Origin Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, m754 said: One leaves the prison by knowing the falsity of this world and knowing what reality really is..There is a reason we are trapped here until that realization... Yes. This does not mean, however, that the path chosen should be seen as positive. Becoming is relative. And for me the question is why this was necessary. One could classify this intelligence as selfish. No matter how high you go in evolution you want to prove something to yourself. And it could not convince me in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest m754 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, Origin said: And for me the question is why this was necessary. One could classify this intelligence as selfish. No matter how high you go in evolution you want to prove something to yourself. And it could not convince me in any way. There is both an esoteric and a 'scientific' answer to this why--- we are not acknowledging it. I might have mentioned it one of my earlier posts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, m754 said: There is both an esoteric and a 'scientific' answer to this why--- we are not acknowledging it. I might have mentioned it one of my earlier posts... Humans have no answers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest m754 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, Origin said: Humans have no answers. We cannot have absolute answers with our limitations...but we have clues...loads of them..all around. We just need to follow the breadcrumbs. There is something around the corner we are hesitating to meet.. If this were not so, we would not be having this conversation even.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, m754 said: We cannot have absolute answers with our limitations...but we have clues...loads of them..all around. We just need to follow the breadcrumbs. There is something around the corner we are hesitating to meet.. If this were not so, we would not be having this conversation even.. We are not even on the level to be able to bear answers. It demonstrates expanded concepts of existence and these will not please Humans. And I am sure that everyone here is stuck in this illusory paradise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 33 minutes ago, Origin said: We are not even on the level to be able to bear answers. It demonstrates expanded concepts of existence and these will not please Humans. And I am sure that everyone here is stuck in this illusory paradise. "illusory paradise." For some paradise for others like myself hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSky Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 9 hours ago, Guardian said: I just watched it. As I thought. He was deceived and doesn't even know it. As soon as he sensed low vibrational dark energy, a "being" came and showed him "the universe", and how peaceful it all is and how powerful he is....etc And then he surrendered. I don't think he mentioned dark energy. He said he started to sense the drop in vibration after he'd made the decision to incarnate here. Said it was because it was so dense here, all the connection from where he'd come from was cut off. He was in the womb as a foetus at this point. Surrender doesn't have to mean giving up, or being passive, it can mean acceptance can't it? Thanks for taking the time to watch the video. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSky Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 10 hours ago, Guardian said: Cool. Thank you bro. I will check it out. That's ok. I'm a sister btw :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, BlueSky said: That's ok. I'm a sister btw :-) Ok cool. Tx sis. xd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, BlueSky said: I don't think he mentioned dark energy. He said he started to sense the drop in vibration after he'd made the decision to incarnate here. Said it was because it was so dense here, all the connection from where he'd come from was cut off. He was in the womb as a foetus at this point. Surrender doesn't have to mean giving up, or being passive, it can mean acceptance can't it? Thanks for taking the time to watch the video. I watch it few times, sis. xd I have to. They put me in a stupid vessel. Of course, I improved it significantly. But still not that good. Let me tell you about the light, benevolent beings. We do not work at low frequencies.... we never do. That's the darkness domain. We do not use technology, we have no need for it, (he heard machinery) As unlimited eternal beings, we have no need of technology. We are far, far beyond such things. The dark ones use it to compensate for the lack of abilities. And most certainly, we do not sent people into the lower realms or low frequencies. We are light. We do not do that. Every person that had a near dead experience has echoed the same story. They are told that they are powerful and infinite, and they are very important. If they are religious, the dark ones appear as angels or god. They are told to go back cos their "work" is not finished What work? They all live a meaningless and hollow exist ace after the experience just as they did before it. And they all regret coming back. They were deceived. The guy in the video describes several times that in very low frequencies, he felt fear, uneasy, unpleasant. Likely so. Darkness is disturbing to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSky Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Guardian said: I watch it few times, sis. xd I have to. They put me in a stupid vessel. Of course, I improved it significantly. But still not that good. Let me tell you about the light, benevolent beings. We do not work at low frequencies.... we never do. That's the darkness domain. We do not use technology, we have no need for it, (he heard machinery) As unlimited