Is there any point in saying "white people are more spiritual than black people"

[Truthspoon]

23 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

Racism doesn't serve the Creator.

 

 

 

He can't hear you....you're on ignore.

 

Good old Rob...always picking at that healing scab to make it bleed again.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 26, 2021 by Truthspoon

[RobSS]

4 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

 

Rob: Racism doesn't serve the Creator.

 

T'spoon: He can't hear you....you're on ignore.

 

 

You're so full of pride and pomposity, you even think you're God. You said you want to apply to the police for a license so you can own a firearm. You live in fear, but fear is the worst thing because it can really corrupt your mind.

 

I've known you for 15 years. It's only in the last couple years that you've become unrecognisable from how you used to be. You always came across as someone polite, helpful and charming. Yes, there was always an undercurrent of bitterness and resentment with life, but I never detected anything too extreme. I certainly never detected any racist attitudes or animosity towards coloured people, certainly nothing as prominent and alarming as what's now manifesting. You need to seek help from a professional, before it's too late.

 

4 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

always picking at that healing scab to make it bleed again.

 

 

You should think about what you want to say, and who you are offending, before you say it.

 

The reasons why statistics show that blacks commit crimes at nearly three times the rate that whites do,  are cultural. It's not because black people are that way inclined by nature. Cultural explanations are things like institutional racism within police forces against black people. Racist police officers framing black youths for crimes they didn't commit, police harassment and provocation, police abuse of stop and search powers against black people, hence the over representation of black people in arrest, prosecution and conviction statistics. Other reasons are socioeconomic - poverty, poor education, lack of job opportunities, poor housing and ghettoised neighbourhoods, local drug problems, etc.

 

The comment you made yesterday that the only racism in the UK, is racism against white people, is ample proof that you have no regard for the truth, and that you're full of racist bigotry. You've said many other things that are racist, not only against people with a different colour skin, but also against gays. You've called gay people "faggots".

 

Some of the things you've said put you in the category of being a white supremacist. On a different forum, you even cosied up to Nazis, wanting to be in their inner circle.

 

I've actually been very gentle with you. Many people that you've offended would treat much more harshly.

 

 

Edited December 27, 2021 by RobSS

[bobb]

24 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

You're so full of pride and pomposity, you even think you're God. You said you want to apply to the police for a license so you can own a gun. You live in fear, but fear is the worst thing because it can really corrupt your mind.

 

I've known you for 15 years. It's only in the last couple years that you've become unrecognisable from how you used to be. You always came across as someone polite, helpful and charming. Yes, there was always an undercurrent of bitterness and resentment with life, but I never detected anything too extreme. I certainly never detected any racist attitudes or animosity towards coloured people, certainly nothing as prominent and alarming as what's now manifesting. You need to seek help from a professional, before it's too late.

 

 

You should think about what you want to say, and who you are offending, before you say it.

 

The reasons why statistics show that blacks commit crimes at nearly three times the rate that whites do,  are cultural. It's not because black people are that way inclined by nature. Cultural explanations are things like institutional racism within police forces against black people. Racist police officers framing black youths for crimes they didn't commit, police harassment and provocation, police abuse of stop and search powers against black people, hence the over representation of black people in arrest, prosecution and conviction statistics. Other reasons are socioeconomic - poverty, poor education, lack of job opportunities, poor housing and ghettoised neighbourhoods, local drug problems, etc.

 

The comment you made yesterday that the only racism in the UK, is racism against white people, is ample proof that you have no regard for the truth, and that you're full of racist bigotry. You've said many other things that are racist, not only against people with a different colour skin, but also against gays. You've called gay people "faggots".

 

Some of the things you've said put you in the category of being a white supremacist. On a different forum, you even cosied up to Nazis, wanting to be in their inner circle.

 

I've actually been very gentle with you. Many people that you've offended would treat much more harshly.

 

 

 

Get a shower curtain you two, it's becoming pornographic.

[Soandso]

6 hours ago, DaleP said:

 

If you understand, geometry is a part of the spirituality and it is a form.

 

But noone is seperate from source.

How can there be a hierarchy absolute oneness.

 

How is it possible judge and rank spirituality?  Who or what criteria do you follow? 

Nobody can be more "it" than anyone else.

