David Icke not only believes in GOD...

[novymir]

...but also(actually) Knows GOD. He also is aware that Jesus was/IS of The Truth, not a fictional character.

 

Any clowns that automatically associate the use of the word "GOD", "Jesus' or "Christ" with  "religious fanatic", "religious nutcase", "religious moron",  are clearly ignorant of David's point of view, have not paid attention to what/how he expresses himself in videos, or read his books.

 

He's said, "I prefer to not use the word "GOD""( but HAS AND DOES ON OCCASSION),  but his alternative words and description is simply a dissociation from organized dogmatic, corrupted religion, and a way to not deal with the guilt-by-association the assholes use(an exploit) against them that do use those words.  It isn't the "words" or idea-meaning of the words that has any "evil",  it is what others that use and associate themselves with them that might be involved with evil(delusion-error).  "By their fruits, you will know them".

 

So, them that show up on this forum using passive-aggressive tactics to pretend that David does not accept the truth of my 1st sentence of this post, and then offer up specious claims and insinuations that are disingenuous , and an impugnment against posters on this forum that do not have an actual association with any organized religion,  this is not to say that all "religious" meetings of people are neccessarily "evil", or "stupid", "dangerous"  dogmatic  control-system entities used to exploit and abuse humans, they are not all that way, and there are individuals within these things that have not lost their individuality and capacity for free thought.

 

Spirituality and religion ARE NOT THE SAME. If you ain't got Spirit, you ain't got nothing.

 

Just in his last video, he looks upwards, throws his hands upwards, and says, "...Mother!, take me home!.,,, they're mad down here...!".

Yeah, he's joking, but only about the intent to leave then and there...

It was cute, cause he's a cutie(GOD tells me this).

https://davidicke.com/2021/12/19/jorn-lukas-truman-show-team-flew-to-the-isle-of-wight-to-go-in-depth-with-david-icke-heres-the-video/

ps; just what do you call what he is basically pleading people to (re)connect with in the last 15 minutes of the interview? He calls IT Infinite Consciousness/Love, I call IT GOD-TRUTH-REALITY.

From the main "news" site:

https://davidicke.com/2021/12/20/jesus-christ-conspiracy-theorist/

 

 

I won't bother to respond to any disputes(unless it's David or a genuine representative of David)...I don't bother arguing or debating with the...(ego/demon(reptilian?)-possessed).

 

 

Edited December 22, 2021 by novymir

[Apotheosis]

Someone saying he believes in "God" tells me little. That word is not sufficient to identify its intended referent.

[novymir]

3 hours ago, Apotheosis said:

Someone saying he believes in "God" tells me little. That word is not sufficient to identify its intended referent.

Yeah. Basically, it's just a generic term(to me) used to express a belief or awareness of something greater than the individual self, and something more(and beyond) than just what the 5-senses (illusion) can explain or comprehend.

 

[Guardian]

 

Funny how the mods still allow this thread that is clearly against the rules and paints David as something he is not.

 

While the mods deleted my thread, 'The mods are not doing their job' exposing the religious agenda here.

 

They are clearly compromised.

 

And they still haven't removed the warning point for upsetting one of their cult member by simply no bowing down to religion.

 

Very interesting.

 

David clear view on religion:

 

https://www.bitchute.com/video/DNKURlR7WaYG/

[novymir]

Yeah, David Icke says(in that clip) : "...many of them....".   NOT all of them , unlike  what "Guardian" says; "religion is bad"(from a previous post)(sweeping generalization).

So, there is a dishonest attempt by "Guardian" to use D.I. to validate his own system of belief.

 

But "Guardian" has uncovered a conspiracy against himself here by "religious fanatics" and the mods are part of it....

 

Someone is either ignorantly or purposely confusing spirituality and religion, and also attempting to project "evil" where it is not, certainly this person cannot speak for all "religious" meetings and groupings of people.

So, it appears to me more of an anti-God agenda than an anti-religious one. One need not be involved in religion to use that word "GOD', but even if they are, that doesn't automatically make them stupid or "evil', or part of the problem.

 

Is this not reasonable?

 

Edited December 24, 2021 by novymir

[Origin]

45 minutes ago, novymir said:

 

 

But "Guardian" has uncovered a conspiracy against himself here by "religious fanatics" and the mods are part of it....

 

No. You were the reason it was closed. And it was your post that was deleted after you tried to provoke Guardian. What a role model you are. 

[Guest m754]

1 hour ago, novymir said:

Someone is either ignorantly or purposely confusing spirituality and religion

 

1 hour ago, novymir said:

it appears to me more of an anti-God agenda than an anti-religious one

 

Yes...the intentions of this member Guardian are a bit suspect. He is clearly not silly or confused or lost in any way...but trying very hard to portray that he is. He is probably here to sow discontent in the minds of members who might believe in a higher power by whatever name..  

 

Edited December 24, 2021 by m754

[novymir]

6 minutes ago, Origin said:

No. You were the reason it was closed. And it was your post that was deleted after you tried to provoke Guardian. What a role model you are. 

