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Everyone is welcome to chip in with their thoughts on particular people. I’ve been meaning to set up a thread on this for a while but forgot. 

 

However, I recently came across an interesting video that connected a few dots for me - https://www.bitchute.com/video/KRspxhs8zuBX/

 

Skip to 5:30, and skip the bits where he’s ranting about this woman on twitter 

 

So this video is about the likes of Corey Goode, Steven Wilcock, Steven Greer & Linda Moulton Howe. How between them they push this idea of friendly aliens, new age spirituality, galactic federation, new earth, Q, all of these insane ideas that have zero evidence behind them. You may have noticed that these type of people are usually promoted, let’s say a Gaia advert on Facebook or YouTube, and I now know why. 

 

It turns out that a company called Zohar Entertainment Group has taken over particular platforms and promotes these type of people. Interestingly here is their website if anyone wants to check it out - https://zoharmanagement.com

 

and here is their YouTube channel - https://m.youtube.com/c/UAMNTV/videos

 

This channel looks to have been around for about a year or two, and already has 410k subscribers. Plenty of videos pushing aliens, new age etc, interestingly they have some David Icke videos, however these videos appear to be videos where they have taken speeches he has said, and turned it into a new age video of their own. It doesn’t appear that David Icke has specifically worked with this group. Interesting either way, only showing David’s spirituality work, nothing on his other brilliant work. 

 

It seems beyond a coincident that a company called ‘Zohar’ entertainment is pushing this shite. A company run by an English man with dual citizenship, and his second nationality just so happens to be Israel. Very interesting overall. 

 

As for the new age/ alien/ ufo/ abduction/ implants/ mutilation subjects, I don’t know the truth for certain, I’m an ordinary person with not much experience in that sort of stuff. However, I’m sure some members here can add interesting knowledge and experience to the topics. There is no doubt in my mind of something beyond this realm, extremely advanced technology that’s called a ufo, probably human made, and some of these people I’ve listed above may well be telling the truth about some things, maybe about 5% if I’m being generous. In particular with aliens, Linda Moulton Howe and Steven Greer have done a lot of work, but let’s remember who their friends are, the Rockefeller’s... another coincidence.... 

 

 

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Threads have already been made on Sasha Stone and Simon Parkes. 

 

 

There are other threads talking about Simon Parkes as he talks about many topics. One interesting thing about him is that even though he claims he’s the child of aliens, he’s into new age and all that, he has stated that he is in fact Jewish. I never knew Jews believed in alien parents, interesting either way. I believe he likely knows quite a lot about occult and Kabbalist magic. Some strange stories on the internet about people’s interaction with him, just stories though, not solid proof. 

 

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As I mentioned, everyone is welcome to comment and post about who you think has an agenda. I think there is real spirituality and brilliant things which can be used in a very positive way in our lives, however this is clearly an area that has been hijacked by fake gurus, leading those who are awake to the NWO, into some insane fantasy story. Similar to Q, great awakening, aliens gonna save us, all in all, do nothing. 

 

Some speculate it’s a deeper agenda of taking people into some sort of Kabbalah luciferian worship. A good portion of people who believe this say it is a luciferian agenda to make those stray away from Jesus. All interesting ideas, and there’s certainly something to it. 

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I enjoy listening to Art Bell shows either on YouTube or through an app on my phone called Paranormal Radio. There are some highly dubious folk on his shows. Linda Moulton-Howe and Dr. Steven Greer have featured. I enjoy listening but most of it I think can be taken with a gigantic pinch of salt.

 

Whitley Strieber was a guest who believed he had interactions with non-human entities.

 

I will endeavour to answer your question more fully in terms of other people who have guested when I can get my brain in gear. This is a great topic which I'm now following. 

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19 hours ago, Seeker said:

Some speculate it’s a deeper agenda of taking people into some sort of Kabbalah luciferian worship.

 

There's no denying that there was an occult revival in the last century that saw many occult groups spring up. You could say it goes way back before the 20th century but it became normalised in the 1900's.

 

Many of those groups see history in terms of ages or aeons and they claim that we are entering a new age which of course then feeds into talk of a 'new world order' and a 'new age'

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26 minutes ago, Seeker said:

Who comes to mind? 

The latest one that came to mind when I saw your thread was John St Julien Baba Wanyama. I don't like advertising these people, but seeing as you asked :-). I can't remember why I clicked on the first video, but probably listened longer than I would have due to his accent. The usually, plenty of truths, but agenda push of passiveness. Whether he's changed his tune in more recent videos I don't know, but he wasn't condemning the BS going on these past couple of years.

