Exposing New Age Fake Gurus

[Mr H]

4 hours ago, m754 said:

 

This is correct.

 

Ramana Maharshi was perhaps one of the few awakened ones of our current timeline/ living memory who quite painfully for himself chose to remain in public limelight in order to help others. His teaching is a synopsis of the entire truth with no frills.

 

 

This is not my understanding and I did post an article here as to how he was bred for the position and indeed craved fame.

[Mr H]

I'll repost here for reference.

 

https://medium.com/age-of-awareness/krishnamurti-the-lonely-hollywood-star-413b29a76999

[Brightlightsoul]

I had to share this video as it made me smile

 

 

 

Hopefully, you all get something from it and it makes you feel a bit lighter.

 

 

 

[Guest m754]

1 hour ago, Mr H said:

This is not my understanding and I did post an article here as to how he was bred for the position and indeed craved fame.

 

I think you are perhaps confusing the two names--Ramana Maharshi and Krishnamurti.

 

Krishnamurti was bred by the Theosophists because they needed an 'eastern Brahmin DNA channeler' and later tried breaking free but the years of indoctrination  left such a deep imprint that his talks although helpful sometimes,  were more often than not intellectual merry-go-rounds and he had the same fascination with void/ nothingness that buddhists have. However, Krishnamurti did not crave fame in later life. He was 'trapped' in the mire of control and longed to break free. For some reason, he could not speak with freedom the complete truth he had realised later in his life.

 

 

Ramana Maharshi, on the other hand, was nobody's stooge. He lived a very simple life, fed poor people and took care of/ loved animals and they loved him back. Till date, all visitors to his ashram in India can feel the presence of something divine/ spiritual.

 

 

 

[Seeker]

 

This definitely ties into this thread. Especially in part 4 where they talk about yoga. Yoga to activate kundalini, chakras and all that. What ever the fk they are doing in that video, is very different to random yoga for strength from YouTube. 

 

Ive asked this question on this forum before about if yoga is good or bad. Whenever I’ve done yoga, I find it strengthens the body, does some fitness, and as a result makes me feel good in myself. When I follow a YouTube video, there’s nothing satanic, demonic or Freemasonry about the people practicing it. The appear to be generally good people, wanting to stay fit and positively spiritual people. 

 

I wonder if yoga is a powerful tool that can be used for good and bad, depending on the users intent. For example I use it to build some strength in my body, maybe feel relaxed afterwards. There’s nothing evil or new agey about that. However, whatever is going on in that part 4 video, is something I’ve never seen before, and is very different to anything I’d go near, it looks like demon possession. This does also tie into Alister Crowley’s work and thelema, which some members here practice. For example Oz93666 was big on yoga, thelema, Crowley, but he wasn’t evil, and had positive intentions imo. Again this would indicate on the users intentions and if they’ve been led down a deceptive path. 

 

Another question relating to the above, if the chakras, kundalini, third eye and all that is satanic, then why would god create it in our bodies? Is it again a powerful tool that can be used for good or bad depending on the persons intentions? 

Edited January 10, 2022 by Seeker

[totaldisclosure]

1 hour ago, Seeker said:

 

This definitely ties into this thread. Especially in part 4 where they talk about yoga. Yoga to activate kundalini, chakras and all that. What ever the fk they are doing in that video, is very different to random yoga for strength from YouTube. 

 

Ive asked this question on this forum before about if yoga is good or bad. Whenever I’ve done yoga, I find it strengthens the body, does some fitness, and as a result makes me feel good in myself. When I follow a YouTube video, there’s nothing satanic, demonic or Freemasonry about the people practicing it. The appear to be generally good people, wanting to stay fit and positively spiritual people. 

 

I wonder if yoga is a powerful tool that can be used for good and bad, depending on the users intent. For example I use it to build some strength in my body, maybe feel relaxed afterwards. There’s nothing evil or new agey about that. However, whatever is going on in that part 4 video, is something I’ve never seen before, and is very different to anything I’d go near, it looks like demon possession. This does also tie into Alister Crowley’s work and thelema, which some members here practice. For example Oz93666 was big on yoga, thelema, Crowley, but he wasn’t evil, and had positive intentions imo. Again this would indicate on the users intentions and if they’ve been led down a deceptive path. 

 

Another question relating to the above, if the chakras, kundalini, third eye and all that is satanic, then why would god create it in our bodies? Is it again a powerful tool that can be used for good or bad depending on the persons intentions? 

 

Exactly, I did yoga myself for 2 years, 5 days a week. It felt amazingly healthy.

