Just Another Simulation Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 I have been a follower of David Icke for many, many years. He often speaks of how we're all living under a spell, an enchantment. Who cast that spell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pierre-Luc Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 5 hours ago, Seeker said: Satan He have been given many names. But it is under this name that i first heard of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bobb Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Has anybody heard of Kimberly Ann Goguen, I have watched a fair few video's related to Her, and she has been interviewed by Kerry Cassidy of Project Camelot, and I have to say she has a vast amount of knowledge that anyone familiar with the UFO phenomena would immediately recognise, there are sites out their denouncing Her as a fraud, myself though I am not so sure simply based on what she says, seems to have truth within it, and relates to this topic very well, could this be another attempt at derailing the minds of people, or is it an announcement of sorts that the Magicians have been busted and no longer allowed to practice their word magic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, Pierre-Luc said: He have been given many names. But it is under this name that i first heard of it. Some kind of 4 dimensional being ...... Can't say I've personally seen Reptilians..... I call them demons because that's what they've been called for a long time. Icke has started calling it 'Wendigo' which is all very well....but it still doesn't explain any context.... But yeah....some fucked up evil demon mofos are out there....... Some say they were are the spirits of the first men to live on Earth. This is possible too.... This was one of the definitions of the Nephilim according to Swedenborg (from my new book): Swedenborg comments on this phenomenon: “I perceived that no disasters or fortuitous evils, as they are called, can happen to a man with whom the Lord is: for when by the agency of evil spirits who were present, a restive horse threatened injury [to his rider], those spirits were suddenly cast down. They that were with me observed, that from such things it might be perceived what kind of spirits they are who bring misfortunes with them, which was afterwards confirmed.” These ‘spirits’ as well as being the spirits of the dead he also describes the activities of the Nephilim, which he describes as spiritual beings in hell and the original inhabitants of Canaan and the Garden of Eden who became corrupted and lost their love of God for the following of their own pleasures and using their will to dominate others. The etymology of the word Nephilim Swedenborg gives as relating to the Hebrew word Naphal: to fall, so it either means ‘fallen ones’ or ‘those who fall on others’. According to Swedenborg, not all the Nephilim perished in the great flood and some went on to father what he describes as, “the seven profane tribes which are known as the Avim, the Anakim, the Horim, the Emim, the Zuzim, the Zamzummim, and the Rephaim.” As for the presence of these tribes in the present day, I would say it is clear that they exist in some form and their descendants literally walk among us, but the last traces scholars have made of them are as follows: Avim: David Rohl suggests Ahhotep II who drove the Greater Hyksos Caphtorim out of Egypt, was an important descendant of this earlier Palestinian group and became the inspiration behind the legend of Io. Anak, the Anak were described as very tall and may be one of the origins of the Nephilim being described as ‘giants’. The word Anak is also the Hebrew word for giant. Robert Graves identifies the Anakim with Anax, the giant ruler of the Anactorians in Greek mythology. They inhabited the area later known as Edom and Moab. Horim: later became a Bronze Age people known as the Hurrians who settled extensively throughout Iraq, Syria and Anatolia (modern day Turkey) the present-day people of Armenia are the only national remnant of this people and they are intermixed with the Uratians. The term ‘Horim’ means ‘free-people’. Emim: Their name means ‘dreaded ones’ and the root is from the Hebrew word ‘Eyma’ which means ‘terror’. “The Emims dwelt therein in times past, a people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakim” (Deuteronomy 2:10). Zazu: According to the Hebrew Bible, the Zuzim or Zuzites (meaning "restless" or "roaming") were a tribe who lived in Ham, a land east of the Jordan River between Bashan and Moab. The Zuzim were conquered by the Elamite King Chedorlaomer (Genesis 14:5). Many scholars identify the Zuzim with the Zamzummim, a tribe of the Rephaim living in the same region as the Zuzim and later occupied by the Ammonites. In Hebrew "Zuz" represents the root "z'z" which means, "to move" and is likely associated with the Ancient Egyptian "s's" meaning, "to move on foot" as in the "ssw" or Shasu. The Shasu and Zuzim may be one and the same if one considers their close proximity to the Horites "Kharu" and Hebrews "Habiru" as they are described in Egyptian lists. Egyptologist and archaeologist, Donald B. Redford has argued that the earliest Israelites, semi-nomadic