bobb Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 I have started this thread for a general discussion on something that is relevant in our daily lives and yet no one really has handle on what the dam thing is. Please post as many absurdities as you wish, as I am sure the truth of this thing is pretty much just as absurd as anything we can imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 It annoys me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 If time is money, why am I always skint? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 If time is linear why do we measure it within a circle, baffling that one, it would seem that time does not tick but it does clock, well that's a bit weird for a start. If we look at a clock from the back does that mean time runs backwards, so why do we assume it goes forwards, makes no sense at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) I dunno Bobb... I applaud your efforts...but what is it with your permanent 'ironic pose'..... I mean, that's fine...but people who are permanently being 'ironic' are hard to take seriously and thus, hard to trust... Why not try being sincere and just be yourself? Whatever monster that may unleash..... It's tiring and sweaty to always wear a mask.... as these Covid times have taught us. Just drop it and be yourself..... Then we can talk....... because I'm not going to post anything here if you're looking for absurdities. Makes me wonder in my paranoid conspiracy brain whether you work for a TV production company or mainstream newspaper or something and are looking for conspiracy nonsense to make a big plate of shit over. That's the kind of 'ironic pose' I imagine such a person would present. A wholly insincere one. You need to start showing good faith my friend, and I don't mean praising JAYsus... I just mean stop hiding behind a character and be a real person... if you are one. Edited December 23, 2021 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: ironic pose Don't know anything about that, but I write from the heart, I am really like this if you had not worked it out already, kinda hard to keep going with whatever you are suggesting, no? Edited December 23, 2021 by bobb lack of proper grammer, there that makes more nonsense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 If time is static why do we move then, whats pushing us along, just energy, so why is it moving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: Then we can talk....... because I'm not going to post anything here if you're looking for absurdities Well check out the first post of mine, what does it say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: Whatever monster that may unleash..... Oh, please watch the 'Forbidden Planet' for unleashing monsters. Edited December 23, 2021 by bobb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Truthspoon Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, bobb said: If time is static why do we move then, whats pushing us along, just energy, so why is it moving? Time is static in relation to eternity. Edited December 23, 2021 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) I am not that Pinocchio A.I. brat that you speak of, annoying little shit that even hes so called mother dropped the little bastard off in the woods to rust to death. Edited December 23, 2021 by bobb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) https://www.truthspoon.com/p/quantum-physics-and-ultimate-reality.html Light is timeless light is spaceless, there is no separation between events as they are recorded by light. The speed of light is the speed limit of the universe and the universe ceases to exist in its present form at the speed of light. Therefore since photons travel at the speed of light they must exist in a state which is outside or apart from our present universe. The speed of light is the escape velocity of the universe. The Lorentz contraction means that the closer an object were able to travel to the speed of light, the more it’s length would contract, namely it would get smaller and smaller. This effect is only noticeable from velocities of around 30 million mph, and then only at infinitesimal degrees, but the closer the object were to move to the speed of light 670 million miles per hour the more the object appears to get smaller and smaller until at the speed of light the length goes down to zero and the object disappears, at least to an observer. Anyone who could somehow record or perceive reality from the point of view of the object travelling at the speed of light would find that it wasn’t the object which became infinitely compact, but the universe itself. The corollary of the object disappearing from the point of view of an observer would be that the object no longer existed in space and indeed that space itself no longer exists. We also know from Einstein’s theory of special relativity that time slows to zero at the speed of light, therefore we would no longer be in time and no longer ‘in space’. But let’s get this clear, this doesn’t mean the object no longer exists in some real way. Merely because it is no longer ‘in space’ doesn’t mean it has gone anywhere. Instead it is everywhere at once. Being ‘in space’ literally means to be contained within a boundary and to be located at some point within those boundaries. At the speed of light there is no longer any containment within space. The light IS the space. All of it. And a thing cannot be contained within itself. When the Lorentz contraction effect on the speed of light reduces the object to a zero point in space it has effectively ‘tunnelled’ out of real space and is now free to be anywhere it likes and at any time. This is perhaps a similar effect to that of quantum tunnelling which is a mathematically impossible process by which stars release photons from the fusion collisions at the heart of the sun. It is not actually hot enough in the centre