 

Edited December 27, 2021 by Soandso

[DaleP]

8 minutes ago, Soandso said:

 

But noone is seperate from source.

How can there be a hierarchy absolute oneness.

 

How is it possible judge and rank spirituality?  Who or what criteria do you follow? 

Nobody can be more "it" than anyone else.

 

 

I wasn't the one who said we are separate from source...though there are many jabbed who are now.

 

What rank are you talking about? You must be mistaking with someone else?

[RobSS]

David Icke:

 

"There is a field of consciousness that connects everything, so it doesn't matter if you're black, white, Asian, Chinese, Aboriginal... it doesn't matter what your form is... YOU are part of the same consciousness. YOU are just a unique expression of it, and that perception that we're all connected immediately starts dropping the fault lines the cult is desperate to perpetuate, so that different versions of form can be played off against each other."

 

[Brightlightsoul]

10 hours ago, DaleP said:

 

Here is my take on things. As I believe all beings including satan ALL serves the Creator. The Creator created EVERYTHING. So everything has its purpose.

 

The way I look at trolls and the likes, we need them....believe it or not. They are placed there for us who wants to ascend.

Can you imagine a video game without an obstacle or mystery to solve? What kind of game is it?

So idiots will help you realise how much you have ascended. If you get angry, you've got more work to do.

I think that you don't have to spread love, just be. Because when you generate that kind of energy, of course, you will naturally change the atmosphere/environment without reaching out. People ought to have such experience. I know it wasn't me who did it but there has been a couple of times people have said something to me as I walked into a shop. They said, "It's like peace have walked in." I wasn't aware of this as I only went into a shop to get something but when I tuned in I understood. It was a being that came and walked with me who 'did' it. But it taught me a lesson, if I carried peace frequency, I don't have to offer any words, just be to affect the world.

 

@DaleP That is a positive way to look at things and you make a lot of valid points. Have a good day, love from Cape Town. 

[shabbirss]

ego traps - lower our energy output.

 

Edited December 27, 2021 by shabbirss

[Truthspoon]

11 hours ago, RobSS said:

 

You're so full of pride and pomposity, you even think you're God. You said you want to apply to the police for a license so you can own a firearm. You live in fear, but fear is the worst thing because it can really corrupt your mind.

 

I've known you for 15 years. It's only in the last couple years that you've become unrecognisable from how you used to be. You always came across as someone polite, helpful and charming. Yes, there was always an undercurrent of bitterness and resentment with life, but I never detected anything too extreme. I certainly never detected any racist attitudes or animosity towards coloured people, certainly nothing as prominent and alarming as what's now manifesting. You need to seek help from a professional, before it's too late.

 

 

You should think about what you want to say, and who you are offending, before you say it.

 

The reasons why statistics show that blacks commit crimes at nearly three times the rate that whites do,  are cultural. It's not because black people are that way inclined by nature. Cultural explanations are things like institutional racism within police forces against black people. Racist police officers framing black youths for crimes they didn't commit, police harassment and provocation, police abuse of stop and search powers against black people, hence the over representation of black people in arrest, prosecution and conviction statistics. Other reasons are socioeconomic - poverty, poor education, lack of job opportunities, poor housing and ghettoised neighbourhoods, local drug problems, etc.

 

The comment you made yesterday that the only racism in the UK, is racism against white people, is ample proof that you have no regard for the truth, and that you're full of racist bigotry. You've said many other things that are racist, not only against people with a different colour skin, but also against gays. You've called gay people "faggots".

 

Some of the things you've said put you in the category of being a white supremacist. On a different forum, you even cosied up to Nazis, wanting to be in their inner circle.

 

I've actually been very gentle with you. Many people that you've offended would treat much more harshly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[RobSS]

3 hours ago, Truthspoon said:

 

'I put you on ignore, but I'm still reading your posts.'

 

 

He's still reading my posts - he was even wrong about putting me on ignore.

 

Edited December 27, 2021 by RobSS

[RobSS]

9 hours ago, Brightlightsoul said:

@DaleP That is a positive way to look at things and you make a lot of valid points. Have a good day, love from Cape Town. 