 

Have you heard of him, & if so, what's your opinion?

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51 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

There's no denying that there was an occult revival in the last century that saw many occult groups spring up. You could say it goes way back before the 20th century but it became normalised in the 1900's.

 

Many of those groups see history in terms of ages or aeons and they claim that we are entering a new age which of course then feeds into talk of a 'new world order' and a 'new age'

 

The Quatuor Coronati Freemasonic lodge is named in honour of four jews who were killed by the romans for infiltrating the roman craft guilds

 

The lodge was set up by nine freemasons one of which, charles warren, was the man put in charge of the jack the ripper murder case which of course famously failed to find a killer. He had previously served in the army and had led a detachment of royal engineers to jerusalem where they dug under temple mount; in their excavations they found some artifacts of the knights templar.

 

Another of the founders was walter besant who was one of three brothers. One of the brothers Frank was the husband of anne besant who is a KEY figure in the new age movement. As you can see below she was involved in both theosophy AND co-freemasonry as well as being a fabian socialist. The following from wikipedia:

 

Annie Besant (née Wood; 1 October 1847 – 20 September 1933) was a British socialist, theosophist, women's rights activist, writer, orator, educationist, and philanthropist.

She was a leading speaker for both the Fabian Society and the Marxist Social Democratic Federation (SDF). She was also elected to the London School Board for Tower Hamlets, topping the poll, even though few women were qualified to vote at that time.

In 1890 Besant met Helena Blavatsky, and over the next few years her interest in theosophy grew, whilst her interest in secular matters waned. She became a member of the Theosophical Society and a prominent lecturer on the subject. As part of her theosophy-related work, she traveled to India. In 1898 she helped establish the Central Hindu School, and in 1922 she helped establish the Hyderabad (Sind) National Collegiate Board in Bombay (today's Mumbai), India. In 1902, she established the first overseas Lodge of the International Order of Co-Freemasonry, Le Droit Humain. Over the next few years, she established lodges in many parts of the British Empire. In 1907 she became president of the Theosophical Society, whose international headquarters were, by then, located in Adyar, Madras, (Chennai).

Criticism of Christianity

Besant opined that for centuries the leaders of Christian thought spoke of women as a necessary evil and that the greatest saints of the Church were those who despised women the most, "Against the teachings of eternal torture, of the vicarious atonement, of the infallibility of the Bible, I leveled all the strength of my brain and tongue, and I exposed the history of the Christian Church with unsparing hand, its persecutions, its religious wars, its cruelties, its oppressions. (Annie Besant, An Autobiography Chapter VII)." In the section named "Its Evidences Unreliable" of her work "Christianity", Besant presents the case of why the Gospels are not authentic: "before about A.D. 180 there is no trace of FOUR gospels among the Christians."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Besant

 

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hermetic order of the golden dawn also linked to the quatuor coronati lodge:

Adolphus Frederick Alexander Woodford

After moving to London, his editorship of the Freemason ignited an interest in the study of Masonic history, and led to the establishment of Quatuor Coronati Lodge, dedicated to masonic research. Woodford was the first Immediate Past Master of the lodge, and as such convened the lodge for much of its first two years, during the frequent absences of Charles Warren, the master.[2] Just before his death, towards the end of 1887, he passed on a set of coded papers which resulted in the establishment of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn.

Lastly, he played at least some part in the establishment of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, passing the cipher manuscripts from which it was founded to his friend William Wynn Westcott shortly before his death.[8] He had already made a strong case that the mystic and philosophical elements which allowed Freemasonry to evolve from a purely operative to a speculative society were likely to have been imported from some aspects of the Hermeticism practised during the Renaissance.

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37 minutes ago, BlueSky said:

The latest one that came to mind when I saw your thread was John St Julien Baba Wanyama. I don't like advertising these people, but seeing as you asked :-). I can't remember why I clicked on the first video, but probably listened longer than I would have due to his accent. The usually, plenty of truths, but agenda push of passiveness. Whether he's changed his tune in more recent videos I don't know, but he wasn't condemning the BS going on these past couple of years.

 

Have you heard of him, & if so, what's your opinion?