highlanders in central Palestine mentioned on the Merneptah Stele at the end of the 13th century BC with reference made to Yahweh as: “Yahu in the land of the Šosū-nomad” are to be identified as a Shasu enclave. Since later Biblical tradition portrays Yahweh "coming forth from Seʿir", the Shasu, originally from Moab and northern Edom/Seʿir, went on to form one major element in the amalgam that would constitute the "Israel" which later established the Kingdom of Israel. Rephaim: Again, these were a taller than average sized people. They are considered the ‘residents of the underworld’ wandering earthbound spirits, in other world, these could be the beings largely identified as Gods, demons and Djins. The Phoenicians considered the Rephaim ‘the divine ones’ and it is possible that many of the Gods of the ancient world are derived from the activity of the Rephaim. The etymology of the term ‘Rephaim’ has never been satisfactorily deduced. Og of Bashan was one of the Rephaim whom Moses slayed and his capital was called Ashtaroth, also known as Ashtartu, Ashtara and means "Astarte of the Horns”, Astarte being the name of a Canaanite Goddess. Ashtaroth is the name of a demon in Jewish demonology. Swedenborg believed that mankind used to be able to openly communicate with spirits but lost this faculty in the time of Noah. If this is true then it may offer some explanation to many of the events of the Old Testament as perhaps still a few of the prophets still had this ability, such as Moses hearing the voice of God and even catching a glimpse of his form or Samuel hearing God’s commandment to “blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven” or Joshua’s army following his orders from ‘God’: “They completely destroyed with the sword every living thing in the city -- men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, and donkeys.” Edited December 19, 2021 by Truthspoon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre-Luc Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 11 hours ago, Truthspoon said: Some kind of 4 dimensional being ...... Can't say I've personally seen Reptilians..... I call them demons because that's what they've been called for a long time. Icke has started calling it 'Wendigo' which is all very well....but it still doesn't explain any context.... But yeah....some fucked up evil demon mofos are out there....... Some say they were are the spirits of the first men to live on Earth. This is possible too.... This was one of the definitions of the Nephilim according to Swedenborg (from my new book): Swedenborg comments on this phenomenon: “I perceived that no disasters or fortuitous evils, as they are called, can happen to a man with whom the Lord is: for when by the agency of evil spirits who were present, a restive horse threatened injury [to his rider], those spirits were suddenly cast down. They that were with me observed, that from such things it might be perceived what kind of spirits they are who bring misfortunes with them, which was afterwards confirmed.” These ‘spirits’ as well as being the spirits of the dead he also describes the activities of the Nephilim, which he describes as spiritual beings in hell and the original inhabitants of Canaan and the Garden of Eden who became corrupted and lost their love of God for the following of their own pleasures and using their will to dominate others. The etymology of the word Nephilim Swedenborg gives as relating to the Hebrew word Naphal: to fall, so it either means ‘fallen ones’ or ‘those who fall on others’. According to Swedenborg, not all the Nephilim perished in the great flood and some went on to father what he describes as, “the seven profane tribes which are known as the Avim, the Anakim, the Horim, the Emim, the Zuzim, the Zamzummim, and the Rephaim.” As for the presence of these tribes in the present day, I would say it is clear that they exist in some form and their descendants literally walk among us, but the last traces scholars have made of them are as follows: Avim: David Rohl suggests Ahhotep II who drove the Greater Hyksos Caphtorim out of Egypt, was an important descendant of this earlier Palestinian group and became the inspiration behind the legend of Io. Anak, the Anak were described as very tall and may be one of the origins of the Nephilim being described as ‘giants’. The word Anak is also the Hebrew word for giant. Robert Graves identifies the Anakim with Anax, the giant ruler of the Anactorians in Greek mythology. They inhabited the area later known as Edom and Moab. Horim: later became a Bronze Age people known as the Hurrians who settled extensively throughout Iraq, Syria and Anatolia (modern day Turkey) the present-day people of Armenia are the only national remnant of this people and they are intermixed with the Uratians. The term ‘Horim’ means ‘free-people’. Emim: Their name means ‘dreaded ones’ and the root is from the Hebrew word ‘Eyma’ which means ‘terror’. “The Emims dwelt therein in times past, a people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakim” (Deuteronomy 2:10). Zazu: According to the Hebrew Bible, the Zuzim or Zuzites (meaning "restless" or "roaming") were a tribe who lived in Ham, a land east of the Jordan River between