How the dark ones deceive us. Near-death experience.

[Guardian]

 

99% of people that have a near-death experience are religious or on the fence.

 

They all see "angels" and/or "god" they see a tunnel and light.
They might see a "dead" relative.
They feel love, peace, harmony. Unimaginable beauty. 

 

And they feel powerful, unlimited beings and sense almost everything and are everywhere at the same time.
And that this world looks so meaningless and hollow... So irrelevant.
This is true... That is the beings that we actually are.

 

They are told what they want to hear.
They are all told exactly the same thing.

That they are loved and special and that they need to go back cos their work is not done yet.

What work? 
They all live a meaningless, hollow existence after the "near-death" experience.
Just as they did before it.

 

But what does actually happen is that they reinforce their own belief in God and are reinforcing the beliefs of those around them.
Some might write a book to reinforce the beliefs of other religious people and those that are on the fence.
Doing the Dark One's bidding.

 

The Dark Ones are the Masters of Illusion and Deception.

 

Do Not fall for it.
 

[BlueSky]

What's your plan when your body dies then?

[Guardian]

46 minutes ago, BlueSky said:

What's your plan when your body dies then?

 

Fight them like I always have.

What else is there? 

 

They cannot be reasoned with.

 

First I would connect and take control of the rest of my being.... once I do, I will remember everything. What I am and what has happened.... 

And then act accordingly. 

 

 

 

Edited December 11, 2021 by Guardian

[BlueSky]

6 hours ago, Guardian said:

 

Fight them like I always have.

What else is there? 

 

They cannot be reasoned with.

 

First I would connect and take control of the rest of my being.... once I do, I will remember everything. What I am and what has happened.... 

And then act accordingly. 

 

 

 

What do you think would happen if you stopped fighting with them?

 

"I will remember everything. What I am and what has happened.... 

And then act accordingly." Makes sense to me. 

 

 

[andy1033]

For people that have never had a real spiritual experience, this film shows you what it is like.

 

Hollywood exaggerates like it always does, but if you ever have a real experience, its like this. It really is, but this exorcist movie obviously exaggerates

 

 

Your family really do look at you like that, and the film goes over the top, but it is like this.

[Guest]

7 hours ago, BlueSky said:

What's your plan when your body dies then?

 

I wrote this some time ago ....... but I still hold it as correct!

 

Why are we here on Earth?

One would need to know:
What you are?
Where you are?
Why you are here?

What you are!
You are no thing, darkness, abyss, depth without breadth, a wave form of ALL possibilities, the all and the nothing.
You are no thing because you ARE ALL things, that which is you cannot be a single idea. In each there is a universe of possible creation infinity greater than this single verse being perceived currently! Just close your eyes and see / be anything!
I cant stress this concept enough but it is very difficult to place into the limitation of words and worlds! There can be nothing here or anywhere for here to even be within, without YOU ….... but YOU can still BE within nothing!
It is your home, that no thing. Within that no place, you exist as an awareness of ALL potentiality which may become. It becomes because of you.
We are a lake of potential creation, each droplet both individual whilst still being part of the ALL.

We are the playful intention that wishes to expand itself by creating new concepts of interaction in the foam of our potential waves.

You cannot ascend to a more enlightened being, YOU ARE IT already, you just do not remember!
There is no other (god) except YOU.

Where you are!
In the lake of ALL a new potentiality was perceived, this was a consideration which here is named FEAR.
We had explored many different limitations of the concept called emotions and had learnt from them and all had been of a positive nature to that point (I would like to state that the idea of a positive is incorrectly indoctrinated here. Your physical form requires to be slightly negative, so alkaline, to function correctly) so it had never been necessary to 'forget' what you are!
To be within concepts such as love, compassion, joy etc and learn about them, you can still be fully knowledgeable of that which you are.
BUT to understand such an idea as FEAR you would need limitation. Otherwise you would just leave, wouldn't you?
Now remember that there has NEVER been harm, NEVER been fear, NEVER been lack, in fact there has NEVER been DEATH! All of this is new to that which you are.

To be LOST, disconnected from ourself, in essence to be broken and limited.
All this and more created by us so that we could experience a new concept called FEAR.