Yeah, yeah, sure....

I'm not trying to be a "role model". No one needs me for a role model.  Sorry, but I can't be sorry that I don't operate as you think is acceptable...

 

In case you haven't caught on yet,,,, we're in for some seriously ugly shit ahead,,, what D.I. says about "accessing Infinite Consciousness" is actually kind of vital...like, there's nothing more important. The time for gameplaying and fantasy is winding down.

 

[novymir]

39 minutes ago, m754 said:

 

 

Yes...the intentions of this member Guardian are a bit suspect. He is clearly not silly or confused or lost in any way...but trying very hard to portray that he is. He is probably here to sow discontent in the minds of members who might believe in a higher power by whatever name..  

 

I know what he is. And I know why he's here.

Look at the dude's name...look at his avatar....it screams: "gatekeeper".  Is he consciously aware of how he's being used? Probably not, but maybe.

And they think I'm supposed to be all lovey-dovey, and not call it out. And then they point the finger and accuse me of hypocrisy...because they don't like being called out.

I KNOW THIS FUCKING GAME.

 

ps- I'm not screaming at you with the caps, just emphasizing something...

Edited December 24, 2021 by novymir

[Origin]

7 minutes ago, novymir said:

Yeah, yeah, sure....

I'm not trying to be a "role model". No one needs me for a role model.  Sorry, but I can't be sorry that I don't operate as you think is acceptable...

 

In case you haven't caught on yet,,,, we're in for some seriously ugly shit ahead,,, what D.I. says about "accessing Infinite Consciousness" is actually kind of vital...like, there's nothing more important. The time for gameplaying and fantasy is winding down.

 

And? What makes you think that humans have understood any of this? Awakening is another illusion within the illusion. No one's going to see something they're not ready for. Especially the dream of being something special. Being better..

[Guardian]

33 minutes ago, Origin said:

No. You were the reason it was closed. And it was your post that was deleted after you tried to provoke Guardian. What a role model you are. 

 

This guy is beyond reason, my friend. Don't waste your time.

[novymir]

17 minutes ago, Origin said:

And? What makes you think that humans have understood any of this? Awakening is another illusion within the illusion. No one's going to see something they're not ready for. Especially the dream of being something special. Being better..

Yes, I know, but the effort must be made. Some I have come into contact with are ready, and this serves to strengthen The Truth within and beyond.

"Awakening" can be another illusion within the illusion, that's why The Truth(and awakening to The Real) is the only way out. David has accessed it, many others have, I have. All we really need do is let go of the ego, and not fall for it's lies, otherwise, there's no leaving here.

It's gonna collapse(it's shrinking), not if, but when. Then it's over.

Edited December 24, 2021 by novymir

[Origin]

5 minutes ago, novymir said:

Yes, I know, but the effort must be made. Some I have come into contact with are ready, and this serves to strengthen The Truth within and beyond.

Awakening can be another illusion with the illusion, that's why The Truth is the only way out. David has accessed it, many others have, I have. All we really need do is let go of the ego, and not fall for it's lies, otherwise, there's no leaving here.

It's gonna collapse(it's shrinking), not if, but when. Then it's over.

Nothing will ever end. When illusions fade away comes recognition. That we have never been alone.

[novymir]

1 minute ago, Origin said:

Nothing will ever end. When illusions fade away comes recognition. That we have never been alone.

I think you kind of contradict yourself there. Yeah, Reality IS, there is nothing else but Reality.

The momentary tuning out from Reality will end.

[Origin]

5 minutes ago, novymir said:

I think you kind of contradict yourself there. Yeah, Reality IS, there is nothing else but Reality.

The momentary tuning out from Reality will end.

But we are not in reality. It is a tiny fragment of something grander that still needs to be put into the right context. Nothing can be forced here by Humans.

[Guest m754]

And if people are wondering why this anti-God brigade has been let loose on us all of a sudden, the reason is to do with how you leave this 'body'---whatever shape, form, or illusory nature you ascribe to it---this 'thing' we seem to be occupying---there is an occult reason in what way one exits and in what state of mind and belief results in breaking this prison or not---

Every single bit of thought and belief has life that will bring you back--how you 'exit' is what the controllers are trying to manipulate.

 

They know this. They do not want us to know and want us to focus on squabbling over useless things.

 

This is serious for them--otherwise there would be no reason to unleash this negative energy on us..just when the time to go is very close---for all of us.

 

This is a critical time.

 

[novymir]

12 minutes ago, Origin said:

But we are not in reality. It is a tiny fragment of something grander that still needs to be put into the right context. Nothing can be forced here by Humans.

Actually, we are in Reality, there's no where else to be. I'd say it's like you say, except it's a tiny fragment of consciousness that tuned out or turned away from Reality and dreams a dream of untruth. That tiny fragment of consciousness has divided and subdivided, etc, etc, --fragmented within itself, that's all any new "births" of physical beings(human or otherwise) are, it's all of the same consciousness, taking on a perceptual experience that seems different.