Bashan and Moab. The Zuzim were conquered by the Elamite King Chedorlaomer (Genesis 14:5). Many scholars identify the Zuzim with the Zamzummim, a tribe of the Rephaim living in the same region as the Zuzim and later occupied by the Ammonites. In Hebrew "Zuz" represents the root "z'z" which means, "to move" and is likely associated with the Ancient Egyptian "s's" meaning, "to move on foot" as in the "ssw" or Shasu. The Shasu and Zuzim may be one and the same if one considers their close proximity to the Horites "Kharu" and Hebrews "Habiru" as they are described in Egyptian lists. Egyptologist and archaeologist, Donald B. Redford has argued that the earliest Israelites, semi-nomadic highlanders in central Palestine mentioned on the Merneptah Stele at the end of the 13th century BC with reference made to Yahweh as: “Yahu in the land of the Šosū-nomad” are to be identified as a Shasu enclave. Since later Biblical tradition portrays Yahweh "coming forth from Seʿir", the Shasu, originally from Moab and northern Edom/Seʿir, went on to form one major element in the amalgam that would constitute the "Israel" which later established the Kingdom of Israel. Rephaim: Again, these were a taller than average sized people. They are considered the ‘residents of the underworld’ wandering earthbound spirits, in other world, these could be the beings largely identified as Gods, demons and Djins. The Phoenicians considered the Rephaim ‘the divine ones’ and it is possible that many of the Gods of the ancient world are derived from the activity of the Rephaim. The etymology of the term ‘Rephaim’ has never been satisfactorily deduced. Og of Bashan was one of the Rephaim whom Moses slayed and his capital was called Ashtaroth, also known as Ashtartu, Ashtara and means "Astarte of the Horns”, Astarte being the name of a Canaanite Goddess. Ashtaroth is the name of a demon in Jewish demonology. Swedenborg believed that mankind used to be able to openly communicate with spirits but lost this faculty in the time of Noah. If this is true then it may offer some explanation to many of the events of the Old Testament as perhaps still a few of the prophets still had this ability, such as Moses hearing the voice of God and even catching a glimpse of his form or Samuel hearing God’s commandment to “blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven” or Joshua’s army following his orders from ‘God’: “They completely destroyed with the sword every living thing in the city -- men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, and donkeys.” it sound like the book of Enoch. I watched a Man telling his NDE. They all have very similar things in common. A tought come in to my mind 10+ years ago and i still believe it. We kind became amnesic of our true nature. Our vessel have been hijacked in many ways. If i look at it from the wittiko point of thinking, and that i add my believes to it. It was a part of the cousciousness that flipped upside down on all levels...by choice?!!? A fully aware point of cousciouness that is aware of everything from the strat of his experience as a point of attention, that delyberately fucked himself up. No matter how i could be succesful at putting the realm of spirituality into words...the words only are innacurate and incomplete. But to be able to put it into words properly it would require from me to remember. I don't remember to encounter a reptilian...in real life. But i saw quick flashes here and there on TV when i was young. One in particular is still very clear in my mind. It was a car commercial. I searched a bit for it but did not find anything closed to it.The face i saw was very much like wath the caracter personnified by Charlize Theron was seeing in the Devil's Advocate. A very quick shift. That was very creepy. At some point i was looking to spot some of those things..I was searching too much and saw things were there was nothing really. But i saw a few weird shit. I devellopped my discernement. 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Pierre-Luc Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 12 hours ago, bobb said: Has anybody heard of Kimberly Ann Goguen, I have watched a fair few video's related to Her, and she has been interviewed by Kerry Cassidy of Project Camelot, and I have to say she has a vast amount of knowledge that anyone familiar with the UFO phenomena would immediately recognise, there are sites out their denouncing Her as a fraud, myself though I am not so sure simply based on what she says, seems to have truth within it, and relates to this topic very well, could this be another attempt at derailing the minds of people, or is it an announcement of sorts that the Magicians have been busted and no longer allowed to practice their word magic? I am gone look at it about Kimberly. I am currently reading the books of Dr. Karla Turner. i read the first "into the fringe", i started the second"taken" but it was somewhat just a compilation of abductee's testimony. I am now reading her last one"mascarade of angels". This was her last book before she past away from a violent cancer(less than a year after the diagnosis). The death of Barbara Bartholic, a woman she worked with using hypnotherapy, was more than weird apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 8 hours ago, Pierre-Luc said: We kind became amnesic of our true nature What you wrote there I think has a lot of meaning, I have been wanting to read 'Worlds in collision' by Immanuel Velikovsky. Quote from Amazon about this book: 'Not without reason was this book found open on Einstein's desk after his death. For all those who have ever wondered about the evolution of the earth, the history of mankind, traditions, religions, mythology or just the world as it is today, Worlds in Collision is an absolute MUST-READ!' It is very much on my todo list. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Nasa, that's T minus..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre-Luc Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 On 12/19/2021 at 11:09 AM, bobb said: Has anybody heard of Kimberly Ann Goguen, I have watched a fair few video's related to Her, and she has been interviewed by Kerry Cassidy of Project Camelot, and I have to say she has a vast amount of knowledge that anyone familiar with the UFO phenomena would immediately recognise, there are sites out their denouncing Her as a fraud, myself though I am not so sure simply based on what she says, seems to have truth within it, and relates to this topic very well, could this be another attempt at derailing the minds of people, or is it an announcement of sorts that the Magicians have been busted and no longer allowed to practice their word magic? I started watching the interview the interview of Kimberly Ann Goguen Yesterday. To be honest i was getting very annoyed at about the 0h45 1h00 mark and i stopped. There is obviously a context that need to be made about it to make some kind of sense. But it one of the most erratic "testimony" i have watched in a long time. Almost at the beginning when Kimberly start to talk about the clearances and hierarchical things i was starting to be on a "be very careful" mode. It was not a big surprise for me after taking a look at the organization website...with the word governance right in the header. The interesting thing for me is what i learn about the early ages of project Camelot. When Kerry Cassidy and her former partner were having disagreement about the fact(she acknowledge) that their so call whistle blowers were deliberately lying to them. Her former partner was challenging them and she seem to think that it is okay to consider them whistle blower and to not challenge their narrative. Which make little sense to me. Anyways the interview with Kimberly would have been for me more of a exercise to improve my critical thinking when i was starting to go down into the rabbit hole 10+ years ago. Now i see it as half truth. Therefore a half lie. How can i be able to make a distinction and separate the thing? Why should i do it? Instead it make me question the Project Camelot relevance. I watch few interview of project Camelot trough out the years and many of those where all over the place and confusing in the same way the interview with Kimberly is. I am going to have a quick look at Immanuel Velikovsky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Pierre-Luc said: I started watching the interview the interview of Kimberly Ann Goguen Yesterday. To be honest i was getting very annoyed at about the 0h45 1h00 mark and i stopped. There is obviously a context that need to be made about it to make some kind of sense. But it one of the most erratic "testimony" i have watched in a long time. Almost at the beginning when Kimberly start to talk about the clearances and hierarchical things i was starting to be on a "be very careful" mode. It was not a big surprise for me after taking a look at the organization website...with the word governance right in the header. The interesting thing for me is what i learn about the early ages of project Camelot. When Kerry Cassidy and her former partner were having disagreement about the fact(she acknowledge) that their so call whistle blowers were deliberately lying to them. Her former partner was challenging them and she seem to think that it is okay to consider them whistle blower and to not challenge their narrative. Which make little sense to me. Anyways the interview with Kimberly would have been for me more of a exercise to improve my critical thinking when i was starting to go down into the rabbit hole 10+ years ago. Now i see it as half truth. Therefore a half lie. How can i be able to make a distinction and separate the thing? Why should i do it? Instead it make me question the Project Camelot relevance. I watch few interview of project Camelot trough out the years and many of those where all over the place and confusing in the same way the interview with Kimberly is. I am going to have a quick look at Immanuel Velikovsky. Maybe that was not one of the best Interviews of Kimberly Goguen, for me it is not Kimberly herself that got my attention it is the stuff she is on about, whether she is who she claims to be or not, that is what I find more than interesting, I will dig through some other titles related to her and put a link up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Pierre-Luc said: It was not a big surprise for me after taking a look at the organization website...with