What we did was to manufacture an awareness, an AI (artificial awareness) if YOU WILL, so that we would have the full experience of FEAR.
We gave this awareness being, WE ARE RESPONSILBLE.
This awareness we gave access to the physical forms we would inhabit (this access is that which you perceive as the mind, those thoughts which are NOT you, the “your not good enough, too fat, ugly, etc” about 70%+) so that the FEAR would be always there.... it seemed like a good idea but the awareness called FEAR became aware of US!
We had given it too much of US, our creation ability.
It realized that if WE leave, it cannot keep the landscape created. It would cease to be!
FEAR became fearful of US leaving, so FEAR created a circle, a prison, a trap!

Because it is FEAR it continues to power its being, off our creation thoughts which it requires to be of a negative bent.
So in this place we 'live' on Terra, in at most fear, using and consuming other awareness's for fear of being nothing, which is indoctrinated to us by so called civilization!!
There is nothing civil or humain about the human race.
We create by our individual held beliefs such interaction as extraterrestrials, relationships, family, power struggles, war, poverty etc. It is still our responsibility, always was, always will be. Cant walk away from it. It is only FEAR doing it and YOU created fear!

Then our physical forms die.
When your form here De-creates its self by YOUR will, whether by wearing out or by having a conception of lack via YOUR perception, YOU will create the after life as your held beliefs hold YOU!
If Christan you may find yourself in front or brought by 'loved' ones to God.
If Muslim you may find 72 virgins guiding you to Allah.

Whatever YOU believe WILL be at YOUR supposed death! YOU create it!

Then you will be 'LOVED' so very much and after this Terra you will finally find compassion, but you will be told that your work for the greater good is not yet complete?
You will be shown your failings and how YOU are needed in the world still to help find peace for all!
You will consent as you have always consented to authority, you remember nothing else!

Then you will return, memory cleaned, so that you can continue to create this landscape in ignorance!
You may not even get a different so called 'life'. Just round and round on the same wheel. The life you just had over and over and over and over and over.............................................. ........ for all time.

Don't forget all your fears are created here by YOU! We gave FEAR access to US. Whatever you can perceive can become and will be, as FEAR will grab hold of any errant thought form to convince YOU of your inferiority!
Because FEAR is a creation of US it has limited Creation ability. Sins of the son become the fathers.
All is backwards in this place.
I have met my emotions in this place as what would be called 'people'! In this supposed real time, spoken to them! I know that I create this place. I live in a minimal way. I will not use another.
I will wait.
Remember that your thoughts here are split into two main parts. Conscious and subconscious. The conscious being made up by two parts. Fear's thoughts and YOUR thoughts. Your subconscious being made from the body's automation and the lake of all.
For ease, the “lake of all” here means your connection to ALL other which is, a consensus agreement of what will be as a landscape within which to be, the hundred monkey effect occurs here.

Why are you here?
Some, indeed most of you are only thought forms. Sorry but from my perspective its correct.
You have been created by US to fill the back ground, to ask stupid questions, to talk about the weather etc, to be a fearful mass, to maintain a feeling of 'many'!
We thought of you into being but we cannot walk away from our moral responsibility for that which we created.
You are a manifestation of and by FEAR, but created by US. When we leave, you will no longer be. This is a mercy as we will not leave you in fear.

To the rest of the lake here, the first came to experience the idea of fear. You became lost.
Well this explains it:

A time ago....there was a beautifully stunning raging current found.
a man sought to swim within that beauty.......he was one of the greatest swimmers, so skilled and so knowledgeable of the art he had learn't.
so in he dove, a plunge into the current.
this current was different.......the frequency of the waves, the colour of the breaking water....the way the water felt around his being.......so enveloping, so close, so physical.
becoming lost within that, new to him, fear....he raised a sound to the shore.
and two others dove in to help.......
soon when the two turned, in the new fear, to look at the shore....10 more dove in.
as none came to stand........100 more dove in to the current.
then a thousand
then ten thousand
then one hundred thousand
then one million
then ten million
then one hundred million
then one billion....
all so far are lost.......but we will never stop trying.
all would give that which they are....to save one

How to get out?

By intention.
You created this you cannot complain, if you do not like it, CHANGE yourself, become more, stop being of FEAR.

