RobSS Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) I don't want to take the corona thread off-topic, so I've started this thread to discuss comments by @Truthspoon 2 hours ago, Truthspoon said: I quite agree. But if myself had said 'white people are more spiritual than black people because of their skin colour....' I can't see anything wrong with making the claim, as long as it's based on scientific evidence, but I've never seen any scientist prove that white people are more spiritually advanced. I don't understand why anyone would even want to include such a statement in a forum post. 2 hours ago, Truthspoon said: I mean if you want to talk about melanin I could get into how white people seem to have single handedly been responsible for the greatest civilisations the world has ever seen. Ended slavery, invented incredible technology that has allowed us as human beings to live in comfort.... white people have defeated some of the worst plagues, discovered penicillin.. devised the means to feed millions of people.... It goes on and on..... So by all means, let's talk about melanin. I'm in.... White people are amazing..... Organised religions, big business and finance and big politics - all these things that make civilisation "great" - are all controlled by secret societies. Secret societies control our destinies at the moment because they hold the levers of power, so yes, white people are slaves to the system, as are ell races because secret societies have control in every nation. "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." (Johann Wolfgang von Goethe) A new understanding of God will emerge, bit it won't come just through the mind. The mind is just as tool. A new understanding of God will only emerge if the mind submits to intuitive perceptions that come from the heart because where the heart is, the spirit is also. The brain should be a servant of the spirit, and the mind should facilitate that relationship. When the brain becomes master, you end up with pride and tyranny. 2 hours ago, Truthspoon said: This is just an empty platitude isn't it Rob? Why do you feel the need to say it? Conditioning? You're half white...why not be proud of that? Or at least recognise the truth of white excellence. I've said before that you yourself embody the best qualities of white civilisation and you must admit that your interests and talents come from this part of your heritage.... the European part. Why hide? You're European...rejoice and be grateful that God made you so. It's certainly not a platitude to say all races can be amazing. It should actually go without saying, and it would be even better not to have to say it in the first place, but when someone comes trotting along and says their race is better than all others, or their skin colour is better than all others, then it does have to be said, and I don't care if it's a black person making the boasts, a white or brown person, or any person boasting about their race. It's like sexuality gone sour. Why should I be proud of something that's just an illusion? Getting hung-up on skin colour only brings unhappiness. Skin colour is an irrelevance. In my life, all the people I've known, who were hung up about skin colour, were unhappy, had social problems, and weren't liked. I'm not half anything. I am a full person. Why do say to me, "why hide"? That's never even crossed my mind. To me that just comes across as an unnecessary patronising comment. Edited December 24, 2021 by RobSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) I think it's important to point out the context of those comments... One of the forumers was saying that in black spiritual circles, black people are seen as more spiritual because they can absorb more sunlight because of their skin colour....nonsense of course... I turned that around and said 'what if I said white people are more spiritual because of their skin colour' etc... Such a comment wouldn't merely be nonsense it would be considered racist. But I'm pleased you've highlighted this.... I think white people need more credit these days for their achievements rather than the abuse and hatred which is slowly being worked up against them in academia and left-wing political currents which seem to have infected all our institutions. Edited December 24, 2021 by Truthspoon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: I think it's important to point out the context of those comments... One of the forumers was saying that in black spiritual circles, black people are seen as more spiritual because they can absorb more sunlight because of their skin colour....nonsense of course... I turned that around and said 'what if I said white people are more spiritual because of their skin colour' etc... Such a comment wouldn't merely be nonsense it would be considered racist. Yes, such comments are racist. It's just as racist for a white person to say whites are more spiritual than blacks, as it would be for a black person to say blacks are more spiritual than whites. 3 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: I think white people need more credit these days for their achievements rather than the abuse and hatred which is slowly being worked up against them in academia and left-wing political currents which seem to have infected all our institutions. It may come as news to you, but a lot of black people feel the same way about the way they are treated by whites, so what you get is extremism and a polarisation - blacks, who feel victimised, and whites who also feel victimised - these two extremes being the opposite sides of the same coin. These two sides end up fighting each other and both fall victim of the divide and conquer agenda. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 29 minutes ago, RobSS said: It's certainly not a platitude to say all races can be amazing. It should actually go without saying, and it would be even better not to have to say it in the first place, but when someone comes trotting along and says their race is better than all others, or their skin colour is better than all others, then it does have to be said, and I don't care if it's a black person making the boasts, a white or brown person, or any person boasting about their race. It's like sexuality gone sour. Why should I be proud of something that's just an illusion? Getting hung-up on skin colour only brings unhappiness. Skin colour is an irrelevance. In my life, all the people I've known, who were hung up about skin colour, were unhappy, had social problems, and weren't liked. I'm not half anything. I am a full person. Why do say to me, "why hide"? That's never even crossed my mind. To me that just comes across as an unnecessary patronising comment. Why did you say to me "why hide"? I would like to know why you said that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Truthspoon said: You're half white...why not be proud of that? Or at least recognise the truth of white excellence. Why should I be proud of something I take for granted, something that's just surface reality, an illusion? "White excellence" and "black excellence" are mindless expressions, charged with negative energy. Edited December 24, 2021 by RobSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Truthspoon said: I've said before that you yourself embody the best qualities of white civilisation and you must admit that your interests and talents come from this part of your heritage.... the European part. No one, on my mother's side, has any musical talent. However, on my father's side, my grandmother was a piano teacher in Barbados, and my cousin, on my father's side, is singer and musician. So I get most, if not all my talent from my black heritage. Edited December 24, 2021 by RobSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 The world is changing People of all skin colours are going to need to give consideration to what they value.....what they want to protect so that it carries forward into what's coming next. What has value? What is worth protecting from the nihilists? What sustains us, what brings justice, what brings meaning to our existence as human beings I think there is something in the fear that western civilisation is under attack and i think its a mistake to simplify the worlds problems down to simply blaming 'capitalism' as we don't really have capitalism. We have a command and control economy that is run by secret societies who are leading us towards a collectivised technocracy run centrally by them If we don't share that vision then we (people of all skin colours) need to start thinking about what things need to be protected in order to stop the world falling into darkness 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 I know TS means well. I don't think he always realises how his comments affect others. The world is changing - hopefully, it will make us all better. Mindfulness is a very helpful aid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 A thread to comment on comments .....dear god we've all gone mad! FWIW...... my input is: I guess there was a point, otherwise he wouldn't have said it.......but I have more interest in the contents of my fridge salad box atm.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mr H said: A thread to comment on comments .....dear god we've all gone mad! FWIW...... my input is: I guess there was a point, otherwise he wouldn't have said it.......but I have more interest in the contents of my fridge salad box atm.......... I have sympathy for salad box in the fridge. Go for it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skitzorat Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 Ah muh "precious whites" - again. What a surprise Rob takes a comment out of context, as usual, then starts a divisive thread with it. You really are a subversive racist. Pity you're just not that particularly good at being subversive about it. Why don't you just take the mask off and say you hate white people and hate any notion of them feeling good about themselves or their historical achievements, instead of attempting to gloss over that hatred with woke pseudo-babble and whataboutisms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share Posted December 25, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, skitzorat said: Ah muh "precious whites" - again. I would say the same to blacks who regard other blacks as more precious than anyone else with different coloured skin, so there's nothing to see here. 4 hours ago, skitzorat said: What a surprise Rob takes a comment out of context, as usual, then starts a divisive thread with it. I don't think it was out of context. It was an excuse to play the race card, and the idea that 'if they can be racist, why can't we', and that was confirmed by the way in which TS continued on the theme, saying my talent and interest comes from the white part of my being, implying that the other half is worthless. If you agree with that, then yes, you are a racist. 4 hours ago, skitzorat said: You really are a subversive racist. Pity you're just not that particularly good at being subversive about it. Why don't you just take the mask off and say you hate white people and hate any notion of them feeling good about themselves or their historical achievements, instead of attempting to gloss over that hatred with woke pseudo-babble and whataboutisms. What stupid comments. I'm more than happy to acknowledge the achievements of whites, but I also acknowledge the achievements of black culture. I don't have to wear a mask. I am what I am. Why don't you say outright that you're a racist? You don't have the guts and because of your naivety, you're allowing yourself to be played by the system. "There is a field of consciousness that connects everything, so it doesn't matter if you're black, white, Asian, Chinese, Aboriginal... it doesn't matter what your form is... YOU