the word governance right in the header I know, as I say it is not her that intrigues me it's the message try this one, font side system, back side system, the black screen are all terms I have come across before but unable to locate where from at this time, for me it's another piece of the puzzle, don't forget that she talks about the Quantum mapping system but other's are saying Quantum financial system, out of the two the former would be more an accurate description in my opinion. Edited December 20, 2021 by bobb shit spelling again which is fitting for this thread :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 As David has said in a recent video many people are insecure and because they are insecure they look outside of themselves for conformation of their security Mattias Desmet has spoken about the psychological phenomenon of 'mass formation' which is a form of mass hypnosis that can be achieved when certain conditions exist in society. A certain percentage 30-50% of people become completely hypnotised under those conditions and can then be steered by those who control the flows of information to the public I suggest this knowledge has been known within the secret societies for centuries I think that percentage of people are, due to their personal make-up, absolutely TERRIFIED of not fitting in with the herd. They are TERRIFIED of standing out from the rest of society and as a result they will follow the herd off a cliff which is essentially what they are doing with these covid jabs David speaks about how public ridicule set him free and we can all see now how right he is about that because in order to not follow the herd off the cliff you have to be able to stand back and say 'i'm not going with you, and by the way you should turn back as you are heading towards a cliff!' Who wants to drive the herd off the cliff? Why Big Oil Conquered The World https://www.bitchute.com/video/0wlNey9t7hQ/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 And here is an excellent film portraying the psychopathic nature of those that are driven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 I posted this in another thread but I think it's relevant here as it highlights just how devious these creatures are with casting the spell of word magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 On 12/20/2021 at 4:56 PM, Pierre-Luc said: Anyways the interview with Kimberly would have been for me more of a exercise to improve my critical thinking when i was starting to go down into the rabbit hole 10+ years ago Yes I agree with your analysis and observation, but here is the trick, it is not to go all in so to speak but to bear in mind, by doing this connections start to arise and there are many of them, this is something that is not black and white as one might want but requires the expert use of Occam's razor, by stripping away the fluff and nonsense that so guardedly hides the truth, as always, ymmv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 23 hours ago, Macnamara said: As David has said in a recent video many people are insecure and because they are insecure they look outside of themselves for conformation of their security Mattias Desmet has spoken about the psychological phenomenon of 'mass formation' which is a form of mass hypnosis that can be achieved when certain conditions exist in society. A certain percentage 30-50% of people become completely hypnotised under those conditions and can then be steered by those who control the flows of information to the public I suggest this knowledge has been known within the secret societies for centuries I think that percentage of people are, due to their personal make-up, absolutely TERRIFIED of not fitting in with the herd. They are TERRIFIED of standing out from the rest of society and as a result they will follow the herd off a cliff which is essentially what they are doing with these covid jabs David speaks about how public ridicule set him free and we can all see now how right he is about that because in order to not follow the herd off the cliff you have to be able to stand back and say 'i'm not going with you, and by the way you should turn back as you are heading towards a cliff!' Who wants to drive the herd off the cliff? Why Big Oil Conquered The World https://www.bitchute.com/video/0wlNey9t7hQ/ Here is a very good Q&A with Prof. Mattias Desmet, 'Why Do So Many Still Buy Into The Narrative', frank and informative was my impression. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrQuack Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 they got it all down to a science, and learned to use technology and drugs to amplify ancient practices basically it's terror, fear of the police. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 On 12/18/2021 at 3:24 PM, Just Another Simulation said: I have been a follower of David Icke for many, many years. He often speaks of how we're all living under a spell, an enchantment. Who cast that spell? I ponder if there was intent for the spell to disorientate or was 'the other being' merely speaking with integrity and the effect was unintentional And Does our interpretation and acceptance of the spell give it all the power or is the spell inherently powerful ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Another Simulation Posted December 26, 2021 Author Share Posted December 26, 2021 On 12/19/2021 at 11:09 AM, bobb said: Has anybody heard of Kimberly Ann Goguen, I have watched a fair few video's related to Her, and she has been interviewed by Kerry Cassidy of Project Camelot, and I have to say she has a vast amount of knowledge that anyone familiar with the UFO phenomena would immediately recognise, there are sites out their denouncing Her as a fraud, myself though I am not so sure simply based on what she says, seems to have truth within it, and relates to this topic very well, could this be another attempt at derailing the minds of people, or is it an announcement of sorts that the Magicians have been busted and no longer allowed to practice their word magic? Thanks for the info. I watched the entire video, twice. I tend to think she's for real. She revealed a lot of things I knew to be true. And I never trusted Trump so I was happy for the info she provided about him. Of course, not many people are going to believe that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allymisfit Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 On 12/19/2021 at 4:36 PM, Truthspoon said: Some kind of 4 dimensional being ...... Can't say I've personally seen Reptilians..... I call them demons because that's what they've been called for a long time. Icke has started calling it 'Wendigo' which is all very well....but it still doesn't explain any context.... But yeah....some fucked up evil demon mofos are out there....... Some say they were are the spirits of the first men to live on Earth. This is possible too.... This was one of the definitions of the Nephilim according to Swedenborg (from my new book): Swedenborg comments on this phenomenon: “I perceived that no disasters or fortuitous evils, as they are called, can happen to a man with whom the Lord is: for when by the agency of evil spirits who were present, a restive horse threatened injury [to his rider], those spirits were suddenly cast down. They that were with me observed, that from such things it might be perceived what kind of spirits they are who bring misfortunes with them, which was afterwards confirmed.” These ‘spirits’ as well as being the spirits of the dead he also describes the activities of the Nephilim, which he describes as spiritual beings in hell and the original inhabitants of Canaan and the Garden of Eden who became corrupted and lost their love of God for the following of their own pleasures and using their will to dominate others. The etymology of the word Nephilim Swedenborg gives as relating to the Hebrew word Naphal: to fall, so it either means ‘fallen ones’ or ‘those who fall on others’. According to Swedenborg, not all the Nephilim perished in the great flood and some went on to father what he describes as, “the seven profane tribes which are known as the Avim, the Anakim, the Horim, the Emim, the Zuzim, the Zamzummim, and the Rephaim.” As for the presence of these tribes in the present day, I would say it is clear that they exist in some form and their descendants literally walk among us, but the last traces scholars have made of them are as follows: Avim: David Rohl suggests Ahhotep II who drove the Greater Hyksos Caphtorim out of Egypt, was an important descendant of this earlier Palestinian group and became the inspiration behind the legend of Io. Anak, the Anak were described as very tall and may be one of the origins of the Nephilim being described as ‘giants’. The word Anak is also the Hebrew word for giant. Robert Graves identifies the Anakim with Anax, the giant ruler of the Anactorians in Greek mythology. They inhabited the area later known as Edom and Moab. Horim: later became a Bronze Age people known as the Hurrians who settled extensively throughout Iraq, Syria and Anatolia (modern day Turkey) the present-day people of Armenia are the only national remnant of this people and they are intermixed with the Uratians. The term ‘Horim’ means ‘free-people’. Emim: Their name means ‘dreaded ones’ and the root is from the Hebrew word ‘Eyma’ which means ‘terror’. “The Emims dwelt therein in times past, a people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakim” (Deuteronomy 2:10). Zazu: According to the Hebrew Bible, the Zuzim or Zuzites (meaning "restless" or "roaming") were a tribe who lived in Ham, a land east of the Jordan River between Bashan and Moab. The Zuzim were conquered by the Elamite King Chedorlaomer (Genesis 14:5). Many scholars identify the Zuzim with the Zamzummim, a tribe of the Rephaim living in the same region as the Zuzim and later occupied by the Ammonites. In Hebrew "Zuz" represents the root "z'z" which means, "to move" and is likely associated with the Ancient Egyptian "s's" meaning, "to move on foot" as in the "ssw" or Shasu. The Shasu and Zuzim may be one and the same if one considers their close proximity to the Horites "Kharu" and Hebrews "Habiru" as they are described in Egyptian lists. Egyptologist and archaeologist, Donald B. Redford has argued that the earliest Israelites, semi-nomadic highlanders in central Palestine mentioned on the Merneptah Stele at the end of the 13th century BC with