Our essential Being/Life is all the same--Being Infinite Everything Within THE GREAT INFINITE ONE.

Well one thing that cannot be forced is allegience to lies and untruth, though there is an effort to do so. The Truth wil not and cannot force or impose Itself on anyone, It just waits for acceptance, but the unbound and Truthfully aware consciousness surrounding this part, is aware of the situation "here", and It is operating to free them that are willing.

[novymir]

15 minutes ago, m754 said:

And if people are wondering why this anti-God brigade has been let loose on us all of a sudden, the reason is to do with how you leave this 'body'---whatever shape, form, or illusory nature you ascribe to it---this 'thing' we seem to be occupying---there is an occult reason in what way one exits and in what state of mind and belief results in breaking this prison or not---

Every single bit of thought and belief has life that will bring you back--how you 'exit' is what the controllers are trying to manipulate.

 

They know this. They do not want us to know and want us to focus on squabbling over useless things.

 

This is serious for them--otherwise there would be no reason to unleash this negative energy on us..just when the time to go is very close---for all of us.

 

This is a critical time.

 

Yeah. I get that.

This thing is not going to go the way they think or want. They aren't as smart as they "think".

There is something Infinitely Greater and more Effective than any illusion or false idea, and IT will not and can not be stopped.

 

Try to get ; you're not really in the body, it's a projection. Go to The Source--True Reality, where you Really are, remember, that is the Reality. You need not "travel" anywhere.

Edited December 24, 2021 by novymir

[Origin]

7 minutes ago, novymir said:

Actually, we are in Reality, there's no where else to be. 

No, we are not. It is a tiny construct with extreme limitations. And it is responsible that humans have lost their way. And humans don't even have the possibility to identify what is really happening in front of their eyes.

[novymir]

6 minutes ago, Origin said:

No, we are not. It is a tiny construct with extreme limitations. And it is responsible that humans have lost their way. And humans don't even have the possibility to identify what is really happening in front of their eyes.

Reality IS, there is nothing and nowhere else to be but in illusion, delusion, psychosis, hallucination, fantasy, dreaming a dream of lies. A mirage.

But that's just how I see it.

Edited December 24, 2021 by novymir

[Guest m754]

11 minutes ago, Origin said:

No, we are not. It is a tiny construct with extreme limitations. And it is responsible that humans have lost their way. And humans don't even have the possibility to identify what is really happening in front of their eyes.

 

There cannot be anything apart from reality. For that would imply a separate existence. Which is not possible. There is a way to reach this 'conclusion' using our limited brains. What we are seeing is sort of like a 'fake superimposition' that has lost a critical 'connect' point so to speak... and is thus on a downward spiral to nothingness...

 

There is no shame in at least trying to go as far as our thinking, logic, faith etc. will take us...there must be a reason why all of these are available to us..

 

[Origin]

14 minutes ago, m754 said:

 

There is no shame in at least trying to go as far as our thinking, logic, faith etc. will take us...there must be a reason why all of these are available to us..

 

I can't argue with that. Apparently, something impossible is expected of each and every one of us.

[BlueSky]

2 hours ago, novymir said:

Yeah, yeah, sure....

I'm not trying to be a "role model". No one needs me for a role model.  Sorry, but I can't be sorry that I don't operate as you think is acceptable...

 

In case you haven't caught on yet,,,, we're in for some seriously ugly shit ahead,,, what D.I. says about "accessing Infinite Consciousness" is actually kind of vital...like, there's nothing more important. The time for gameplaying and fantasy is winding down.

 

If you're speaking for the truth you're a role model whether you like it or not. Preaching at people & not living/showing is just that. Preaching. 

 

Peace. 

[novymir]

8 hours ago, BlueSky said:

If you're speaking for the truth you're a role model whether you like it or not. Preaching at people & not living/showing is just that. Preaching. 

 

Peace. 

That's the lens you're looking through. Not everyone is seeing through the same lens. Not everyone is operating at the same level of awareness. Some will be offended because of misunderstanding, some will be hostile because their master(which they are unaware of) disapproves.

And some will get exactly what they need when they need it.

 

We're all preachers, you're preaching to me there.

Just like we're all projectors.

 

Edited December 24, 2021 by novymir

[novymir]

I also want to add that David has referenced information in the bible and the Nag Hammadi texts of pre-Roman Christian Gnosticim in a positive way to support and express his message.

So this idea that D.I. is anti-Christ ,or totally against any spiritual/religious teachings/practices associated with Christ/Jesus is ridiculous. He's basically updating the Gnostic Christian(the ones the Roman church annihilated, like the Cathars) gnosis, or awareness/understanding of what is Reality, what is this thing and what we are, and what GOD is, and what/how to get out of it, if we so will to do so.

 

Also, then, for anyone to insinuate or accuse another of being a "religious fanatic", or mind-controlled idiot because they reference those same things...what is the difference? ... that by extension that's what they are saying indirectly about D.I.?

 

I'm telling ya, the last thing they want is an authentic connection to The Spirit of Truth.