Why do most people that listen to David cherry-pick what he says?🤔

[Guardian]

9 minutes ago, Origin said:

Human - Why are you here? To experience..

 

You cannot find it in books, in words, in interpretations that are based on illusions. In repetitions of word patterns that others have put together.

You can't experience anything in a collective. Because everyone creates their own experience. You made a significant mistake in placing it in a template.

But human knowledge consists of a countless number of errors. You feel threatened when someone else questions it. What would it mean if someone else could understand more than I do? Because of my inability, I will harm others because of it. With words.

 

Then I retreat again into my little world of misconceptions. Tell myself that I was right and my truth is the right one. And I think that I am awakened. But the truth is that you have not understood anything that cannot be squeezed into a human concept. You are still blind and you are not one step closer to the source of reality.

 

The human clown world projects illusions of what is promoted as the great awakening. But that great unknown has not changed the all-encompassing pattern of representation of reality. And it has never done it.

 

 

Weird way of putting it. But I do agree.

 

I especially agree with:

 

"You cannot find it in books, in words, in interpretations that are based on illusions. In repetitions of word patterns that others have put together.

You can't experience anything in a collective"

 

"You are still blind and you are not one step closer to the source of reality."

 

99.9% of people do this mistake over and over again. And never learn from it.

 

[Sheepy]

No worries because they are coming for Mr Icke, as the slow drip has started with MSM stories of people killing their children because they believed in Lizard people and people committing suicide for being fans of David Icke and listening to other people here. Method in madness as they say. 

[peter]

On 12/21/2021 at 5:30 PM, Guardian said:

You cannot find it in books, in words, in interpretations that are based on illusions. In repetitions of word patterns that others have put together.

You can't experience anything in a collective"

Exactly, you can't find it in books however I'm an avid reader of what you may term alternative  points of view .

I believe that has been brought about due to my nature in part (I don't believe anything that people tell me till I looked into it myself) but mostly I think I'm a product of circumstance,I would say that my life has been anything but normal, and there lies the social conditioning or lack there of. Put it this way I have seen and experienced so much strange shit over the years if you didn't start to question societies norms of reality you would have to be brain dead

[Guardian]

1 hour ago, peter said:

Exactly, you can't find it in books however I'm an avid reader of what you may term alternative  points of view .

I believe that has been brought about due to my nature in part (I don't believe anything that people tell me till I looked into it myself) but mostly I think I'm a product of circumstance,I would say that my life has been anything but normal, and there lies the social conditioning or lack there of. Put it this way I have seen and experienced so much strange shit over the years if you didn't start to question societies norms of reality you would have to be brain dead

 

Indeed.

Would you share some of this strange shit you have experience? 

Please do. I am looking for answers. And every one of us has a little bit.

[peter]

They were in the old forum and in this one under paranormal experiences

[spideysensei]

On 12/19/2021 at 9:22 AM, Guardian said:

Your mind is not ready? Afraid of what others think? What is it?

 

Tangibility/evidence. There are reams of evidence for the human hierarchy of the nwo, but not much as far as i can gather for dark entities. The last 3 or so chapters in David's latest book are quite theoretical. When "real" world shit is happening, people want real world instigators, not theoretical entities. Yes this world is probably not very real in the grand scheme, but in this lifetime, it's what we have to work with.

[MarkBirtley]

People don't believe in their existence because they have the impression that it's fiction and goes against science when it in fact doesn't. Those are  creatures operating  on an electromagnetic level but are able to tune their frequencies, which doesn't go against science at all, even though our "science" is not the absolute truth and it's full of unknowns/mistakes (which history has proven time and again). Somehow people think that now we are so technologically advanced, so it's laughable to even think that those beings exist. IMO that stems from arrogance. Anyone with enough humility would  come to the conclusion that  those beings are a real thing. There's enough content on the internet to prove it, in case a person never witnessed it irl. 