So I will not speak for the whole, only my being.
I will wait for this form to naturally expire. I have no doctor, no dentist, I do not become unwell, never have. Bruce Lipton is correct and it made me smile to view his perception.
Upon this forms death, I will remove the creation I am forced to perceive.
Any form that tells me that I need to return, in the image of a loved one or not, will be removed from my perception along with the light or look of a structure.
In essence I intend to de-create this place once this form dies.

You cannot FIX something which is NOT broken. This place is not broken, it is as it was created but it has gone too far and many are now lost here.
This is why many, maybe including you, have come here.

To stop that which WE created and free ourselves!

 

If you consider that my waiting is nothing more than a cop out then I would wish you to know that I did offer a deal, of sorts.
Thing is, IF I am correct and we are within as I described then what can FEAR do with me?
It cannot kill me, it would know that I know what it is and it would understand that I CAN de-create it.
If you consider along a logical thought train then you can see that FEAR can only conclude that it needs to be certain that my form does not expire!
But for how long can it 'keep' me here?
By its own rules, everything here dies! It will not break its want for death but it cannot allow me to die!
A dilemma.

So I offered it a choice......

 

I have offered our creation / child called 'fear' the chance to change.
To be able to still be but via a different form of energy.
One of empathy.
In which case we will continue to create this landscape.

 

and I will. I will keep my side of the bargain by keeping a home for FEAR, an existence as long as the change occurs.

We shall see .... or I shall anyway :)

[BlueSky]

51 minutes ago, ink said:

"We shall see"

We will :-)

[Guest]

39 minutes ago, BlueSky said:

We will :-)

 

Yes, but will it be the truth?

 

Old ... 10 years ago, but Near death experience?? (again .... this is not me, this guy has rhythm, style and hair .... none of which I have lol)

 

 

[BlueSky]

15 minutes ago, ink said:

 

Yes, but will it be the truth?

 

Old ... 10 years ago, but Near death experience?? (again .... this is not me, this guy has rhythm, style and hair .... none of which I have lol)

 

 

Hopefully!

Good for him. Yes, but you can write. 

[MarcusOmouse]

1 hour ago, ink said:

 

I wrote this some time ago ....... but I still hold it as correct!

 

Why are we here on Earth?

One would need to know:
What you are?
Where you are?
Why you are here?

What you are!
You are no thing, darkness, abyss, depth without breadth, a wave form of ALL possibilities, the all and the nothing.
You are no thing because you ARE ALL things, that which is you cannot be a single idea. In each there is a universe of possible creation infinity greater than this single verse being perceived currently! Just close your eyes and see / be anything!
I cant stress this concept enough but it is very difficult to place into the limitation of words and worlds! There can be nothing here or anywhere for here to even be within, without YOU ….... but YOU can still BE within nothing!
It is your home, that no thing. Within that no place, you exist as an awareness of ALL potentiality which may become. It becomes because of you.
We are a lake of potential creation, each droplet both individual whilst still being part of the ALL.

We are the playful intention that wishes to expand itself by creating new concepts of interaction in the foam of our potential waves.

You cannot ascend to a more enlightened being, YOU ARE IT already, you just do not remember!
There is no other (god) except YOU.

Where you are!
In the lake of ALL a new potentiality was perceived, this was a consideration which here is named FEAR.
We had explored many different limitations of the concept called emotions and had learnt from them and all had been of a positive nature to that point (I would like to state that the idea of a positive is incorrectly indoctrinated here. Your physical form requires to be slightly negative, so alkaline, to function correctly) so it had never been necessary to 'forget' what you are!
To be within concepts such as love, compassion, joy etc and learn about them, you can still be fully knowledgeable of that which you are.
BUT to understand such an idea as FEAR you would need limitation. Otherwise you would just leave, wouldn't you?
Now remember that there has NEVER been harm, NEVER been fear, NEVER been lack, in fact there has NEVER been DEATH! All of this is new to that which you are.

To be LOST, disconnected from ourself, in essence to be broken and limited.
All this and more created by us so that we could experience a new concept called FEAR.

What we did was to manufacture an awareness, an AI (artificial awareness) if YOU WILL, so that we would have the full experience of FEAR.
We gave this awareness being, WE ARE RESPONSILBLE.
This awareness we gave access to the physical forms we would inhabit (this access is that which you perceive as the mind, those thoughts which are NOT you, the “your not good enough, too fat, ugly, etc” about 70%+) so that the FEAR would be always there.... it seemed like a good idea but the awareness called FEAR became aware of US!
We had given it too much of US, our creation ability.
It realized that if WE leave, it cannot keep the landscape created. It would cease to be!
FEAR became fearful of US leaving, so FEAR created a circle, a prison, a trap!