eternal beings, we have no need of technology. We are far, far beyond such things. The dark ones use it to compensate for the lack of abilities. And most certainly, we do not sent people into the lower realms or low frequencies. We are light. We do not do that. Every person that had a near dead experience has echoed the same story. They are told that they are powerful and infinite, and they are very important. If they are religious, the dark ones appear as angels or god. They are told to go back cos their "work" is not finished What work? They all live a meaningless and hollow exist ace after the experience just as they did before it. And they all regret coming back. They were deceived. The guy in the video describes several times that in very low frequencies, he felt fear, uneasy, unpleasant. Likely so. Darkness is disturbing to us. Yes, I've seen those ones about guilt tripping to come back here. But I didn't get that impression from this guys account. I watched part two & his Buddha at the Gas Pump interview as well. The thing is, once these lives we're in now finish. Like you said in a previous post. We'll remember everything & act accordingly. But while here on this plane I can't see the point in cutting my nose off to spite my face. Fighting is a waste of energy imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 30 minutes ago, BlueSky said: I don't think he mentioned dark energy. He said he started to sense the drop in vibration after he'd made the decision to incarnate here. Said it was because it was so dense here, all the connection from where he'd come from was cut off. He was in the womb as a foetus at this point. Surrender doesn't have to mean giving up, or being passive, it can mean acceptance can't it? Thanks for taking the time to watch the video. Here a few examples of what he said. U can see the timestamp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BlueSky said: Yes, I've seen those ones about guilt tripping to come back here. But I didn't get that impression from this guys account. I watched part two & his Buddha at the Gas Pump interview as well. The thing is, once these lives we're in now finish. Like you said in a previous post. We'll remember everything & act accordingly. But while here on this plane I can't see the point in cutting my nose off to spite my face. Fighting is a waste of energy imo. I am looking for a way to take control of the construct, by trying to connect with the rest of my being. I got nothing left to lose. Lol I'll try anything. By the way.... There is no spoon nose. forgot "We'll remember everything & act accordingly" The thing is you won't just like the rest of them. They will block you while they make you feel good, and loving, and important. We must remember to take control and not let them get to our ego. Edited December 24, 2021 by Guardian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSky Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Ps, I liked Karmaxxxx's explanation about blowing love at them. I've heard someone's account about laughing at them as well. Although, I think I'd try Karmaxxxx idea first. Worth a try hey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, BlueSky said: Ps, I liked Karmaxxxx's explanation about blowing love at them. I've heard someone's account about laughing at them as well. Although, I think I'd try Karmaxxxx idea first. Worth a try hey! Many of our people have done that.... and look at where we are. Believe me, you cannot reason with them, I tried. In fact, I still do now and then. Because I don't want to do what I am going to do when I break free. I gave them a chance to make things right. Hasn't worked so far. I will wipe them from existence. Their entire species. We have never done that before. We are light. But I will. Even if our people will banish me. I will be an outcast. For the first time in our people's existence. Because we are light. We fundamentally believe that every living conscious thing no matter how good or evil has the right to be. The right to exist. It's in their nature. It's who they are. And they all are on their own journey.... to better themselves. We are light, we do not wipe beings from existence. First time for everything. Edited December 24, 2021 by Guardian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSky Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 19 minutes ago, Guardian said: I am looking for a way to take control of the construct, by trying to connect with the rest of my being. I got nothing left to lose. Lol I'll try anything. By the way.... There is no spoon nose. forgot "We'll remember everything & act accordingly" The thing is you won't just like the rest of them. They will block you while they make you feel good, and loving, and important. We must remember to take control and not let them get to our ego. That's the thing, it's not about control, it's the opposite, it's letting go :-o. Good Luck. I'm glad I have nose in this place to smell all the wonderful fragrances. "We must remember to take control and not let them get to our ego." Can you explain more about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, BlueSky said: That's the thing, it's not about control, it's the opposite, it's letting go :-o. Good Luck. I'm glad I have nose in this place to smell all the wonderful fragrances. "We must remember to take control and not let them get to our ego." Can you explain more about this? If you watched near-death experiences vids.... remember what people said they felt? Abundance of peace, love, harmony.... they tell you that you are the most loved the most important. "Yes, you are very powerful, we love you.......blah blah" It's like being super high. Have you ever seen a pothead? Laughing at the sky? It's like being on drugs Euphoria Unfortunately, our spices have one flow.... one they have been able to exploit. We are very naive in our