Edited January 11, 2022 by MarkBirtley

[spideysensei]

21 hours ago, MarkBirtley said:

There's enough content on the internet to prove it, in case a person never witnessed it irl. 

 

Can you link some?

[MarkBirtley]

1 hour ago, spideysensei said:

 

Can you link some?

 

Check Abderraouf Ben Halima on Youtube: they get imprisoned in a catcher's body (a catcher is someone who was recently possessed and thus has some kind of temporary opening that allows the catcher to capture those beings, I'm not sure but I think they're called channelers on these forums), he then interrogates them about certain conspiracies of the elite and of magicians that use the aid of those creatures.

Edited January 12, 2022 by MarkBirtley

[Apotheosis]

On 1/8/2022 at 11:58 PM, spideysensei said:

 

Tangibility/evidence. There are reams of evidence for the human hierarchy of the nwo, but not much as far as i can gather for dark entities. The last 3 or so chapters in David's latest book are quite theoretical. When "real" world shit is happening, people want real world instigators, not theoretical entities. Yes this world is probably not very real in the grand scheme, but in this lifetime, it's what we have to work with.

 

 

If you sit on your ass and never develop your consciousness to the required levels, which is true of 99.999% of people.

[spideysensei]

20 hours ago, MarkBirtley said:

 

Check Abderraouf Ben Halima on Youtube: they get imprisoned in a catcher's body (a catcher is someone who was recently possessed and thus has some kind of temporary opening that allows the catcher to capture those beings, I'm not sure but I think they're called channelers on these forums), he then interrogates them about certain conspiracies of the elite and of magicians that use the aid of those creatures.

 

The vids are all 50 min + in a language i don't understand. How does this prove it? You said it doesn't go against science, how so?

 

13 minutes ago, Apotheosis said:

If you sit on your ass and never develop your consciousness to the required levels, which is true of 99.999% of people.

 

You could work all your life and still not get there. If the knowledge is this rarefied it's out of our hands anyway. We may as well focus our efforts on the human actors.

[MarkBirtley]

28 minutes ago, spideysensei said:

 

The vids are all 50 min + in a language i don't understand. How does this prove it? You said it doesn't go against science, how so?

 

He sometimes uploads videos where speaks English only, but most of his videos have subtitles in many languages, including English

30 minutes ago, spideysensei said:

 

You could work all your life and still not get there. If the knowledge is this rarefied it's out of our hands anyway. We may as well focus our efforts on the human actors.

I second that.

[Apotheosis]

46 minutes ago, spideysensei said:

You could work all your life and still not get there.

 

No, you couldn't.

 

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If the knowledge is this rarefied it's out of our hands anyway.

 

It's fiction, it's forbidden, it's dangerous, or it's impossible except to a small elite. This story, which is a lie, has been told from the beginning. 

 

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We may as well focus our efforts on the human actors.

 

How's that been working out for humans?

 

When you speak like this, when you express such thoughts you are here, you are unwittingly acting as a conduit for them. These thoughts are not human, in the true sense. They don't originate with the atman. They just pop into the "head" and find verbal expression, and if any judgment occurs between the two, it's judgment according false criteria and patterns of thought which have also been implanted in our samsaric complex. This is a given, since having found ones true self, discovered ones free will, and gained control over the content of ones mind so as to have ones own thoughts, one would invariably also have encountered and unmasked these "dark powers".

 

Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself.

 

If and when you find the truth, you will know it. But how you will know it, that can't be expressed in language to those who don't already have gnosis.

 

 

 

[Origin]

On 1/13/2022 at 12:38 AM, Apotheosis said:

 

Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself.

 

If and when you find the truth, you will know it. But how you will know it, that can't be expressed in language to those who don't already have gnosis.