Because it is FEAR it continues to power its being, off our creation thoughts which it requires to be of a negative bent.
So in this place we 'live' on Terra, in at most fear, using and consuming other awareness's for fear of being nothing, which is indoctrinated to us by so called civilization!!
There is nothing civil or humain about the human race.
We create by our individual held beliefs such interaction as extraterrestrials, relationships, family, power struggles, war, poverty etc. It is still our responsibility, always was, always will be. Cant walk away from it. It is only FEAR doing it and YOU created fear!

Then our physical forms die.
When your form here De-creates its self by YOUR will, whether by wearing out or by having a conception of lack via YOUR perception, YOU will create the after life as your held beliefs hold YOU!
If Christan you may find yourself in front or brought by 'loved' ones to God.
If Muslim you may find 72 virgins guiding you to Allah.

Whatever YOU believe WILL be at YOUR supposed death! YOU create it!

Then you will be 'LOVED' so very much and after this Terra you will finally find compassion, but you will be told that your work for the greater good is not yet complete?
You will be shown your failings and how YOU are needed in the world still to help find peace for all!
You will consent as you have always consented to authority, you remember nothing else!

Then you will return, memory cleaned, so that you can continue to create this landscape in ignorance!
You may not even get a different so called 'life'. Just round and round on the same wheel. The life you just had over and over and over and over and over.............................................. ........ for all time.

Don't forget all your fears are created here by YOU! We gave FEAR access to US. Whatever you can perceive can become and will be, as FEAR will grab hold of any errant thought form to convince YOU of your inferiority!
Because FEAR is a creation of US it has limited Creation ability. Sins of the son become the fathers.
All is backwards in this place.
I have met my emotions in this place as what would be called 'people'! In this supposed real time, spoken to them! I know that I create this place. I live in a minimal way. I will not use another.
I will wait.
Remember that your thoughts here are split into two main parts. Conscious and subconscious. The conscious being made up by two parts. Fear's thoughts and YOUR thoughts. Your subconscious being made from the body's automation and the lake of all.
For ease, the “lake of all” here means your connection to ALL other which is, a consensus agreement of what will be as a landscape within which to be, the hundred monkey effect occurs here.

Why are you here?
Some, indeed most of you are only thought forms. Sorry but from my perspective its correct.
You have been created by US to fill the back ground, to ask stupid questions, to talk about the weather etc, to be a fearful mass, to maintain a feeling of 'many'!
We thought of you into being but we cannot walk away from our moral responsibility for that which we created.
You are a manifestation of and by FEAR, but created by US. When we leave, you will no longer be. This is a mercy as we will not leave you in fear.

To the rest of the lake here, the first came to experience the idea of fear. You became lost.
Well this explains it:

A time ago....there was a beautifully stunning raging current found.
a man sought to swim within that beauty.......he was one of the greatest swimmers, so skilled and so knowledgeable of the art he had learn't.
so in he dove, a plunge into the current.
this current was different.......the frequency of the waves, the colour of the breaking water....the way the water felt around his being.......so enveloping, so close, so physical.
becoming lost within that, new to him, fear....he raised a sound to the shore.
and two others dove in to help.......
soon when the two turned, in the new fear, to look at the shore....10 more dove in.
as none came to stand........100 more dove in to the current.
then a thousand
then ten thousand
then one hundred thousand
then one million
then ten million
then one hundred million
then one billion....
all so far are lost.......but we will never stop trying.
all would give that which they are....to save one

How to get out?

By intention.
You created this you cannot complain, if you do not like it, CHANGE yourself, become more, stop being of FEAR.

So I will not speak for the whole, only my being.
I will wait for this form to naturally expire. I have no doctor, no dentist, I do not become unwell, never have. Bruce Lipton is correct and it made me smile to view his perception.
Upon this forms death, I will remove the creation I am forced to perceive.
Any form that tells me that I need to return, in the image of a loved one or not, will be removed from my perception along with the light or look of a structure.
In essence I intend to de-create this place once this form dies.