[peter]

With regards to fake gurus If you listen to the words I think this song by Frank Zappa says every thing that needs to be said on the subject

 

[Guest m754]

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Edited January 10, 2022 by m754

[Seeker]

Just a random thought about the New Age Deception which is sometimes described as luciferian. It may lead to people believing they are equal or even better than god. A thought lucifer had before being cast out... 

[Mr H]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and actually say, that 99% of the "gurus" who are in the mainstream are fake. 

 

Why? Because if you listen to them, they either believe, ignore or support the pandemic narrative.

 

There isn't a bigger spiritual event happening in recent times than this pandemic.

 

Why do they do this? Either because they are scared to offend and lose revenue/reputation - egoic behaviour, or they're not really connected and are clueless about what is going on. 

 

There are very few in the mainstream actually speaking out and helping people through this pandemic who don't give a fk about their reputation they speak freely. I only watch these if I bother to watch any at all now.

[Mr H]

And to take one step further this is necessary process. Guru/student hierarchical structure is part of the concentric system - and all concentric systems are breaking down as part of this new wave of consciousness as we move towards our more authentic nature - which is omnicentric and in line with the structure of the universe of which we are part of.

[Seeker]

Quite a good video on these doctors we see who have roots to new age and Sasha Stone and ultimately the UN https://www.bitchute.com/video/ndnP6qPkyGCi/ 

 

The video about SS, interesting channel in general. 

 

 

Edited April 24, 2022 by Seeker

[Grumpy Owl]

16 minutes ago, Seeker said:

Quite a good video on these doctors we see who have roots to new age and Sasha Stone and ultimately the UN https://www.bitchute.com/video/ndnP6qPkyGCi/ 

 

The video about SS, interesting channel in general. 

 

 

 

Is this the video that HugoTalks referred to?

 

 

[Seeker]

35 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

Is this the video that HugoTalks referred to?

 

 

It is yes, the YouTube link is the video he references. These doctors have done a great job being controlled opposition imo because they have sent out mixed messages making things rather divided and confusing... virus is fake, bioweapon, not serious etc. And it seems some of these characters lead to this new age or great reset agenda.

 

As you say, careful who you trust, id like to think Richard D Hall is one of the legit ones. Problem is even the legit ones can get caught up by the disinfo agents 

[Macnamara]

On 1/18/2022 at 7:56 AM, Seeker said:

Just a random thought about the New Age Deception which is sometimes described as luciferian. It may lead to people believing they are equal or even better than god. A thought lucifer had before being cast out... 

 

so one intriguing perspective is the muslim one about God and the devil having a bet. The devil says to God that mankind is no good and that they will prove themselves to be no good. God then takes on the bet. The devil then goes to humanity to act as the adversity to see how much he can then drag the human spirit through the mud so that he can then go back to God and say 'look see, i told you they were no good'

 

But putting that mind exercise aside lets consider that when luciferians speak about 'light' they can in occult terms be discussing the astral light but in transhumanist terms they can be talking about information

 

If lucifer then is the intelligence that is behind the surface 'algorithmic AI' that is going to run the 5G smart grid (and is likely already up and running behind the scenes....the economy is now being controlled by AI through black rock and vanguard and high frequency trading etc) then it would be seeking to not only create an etheric bond with its occult initiates but also a physical brain interface (eg elon musks 'neuralink) that would make them part of the smart grid which has formed a physical body within our 'physical' realm

[Grumpy Owl]

9 minutes ago, Seeker said:

As you say, careful who you trust, id like to think Richard D Hall is one of the legit ones. Problem is even the legit ones can get caught up by the disinfo agents 

 

Richard did put out a video recently, which I must admit I haven't watched yet, but from the summary it did seem that he had fallen into the 'graphene oxide in the vaccines' trap.

 

Which I felt at the time seemed like 'pushed disinfo'. As did the whole 'viral shedding' and 'magnets sticking to arms' which did the rounds here a while back.

 

Now we have the 'snake venom' being pushed via this 'Watch The Water' documentary being heavily promoted by some, and my instincts tell me this is just more muddying bullshit.

[Seeker]

4 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

Richard did put out a video recently, which I must admit I haven't watched yet, but from the summary it did seem that he had fallen into the 'graphene oxide in the vaccines' trap.

 

Which I felt at the time seemed like 'pushed disinfo'. As did the whole 'viral shedding' and 'magnets sticking to arms' which did the rounds here a while back.