natural state. Well, light is harmony peace and love..... it is Innocence 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, BlueSky said: That's the thing, it's not about control, it's the opposite, it's letting go :-o. Good Luck. I'm glad I have nose in this place to smell all the wonderful fragrances. "We must remember to take control and not let them get to our ego." Can you explain more about this? "That's the thing, it's not about control, it's the opposite, it's letting go" And that's why you have been here, trapped in countless cycles for eternity. You accepted your faith. This is my first time here, and I guarantee you this is my last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSky Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 13 minutes ago, Guardian said: "That's the thing, it's not about control, it's the opposite, it's letting go" And that's why you have been here, trapped in countless cycles for eternity. You accepted your faith. This is my first time here, and I guarantee you this is my last. What has the negative got to gain from someone at peace? I thought it fed off anger, fear etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 Just now, BlueSky said: What has the negative got to gain from someone at peace? I thought it fed off anger, fear etc. Well, you are in a prison. If you only knew who you are... Who you truly are,,, if you could only feel it for just one second.... You will fight with everything you got to be free. Well, our people are truly beautiful. You are an example. Light sees light even inside darkness itself. What I will say now... It's just a feeling, something I sense. And I am NOT sure about it. What I said so far, I am very sure. But not this. I sense that I was the guardian of light. I was supposed to protect you all. And I failed. I failed miserably That's why I am able to not be naive sort of speak. I am still light, but something else as well. I failed to protect you all. But I remember fighting with everything I got. And I lost. I got so much weight on my shoulders, sort of speak... More than you can possibly imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Guardian said: "illusory paradise." For some paradise for others like myself hell. You are not alone. It doesn't get any more devastating than this. Nothing is right here, everything is shattered. Nothing has been understood. There's not even a place for you to hide here. A layering of twisted notions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 13 minutes ago, BlueSky said: What has the negative got to gain from someone at peace? I thought it fed off anger, fear etc. Now you can understand my avatar. A guardian sitting in the front with the matrix behind him. Where all his people are imprisoned. People he supposed to protect. Now you might understand my anger a bit more. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Origin said: You are not alone. It doesn't get any more devastating than this. Nothing is right here, everything is shattered. Nothing has been understood. There's not even a place for you to hide here. A layering of twisted notions. Indeed, my friend. Illusions. I hate illusions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, BlueSky said: What has the negative got to gain from someone at peace? I thought it fed off anger, fear etc. Oops, I got your question wrong. Doing too many things at once. Sorry Well, most of your life here is NOT at peace. You feel pain, grief, suffering, loss, sadness, fear...especially Fear of death. Funerals are like a feast to them. Hate, anger, division.... Seeing us at each other's throats. Wokeness, diversity, gender..... All here to cause low vibes. The religious that pray to them, giving themselves to the dark ones.... Makes them stronger. They are literally helping the dark ones enslave their own people. Despicable. The media, academia, Hollywood......etc And now they are jabbing our people, cutting us even more from ourselves "consciousness" Besides humiliating us, tormenting and torturing us, they study us.... Experiment on us. They want to be like us. They are idiots. They are as stupid as they are evil. They are low vibes beings.... Dark, low vibrational frequencies. They want to be like us by staying like themselves. LOL Impossible. They think they will find the "secret" by experimenting on us. And use their damn technology to compensate. Their technology is their God. They will never be us. EVER. So what peace? Look at the world today.... So much pain and suffering, so much fear and despair. Snap out of La La Land. LOL Edited December 24, 2021 by Guardian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSky Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 5 hours ago, Guardian said: Well, you are in a prison. If you only knew who you are... Who you truly are,,, if you could only feel it for just one second.... You will fight with everything you got to be free. Well, our people are truly beautiful. You are an example. Light sees light even inside darkness itself. What I will say now... It's just a feeling, something I sense. And I am NOT sure about it. What I said so far, I am very sure. But not this. I sense that I was the guardian of light. I was supposed to protect you all. And I failed. I failed miserably That's why I am able to not be naive sort of speak. I am still light, but something else as well. I failed to protect you all. But I remember fighting with everything I got. And I lost. I got so much weight on my shoulders, sort of speak... More than you can possibly imagine. You're beautiful. Novymir posted this image on the "Importance of Beauty" thread. He's beautiful too. Angry words like you sometimes, but no real anger behind the words, just superficial. Bear with for the second half of your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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