self reflection instead of crying victim. This thread is not about "how hard done by [racist against] minorities are [in the west]" - it's about a comment made by someone who shares similar views to you that the only racism in the UK is racism against white people. This thread is about explaining why that statement is false. 1 minute ago, skitzorat said: What I dont do is excuse uncivilized behaviour that harms people, destroys property and disrupts life, no matter who's doing it... speaking of which - so about those right wing extremists events, post 2010, I take it they been caused by social deprivation too, right? That's not the subject of this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, skitzorat said: thank you sensei - speaking of your magical abilities to make grand diagnoses about others behaviours, - about me "displaying symptoms of someone in a loony cult!" Still waiting on the symptoms and your qualifications. I didn't say you were actually in a loony cult... I said "symptoms" because you won't reason... it's not about skin colour. Why not look at underlying causes? 1 hour ago, skitzorat said: I think you'll find the trend here is that I pretty much reply to each point you make.. point by point; refuting them and/or mocking them as I go. I'm also replying to each and every point you make, and refuting them. Your mockery is an indication of desperation! Edited January 5, 2022 by RobSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, RobSS said: who shares similar views to you that the only racism in the UK is racism against white people. I don't hold that view and have never implied that I do. I'll wait for the examples of me saying/implying that [that the only racism in the UK is against whites] while I wait for right wing extremist examples and your explanation of my mental health diagnosis. I do however believe that anti-whitism is the predominate form of racial discrimination across the West, only the wilfully ignorant and/or blind can say otherwise. I don't count you as either of those two - you actively dismiss it as "victimhood" - while simultaneously crying victimhood. 7 minutes ago, RobSS said: This thread is not about "how hard done by [racist against] minorities are [in the west]" 8 minutes ago, RobSS said: That's not the subject of this thread. but it was your response (right wing extremism being caused by blm (or words to that effect)) during the course of conversation- another one your deflection tricks when pressed to respond and can't - default back to [not the/stay on the] "topic/subject of thread". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotGirl Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Hasbara/50 Cent Army/77th Brigade trying to entrap people on this board imo. I've spotted 2 bad agents already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, RobSS said: Your mockery is an indication of desperation! my mockery is an indication of the validity I give your pearl clutching. 10 minutes ago, RobSS said: Because you won't reason... it's not about skin colour. Why not look at underlying causes? I did, but I said I refuse to accept it anymore because it's been used as the excuse for bad behaviour by certain [minority groups] for decades, the same as Mulsim terror attacks (and even transgender rights/activists/attacks) "underlying causes" is a tired trope, might as well call it full-canard: > whiteys/govt/societies fault >= no self responsibility=no self reflection >= whiteys/govt/societies fault >=rinse and repeat ad nauseum my entire adult life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, skitzorat said: I don't hold that view and have never implied that I do. I'll wait for the examples of me saying/implying that [that the only racism in the UK is against whites] while I wait for right wing extremist examples and your explanation of my mental health diagnosis. Thank you. That's all this thread is about. Nothing else here to see. 6 minutes ago, skitzorat said: I do however believe that anti-whitism is the predominate form of racial discrimination across the West, only the wilfully ignorant and/or blind can say otherwise. That's debatable, but not the subject of this thread. 6 minutes ago, skitzorat said: I don't count you as either of those two - you actively dismiss it as "victimhood" - while simultaneously crying victimhood. but it was your response (right wing extremism being caused by blm (or words to that effect)) during the course of conversation- another one your deflection tricks when pressed to respond and can't - default back to [not the/stay on the] "topic/subject of thread". Racism against black people is still a reality, and there are victims, but there's a difference between acknowledging that and using that as an excuse to cause division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 Just now, skitzorat said: my mockery is an indication of the validity I give your pearl clutching. In your imagination only. Just now, skitzorat said: I did, but I said I refuse to accept it anymore because it's been used as the excuse for bad behaviour by certain [minority groups] for decades, the same as Mulsim terror attacks (and even transgender rights/activists/attacks) "underlying causes" is a tired trope, might as well call it full-canard: > whiteys/govt/societies fault >= no self responsibility=no self reflection >= whiteys/govt/societies fault >=rinse and repeat ad nauseum my entire adult life. So you do think that bad behaviour is only to do with skin colour. Anyhow, that's not the subject of this thread. If you want to prove that point, start a new thread on the subject, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 On 1/3/2022 at 11:30 AM, skitzorat said: Don't you tire of asking this? I mean, after annoying other contributors in another thread by clutching your pearls too often you made one specifically... (I think the mods even stepped in to ask you to) and now I find it its actually about THIS VERY SAME ISSUE! And your saying the exact same things! hahaha hahahaha You can't make this shit up! lolz You either have the memory of a goldfish (yes I know the 3 sec thing is a fallacy) or you have a deliberate agenda such as compartmentalizing and thus breaking up the flow of the entire forum. As it is this very same "issue" you've been stuck on - "racism" - which isn't conspiratorial in of itself, especially the way you continually present it - as your "issue" And even when the likes of Mac kindly provides the background and solid documentation of the conspiratorial aspects repeatedly, you just dismiss them straight out/ignore or argue/refute in an endless cycle, which shows you're not even the remotely interested in coming to a greater awareness of the conspiratorial aspects of it. I think you're doing this; rehashing the same thing and create new threads because you just like to be the centre of attention. Or you're deliberately trying to cause issues with the forum. Or you have the memory issue. It has to be one of them. 12 minutes ago, PatriotGirl said: Hasbara/50 Cent Army/77th Brigade trying to entrap people on this board imo. I've spotted 2 bad agents already. I'm deliberately feeding the troll - I know its petty and childish, but meh. somebody sue me! I've played enough "Rob games" for the day. I'm out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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