Guardian Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Any women here that can help? As I said, I need a feminine perspective. Maybe is something I don't see. Since I came into this world, a feminine entity has been helping occasionally. I sense that she always helped me. Even before I came here. Anyway, She appeared in a dream last time and for the first time ever. This is weird, cos she knows I don't take dreams seriously. Too easily deceived in dreams. Or possibly it is a deception, or perhaps she couldn't communicate this any other way. IDK Anyway, It was a vivid dream. I was a kid. There were other kids in the room. She gestures with her hand to come to her. As I approach her, she points at the TV. I instantly recognise the video clip and I can hear the music. It was Return to Innocence by Enigma. And then I woke up. What is innocence, truly? No ego, arrogance, vanity, ideologies, beliefs, agendas? What does she want? Or mean by returning to innocence. For me to return to innocence? And how would I archive such a thing? Any ideas ladies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) We return to innocence by extending it to everyone and everything. There is no other way. And without that, we are bound to and by guilt and this illusion. Our innocence is guaranteed by GOD( yeah, I know, you don't like that word), it is The Truth of Everything Real. At the same time, even within illusion, the "evil" is only operating from the instructions and governing principles inherent within this illusion, so, these "evil" things are miscreations, they didn't "create" themselves, but the nature of them is "evil", it's just the way they are, it's like wolves chasing down a deer and tearing it apart to eat, they aren't really to blame, but they certainly would seem to be "evil" to the deer, but the wolves are part of the illusion( as is the "victim" deer), it is the illusion itself that is "evil" , and generates what amounts to hallucinations conforming to the nature of untruth. The body isn't The Real, and appearances are only perceptions. The mind is conjuring up a world contrary to Truth. We are ultimately responsible, though we could not have known because only Reality can be known. Everything is innocent. But only That Of The Truth is Real and Eternal. no, sorry, I'm not a woman, but I have reconnected with the Feminine aspect or principle. All is One, undivided in Truth. ps; I would suggest "she" is You, and by her message, She is Of The Real. also; feminine-masculine is One. It's a kind of separation/reduction of the One "thing" we are experiencing in this "thing"(illusion/dream), divided artificially, what it is is an expression of givereceive given a "feminie-masculine" "male-female" experience, to give IS to receive, it is one-thing in Reality, it's obvious in the sex act in this thing, at least when Love is involved. The ego has been studying these things and attempts to construct a counterfeit alternative(deception), but of course it's warped and inferior. The ego is incapable of giving or receiving Love, it is only a taker and a getter, it only "gives" to profit from that investment, to sustain "itself" or puff itself up. Edited December 19, 2021 by novymir 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickofallthebollocks Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 4 hours ago, novymir said: We return to innocence by extending it to everyone and everything. There is no other way. And without that, we are bound to and by guilt and this illusion. Our innocence is guaranteed by GOD( yeah, I know, you don't like that word), it is The Truth of Everything Real. At the same time, even within illusion, the "evil" is only operating from the instructions and governing principles inherent within this illusion, so, these "evil" things are miscreations, they didn't "create" themselves, but the nature of them is "evil", it's just the way they are, it's like wolves chasing down a deer and tearing it apart to eat, they aren't really to blame, but they certainly would seem to be "evil" to the deer, but the wolves are part of the illusion( as is the "victim" deer), it is the illusion itself that is "evil" , and generates what amounts to hallucinations conforming to the nature of untruth. The body isn't The Real, and appearances are only perceptions. The mind is conjuring up a world contrary to Truth. We are ultimately responsible, though we could not have known because only Reality can be known. Everything is innocent. But only That Of The Truth is Real and Eternal. no, sorry, I'm not a woman, but I have reconnected with the Feminine aspect or principle. All is One, undivided in Truth. ps; I would suggest "she" is You, and by her message, She is Of The Real. also; feminine-masculine is One. It's a kind of separation/reduction of the One "thing" we are experiencing in this "thing"(illusion/dream), divided artificially, what it is is an expression of givereceive given a "feminie-masculine" "male-female" experience, to give IS to receive, it is one-thing in Reality, it's obvious in the sex act in this thing, at least when Love is involved. The ego has been studying these things and attempts to construct a counterfeit alternative(deception), but of course it's warped and inferior. The ego is incapable of giving or receiving Love, it is only a taker and a getter, it only "gives" to profit from that