 

Now we have the 'snake venom' being pushed via this 'Watch The Water' documentary being heavily promoted by some, and my instincts tell me this is just more muddying bullshit.

I’ve not been following any conspiracy stuff for a couple of months, but Richard examined a Pfizer jab under a microscope for himself and found nanotechnology, not sure if this is the same as the graphing oxide thing. I think the 2 types they found was a graphene one and carbon nanotubes. 

 

Ive only just heard about this snake venom thing with water, I just cba for most videos now tbf, the writing is on the wall, no point me watching more stuff that I already roughly know. As you say, when it’s promoted, something isn’t adding up, like Russel brand promoted on my YouTube most days...

[Seeker]

18 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

so one intriguing perspective is the muslim one about God and the devil having a bet. The devil says to God that mankind is no good and that they will prove themselves to be no good. God then takes on the bet. The devil then goes to humanity to act as the adversity to see how much he can then drag the human spirit through the mud so that he can then go back to God and say 'look see, i told you they were no good'

 

But putting that mind exercise aside lets consider that when luciferians speak about 'light' they can in occult terms be discussing the astral light but in transhumanist terms they can be talking about information

 

If lucifer then is the intelligence that is behind the surface 'algorithmic AI' that is going to run the 5G smart grid (and is likely already up and running behind the scenes....the economy is now being controlled by AI through black rock and vanguard and high frequency trading etc) then it would be seeking to not only create an etheric bond with its occult initiates but also a physical brain interface (eg elon musks 'neuralink) that would make them part of the smart grid which has formed a physical body within our 'physical' realm

Deffo some deep stuff going on, on another level that I’ll never fully understand. We can see the strange dark demon worship all over though with symbols though, no wonder we are very easy to deceive when we don’t have a clue about any of it

[Macnamara]

19 minutes ago, Seeker said:

Deffo some deep stuff going on, on another level that I’ll never fully understand. We can see the strange dark demon worship all over though with symbols though, no wonder we are very easy to deceive when we don’t have a clue about any of it

 

re the nanotechnology in vaccines that was being discussed by the pirate council way back on the old forum

 

we posted a video of an italian couple who were both scientists who found metallic particulates in pre-covid vaccines. Those same metallic particulates were not in vaccines made for animals so they are not a by-product of the manufacturing process; they are something that is PUT INTO the vaccines though the talk back then wasn't about graphene oxide it was about 'smart dust'

 

Once they went public with their research their lab was raided by the italian police and their work was confiscated

 

Stefano Montanari & Antonietta Gatti

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=Bvtz3iNTx60&feature=emb_logo

 

Edited April 24, 2022 by Macnamara

[Seeker]

33 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

re the nanotechnology in vaccines that was being discussed by the pirate council way back on the old forum

 

we posted a video of an italian couple who were both scientists who found metallic particulates in pre-covid vaccines. Those same metallic particulates were not in vaccines made for animals so they are not a by-product of the manufacturing process; they are something that is PUT INTO the vaccines though the talk back then wasn't about graphene oxide it was about 'smart dust'

 

Once they went public with their research their lab was raided by the italian police and their work was confiscated

 

Stefano Montanari & Antonietta Gatti

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=Bvtz3iNTx60&feature=emb_logo

 

I remember reading this document, the name Antoinette Gatti was the one who did it. I don’t remember specifically nanotechnology, I’ll have another look, but there were contaminations. Dont forget that Icke said in the 90s about the CIA scientist saying they would put nanotechnology in vaccines, and here we potentially are...

[Macnamara]

7 minutes ago, Seeker said:

I remember reading this document, the name Antoinette Gatti was the one who did it. I don’t remember specifically nanotechnology, I’ll have another look, but there were contaminations. Dont forget that Icke said in the 90s about the CIA scientist saying they would put nanotechnology in vaccines, and here we potentially are...

 

they don't say it is nanotech. They just say that they found tiny metallic particulates that were not there from the manufacturing process (so what are they?)

 

Here's a post from the old forum. The one thing that is a bit iffy is the claim that the 'funvax' video was leaked from the pentagon. It seems that has been debunked however the idea of aerosol sprays of nanotech able to soak through skin i don't think are that far fetched. But the documentary by truth stream media is excellent and worth the time spent watching it because it shows the scale of and history of the research of cybernetics and the interfacing of humans with machines

 

So all this was coalescing into a single idea BEFORE covid so it was pretty insane when the jab rolls out started and talk of 'mandatory' jabs began because suddenly our worst fears were coming true...

