novymir Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, itsnotallrightjack said: Yeahhhh-- and says he is logical but believes in god fantasies. A contradiction there. Logic and god don't come together. "Atheism" is your "god", it seems to me, (and you may have others too).. And you will be bound to it, it will rule over you as long as you give allegience to it. Anyone can make anything their "god"(or "gods"), "god" means governing principle(s) or system of belief concerning self and "reality", cherished illusions can be "gods" as well. Mathematics can be a "god". The ego can assume the position of "god", "god" is anything we give allegience to that controls(or greatly influences) our thoughts and behaviors(and more), that which our life is(or seems to be) dependant on has the quality of "god", that which is greater than our individual self has the quality of (a) "god", if it can and does express a power and control over and above our own capability. Internally or externally. Whom you obey no matter what, what you believe, has the quality of (a) god, over you. No matter what, you do have a "god" or "gods". Just not a formal "traditional religion" kind. Edited December 23, 2021 by novymir 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 4 hours ago, itsnotallrightjack said: Yeahhhh-- and says he is logical but believes in god fantasies. A contradiction there. Logic and god don't come together. You post a laughing smiley but I would bet you're not laughing. You have been corrupted by the system..... if you can get your mind out of the bullshit they have filled you with you will have a chance.... but posting articles from Scientific American and saying 'science knows this.....' Blows my mind... you've been here for years..... and learned absolutely nothing. It's very sad...... but ultimately you're the one who suffers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 4 hours ago, itsnotallrightjack said: Being an atheist does not make someone morally bankrupt or evil, No, it just means you'll be first in line for the 3 d printed euthenasia pod... I don't really care what you believe.... obviously I want the best for you and want you to see something of the truth of the nature of reality... But I'm not offended or give a fuck what you believe.... honestly it's your problem... But I do believe in trying to help my fellow man..... but if they choose to reject that help I can only look on in pity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 @Guardian Are you a fan of Aleister Crowley? Just curious.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: @Guardian Are you a fan of Aleister Crowley? Just curious.... You again? Didn't I say I have no clue who that is. go read above before you bother me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 21 minutes ago, Guardian said: You again? Didn't I say I have no clue who that is. go read above before you bother me. Sad little baby didn't get enough hugs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Truthspoon said: Sad little baby didn't get enough hugs? The maturity from the ideology of love never fails to deliver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Guardian said: The maturity from the ideology of love never fails to deliver. Edited December 23, 2021 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Guardian said: The maturity from the ideology of love never fails to deliver. Yes and apparently I am to be "pitied" because I don't believe in god. The arrogance is staggering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Truthspoon said: @Guardian Are you a fan of Aleister Crowley? Just curious.... If he was into Crowley he'd be posting about it. We've had Crowley followers before and they discuss the magician's books etc. Look, how many times do you have to be told: people who do not believe in god/s ( atheists or non deists ) are not black magic practitioners. Because they do not believe in god/s also means they do not believe in other supernatural nonsense. If someone practises black magic, engages in occultism or follows a pagan religion he or she is not an atheist. Atheists have no religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, itsnotallrightjack said: Yes and apparently I am to be "pitied" because I don't believe in god. The arrogance is staggering. Exactly. I have no idea how you have been able to stay on this forum for 2 years without going nuts or being already recruited. I don't even have a month here.... And I already had enough of god to last me a lifetime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, itsnotallrightjack said: If he was into Crowley he'd be posting about it. We've had Crowley followers before and they discuss the magician's books etc. Not necessarily.... Also I have observed this attitude in Crowley people I knew in real life.... I just started talking about God, not even in any religious or Christian sense either, just in metaphysical terms....and you should see how they suddenly turn as if the demon inside them has suddenly been scolded by the word God.... That some people are triggered, angered, flustered and enraged by someone's spiritual beliefs and the word GOD is a bit weird and indicates that something else might be going on in that person's psyche which the person himself may not even be aware of.... SAM GOLD....... Edited December 23, 2021 by Truthspoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Truthspoon said: No, it just means you'll be first in line for the 3 d printed euthenasia pod... I don't really care what you believe.... obviously I want the best for you and want you to see something of the truth of the nature of reality... But I'm not offended or give a fuck what you believe.... honestly it's your problem... But I do believe in trying to help my fellow man..... but if they choose to reject that help I can only look on in pity. Look I was fed up and just saying what I felt at the time. I've got a broken limb, been in tremendous pain cos of it, and life is tough right now. I am the type not to try and hide that life is shit when it is shit. I don't sit there clapping to Jesus songs saying he will save me or some other such nonsense. I accept and face problems head on. Sometimes we will be unhappy and it is what it is. I don't need your "pity" because I'm not indulging in fantasies of sitting there talking to Jesus or whatever. Regarding euthanasia: I fully support it, or assisted dying, as some call it. People with terminal illnesses suffering greatly are left to die slow agonising deaths which no vet worth his salt would put a dog through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Guardian said: Exactly. I have no idea how you have been able to stay on this forum for 2 years without going nuts or being already recruited. I don't even have a month here.... And I already had enough of god to last me a lifetime. I'm not on here a lot really. One thing I have learned in this life is that god botherers will always turn up no matter where you are, highly incensed that they've come across another person who is not one bit interested in being "converted." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, itsnotallrightjack said: I'm not on here a lot really. One thing I have learned in this life is that god botherers will always turn up no matter where you are, highly incensed that they've come across another person who is not one bit interested in being "converted." Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: Not necessarily.... Also I have observed this attitude in Crowley people I knew in real life.... I just started talking about God, not even in any religious or Christian sense either, just in metaphysical terms....and you should see how they suddenly turn as if the demon inside them has suddenly been scolded by the word God.... That some people are triggered, angered, flustered and enraged by someone's spiritual beliefs and the word GOD isn't a bit weird and indicates that something else might be going on in that person's psyche which the person himself may not even be aware of.... SAM GOLD....... You still don't get it do you? I do not believe in or follow any religions. Jesus, Odin or Zeus, it's all the same to me. When someone tells you they are an atheist and don't believe in god, take it on board and stop trying to convert them. You are completely wasting your time with me. There are no gods. It is fantasy. If you choose to believe it, that's your business but don't bother me with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest m754 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 TTPTB/ cabal that are pushing atheism on young people are not atheists at all, in fact are the most superstitious and scared people one can imagine.... They are ardent believers in a supreme reality and they have a particular goal to reach---that is why they play with 'karmic' consequences in ways that we do not understand on the face of it. All this planning they are doing is for an agenda that most people cannot understand, and might be unable to comprehend fully. The Satanic practices, indeed this division of Good God of religion and Bad Satan is their creation-- only to create fear and push people first to organized religion and now to the complete extreme opposite of atheism. ...Being very very careful that the real truth is obscured and only these two options are offered. Such that one has to fit into some 'ism' ---religion or atheism or 'spirituality' or...and there will be very learned people with reams of texts about one of these 'isms' who will question your understanding if it does not fit in any one category. There is One Force==a type of 'Natural Law'—that they pray to or abide by---let us say it is like the flow of the river—it just flows not caring if a child comes in the way or a bad guy... TPTB just 'pray' to or rather 'align' to the flow of this force. Meanwhile, to keep us pre-occupied they have created all the 'isms' and organized religion etc.---but even this has not been done merely to keep us fighting, (although that is a fallout of it), but towards the primary agenda.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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