investment, to sustain "itself" or puff itself up. no likes left, great post 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 7 hours ago, novymir said: We return to innocence by extending it to everyone and everything. There is no other way. And without that, we are bound to and by guilt and this illusion. Our innocence is guaranteed by GOD( yeah, I know, you don't like that word), it is The Truth of Everything Real. At the same time, even within illusion, the "evil" is only operating from the instructions and governing principles inherent within this illusion, so, these "evil" things are miscreations, they didn't "create" themselves, but the nature of them is "evil", it's just the way they are, it's like wolves chasing down a deer and tearing it apart to eat, they aren't really to blame, but they certainly would seem to be "evil" to the deer, but the wolves are part of the illusion( as is the "victim" deer), it is the illusion itself that is "evil" , and generates what amounts to hallucinations conforming to the nature of untruth. The body isn't The Real, and appearances are only perceptions. The mind is conjuring up a world contrary to Truth. We are ultimately responsible, though we could not have known because only Reality can be known. Everything is innocent. But only That Of The Truth is Real and Eternal. no, sorry, I'm not a woman, but I have reconnected with the Feminine aspect or principle. All is One, undivided in Truth. ps; I would suggest "she" is You, and by her message, She is Of The Real. also; feminine-masculine is One. It's a kind of separation/reduction of the One "thing" we are experiencing in this "thing"(illusion/dream), divided artificially, what it is is an expression of givereceive given a "feminie-masculine" "male-female" experience, to give IS to receive, it is one-thing in Reality, it's obvious in the sex act in this thing, at least when Love is involved. The ego has been studying these things and attempts to construct a counterfeit alternative(deception), but of course it's warped and inferior. The ego is incapable of giving or receiving Love, it is only a taker and a getter, it only "gives" to profit from that investment, to sustain "itself" or puff itself up. You always inset yourself in every post and echo shit from many other people at the same time. That's why you get an incoherent post such as this. You have no clue what you are talking about. We have already proven that. All you do is deviate from the topic with nonsense. I asked from a feminine perspective, NOT yours. But your ego has to show us how much you don't know. Seriously dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSky Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 I used to be on another forum. There was a young lad described a similar experience. I think he described it as a dream but unlike any other. His mother had died when he was young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, Guardian said: You always inset yourself in every post and echo shit from many other people at the same time. That's why you get an incoherent post such as this. You have no clue what you are talking about. We have already proven that. All you do is deviate from the topic with nonsense. I asked from a feminine perspective, NOT yours. But your ego has to show us how much you don't know. Seriously dude. Oh, soooo sorry, well, excuse the fuck out of me..!..sorry you didn't get the answer that fits your own limited and pathetic system of belief! (that is being passed off as so "original" ,honest, and "advanced".?!.................don't make me laugh!). You're one of "them". A (controlled)damage-control agent. Your presence and responses serve to prove the effectiveness of The Truth reaching others through me. You help me, because if I wasn't being effective there would be no reason for an agent to show up. It's not me that is The Source of Truth(I Am a part of IT, IT IS GREATER), but I can and do access IT, IT'S purpose through me is to get as many people as possible to do the same, for themselves. I already know your predictable response to me saying these things....but I'm not saying them for your benefit... The Truth is unstoppable. Of course, you're going on ignore. Bye now. Edited December 20, 2021 by novymir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, novymir said: Oh, soooo sorry, well, excuse the fuck out of me..!..sorry you didn't get the answer that fits your own limited and pathetic system of belief! (that is being passed off as so "original" ,honest, and "advanced".?!.................don't make me laugh!). You're one of "them". A (controlled)damage-control agent. Your presence and responses serve to prove the effectiveness of The Truth reaching others through me. You help me, because if I wasn't being effective there would be no reason for an agent to show up. It's not me that is The Source of Truth(I Am a part of IT, IT IS GREATER), but I can and do access IT, IT'S purpose through me is to get as many people as possible to do the same, for themselves. I already know your predictable response to me saying these things....but I'm not saying them for your benefit... The Truth is unstoppable. Of course, you're going on ignore. Bye now. Edited December 20, 2021 by Guardian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 hours ago, novymir said: Oh, soooo sorry, well, excuse the fuck out of