 

 

 

It could be expressed. It can only be compiled with an extreme bandwidth of all perceptible anomalies. The requirement is to know them all. Where and when they emerged. The anomalous patterns have been assigned in the most impossible places. Also where it has passed on notions to certain humans. And even then, something has to agree. The more a human being can understand, the less he or she will be able to interfere. No one follows the same path. For this reason, the entire accumulated knowledge can be regarded to a very large extent as a worthless interpretation. Nothing should ever be prematurely interpreted as certain knowledge. In the end, there will be very little left.

[Apotheosis]

7 hours ago, Origin said:

It could be expressed.

 

 

Again, language cannot convey meaning where there is no underlying experience . Do you think a blind person who has never seen can have any idea of what a word like "red" is intended to communicate? No, he cannot, and no possible language can convey it to him. 

[Origin]

8 hours ago, Apotheosis said:

 

 

Again, language cannot convey meaning where there is no underlying experience . Do you think a blind person who has never seen can have any idea of what a word like "red" is intended to communicate? No, he cannot, and no possible language can convey it to him. 

It has the potential to convey something to every level of existence. I have detected an extraordinary variety of possibilities. And I am sure that it can also teach deaf blind people something to get ahead. Everything is predefined. It doesn't matter if they are wild nature tribes or within the fictional 21st century. This also concerns some who are already further along than the currently known possibilities. 

 

You rather mean that no one can pass on their level of experience to others. There is an all-encompassing version of how it is expressed. If it were not so I would not be implying this. But this means an impossible paradox. But..I'm sure that the most challenging thing was to pass on very simplified versions to drive the development forward. These people also exist. And no, I am not one of those.

 

Something is able to do exactly that and we as so-called humans seem to have certain possibilities to be able to understand exactly that. It's just that humans can't fathom this magnitude. No one is forced to rise above their own limits here. It could not force me to do anything either....

[spideysensei]

On 1/12/2022 at 11:38 PM, Apotheosis said:

This is a given, since having found ones true self, discovered ones free will, and gained control over the content of ones mind so as to have ones own thoughts, one would invariably also have encountered and unmasked these "dark powers".

 

So have you found your 'true self' and gained 'free will'? Otherwise, on what basis do you believe it?

[BlueSky]

1 hour ago, spideysensei said:

 

So have you found your 'true self' and gained 'free will'? Otherwise, on what basis do you believe it?

Whatever they think they've found has made them angry & miserable. 

[novymir]

2 hours ago, BlueSky said:

Whatever they think they've found has made them angry & miserable. 

So, are you afraid of those feelings? Are they "inappropriate", "worthless", and invalid? Something to avoid or run away from? Do you assume this is the state or condition of them all the time? Is "negativity" "bad", all the time, what about most of the time, or half of the time? How does Truth operate, what is It's purpose, in the context of this "experience"?

 

Why do you think they push all those psych-drugs(anti-anxiety/anti-depressants, etc) so much? Why do you think so many get addicted to both legal and illegal drugs/alchohol?

Do you believe one must be in a "good-mood" regarding this "experience"(so-called life and world) all the time to "raise their vibration" and "ascend"? Or else?

 

Do you believe this "world"  is Divine Creation?

 

What is disillusionment?

 

Is D.I. in error? What does he mean by "non-human" force? What does he mean by "counterfeit world, simulation"?

 

 

 

 

 

[BlueSky]

2 hours ago, novymir said:

So, are you afraid of those feelings? Are they "inappropriate", "worthless", and invalid? Something to avoid or run away from? Do you assume this is the state or condition of them all the time? Is "negativity" "bad", all the time, what about most of the time, or half of the time? How does Truth operate, what is It's purpose, in the context of this "experience"?

 

Why do you think they push all those psych-drugs(anti-anxiety/anti-depressants, etc) so much? Why do you think so many get addicted to both legal and illegal drugs/alchohol?

Do you believe one must be in a "good-mood" regarding this "experience"(so-called life and world) all the time to "raise their vibration" and "ascend"? Or else?

 

Do you believe this "world"  is Divine Creation?

 

What is disillusionment?