of the sun, at a mere 15 million degrees Kelvin to power nuclear fusion, Earth based experiments to create nuclear fusion require temperatures 10 times this which are produced in a plasma Torus, however because of the quantum probability that a protons ‘field of action’ can interfere with another protons field of action, then despite there not being enough energy for this to take place, it takes place all the same. Physicists are far from certain of the mechanics behind this process but in all likelihood it probably involves the ability of a proton travelling at the speed of light to transcend time and space and to merge with the energy of another proton and therefore prompt nuclear fusion. Infinity does not exist in science but in maths is easily producible but it will probably cause you calculator some confusion. I haven’t used a pocket calculator for a while but in my day putting 10 divided by zero would make the calculator have a break-down and produce either the word ‘error’ or ‘c’ and this meant you had to turn it off an on again. It may seem weird for there to be an infinite number of ‘0’s’ in a number but it is easily demonstrable. Divide 10 by 10 and you get 1, divide 10 by five and you get 2, how about dividing 10 by a small number, say 0.01, well this is the same number as pennies in 10 pounds and the answer is 1000. If you make the number smaller and smaller then the answer will get bigger and bigger, this inverse ratio is limitless therefore in theory this calculation can continue towards an infinitely large number. So 10 divided by 0.000000001 would be 10000000000 so the assumption is that since the number gets bigger and bigger the closer one gets to zero, then at zero the number must be of infinite bigness. It’s slightly conceptual and perhaps may well be complete nonsense, but it is one of the assumptions mathematicians exploring infinity will work from, though your pocket calculator may not be quite in agreement. Light itself is invisible until there is something which causes it to scatter into a direction where it can be detected by the eye. So the universe is in fact full of light and because light is both particle and a wave then it can exist and manifest as a point or region in 3d reality, for instance in your bedroom with the light on, but it also exists as part of the universal light wave which as we know transcends time and space. There is an infinite and eternal field of omnipresence which as we know, can record all of the 3d information in the 3d universe. It’s almost as if the material universe of matter and objects exist in shadow until brought into reality by the light. Edited December 23, 2021 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: https://www.truthspoon.com/p/quantum-physics-and-ultimate-reality.html Light is timeless light is spaceless, there is no separation between events as they are recorded by light. The speed of light is the speed limit of the universe and the universe ceases to exist in its present form at the speed of light. Therefore since photons travel at the speed of light they must exist in a state which is outside or apart from our present universe. The speed of light is the escape velocity of the universe. The Lorentz contraction means that the closer an object were able to travel to the speed of light, the more it’s length would contract, namely it would get smaller and smaller. This effect is only noticeable from velocities of around 30 million mph, and then only at infinitesimal degrees, but the closer the object were to move to the speed of light 670 million miles per hour the more the object appears to get smaller and smaller until at the speed of light the length goes down to zero and the object disappears, at least to an observer. Anyone who could somehow record or perceive reality from the point of view of the object travelling at the speed of light would find that it wasn’t the object which became infinitely compact, but the universe itself. The corollary of the object disappearing from the point of view of an observer would be that the object no longer existed in space and indeed that space itself no longer exists. We also know from Einstein’s theory of special relativity that time slows to zero at the speed of light, therefore we would no longer be in time and no longer ‘in space’. But let’s get this clear, this doesn’t mean the object no longer exists in some real way. Merely because it is no longer ‘in space’ doesn’t mean it has gone anywhere. Instead it is everywhere at once. Being ‘in space’ literally means to be contained within a boundary and to be located at some point within those boundaries. At the speed of light there is no longer any containment within space. The light IS the space. All of it. And a thing cannot be contained within itself. When the Lorentz contraction effect on the speed of light reduces the object to a zero point in space it has effectively ‘tunnelled’ out of real space and is now free to be anywhere it likes and at any time. This is perhaps a similar effect to that of quantum tunnelling which is a mathematically impossible process by which stars release photons from the fusion collisions at the heart of the sun. It is not actually hot enough in the centre of the sun, at a mere 15 million degrees Kelvin to power nuclear fusion, Earth based experiments to create nuclear fusion require temperatures 10 times this which are produced in a plasma Torus, however because of the quantum probability that a protons ‘field of action’ can interfere with another protons field of action, then despite there not being enough energy for this to take place, it takes place all the same. Physicists are far from certain of the mechanics behind this process but in all likelihood it probably involves the ability of a proton travelling at the speed of light to transcend time and space and to merge with the energy of another proton and therefore prompt nuclear