 

I watched Alfred Hitchcock's classic 1948 film, "Rope", yesterday afternoon. The main protagonist wanted to prove his intellectual superiority by committing the "perfect murder". With the help of his sidekick, he murders a former classmate just before his friends are about to arrive for a dinner party. He puts the body in an antique wooden chest, and uses the chest as a buffet table for the food. When the guests arrive, they take food from the chest, all the while, the murderer congratulates himself on how superior he is. None of his guests know that their classmate has been murdered and is dead in the wooden chest. 

 

The murderer's reasoning is that there's no such thing as good and evil. The murderer believes that even evil serves the creator. Unfortunately, there was a tiny flaw in his thinking that leads to his being exposed as the murderer and he gets arrested.

 

It's a very dangerous philosophy and when take to it's extreme leads to people doing, and saying, bad things. These things may not always be as serious as murder - they may just be trivial things - but they certainly do not serve the Creator.

 

[RobSS]

20 hours ago, DaleP said:

 

I think that you don't have to spread love, just be.

 

How is defending racism congruent with spreading love?

 

You can't defend racism and spread love at the same time.

 

20 hours ago, DaleP said:

 

... there has been a couple of times people have said something to me as I walked into a shop. They said, "It's like peace have walked in."

 

 

Unfortunately, that didn't happen when you came into this thread.

 

[Soandso]

14 hours ago, DaleP said:

 

I wasn't the one who said we are separate from source...though there are many jabbed who are now.

 

What rank are you talking about? You must be mistaking with someone else?

I just meant , how does anyone determine who is more spiritual? 

[Brightlightsoul]

12 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

I watched Alfred Hitchcock's classic 1948 film, "Rope", yesterday afternoon. The main protagonist wanted to prove his intellectual superiority by committing the "perfect murder". With the help of his sidekick, he murders a former classmate just before his friends are about to arrive for a dinner party. He puts the body in an antique wooden chest, and uses the chest as a buffet table for the food. When the guests arrive, they take food from the chest, all the while, the murderer congratulates himself on how superior he is. None of his guests know that their classmate has been murdered and is dead in the wooden chest. 

 

The murderer's reasoning is that there's no such thing as good and evil. The murderer believes that even evil serves the creator. Unfortunately, there was a tiny flaw in his thinking that leads to his being exposed as the murderer and he gets arrested.

 

It's a very dangerous philosophy and when take to it's extreme leads to people doing, and saying, bad things. These things may not always be as serious as murder - they may just be trivial things - but they certainly do not serve the Creator.

 

Hi RobSS, An interesting point to make, agreed it can be a dangerous philosophy to live by, when someone tries to justify that all good and evil serve the creator.

 

I hope you enjoyed your film, personally, I would rather not watch films like that as I find them uncomfortable to watch. But perhaps from a psychology perspective, it is no doubt very interesting. 

 

[RobSS]

2 hours ago, Brightlightsoul said:

Hi RobSS, An interesting point to make, agreed it can be a dangerous philosophy to live by, when someone tries to justify that all good and evil serve the creator.

 

I hope you enjoyed your film, personally, I would rather not watch films like that as I find them uncomfortable to watch. But perhaps from a psychology perspective, it is no doubt very interesting. 

 

 

I highly recommend the film, it's one of Alfred Hitchcock's outstanding films. It's an unusual film because it encourages critical thinking, so many people find it comfortable. I recommend watching the film through the end. It's only 80 minutes. If you can get through to the end, you'll find it a very liberating experience. It's really a great moral ending, and what an original storyline.

 

 

Edited December 27, 2021 by RobSS

[RobSS]

If you watch the final scene of Rope, it won't spoil the film, at all because right at the start of the film, in the opening shots, we watch the murderer and his sidekick, strangle the man with a rope, and we see them putting the body in the trunk. So, the film certainly isn't a "who done it", in any sense of the term at all.

 

The film is really a philosophical discussion on the nature of good and evil. The dinner guests even have a philosophical discussion about the concepts of Nietzsche's Übermensch, and De Quincey's art of murder, as a means of showing one's superiority over others.

 

There is a suspense element... what the audience wants to know is how the murder, who thinks he is the creator, god, is caught out by his cleverness. After the dinner guests have all gone home, one of the guests returns to the apartment with suspicions (James Stewart), and there's another discussion about the nature of good and evil. This all happens in the final scene:

 

 

Edited December 27, 2021 by RobSS

[DaleP]

7 hours ago, shabbirss said:

ego traps - lower our energy output.