 

Is D.I. in error? What does he mean by "non-human" force? What does he mean by "counterfeit world, simulation"?

 

 

 

 

 

"So, are you afraid of those feelings? Are they "inappropriate", "worthless", and invalid? Something to avoid or run away from?"

Only when those feelings turn into actions that hurt myself or others, then it's natural to be afraid. 

 

"Do you assume this is the state or condition of them all the time?"  

Probably not. Maybe they use the forum to purge. 

 

"How does Truth operate, what is It's purpose, in the context of this "experience"?" 

 If you're referring to God or Source when you write Truth  Then anger & misery are the ego not the Truth.

 

"Why do you think they push all those psych-drugs(anti-anxiety/anti-depressants, etc) so much?"

To make money from our misery. 

 

"Do you believe one must be in a "good-mood" regarding this "experience"(so-called life and world) all the time to "raise their vibration" and "ascend"? Or else?"

Wisdom is gained through adversity that's true. Then to recognising the ego for what it is. Until that's mastered this plane will be the school. My conclusion so far. 

 

"Do you believe this "world"  is Divine Creation?" 

I think the one thing created it all. This simulation included. 

 

"What is disillusionment?"

I think that's been covered in the above

 

 

[thethinkingrebel]

I've been studying this stuff on and off for about 15 years. I first read the Biggest Secret in the year 2000 - at the time I was enjoying the topics in the book about UFOs. More recently (perhaps the last 5 years), I've ventured into he study of the archons, and the gnostic texts, and also reading the works of Crowley. It's all much more cemented for me that there is indeed an extra dimensional element to the whole 'conspiracy', and that extra dimensional element explains ghosts, ufos, EVP, cryptozoology, the Mandela effect, alien abduction, OOBE, timeslips, and of course - the reptilians.

Whether or not they actually are reptilians isn't cemented - after all they have the ability to shape shift, and not only that they're a 4th dimensional expression into he three dimensional, just as if we were to venture into the 2 dimensional we would look like circles and lines to the inhabitants - they are wearing human bodysuits, and hybridised humans so they can inhabit them. The true nature of these beings is truly unknown. 

I have seen the greys personally, so I know from experience that something is 'out there' - after that experience in 2011 and my years of processing it - nothing would surprise me now.

[Origin]

20 hours ago, thethinkingrebel said:

I have seen the greys personally, so I know from experience that something is 'out there' - after that experience in 2011 and my years of processing it - nothing would surprise me now.

You saw an outline similar to the many variants drawn by humans. That was visually stored in you. And that is exactly what you have set for yourself. You have done the same what you understand as objects. Your brain has also projected the classic shapes of so-called UFOs onto what you see. In case you saw it outside, dreams don't mean anything. That happens to anyone who will notice it a few times in their lives. But when you have seen it many times, you will notice something extraordinary. That what you see will change dramatically and everything will become clearer.

[spideysensei]

It's all possible, i have no special insight into the nature of reality, but i think this maxim is apt here - extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

A lot of the shape shifty videos i've seen i'm not impressed by. There's maybe one or two incidents that really seemed quite weird and not immediately explainable, but the rest are usually poor quality with obvious compression artifacts. If there were so many who apparently shapeshift into reptilians, why are we not seeing it more often with higher definition cameras? (Or are we? I don't know, perhaps there is evidence out there).

[Origin]

Not a single Experiencer has ever succeeded in making a clear recording. Nothing exists that is capable of recording even one image clearly. What can be seen has nothing to do with our perceptible reality. None of this will a human ever be able to touch with his hands..

[Joyfuleye]

On 12/19/2021 at 4:48 PM, novymir said:

I just call it as I see it...whatever.

 

The ego always perceives The Truth as an attack and a threat to itself...that's why it tries so hard to snuff it out...an effort in futility though. The Truth cannot be killed.

 

Sore loser. The games already over, diehards.

Hahahaha!

 

Where is the source of this painting of Jesus? It’s a very nice picture.