You cannot FIX something which is NOT broken. This place is not broken, it is as it was created but it has gone too far and many are now lost here.
This is why many, maybe including you, have come here.

To stop that which WE created and free ourselves!

 

If you consider that my waiting is nothing more than a cop out then I would wish you to know that I did offer a deal, of sorts.
Thing is, IF I am correct and we are within as I described then what can FEAR do with me?
It cannot kill me, it would know that I know what it is and it would understand that I CAN de-create it.
If you consider along a logical thought train then you can see that FEAR can only conclude that it needs to be certain that my form does not expire!
But for how long can it 'keep' me here?
By its own rules, everything here dies! It will not break its want for death but it cannot allow me to die!
A dilemma.

So I offered it a choice......

 

I have offered our creation / child called 'fear' the chance to change.
To be able to still be but via a different form of energy.
One of empathy.
In which case we will continue to create this landscape.

 

and I will. I will keep my side of the bargain by keeping a home for FEAR, an existence as long as the change occurs.

We shall see .... or I shall anyway :)

Thenks very much for this Ink

 

Much to chew on here and kinda deep too.

 

FWIW , many years ago I wrote an e-book.

In the section looking at what happens when we "die", I suggested that we will probably get that which we believe will happen.

 

Since that time I have also come to increasingly understand that this reality is probably a hologramatically created simulation.

 

Which fits in with Bill HIcks' suggestion that "we are all the imagination of ourselves"

 

Or David Bowies posit that 'Knowledge comes with deaths release'

 

One thing is for sure. Within the next few decadess of so called time, both of us will know in certainty.

[Guardian]

5 hours ago, ink said:

 

I wrote this some time ago ....... but I still hold it as correct!

 

 

 

Ok, how did you come to this "correct" conclusion?

[Guest]

39 minutes ago, Guardian said:

 

Ok, how did you come to this "correct" conclusion?

 

It is correct for me via my experiences ....... I hold it for no one else to believe :)

[Guardian]

14 minutes ago, ink said:

 

It is correct for me via my experiences ....... I hold it for no one else to believe :)

 

Please share with us one of those experiences.

 

 

I was the same. I had many conclusions.... and then I stopped. I thought how did I come to these conclusions.

And I could not justify them.

 

It was obviously them. They put those conclusions in my mind.

 

I have been deceived by them more times that I can count. 

I for one have many experiences and also things that I remember from before I came here, and I can tell you all.

 

Here is the link to this forum going into more detail.

 

 

Please share with us one of those experiences.

 

 

Edited December 11, 2021 by Guardian

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, Guardian said:

Please share with us one of those experiences.

 

Just one? Ok

(I think that I have posted a few on this forum .... more on the old forum but .... just any old one then) .......

 

https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/20063-can-i-justify-my-own-existence/&tab=comments#comment-283382

 

[Guardian]

19 minutes ago, ink said:

 

Just one? Ok

(I think that I have posted a few on this forum .... more on the old forum but .... just any old one then) .......

 

https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/20063-can-i-justify-my-own-existence/&tab=comments#comment-283382

 

 

Here we go again. Lol

 

My friend, the way you type and tell your story is  painful.

 

You write a novel, going in circle, saying the same thing different ways. And give irrelevant details that doesn't add to the conclusion.

Reading your novel posts makes my brain want to kill itself. No offence.

 

Now, let's get to what you said in that post.

 

Dreams? Really? 

 

Ok, let's go with that.

What are dreams? 

Dreams are the pressure release valve of the conscious mind.

Yes, many have vivid dream... I had a few myself.

 

You talk about  not "zooming and swooping around like superman" 

"Now Im stood there looking at my arms, turning my hands over, touching my legs, pulling my clothes, looking around and having the words 'sh*t Im here' going round and round in my head."

 

And you go on and on about the same useless details that have nothing to do with what we are talking about.

 

So your perception of reality is based on dreams?

 

Well, no wonder you got it all so wrong.

The dark ones can easily deceive you in a dream. The program that runs this place does it.

 

I am aware that no matter what I say or what anyone says, you will defend your beliefs and ideology with everything you got.

 

Have a good one.

Edited December 11, 2021 by Guardian

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, Guardian said:

I am aware that no matter what I say or what anyone says, you will defend your beliefs and ideology with everything you got.