are part of the same consciousness. YOU are just a unique expression of it, and that perception that we're all connected immediately starts dropping the fault lines the cult is desperate to perpetuate, so that different versions of form can be played off against each other." (David Icke) Edited December 25, 2021 by RobSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 6 hours ago, RobSS said: I would say the same to blacks who regard other blacks as more precious than anyone else with different coloured skin, so there's nothing to see here. Bad faith. You don't. You attack those who do bring this up and you have done so repeatedly by retreating to your 'whataboutery' antics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, RobSS said: Why don't you say outright that you're a racist? You don't have the guts and because of your naivety, you're allowing yourself to be played by the system. Yes, admit to it so Rob and can have you sent to the extermination camp with a clean conscience and won't have to extract your confession through torture, because you are are just an evil racist, evidently. Because you care about your people = evil. Edited December 25, 2021 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 22 hours ago, Mr H said: A thread to comment on comments .....dear god we've all gone mad! FWIW...... my input is: I guess there was a point, otherwise he wouldn't have said it.......but I have more interest in the contents of my fridge salad box atm.......... I am starting to think he is mentally ill. I gave him the benefit of the doubt for a long while but I am heartily sick to death of him now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share Posted December 25, 2021 (edited) Yawn! Edited December 25, 2021 by RobSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, RobSS said: Yawn! Have you considered the possibility that you might be insane? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share Posted December 25, 2021 On 12/24/2021 at 5:43 PM, Truthspoon said: You're half white...why not be proud of that? Or at least recognise the truth of white excellence. I acknowledge excellence in all cultures, not just white. On 12/24/2021 at 5:43 PM, Truthspoon said: I've said before that you yourself embody the best qualities of white civilisation and you must admit that your interests and talents come from this part of your heritage.... the European part. Nobody, on my mother's side, has any musical talent. However, on my father's side, my grandmother was a piano teacher in Barbados, and my cousin, on my father's side, is singer and musician. So I get most, if not all my talent from my black heritage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, RobSS said: I acknowledge excellence in all cultures, not just white. Nobody, on my mother's side, has any musical talent. However, on my father's side, my grandmother was a piano teacher in Barbados, and my cousin, on my father's side, is singer and musician. So I get most, if not all my talent from my black heritage. So which side does your insanity come from? I'm sick of playing games with you as is everyone here who is paying attention. Something is wrong with you. I've tried to be nice, witty, funny, charming, disarming, even tried to make you feel valued as a person... None of this worked.... You still don't engage with reality and other forummers in any meaningful or human way. It's you Rob, who has the problem...not us. Edited December 25, 2021 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share Posted December 25, 2021 Just now, Truthspoon said: So which side does your insanity come from? You're still projecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 (edited) I am desperate for some flicker of humanity to work with Rob...but you have none.... It's all just cartoons, apocalypse, and 'you're a racist'. That's almost a robot response........ Like some kind of machine going through its available software. The human in you knows I am right and I can help you. I only ever wanted to help you. But your programme being so hardwired in you can't see any alternative. I remember you telling me the world would end in 6 months. This was in 2016. It hasn't. I knew it wouldn't. But you were always sure the world would end in a couple of months... Jehovah's Witnesses programming? You need to break that shit. It's limiting you as a real person. Edited December 25, 2021 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share Posted December 25, 2021 Just now, Truthspoon said: I am desperate for some flicker of humanity to work with Rob...but you have none.... It's all just cartoons, apocalypse, and 'you're a racist'. That's almost a robot response........ Like some kind of machine going through its available software. The human in you knows I am right and I can help you. I only ever wanted to help you. My conscience is clear of any racism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, RobSS said: My conscience is clear of any racism. Because you're sacred half-black. Protected. Racism is against whites these days. People here draw attention to anti-white racism and you do the 'whataboutery' shuffle. Makes you complicit. Edited December 25, 2021 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share Posted December 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: I remember you telling me the world would end in 6 months. This was in 2016. You're imagining that. I've never said the world is coming to an end. I've never even believed the world is going to end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share Posted December 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Truthspoon said: Because you're sacred half-black. Protected. Racism is against whites these days. Why don't you get lost with your racism. It's becoming too obnoxious now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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