jois Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 minute ago, TheConsultant said: No my objection is to the term quantum and thinking of light as particles i.e. a photon. which has no baring in reality. But we have covered that.a quantum is a discrete unit of energy. I fail to see what you objection to that statement and therefore the word is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, jois said: But we have covered that.a quantum is a discrete unit of energy. I fail to see what you objection to that statement and therefore the word is Waves are infinite in potential, quanta discrete units of energy are a finite resolution. Not infinite. Edited September 12, 2022 by TheConsultant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jois Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Just now, TheConsultant said: Waves are infinite in potential, quanta discrete units of energy are a resolution. Not infinite. Of course they are not infinite.they are discrete. Waves are infinite in length not energy. There is no contradiction there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 minute ago, jois said: Of course they are not infinite.they are discrete. Waves are infinite in length not energy. There is no contradiction there Apologies I mean a field is infinite potential. Not a discrete resolution of potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jois Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 minute ago, TheConsultant said: Apologies I mean a field is infinite potential. Not a discrete resolution of potential. Fields are infinite in length as well.the wave moves through the field for well ever. The energy decreases over time to a lower quantum of energy but never no energy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, jois said: Fields are infinite in length as well.the wave moves through the field for well ever. The energy decreases over time to a lower quantum of energy but never no energy The energy decreases because of conservation of energy, and pauli exclusion principle is at play at all times. Fields are infinite potential, not any dimension/attribute you try to attribute to it. Edited September 12, 2022 by TheConsultant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jois Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, TheConsultant said: The energy decreases because of conservation of energy, and pauli exclusion principle is at play. Fields are infinite potential, not an dimension you try to attribute to it. No it doesn't it decrease as the wave get stretched on it journey. That's why stars are dim and the sun is bright the photons had the same energy when they left Edited September 12, 2022 by jois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Just now, jois said: No it doesn't it decrease as the wave get stretched on it journey. That's why stars are dim and the sun is bright no that's because of inverse square law and radiated energy of all types following that. Talking of stretching, that is doppler effect seen visually, which is qhat gives rise to red and blue shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jois Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TheConsultant said: no that's because of inverse square law and radiated energy of all types following that. Talking of stretching, that is doppler effect seen visually, which is qhat gives rise to red and blue shift. And why does light get dimmer in accordance with the inverse square law ? Because the photon loses energy over distance It's the formular that applies not a explanation Edited September 12, 2022 by jois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 minute ago, jois said: And why does light get dimmer in accordance with the inverse square law ? Because the photon loses energy over distance It's the formular that applies not a explanation Nothing to do with photons, nor is light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jois Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, TheConsultant said: no that's because of inverse square law and radiated energy of all types following that. Talking of stretching, that is doppler effect seen visually, which is qhat gives rise to red and blue shift. Yea but they only get longer.so just red shift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jois Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TheConsultant said: Nothing to do with photons, nor is light. If your saying photons arnt light.which you said they were earlier.im off to aldi Edited September 12, 2022 by jois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Just now, jois said: Yea but they only get longer.so just red shift When its travelling towards you its blue shift i.e. getting shorter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jois Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 minute ago, TheConsultant said: When its travelling towards you its blue shift i.e. getting shorter. No it only stretched ie becomes red over the distance from stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Just now, jois said: No it only stretched ie becomes red over the distance from stars. and blue when the object is travelling towards you, its analogous to doppler, instead of being sound it is light. Interestingly there is a doppler circuit within a magnet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jois Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, TheConsultant said: When its travelling towards you its blue shift i.e. getting shorter. That's apart from the fact you can only see light coming towards you.your retina can't catch light going away from you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jois Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 minute ago, TheConsultant said: and blue when the object is travelling towards you, its analogous to doppler, instead of being sound it is light. Interestingly there is a doppler circuit within a magnet. Have you misread that. There is a dipole in a magnet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 minute ago, jois said: Have you misread that. There is a dipole in a magnet no, a magnet has two poles but four "energies" within itself, centrifugal and centripetal each on both poles = 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, jois said: That's apart from the fact you can only see light coming towards you.your retina can't catch light going away from you . Edited September 12, 2022 by TheConsultant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jois Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 minute ago, TheConsultant said: no, a magnet has two poles but four "energies" within itself, centrifugal and centripetal each on both poles = 4. Does it have a Doppler is the question. I don't know. Tell me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jois Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 minute ago, TheConsultant said: What is artificial intelligence? Depends on your definition of intelligence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, jois said: your retina can't catch light going away from you yes it can, light is omnidirectional not directional. The blue or red shift is a stretching or compression of the "wave" which moves it up in pitch in terms of doppler, or towards blue in light, down in pitch or red in light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jois Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Just now, TheConsultant said: yes it can, light is omnidirectional not directional. The blue or red shift is a stretching or compression of the "wave" which moves it up in pitch in terms of doppler, or towards blue in light, down in pitch or red in light. No it cant.it depends on photons hitting you retina. If the photon is traveling away from you it cant possible hit your retina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, jois said: No it cant.it depends on photons hitting you retina. If the photon is traveling away from you it cant possible hit your retina light is omnidirectional. Inverse square law. Edited September 12, 2022 by TheConsultant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jois Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Just now, TheConsultant said: light is omnidirectional. Inverse square law. That's not what the inverse square laws says. No absence of gravity is only treks in straight lines. Very straight lines which is why they use laser levels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.