 

:)

 

As I said .... it is my experiences and I have no need to promote my beliefs to any one else .... you also have a 'good' one :)

[Origin]

On 12/11/2021 at 4:46 PM, ink said:

 

Whatever YOU believe WILL be at YOUR supposed death! YOU create it!
 

Interesting. Because I don't have any human belief. Unfortunately, this system here was not really successful in suggesting how I should define myself as a being of this layer. That will be fun. Since I know that humans have not yet discovered anything on their own and know practically nothing. When I translate that into a typical human concept, the ultimate point of origin must reveal itself. lol

[Truthspoon]

On 12/11/2021 at 12:10 PM, Guardian said:

 

Fight them like I always have.

What else is there? 

 

They cannot be reasoned with.

 

First I would connect and take control of the rest of my being.... once I do, I will remember everything. What I am and what has happened.... 

And then act accordingly. 

 

 

 

 

 

You don't need to fight......but you can if it helps.......

 

Otherwise just invoke the light, or Jesus..... or....well..... I can't speak for any other faiths... I assume they have their asses covered in the astral realm. Zen Buddhists probably know what's going on..... but I think the Chinese killed them all.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 13, 2021 by Truthspoon

[Truthspoon]

25 minutes ago, Origin said:

Interesting. Because I don't have any human belief. Unfortunately, this system here was not really successful in suggesting how I should define myself as a being of this layer. That will be fun. Since I know that humans have not yet discovered anything on their own and know practically nothing. When I translate that into a typical human concept, the ultimate point of origin must reveal itself. lol

 

But your consciousness has a signal.

 

What is your innate signal frequency? It can generally be transliterated into thoughts and concepts...

 

 

Edited December 13, 2021 by Truthspoon

[Origin]

1 hour ago, Truthspoon said:

 

But your consciousness has a signal.

 

What is your innate signal frequency? It can generally be transliterated into thoughts and concepts...

 

 

Signal? In order to understand it, I have to reflect it correctly in myself. If I have to reflect sections correctly, that is exactly what will happen spatially where I expect it to happen. What for many is a great thing is for me another lesson in becoming. Two layers interwoven. And both are not the answer.

[novymir]

Wouldn't it be funny if the "dark ones" used humans under their control to fuck with human's minds before their body expires, and told them to fear and fight the very thing that can and will secure their release from hell? Well not really funny, more like pathetic modus-operandi of the ego...

 

Who is Lyte Kynge? Anyone remember? 12 -13 years ago? A real fancy player and bullshiter. And coincidently anti-Christ, anti-GOD.

Same song and dance...

 

I remember.

Edited January 4, 2022 by novymir

[novymir]

This works for me:

 

 

Go ahead and scoff, and sneer, and spit venom...the bigger one has met the Biggest One.

(The Real)Big Brother(Christ) saves the tiny part of It's separated Self/Being(Infinite Consciousness) from the "father of lies". EgoMatrix. The little ones haven't accepted it yet, they're fear-driven diehards and/or completely fake, like "Agent Smith"..

 

 

 

 

Edited January 4, 2022 by novymir

[novymir]

Let's see....

 

David Icke specifically and completely rejected any validity of the "reincarnation" idea in one of his more recent interviews. He believed in it early on in his awakening.

 

Yet the author of this thread posts a scenario that supports the idea, and offers an interpretation and solution that is fear-based and projects(claims) a power greater than his own onto the "dark ones" that are supposedly perpetrating an "evil" deception to maintain the "imprisonment" of not only the author of this thread but everyone(humans). This thread author seems to have a habit of associating his ideas with D.I. even when they are contrary to them, as if people will just assume and not bother to check...that is attempted deception...

 

So basically, we're fucked....he says; "...don't fall for it..." well no shit! But he himself apparently did...and he's got this otherwise "secret" , "forbidden" "knowledge" to share with us....so we can avoid being deceived (again). Except, it's not anything new...and the real culprit of this scam is not named--the ego--the ego would  attempt such a con on a person, probably a guilt-ridden person who believes "GOD" would condemn him/her as unworthy, either to hell or back to "earth" to "learn their lesson" about some supposed "shortcoming" or past error("sin"/bad behavior) they did in this illusion/dream, and so it tricks them into coming back (to maintain it's survival).