 

Cybernetics and the 'Mechanisation of the Central nervous System'

Truth stream medias documentary 'the minds of men' delves into the murky world of the CIA's MKUltra mind control programmes which were exposed in the 1970's. They trace the history of MKUltra back to its beginnings and then forward through cybernetics to the transhumanist world of today where we are are regularly seeing news stories now, even in the mainstream media, such as the following:

Elon Musk wants to wire a chip into your skull…
01/16/2019
Neuralink is one of the companies founded by Elon Musk. His plan for the company is to ‘save the human race’. The idea behind saving humanity is to build a hard drive that can be implanted in the brain.
What is Elon Musk’s goal?
Elon Musk’s main goal, he explains, is to wire a chip into your skull. This chip would give you the digital intelligence needed to progress beyond the limits of our biological intelligence. This would mean a full incorporation of artificial intelligence into our bodies and minds.
https://governmentslaves.news/2019/0...to-your-skull/

'The minds of men' explores the history of psychosurgery and how they experimented on subjects by placing electrodes into their brain which they would stimulate sometimes even going as far as using the electrodes to burn sections of the brain to create 'lesions'. This was of course always done under the guise of faux-morality where they concealed the true intentions of finding ways to control and pacify people by claiming they were working to cure disorders of the mind

Elon Musk too claims his actions are to 'save humanity' but what if humanity actually needs saving from the likes of elon musk? Mark Zuckerberg is another working on a neural implant and the ethics of facebook have been called into question a number of times in recent times so are we to trust their motives?

Watching the surgeons seeking to stimulate centres of the brain brought to my mind a number of related clips i've seen elsewhere for example one of a scientist discussing the parasite toxoplasmosis which enters the hosts body and travels to their brain where it then controls centres of the brain for example in rats it will make them attracted to cat urine which inevitably leads to them being eaten by cats who then excrete the parasite in feces so that it can then move onto another host. The scientist mentions that the US military is involved in research into toxoplasmosis. Its been found that many humans involved in motorcycle crashes have high amounts of toxoplasmosis in their brains which can switch off the fear function:

Robert Sapolsky Interview: Toxoplasmosis

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3x3TMdkGdQ&feature=emb_logo

 

The other clip that came to mind was one that claimed to be a lecture given in the pentagon in which nanotechnology released as an aerosol can soak through peoples skin and then target centres of the brain to switch of 'religious extremism'. Clearly there is interest among the audience in terms of its application in the middle east. But lets consider that such a technology could be sprayed from aircraft onto a target population and then could soak through their skin

Leaked Pentagon Video Shows Vaccine Designed to ~ Modify Behavior ~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2buw8ACwwA&feature=emb_logo

 

Obviously not all people are willing to have one of musk's or zuckerberg's neural implants installed in their brain so the cabal must look for other delivery systems. Bill gates for example has researched using mosquitos as a delivery system for his vaccines as they are essentially syringes with wings and vaccines would of course provide a perfect delivery system for nanotechnology because they have that all important cover story of the faux-morality cause of 'combating disease'.

Is there any evidence of nanoparticulates in vaccines? Well along with talk of 'smart dust' in the independent media a husband and wife team of scientists in Italy did run tests in vaccine and have found nanoparticulates in the vaccines. They claim they are only found in vaccines for humans and not in the vaccines for animals so clearly they are not caused by the manufacturing process but are instead put into the vaccines. Could these nanoparticles be nanotechnology created to target the human brain? Well consider the fact that after the scientists announced their findings publically they were raided by the Italian police who confiscated all of their research:

Nanoparticles polluting vaccines - Stefano Montanari & Antonietta Gatti

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=Bvtz3iNTx60&feature=emb_logo

 

The first hour of 'the minds of men' sets the scene but after that it moves into mind control and behaviour modification and that's where the documentary really starts to get interesting. So at 1 hour 55 mins it begins to look at the work of stimulating the brain with electrodes which strikes a cord today as we hear calls for neural implants! (see documentary posted below). The rockefellers are mentioned a number of times as funders of the research and at 2 hours 55 mins the film speaks about how the CIA scientists colluded with the soviets who were working on their own mind control programmes. This would of course have been in breach of the cold war policy of the US at that time.