me..!..sorry you didn't get the answer that fits your own limited and pathetic system of belief! (that is being passed off as so "original" ,honest, and "advanced".?!.................don't make me laugh!). You're one of "them". A (controlled)damage-control agent. Your presence and responses serve to prove the effectiveness of The Truth reaching others through me. You help me, because if I wasn't being effective there would be no reason for an agent to show up. It's not me that is The Source of Truth(I Am a part of IT, IT IS GREATER), but I can and do access IT, IT'S purpose through me is to get as many people as possible to do the same, for themselves. I already know your predictable response to me saying these things....but I'm not saying them for your benefit... The Truth is unstoppable. Of course, you're going on ignore. Bye now. Here we go again, bro. You try so hard to come across intelligent and philosophical that you come across incoherent. Every post/comment you make, you repeat several times "the truth" "The Truth reaching others through me." "it's not me that is The Source of Truth" "The Truth is unstoppable." You have no way of knowing what the truth is. You just repeat shit you heard/read other people say. If I ask you how you came to that conclusion, you won't be able to tell me. You never do. Just like last time when I asked you. You said "I typed enough" Here we go again. How come you are so sure it is "The Truth"? How did you come to that conclusion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 On 12/19/2021 at 12:33 PM, Guardian said: What does she want? Or mean by returning to innocence. I'm not a woman but i think its a mistake to assume that men can't make anything of your dream just because the character in it is female I think with dreams it is generally a mistake to view the figure literally as representing the person that they appear as. Often they are representing an aspect of your psyche For you as a man the aspect of your psyche you will need to integrate is the feminine 'anima' aspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 21, 2021 Author Share Posted December 21, 2021 On 12/20/2021 at 7:02 PM, BlueSky said: I used to be on another forum. There was a young lad described a similar experience. I think he described it as a dream but unlike any other. His mother had died when he was young. On 12/20/2021 at 7:02 PM, BlueSky said: I used to be on another forum. There was a young lad described a similar experience. I think he described it as a dream but unlike any other. His mother had died when he was young. Cool. Thank you. Can't add any more reaction, apparently. Didn't know there is a limit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 21, 2021 Author Share Posted December 21, 2021 27 minutes ago, Macnamara said: I'm not a woman but i think its a mistake to assume that men can't make anything of your dream just because the character in it is female I think with dreams it is generally a mistake to view the figure literally as representing the person that they appear as. Often they are representing an aspect of your psyche For you as a man the aspect of your psyche you will need to integrate is the feminine 'anima' aspect. I didn't assume anything. I am looking for all perspectives.... I want to cover every angle... so I can see the full picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Guardian said: I am looking for all perspectives.... I want to cover every angle... so I can see the full picture. consider that a female figure in your dream might represent your anima beckoning you to begin the path to individuation Edited December 21, 2021 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 22, 2021 Author Share Posted December 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, Macnamara said: consider that a female figure in your dream might represent your anima beckoning you to begin the path to individuation It wasn't a dream per se. It was a message from the same female entity that has helped me before... outside dreams, "real life" This is the first time she came in a dream. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmaxxxx Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 On 12/19/2021 at 12:33 PM, Guardian said: Any women here that can help? As I said, I need a feminine perspective. Maybe is something I don't see. Since I came into this world, a feminine entity has been helping occasionally. I sense that she always helped me. Even before I came here. Anyway, She appeared in a dream last time and for the first time ever. This is weird, cos she knows I don't take dreams seriously. Too easily deceived in dreams. Or possibly it is a deception, or perhaps she couldn't communicate this any other way. IDK Anyway, It was a vivid dream. I was a kid. There were other kids in the room. She gestures with her hand to come to her. As I approach her, she points at the TV. I instantly recognise the video clip and I can hear the music. It was Return to Innocence by Enigma. And then I woke up. What is innocence, truly? No ego, arrogance, vanity, ideologies, beliefs, agendas? What does she want? Or mean by returning to innocence. For me to return to innocence? And how would I archive such a thing? Any ideas ladies? innocence be as a child. imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 22, 2021 Author Share Posted December 22, 2021 26 minutes