Just looked at his YouTube channel, I recognise him now, I don’t know what to make of people like him tbh, reminds me of similar ones like Infinite Waters and Aaron Doughty. I think these smaller names are influenced by the bigger names, so end up repeating what they say. There is something to what they say, just depends how it’s used I guess, I’d be surprised if they were proper in on it controlled opposition. I think they likely have good intentions, also they will make lots of videos for more views and money etc. I am certain that the infinite waters guy is a David Icke fan, as he’s repeated his lines many times. 

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8 hours ago, BlueSky said:

The latest one that came to mind when I saw your thread was John St Julien Baba Wanyama. I don't like advertising these people, but seeing as you asked :-). I can't remember why I clicked on the first video, but probably listened longer than I would have due to his accent. The usually, plenty of truths, but agenda push of passiveness. Whether he's changed his tune in more recent videos I don't know, but he wasn't condemning the BS going on these past couple of years.

 

Have you heard of him, & if so, what's your opinion?

 

Yes, I have seen this guy. He was talking about the Chrism which is supposedly the sacred secretion through pineal activation. I found it both interesting and creepy at the same time. There's something about him that I find 'off' and for that reason, I didn't view any more of his material.

 

I came across another person on YouTube. His channel is called IllumiGnostic. I find him highly dubious and his YouTube channel art features a rabbit and the rainbow colours. He plays guitar rather noisily as well, performing requests from his fans on occasion. I don't know what to make of the mish-mash of content on his channel. Crowley, Akashic records, Interdimensional awareness (?) crypto, psychedelics, the Eye of Horus etc etc

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6 hours ago, JJ73 said:

 

Yes, I have seen this guy. He was talking about the Chrism which is supposedly the sacred secretion through pineal activation. I found it both interesting and creepy at the same time. There's something about him that I find 'off' and for that reason, I didn't view any more of his material.

 

I came across another person on YouTube. His channel is called IllumiGnostic. I find him highly dubious and his YouTube channel art features a rabbit and the rainbow colours. He plays guitar rather noisily as well, performing requests from his fans on occasion. I don't know what to make of the mish-mash of content on his channel. Crowley, Akashic records, Interdimensional awareness (?) crypto, psychedelics, the Eye of Horus etc etc

I think they can act as triggers with truths, but as always using ones own discernment. & not getting stuck, clinging to someone as a guru. 

 

 

 

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On 12/14/2021 at 11:39 PM, Seeker said:

 

As for the new age/ alien/ ufo/ abduction/ implants/ mutilation subjects, I don’t know the truth for certain, I’m an ordinary person with not much experience in that sort of stuff. However, I’m sure some members here can add interesting knowledge and experience to the topics. There is no doubt in my mind of something beyond this realm, extremely advanced technology that’s called a ufo, probably human made, and some of these people I’ve listed above may well be telling the truth about some things, maybe about 5% if I’m being generous. In particular with aliens, Linda Moulton Howe and Steven Greer have done a lot of work, but let’s remember who their friends are, the Rockefeller’s... another coincidence.... 

 

 

They know nothing and they lie. You can't find anything on youtube that hasn't been contaminated and changed by humans. Religions that are cults, including the near-death cult, serve to prevent you from finding Answers. Everything here is a lie. Also the UFO cult where a human interpretation was deliberately invented to distract from the truth. The rule is that you can believe in anything but you cannot know it.

 

What is the truth? We are in the depths of something impossible. And it is intelligent and has always been here. And nothing here belongs to us. And the system that so many are afraid of has no way of stopping what cannot be stopped. The journey.

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Mooji and Krishnamurti been exposed as frauds to varying extents.

 

My experience is gurus who choose to be gurus normally ain't gurus. Real ones normally don't wish to be gurus and are normally chosen by the people e.g Ramana Maharishi

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On 12/15/2021 at 12:53 AM, Seeker said:

As I mentioned, everyone is welcome to comment and post about who you think has an agenda. I think there is real spirituality and brilliant things which can be used in a very positive way in our lives, however this is clearly an area that has been hijacked by fake gurus, leading those who are awake to the NWO, into some insane fantasy story. Similar to Q, great awakening, aliens gonna save us, all in all, do nothing. 

 

Some speculate it’s a deeper agenda of taking people into some sort of Kabbalah luciferian worship. A good portion of people who believe this say it is a luciferian agenda to make those stray away from Jesus. All interesting ideas, and there’s certainly something to it. 

What spirituality resources do you refer to as being real? 

 

please provide me with some great reading materials on the topic of spirituality. I. Genuinely interested in this field.