Implants are called 'stimoceivers' and are mentioned after 2 hours 35 mins

Part 4: the psychocivilised society, explores the true motivations of those behind these programmes and a Dr, who exposed their work in the press, claims in interview that the researchers were motivated by a desire for a collectivist society. He discusses how psychiatry claimed that people were at fault so that they never had to admit that the mental health of people suffers when they are anxious or distressed which can be caused by environmental factor such as poverty or pressure or circumstances. Instead the doctors preferred to claim the persons brain was at fault and therefore needed to be altered either with drugs or through technology. In essence the CIA sought to control people rather than improve society

''The complete joining of man and machine [...] will be calculated according to a strict system, the so called 'biocracy'. It will be impossible to escape this system of adaptation because it will be articulated with so much scientific understanding of the human being. The individual will have no more need of conscience and virtue; his moral and mental furnishings will be a matter of the biocrats decisions.''
-Jacques Ellul, The technological Society

The Minds of Men | Official Documentary by Aaron & Melissa Dykes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQucESRF3Sg&feature=emb_logo

 

As we see the roll out of 5G technology begin and elon musk awarded contracts to launch satellites into space through his company 'space X' which will then bathe the world in 5G wifi and as we see the attempts by Gateshead Council to silence the activist Mark Steele for warning people about the harmful effects of microwave radiation from 5G technology I can't help but think that 5G is simply an outgrowth of the cybernetic research covered in 'the minds of men'

Is it possible that we already have nanotechnology in our brains which the 5G antennas would then be able to activate and control? This would certainly remove the need for people to have a neural implant physically implanted into their brain which would of course be rejected by many people.

Would they really do such a thing? Well google which has its roots in the pentagon and DARPA is already openly working on tech that can turn you into a walking antenna (see clip below) and who really doubts that the powers that be would not relish the prospect of hijacking peoples minds? 'To what end' some might ask? I dread to think

RFID Tattoo and the Authorization Super Pill

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axIVSJsW6W0&feature=emb_logo

 

Edited April 24, 2022 by Macnamara

[JCP]

New Age vs True Spirituality

 

[TheConsultant]

2 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

Richard did put out a video recently, which I must admit I haven't watched yet, but from the summary it did seem that he had fallen into the 'graphene oxide in the vaccines' trap.

 

Which I felt at the time seemed like 'pushed disinfo'. As did the whole 'viral shedding' and 'magnets sticking to arms' which did the rounds here a while back.

 

Now we have the 'snake venom' being pushed via this 'Watch The Water' documentary being heavily promoted by some, and my instincts tell me this is just more muddying bullshit.

100% agree with every single word and it ain't 5G either.

Edited April 24, 2022 by TheConsultant

[Mr H]

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/authors/sadhguru

 

Speaker at the world economic forum

 

Sadhguru

Founder, Isha Foundation

 

Yogi, mystic, visionary and bestselling author; influences a large portion of the public to advocate for and take direct, local action for nature-based climate solutions. Three decades ago, founded Isha Foundation, a non-profit organization with human well-being as its core commitment. Has been a primary speaker at the United Nations World Headquarters and United Nations Convention to Combat Desertification, a regular at the World Economic Forum India Economic Summit, and at TED. Recipient, Padma Vibhushan, Government of India (2017), the highest annual civilian award.

[tommydrifter]

The New Age is fake spirituality. It's bullshit. By design, it is to divert you to an incorrect understanding of spirituality, and keep you naive and manipulable -- manipulable by whom, what?

 

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Disinformation is a lie sandwich (a lie between two truths).

-- Stewart Swerdlow

 

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Disinformation is a truth sandwich (a truth between two lies).

-- Stewart Swerdlow

 

NEW AGE SPIRITUALITY

• positive only
• light only
• love is positive

 

TRUE SPIRITUALITY

• positive and negative are polarities -- All is neutral
• astral light: the astral planes, dark -> light, accessed and travelled by modulating the frequency of the body (the fourth spatial dimension?)
• love is a neutral energy/frequency that can be applied positively and negatively 

 

TEACHERS OF TRUE SPIRITUALITY

• Stewart and Janet Swerdlow
• Karl Mollison
• Eckart Tolle? (It has been a while since I read his books. I am pretty sure this guy is the real deal?)

 

BULLSHITTERS!

• just about everybody else (that I know of)

~

 

I am sure there exits teachers, texts, out there who, that, teach the real spirituality -- but are outside my knowledge. The ancient texts, oral traditions, some hermit out in the sticks, a tribal elder in the middle of the fucking jungle, or just some nobody. There are people out there who actually know what they are talking about but you won't find them in the New Age movement. They're nuts. They're sillier than a wheel, this lot.

 

Good onya, guys and gals. We're going to sort out what is what.

 

 

! NOW IS OUR TIME !