 

 

Interesting that you spotted the ego trip. That's exactly what I was getting.

 

I pay attention to those who say you are this and that..... they are usually exposing themselves.

 

An individual can pretend that they are a truther, love n light and all that but they actually belonging to satanic realm, satan is about pride, ego etc.... They may not be aware though....just mislead. New Age is twisted. They pretend that they are of love n light but it was manipulated so that they never find the truth. 

 

Funnily, I caught a mole yesterday. I threw some baits and it showed its true nature..... a rat underneath. Then I saw it was carrying a few more masks under it. lol

 

Ego is necessary but it trips you up. HAHAHAHAHA

 

 

 

 

 

[RobSS]

1 minute ago, DaleP said:

 

Interesting that you spotted the ego trip. That's exactly what I was getting.

 

Racism is an ego trip. Why do you defend it?

 

But racism can blind a person's awareness that they are on an ego trip.

 

 

Edited December 27, 2021 by RobSS

[DaleP]

2 hours ago, Soandso said:

I just meant , how does anyone determine who is more spiritual? 

You have to ask OP for that.

I haven't got a clue but OP has twisted the subject I posted.

 

All I said was.... if you had 10 batteries (melanin) and the other person had 100 batteries (melanin) which one can you store more energy? It's no brainer imo. It's isn't used to spirituality though information can be stored in the battery SHOULD you wish to. The problem is, many don't though. Look at both white and black people who has nothing to do with spiritually but show off their bling for example. Anyway, OP wanted to make this a racial thing. Hence he is on my ignore list. haha

 

EDIT: and let me tell you one more thing. Yes, we are kind of equal in a sense that most of us are build the same way, two arms, a head, two legs etc.... but we are not equal because some will have longer legs, some shorter. In this sense, if you were to run and compete, one has to put more effort when competing with one with longer legs.

 

Edited December 27, 2021 by DaleP

[RobSS]

28 minutes ago, DaleP said:

 

You have to ask OP for that.

I haven't got a clue but OP has twisted the subject I posted.

 

 

I did not twist the subject. I highlighted the hypocrisy of what was written. As I've already explained, I did not quote it out of context because it was an excuse to play the race card, and the idea that 'if they can be racist, why can't we', and that was confirmed by the way in which TS continued on the theme, saying my talent and interest comes from the white part of my being, implying that the other half is worthless.

 

[RobSS]

31 minutes ago, DaleP said:

EDIT: and let me tell you one more thing. Yes, we are kind of equal in a sense that most of us are build the same way, two arms, a head, two legs etc.... but we are not equal because some will have longer legs, some shorter. In this sense, if you were to run and compete, one has to put more effort when competing with one with longer legs.

 

 

A nice try at deflection, but that's never been the issue in this thread. The issue is racial superiority. White people are not superior to black people. That's what you and Truthspoon fail to understand.

 

[RobSS]

35 minutes ago, DaleP said:

 

Hence he is on my ignore list. haha

 

 

You're on my ignore list because you can't defend racism.

 

[Brightlightsoul]

11 hours ago, RobSS said:

If you watch the final scene of Rope, it won't spoil the film, at all because right at the start of the film, in the opening shots, we watch the murderer and his sidekick, strangle the man with a rope, and we see them putting the body in the trunk. So, the film certainly isn't a "who done it", in any sense of the term at all.

 

The film is really a philosophical discussion on the nature of good and evil. The dinner guests even have a philosophical discussion about the concepts of Nietzsche's Übermensch, and De Quincey's art of murder, as a means of showing one's superiority over others.

 

There is a suspense element... what the audience wants to know is how the murder, who thinks he is the creator, god, is caught out by his cleverness. After the dinner guests have all gone home, one of the guests returns to the apartment with suspicions (James Stewart), and there's another discussion about the nature of good and evil. This all happens in the final scene:

 

 

Thanks for sharing the video clip, I can see that it does actually look like quite a good movie! So I stand corrected! 

 

In summary though, who in their right mind thinks that they are intellectually superior to play the act of god, and to try and justify the balance of both good and evil or to sideline morals in general, just to murder on the basis of ego?!

 

Have a good day, from rainy Cape Town.

