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13 hours ago, itsnotallrightjack said:

There is no god, and as for Jesus there is no historical or archaeological proof he even existed. He's a myth. 

Sounds like someone has all the answers. 

 

By the way, I'm not bothered by anyone's views and I equally understand your position about people enforcing their views on others and I do agree that overly religious people do have a penchant for seeking to enforce their view on others. But it's not everyone, and I kind of feel some people on this thread are tarring everyone with the same brush. 

 

You don't believe there's a god, cool, you don't believe in religion, cool. See, not everyone wants to ram their beliefs down your throat. 

 

All I ask is for some humility and quit the mockery because I appreciate you've not necessarily been shown that with engagements with others. However, let's not pigeon hole everyone because there are some that can have a decent conversation about anything, no matter what their beliefs are. 

 

As for atheism, well, aren't all religions atheistic in a sense? Surely you cannot pick one religion and assume all others are wrong? Does that not make you an equal atheist? Just flipping that on its head for something to think about. 

 

So whilst I respect your views, making statements like the above contradicts your position straight away. 

 

Me, I know something and nothing, mainly nothing. I have no answers, only thoughts and opinions, which like arseholes, everyone's got one. There's no right and wrong here and any one of us could be right/wrong. 

 

I think by the end of all of this that many of our axioms will be broken, whether that's religious or atheistic ideology, or whatever. Whatever you believed today will be put in the bin of history as we move forward  My belief is our ancients have so much more knowledge than we'll ever acquire. I hate the primitive tag that's ajoined to them because in my opinion, they knew more about themselves and this realm than we've ever come to realise. 

 

In addition, and to wrap this up, I see nothing wrong with having faith and I see nothing wrong with people wanting to be morally just. Criticism of people wanting to be better people is stupid and ok, they wanna ram it down your throat, I get it. But ridiculing them for their beliefs is equally stupid and hypocritical. 

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As for the problem with this forum, is there really a problem?

 

All I see is infiltration from 77th brigade shills looking to divide people and polarise opinion. It seems to be working, but to say it's the religious folk is stretching it a bit far. 🖕

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9 hours ago, itsnotallrightjack said:

That would be very worrying indeed if so. Divide and rule.

Sorry for jumping in here but that ploy is being implemented on every level, right the way down to things like school boards. If we're at each other's throats, we're not at theirs. We must be united no matter what our differences, or we'll all end up in the mincer.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

Sorry for jumping in here but that ploy is being implemented on every level, right the way down to things like school boards. If we're at each other's throats, we're not at theirs. We must be united no matter what our differences, or we'll all end up in the mincer.

 

 

Well said. 

 

We need to put aside our beliefs to win this war. It doesn't matter if you believe Jesus is coming on a unicorn to save us, or Allah, Buddah or anyone else. We just need to realise that everyone's shit stinks and we are all one and the same. 

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13 hours ago, itsnotallrightjack said:

 

 

There is no god, and as for Jesus there is no historical or archaeological proof he even existed. He's a myth. 

I agree with you. Everything is true. Because all these are interpretations of Humans. And yet Humans will have to face something. And it will be beyond all current dreams that come from humans. 

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3 hours ago, itsnotallrightjack said:

 

Oh well I cannot comment on what you state above. Not read that statement.  

 

Time is a big subject and needs a specific question, but isn't relevant to this thread. Feel free to start a new thread on time with the question, and I'll have a look at it.

 

As long as it accords with what Scientific American Inc. has to say I suppose......

 

[cough] system minion [cough]

 

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3 hours ago, itsnotallrightjack said:

 

Oh well I cannot comment on what you state above. Not read that statement.  

 

Time is a big subject and needs a specific question, but isn't relevant to this thread. Feel free to start a new thread on time with the question, and I'll have a look at it.

 

Well at least you know now what kind of Monster that despicable shit bag is.

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23 minutes ago, bobb said:

 

Well at least you know now what kind of Monster that despicable shit bag is.

 

Time ironically means we're frozen. 

 

Time is an illusion, as we have all heard..... 

 

But in ultimate reality there is no time, there is eternity.


This means there is no separation between cause and effect and, divine justice.

 

Which is one of the frustrating things about living on Earth.