ago, karmaxxxx said: innocence be as a child. imo What an over simplification. She wants me to be a child? Lol How do you achieve such a thing? And why? That's not it, my friend. But thanks for the input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 On 12/19/2021 at 1:33 PM, Guardian said: What is innocence, truly? No ego, arrogance, vanity, ideologies, beliefs, agendas? What does she want? Or mean by returning to innocence. For me to return to innocence? And how would I archive such a thing? Any ideas ladies? It means that you are supposed to leave it behind. Also the interpretation that something else is present here than the source. Sometimes it manifests itself through patterns that are reflected in your consciousness. You know that it has very remarkable abilities when it wants to express itself. And you know that everyone else is where they placed themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 On 12/19/2021 at 4:33 PM, Guardian said: Any women here that can help? As I said, I need a feminine perspective. Maybe is something I don't see. Since I came into this world, a feminine entity has been helping occasionally. What is innocence, truly? No ego, arrogance, vanity, ideologies, beliefs, agendas? What does she want? Or mean by returning to innocence. For me to return to innocence? And how would I archive such a thing? Any ideas ladies? I would guess you're looking for a girlfriend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 22, 2021 Author Share Posted December 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: I would guess you're looking for a girlfriend. Wow, how quick you turned nasty. What happened my friend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 22, 2021 Author Share Posted December 22, 2021 34 minutes ago, Origin said: It means that you are supposed to leave it behind. Also the interpretation that something else is present here than the source. Sometimes it manifests itself through patterns that are reflected in your consciousness. You know that it has very remarkable abilities when it wants to express itself. And you know that everyone else is where they placed themselves. This was a message, my friend. First time ever that she communicated to me in a dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, Guardian said: Wow, how quick you turned nasty. What happened my friend? You started a thread specifically attacking people like me, who believe in God and a divine principle. I don't like to see people trying to sow discord in the forum and creating a 'them and us' type atmosphere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 22, 2021 Author Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Truthspoon said: You started a thread specifically attacking people like me, who believe in God and a divine principle. I don't like to see people trying to sow discord in the forum and creating a 'them and us' type atmosphere. No I didn't. Talking about the spammers and trolls. Take this guy novymir On every thread on mine he came and god this and god that. I told him to stop inserting himself on every topic, with god the answer to everything. 30 minutes later, I start this thread asking for a feminine prospective.... and guess what? Here he comes again. Again, God is the answer. I asked for a female prospective... not a god one. I fukn had enough. And now you feel attacked. Almost like it's a cult or something. Oh, wait... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 20 minutes ago, Guardian said: This was a message, my friend. First time ever that she communicated to me in a dream. She is more than a she. I think it can manifest everything, even highly complex constructs that are multi-layered. And they can always reassemble, but I know that it likes to show what we want to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 22, 2021 Author Share Posted December 22, 2021 Just now, Origin said: She is more than a she. I think it can manifest everything, even highly complex constructs that are multi-layered. And they can always reassemble, but I know that it likes to show what we want to see. Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, Guardian said: No I didn't. Talking about the spammers and trolls. Take this guy novymir On every thread on mine he came and god this and god that. I told him to stop inserting himself on every topic, with god the answer to everything. 30 minutes later, I start this thread asking for a feminine prospective.... and guess what? Here he comes again. Again, God is the answer. I asked for a female prospective... not a god one. I fukn had enough. And now you feel attacked. Almost like it's a cult or something. Oh, wait... You were rude as fuck to him too...... and now you start a thread berating him...... What next.... are you going to find his address and dump him in the local reservoir.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted December 22, 2021 Author Share Posted December 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Truthspoon said: You were rude as fuck to him too...... and now you start a thread berating him...... What next.... are you going to find his address and dump him in the local reservoir.... I am not here to hold your hand and tend to your feelings I am NOT your mommy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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