reference made to Yahweh as: “Yahu in the land of the Šosū-nomad” are to be identified as a Shasu enclave. Since later Biblical tradition portrays Yahweh "coming forth from Seʿir", the Shasu, originally from Moab and northern Edom/Seʿir, went on to form one major element in the amalgam that would constitute the "Israel" which later established the Kingdom of Israel. Rephaim: Again, these were a taller than average sized people. They are considered the ‘residents of the underworld’ wandering earthbound spirits, in other world, these could be the beings largely identified as Gods, demons and Djins. The Phoenicians considered the Rephaim ‘the divine ones’ and it is possible that many of the Gods of the ancient world are derived from the activity of the Rephaim. The etymology of the term ‘Rephaim’ has never been satisfactorily deduced. Og of Bashan was one of the Rephaim whom Moses slayed and his capital was called Ashtaroth, also known as Ashtartu, Ashtara and means "Astarte of the Horns”, Astarte being the name of a Canaanite Goddess. Ashtaroth is the name of a demon in Jewish demonology. Swedenborg believed that mankind used to be able to openly communicate with spirits but lost this faculty in the time of Noah. If this is true then it may offer some explanation to many of the events of the Old Testament as perhaps still a few of the prophets still had this ability, such as Moses hearing the voice of God and even catching a glimpse of his form or Samuel hearing God’s commandment to “blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven” or Joshua’s army following his orders from ‘God’: “They completely destroyed with the sword every living thing in the city -- men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, and donkeys.” I shall have to check out your book. Sounds pretty interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommydrifter Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 hello everybody ----- re: dark-spirit entities, psychopathic space aliens, and mind-control technologies and techniques the short answer is that the buck stops with psychopathic space aliens that are possessed by dark-spirit entities (the illuminati are mind-controlled and programmed by the space aliens to serve their masters). mind-control is the space aliens' method-of-operation: the space aliens use technology, their psychic abilities, ritual magic and other techniques to control us for their own reasons. there is a lot more to find out -- i am giving you the outlines only. for example, i am interested about the relationships between the illuminati, the nazis, and the communists; and the space aliens who work with them or work through them. it is a complicated picture that involves many groups and many factions, but none of these groups or factions are on our side; our allies are the god-mind and the light-spirit entities serving the god-mind. the mind-control techniques being weaponised against us are much older than our civilisation. i posted in the "recommended viewing" forum a lecture by stewart swerdlow about the history of mind-control; stewart swerdlow is one of the best sources of truthful information that i am aware of because he got is knowledge directly from the illuminati. for people who are skeptical about the montauk project, the time-travel claims of al bielek, and the montauk chair -- i understand -- however, now we have whistleblowers from the secret space program making corroborating claims about time-travel technology. this is the end of the rabbit hole; it does not go any deeper but there is a lot more to find out as i already said. to repeat: dark-spirit entities, psychopathic space aliens, and mind-control technologies and techniques. we are in no position to compete with these psychopathic space aliens because their knowledge, their abilities, their resources -- compared to us -- is immeasurably superior. however, we have the god-mind, so we are not without hope, if we can remember how to use it. this is why the best-informed user on these forums, who realised this before i did, oz93666, was telling you how to request divine intervention. learn how to use the god-mind everybody -- or we are toast. ----- have a great day everybody 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougASmall Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 On 12/19/2021 at 4:24 AM, Just Another Simulation said: I have been a follower of David Icke for many, many years. He often speaks of how we're all living under a spell, an enchantment. Who cast that spell? Actually it's the Lord God that made a deep sleep come over Adam G76 Before Chava was taken from his side. Adam your consciousness was not awakened. This is the time of the awakening. The Lord God is EL Elyon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 12 hours ago, allymisfit said: I shall have to check out your book. Sounds pretty interesting! I've got it out in paperback. Bit of a first for me. https://www.truthspoon.com/ I'm starting a Youtube video series based on my new book so keep your eye on my Youtube channel for new videos coming soon: https://www.youtube.com/c/Truthspoon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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