 

We have TIME. We feel so much injustice in this world and not enough righteous punishment...we hear of evil people doing evil deeds, and apparently only becoming more and more successful...

 

That is because we live in a frozen reality where evil is not immediately punished because the same time which allows evil people to temporarily run amok....also allows those people who repent or have made an honest mistake.....to find salvation in this realm where they are not immediately 'judged' and 'judged' only means subject to immediate cause and effect.......

 

So time is a double edged sword... It allows the evil to run amok..for a while, but it allows those whose hearts are good and may have been lead astray, to repent their errors and commit to goodness...... and hence, find the true light. 

 

https://www.truthspoon.com/2015/10/coincidence-acess-to-4th-dimension.html



The perception of time and the sequencing of events in time, gives us the impression that there are different moments in reality. That last year IS a different moment in reality, that 10 minutes ago was something else which has now passed and that tomorrow likewise will be a different ‘moment’ in reality. However these aren’t really different moments but part of the same ongoing continuum which we perceive sequentially and separated by time, but this separation is only a human perception. There is no reason why yesterday cannot be connected to tomorrow, not just forward in time, but also backwards in time because fundamentally there IS no time, there is only one eternal moment. That ongoing perception SIGNAL which we are all connected to.

And so we can order results which apparently were already decided and completed in the past. We can affect the past with our attention and use of will to give results required from a quantum state. Three shithead cards lying face down are a Quantum state. So long as we don’t take to counting the cards and deciding what the cards must be by process of elimination (because this would be measuring and would break down the quantum state) the cards could be conceivably anything, and as long as the card wished for isn’t held in someone else’s hand, then there is no reason why with the correct application of will/supplication then the desired card could be produced from the quantum realm simply because you’re trying to order reality and make a cause fit an effect (getting the right cards then winning the game), even if it is a cause and effect loop which is running backwards in time.

This is how reality really works, connected past to future and future to past in a pattern matrix of order. This is one of the reasons why the Freemasons do rituals, they are exploiting the 4d with will and creating a pattern of order with their ritual which they hope will help manifest real life 3d events. In fact this is how all magic really works. If you look at how cursing generally works, and unfortunately it DOES work, then generally someone would take a hair from the victim’s head, or something closely associated with them, they might even make some kind of effigy. Basically the curse requires creating an order pattern between the person doing the cursing and the victim. So to connect the two they use something to represent the person, a hair is most common because they are generally not too hard to obtain and also they will have the same quantum signature and the hair and the person are entangled on a quantum level.
 

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5 minutes ago, Truthspoon said:

 

Time ironically means we're frozen. 

 

Time is an illusion, as we have all heard..... 

 

But in ultimate reality there is no time, there is eternity.


This means there is no separation between cause and effect and, divine justice.

 

Which is one of the frustrating things about living on Earth.

 

We have TIME. We feel so much injustice in this world and not enough righteous punishment...we hear of evil people doing evil deeds, and apparently only becoming more and more successful...

 

That is because we live in a frozen reality where evil is not immediately punished because the same time which allows evil people to temporarily run amok....also allows those people who repent or have made an honest mistake.....to find salvation in this realm where they are not immediately 'judged' and 'judged' only means subject to immediate cause and effect.......

 

So time is a double edged sword... It allows the evil to run amok..for a while, bit it allows those whose hearts are good and may have been lead astray, to repent their errors and commit to goodness...... and hence, find the true light.

 

 

 

As itsnotallrightjack said, we should start a new thread, umm but I don't know how.

But I like what you have stated there.

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The problem with this forum is certain members coming here trying to stir up discontent and cause friction and arguments.

 

Yes, it is true, I do see a lot of very 'pro-religion posts' from some members here, but the vast majority do not fall foul of our forum rules, in particular regarding the promotion of or 'recruiting' people to that religion.

 

Personally I made up my own mind many years ago that organised religion was not for me, so anyone here quoting Bible texts well I just skip over those posts. If your faith is what you believe in then that's fine, as long as its your choice, just don't expect me to be persuaded by your arguments.

 

For discussion of Religion, there is a whole sub-forum here for those topics:

https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/forum/45-religion-secret-societies/

 

There is no need to start a new topic, especially in the 'General Chat' area, just to start ranting about or discussing religions.

 

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