fusion. Infinity does not exist in science but in maths is easily producible but it will probably cause you calculator some confusion. I haven’t used a pocket calculator for a while but in my day putting 10 divided by zero would make the calculator have a break-down and produce either the word ‘error’ or ‘c’ and this meant you had to turn it off an on again. It may seem weird for there to be an infinite number of ‘0’s’ in a number but it is easily demonstrable. Divide 10 by 10 and you get 1, divide 10 by five and you get 2, how about dividing 10 by a small number, say 0.01, well this is the same number as pennies in 10 pounds and the answer is 1000. If you make the number smaller and smaller then the answer will get bigger and bigger, this inverse ratio is limitless therefore ih theory this calculation can continue towards an infinitely large number. So 10 divided by 0.000000001 would be 10000000000 so the assumption is that since the number gets bigger and bigger the closer one gets to zero, then at zero the number must be of infinite bigness. It’s slightly conceptual and perhaps may well be complete nonsense, but it is one of the assumption mathematicians exploring infinity will work from, though your pocket calculator may not be quite in agreement. Light itself is invisible until there is something which causes it to scatter into a direction where it can be detected by the eye. So the universe is in fact full of light and because light is both particle and a wave then it can exist and manifest as a point or region in 3d reality, for instance in your bedroom with the light on, but it also exists as part of the universal light wave which as we know transcends time and space. There is an infinite and eternal field of omnipresence which as we know, can record all of the 3d information in the 3d universe. It’s almost as if the material universe of matter and objects exist in shadow until brought into reality by the light. Oh, brilliant you posted a great big monolithic brontosaurus of a post that will take forever to meticulously dissect to understand. Edited December 23, 2021 by bobb more crap spulling, ahh did that on purpose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 It is interesting you used rocket analogy in this as I had similar ideas, but give me a week to read and i'll come back to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 Could you help me out by making the font size a little smaller, cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: It is not actually hot enough in the centre of the sun, at a mere 15 million degrees Kelvin to power nuclear fusion I disagree with this, I think, though I can not prove, that all Stars are just above Absolute Zero at their center's. Edited December 23, 2021 by bobb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, bobb said: Could you help me out by making the font size a little smaller, cheers. No. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: It’s almost as if the material universe of matter and objects exist in shadow until brought into reality by the light And brainstein famously said "I refuse to believe that the moon is not there when I am not looking at it", unfortunately for Einstein he died before he could finish the whole sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: light is spaceless, there is no separation between events as they are recorded by light I agree with this, a photon leaving point A, arrives at point B, at the same time no matter the distance, but observers record that time has passed, hmm, sneaky little things these photon's are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 28 minutes ago, bobb said: I am not that Pinocchio A.I. brat that you speak of, annoying little shit that even hes so called mother dropped the little bastard off in the woods to rust to death. And following on with this, why did the little shit go spend for what must have been an eternity staring at a blue fukin fairy, not very bright that one was it, no wonder everyone comitted extinction because no one could turn the little bastard off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 40 minutes ago, bobb said: I disagree with this, I think, though I can not prove, that all Stars are just above Absolute Zero at their center's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) You can't have 'absolute zero' IN the universe, it's one of the absolute limits of material reality like the speed of light. https://www.truthspoon.com/2015/08/quantum-physics-telling-us-what-jesus.html Strange Matter Bose Einstein Condensate is like a super cold plasma a billionth of a degree Kelvin above Absolute Zero. At Absolute Zero there is no longer any energetic motion within the atom, in a sense it is no longer physically active and at a position of total rest. At this temperature atoms and molecules are no longer separated as they are in other states of matter whether it be gas or liquid, instead they are woven together in a fluid unity. Daniel Keppner of the MIT Department of Physics describes this new state of matter as something which thinks it’s everywhere at once. Edited December 23, 2021 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Truthspoon said: it also exists as part of the universal light wave which as we know transcends time and space No it does not transcend time and space because it is governed by the laws of physics, which it obeys meticulously like everything else in existence, governed by said laws, unless you are saying there is another realm of existence to which it pops in and out of like the Dirac equations suggest that there is an anti-verse connected to and interacting with this version of reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: there is no longer any energetic motion within the atom I disagree here, anyone for a cocktail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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