 

I do agree that there are a lot of fake people purposefully planted out there to promote fake beliefs. I guess it is for each Individual to use their own subjectiveness and soft through the rubbish. 

 

it's a great thread to create, but it would be even more awesome to promote positive spiritual resources aswell as highlight the fakes :) 

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2 hours ago, Brightlightsoul said:

What spirituality resources do you refer to as being real? 

 

please provide me with some great reading materials on the topic of spirituality. I. Genuinely interested in this field.

 

I do agree that there are a lot of fake people purposefully planted out there to promote fake beliefs. I guess it is for each Individual to use their own subjectiveness and soft through the rubbish. 

 

it's a great thread to create, but it would be even more awesome to promote positive spiritual resources aswell as highlight the fakes :) 

I’m not too sure what to suggest sorry. I know there is truth to some of it, which can be used for good or bad. Other people here can suggest decent material to read or check out. I just follow a basic be kind to people and nature. 

 

I created the thread because some of the people promoting certain new age aspects, have dodgy connections which I do not trust. 

 

I guess part of the fun in life is figuring out the truth spirituality wise 

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12 hours ago, Mr H said:

Mooji and Krishnamurti been exposed as frauds to varying extents.

 

My experience is gurus who choose to be gurus normally ain't gurus. Real ones normally don't wish to be gurus and are normally chosen by the people e.g Ramana Maharishi

 

This is correct.

 

Ramana Maharshi was perhaps one of the few awakened ones of our current timeline/ living memory who quite painfully for himself chose to remain in public limelight in order to help others. His teaching is a synopsis of the entire truth with no frills.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Brightlightsoul said:

What spirituality resources do you refer to as being real? 

 

It depends on a lot of factors. What stage of life you are in, your experiences, your innate tendencies, etc..

 

One normally begins with what is available easily as in religious texts, online articles, library books etc. and see where it takes you. The awakening to truth happens slowly and depends on the spiritual evolution stage one is in.

 

Your 'spirit/ soul' is carrying imprints that you cannot see. And is on a journey of its own. Align with it.

 

The major confusion arises when one is unsure of what we want from our spiritual quest. (I am of course using words that have meaning in our common perception. At a very abstract level--there is no quest or seeking.) If there is a conflict with what one wants deep inside and what one is trying hard to accept as spiritual truth--it will lead to actual unpleasantness in life--and distortions in ego. A spiritual quest will not lead to material benefits or conquest of perceived enemies etc. Matter and spirit are opposites. That is the basis of the entire experience we are having. One goes on a strange surreal quest that purports to have the ultimate aim of awakening but actually has no 'aim' or 'gain' in terms of anything tangible.

 

That is just what I have learned from my own continuing struggles with seeking the truth..

 

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I agree, that there is no set path to take in order to seek truth. 

Its interesting though how everyone that's posted, have said more or less the same thing. In that it is an individual journey, dependent upon what experiences you go through in life and what materials you are drawn to along with what you take from the information you have just read. 

I also just live by the principal of kindness to others and animals and try to see the positive in everything (which is a challenge sometimes) 

For me, moving from the UK to Cape Town, it has also been a journey, where I have realized how conditioned I had become in the UK to work hard for social and material gain. That mindset was quickly tipped on it's head! when you realize the amount of poverty there is around you. People think that o am mad living here, but it truly is a magical country. 

3 hours ago, m754 said:

 

It depends on a lot of factors. What stage of life you are in, your experiences, your innate tendencies, etc..

 

One normally begins with what is available easily as in religious texts, online articles, library books etc. and see where it takes you. The awakening to truth happens slowly and depends on the spiritual evolution stage one is in.

 

Your 'spirit/ soul' is carrying imprints that you cannot see. And is on a journey of its own. Align with it.

 

The major confusion arises when one is unsure of what we want from our spiritual quest. (I am of course using words that have meaning in our common perception. At a very abstract level--there is no quest or seeking.) If there is a conflict with what one wants deep inside and what one is trying hard to accept as spiritual truth--it will lead to actual unpleasantness in life--and distortions in ego. A spiritual quest will not lead to material benefits or conquest of perceived enemies etc. Matter and spirit are opposites. That is the basis of the entire experience we are having. One goes on a strange surreal quest that purports to have the ultimate aim of awakening but actually has no 'aim' or 'gain' in terms of anything tangible.

 

That is just what I have learned from my own continuing struggles with seeking the truth..

 

 

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