 

[Guest m754]

 

As I have said in another thread as well---It would seem that we are screenshot replicas of an original experiment. We are pictorial representations of the original 'truth'.

 

Our bodies are designed like characters in Children's storybooks with A, B, C labelled and coloured clearly and distinctly to tell us infantile beings what each thing represents symbolically.

 

Now 2 cyclical loops run this cycle through creation and destruction and in one loop runs the same broad storyline as the most basic premise---from darkness to light is the basic storyline in a nutshell.

 

Because we are living as children's storybook cartoon characters in lowest version of frozen reality----symbolic darkness has been shown to us literally as skin colour we perceive. The mechanism of that programming through pigment coding in DNA etc. is secondary to this understanding. The representation of Journey from Nature to Ego-Intellect dominance. Dark does not mean bad and light does not mean good, so no race is superior, it is merely the steps in the cycle. Therefore while there can be no superiority in absolute terms, the dominance of each race/ colour symbolism will depend on which stage of the cycle one is in... 

 

And---this is a mere symbolic representation of the journey.... Going to light is actually not a good thing in strictly spiritual terms—

 

Darkness implies a harmony with nature where intellect has not started taking apart everything for ego based control.....

 

This then moves with false ‘knowledge’ of matter towards 'light' when all is started to be illumined by intelligence and with the new found power of intellectual dominance, the ego is fed. The Indic and Mesopotamian river valley civilizations are symbolic representations of this stage where a balance of both was achieved at the beginning before they disappeared as well,  because as one first starts using ‘knowledge’ of matter to dissect nature it was purely for realization of something divine in us---thus even their technology was used for that purpose initially.

 

That experiment fails soon as the ego becomes greedy and soon the bright white light of intellectual dominance illumines every single bit of nature and matter and aims to rule everything and of course that is failing as well as the cycle gets completed..

 

The perceived superiority of white race in current times derives from this symbolic power of brute intellect to rule first over nature  and then over false knowledge and for those who still wish to continue this very pleasant journey-- the train now goes to what is symbolic of slave race of whatever colour similar to a certain far east country where human is not human anymore but is ruled by outside entity entirely.--

 

every bit of human will be owned and digitised and human race returns in reverse to slavery and domination using same intellect that started the first domination ...Thus completing the cycle.

 

In Nature once a chain of events is set in motion, the end point is pre-decided as an ultimate consequence through the naturally embedded intelligence running this reality. 

 

The same cycle will repeat itself in same pattern with less and less power coded in individual characters so they appear even more as caricatures of original beings---so at some point cartoonish characters will fight over one black arm and one white arm or something weird like this---meaning that the fight will now happen in one's own body maybe..

 

The differences are shown to us to awaken us—that is their only purpose, the differences are not intended to make us fight over what is meant to in fact prevent division ….because it is the story of one’s own evolution/devolution.

 

We are all all races and we will all be black and white again and again until we wake up..

 

Point is ----all races are lost spiritually right now—they all need to get their act together.

 

[RobSS]

11 hours ago, Brightlightsoul said:

Thanks for sharing the video clip, I can see that it does actually look like quite a good movie! So I stand corrected! 

 

In summary though, who in their right mind thinks that they are intellectually superior to play the act of god, and to try and justify the balance of both good and evil or to sideline morals in general, just to murder on the basis of ego?!

 

Have a good day, from rainy Cape Town.

 

 

Thanks for your reply, and you ask a really good question:

 

"Who in their right mind thinks that they are intellectually superior to play the act of god, and to try and justify the balance of both good and evil or to sideline morals in general, just to murder on the basis of ego?"

 

Unfortunately, we live in a world where psychopaths, just like Brandon, the murderer, in the video, have established themselves at the highest positions of power. Most people don't realise this, which is why so many blindly go along with whatever agenda the government tells them to follow. This film explains what happens when those people exercise their power.

 

The film was made in 1948, a very long time ago. I know of no other films or media where this issue has been presented to the public in such a plain and stark manner.

 

When I grew up in the 1970's and 80's, I used to hear adults talking about that film and the moral lesson it taught. We know live in an age where generations have grown up shunning any film made in black and white, and I fear that society is on a downward spiral because a lot of people no longer understand the difference between good and evil and right and wrong.

 

All the best,

Dry,mild and just after dusk, here in London