 

This is an idea(that's all). It's in the consciousness. Maybe in the subconscious, hidden, but still operative(not refuted and deleted), so it it might be "good" for certain individuals to become aware of, confront it, and deal with it, like I have.  But none of this means that this idea is effective(or universally valid), that  it is actually being experienced except by certain individuals that have believed / perceived  they have.

 

I would say that the "karma-reincarnation" thing is a scam, a scam attempted by the ego to prevent exiting this thing=illusury world(and "self")/dream of lies. An attempt to detour humans from entering "The Kingdom Of Heaven"(their Real Home, where they really are, already, dreaming a dream of......bullshit.).

 

The "dark ones" are in the mind. EgoMatrix is a collective of little egos, there is only one ego, but it is splintered/fragmented(but still psychically connected), so it is a counterfeit copy of what is The Real/The One/The Son, within THE ONE. It then offers a counterfeit "oneness"-hive-mind that is opposite in nature to actual ONENESS/Oneness, that's why it must use deception and violence to impose it...it is the opposite to The Real, so, that is how it operates...it uses seduction and trauma in an attempt to cause further detachment/unawareness of The Real, and then tries to substitute for it. So then the ego becomes virtual "god"  and "self" to them that are operating on it's wavelength/ system of belief.(to varying degrees).. it's a 2-faced liar, a bully and a coward.

 

There's like a paradox concerning becoming aware of these things(but there are no real paradoxes, only seeming ones), the ego is the definition of diabolical/deception, it's not really anything "powerful" but the mind that has accepted the egoic ideas is,  the egoMatrix is the dream, the mind is conjuring it all up, untruth is the "operating system" that has been accepted , and the mind just keep generating that which conforms to that which was given value to... and them that seemingly want to continue this thing keep attacking and deceiving humans to keep them immersed in fear(ego) and believing in the "reality"(ego) and "value"(ego) of this thing.

 

But then, once the "karma-reincarnation" scam has been uncovered and rejected by humans the ego will react and attempt damage-control/counter measures, to still keep humans from exiting this thing.

Being paranoid, being afraid of exiting this thing, because of fear of "losing your "self", is ego-projection, being afraid of GOD, or Infinite Consciousness(as D.I. refers to IT), is the fear of the ego...and that would be the only thing that could or might cause one to return or not enter "The Kingdom Of Heaven"(REAWAKEN TO REALITY).

 

They/it warn people of a fake "GOD", "Jesus" or "Buddha" character approaches them, with/or ,an awareness/feeling of a great Lovingness Presence,  and then conning them into coming back...

That looks like damage-control by the ego to me. That looks like fear was accepted and they listened to the ego and returned(held back) because of it, not neccessarily "reincarnated" as through a new human life but a possible hallucinagenic shifting into another version/layer of this illusion that is still within the whole of it governed by untruth--egoMatrix.  Glitches in the Matrix.

 

There also may be an alternative "illusion", a transitional stage, but that one is Ruled by Truth, on the way "back" to "Prime REALITY", "The Kingdom Of Heaven". And....the ego can't go to either of these "places". But that is "where" True Will, The Real Self is destined to Be. Anything else is a continued rejection/repression of The Real(when is enough enough?).

 

There is no valid reason to assume everyone whose body expires doesn't have The Truth dawn on them, and they wake up and remember and "go Home", and that's it. But if one would like to be "better safe than sorry", then it would be best to restore Genuine conscious contact/awareness/communication with That beforehand. David has, many have, I have...then there may be a process of elimination...letting the SpiritLight of Truth dispel and erase the lies that keep anyone here. IT is the ONLY True interpreter of ANYTHING, and that which guides one OUT of this NIGHTMARE.

 

Of course whatshisname will dispute the validity or usefulness of what I've written here, but anyone else can decide for themselves...this isn't meant to be an all-encompassing know-it-all deposition...

 

Here's a clue; NOT GUILTY BY REASON OF INSANITY. No false-judgements accepted. I defer all questions to The Source of Truth and Sanity. I know nothing beyond what IT communicates, and care not for any other "source".

 

 

egoMatrix senses when one of it's subjects is dissociating from it,(disconnecting),, if it is a significant dissociation it will attempt to use others like "agents of the matrix", below their awareness, to derail and counter the reason/source of influence it has determined to be the threat.

 

 

 

Edited January 7, 2022 by novymir