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Just now, SoundOfSilence said:

Are you claiming that showing mercy is not forgiveness?

 

What I'm saying is that cabbalists and occultists hide knowledge from ordinary people. They don't go out and teach forgiveness to ordinary people, they hide their truths under a bushel. Jesus Christ preached and taught in the open to ordinary people about the importance of forgiveness, and he criticized the religious leaders for putting their lamp in the cellar where no one can see it. Again, please show me a sacred text from a Pagan religion that openly preaches or teaches forgiveness, thanks.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

What I'm saying is that cabbalists and occultists hide knowledge from ordinary people. They don't go out and teach forgiveness to ordinary people, they hide their truths under a bushel. Jesus Christ preached and taught in the open to ordinary people about the importance of forgiveness, and he criticized the religious leaders for putting their lamp in the cellar where no one can see it. Again, please show me a sacred text from a Pagan religion that openly preaches or teaches forgiveness, thanks.

 

 

So you're just going to dodge my point and repeat yours.

 

But I will infer from your answer that you do not regard showing mercy to be the same forgiveness. Though I don't know how you feel this can be justified.

 

Do you think homosexuals should be stoned to death?

 

Do you think a man should be killed for gathering firewood on the Sabbath?

 

Because none of these things are in what you refer to as pagan texts. But they are in Christian texts.

 

But if you don't do these things, or don't believe it is right to do them, why not?

 

And if you don't do these things you are just cherry picking. Which is fine.

 

But then to do so means that morality is innate. In which case your books cannot claim to be any more moral than any others. Because it is the individual that interprets the teachings and decides which to follow.

 

By the way the Kybalion that you mentioned earlier mandates showing respect to all religions.

 

Not waging war on them. As they seem to do to each other. Seems to be rather unforgiving to me.

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Wednesday, 3 February 2016

Bowie Still Dead! What Now for the Future of Humanity?

 
 
Weaponised popstars: Special Report. 
World still in throes of post-Bowie crisis.

 
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A Thin White Hidden Hand.
 
 
Governments around the world have convened top secret meetings in order to find a response to the growing feeling of hopelessness which the death of David Bowie has caused to grief stricken culture fools everywhere.

People have been reportedly failing to turn up at work and calling in sick with Bowie-Blues. Some have been phoning into drive-time radio shows asking Simon Mayo 'what's it all about? You're a Christian TELL ME' then crying and telling Simon that they miss Bowie. One caller said 'Things made sense with Bowie here. Now we're all stuck with Lady Gaga.'

Pushing through the market square, our reporter noticed that there were so many mothers sighing. One man we spoke to immediately told us how sad he was about Bowie's death, he cried so much his face was wet, then I knew he was not lying. Meanwhile in America Bowie man Michael Paul Weiand burned down his own house in grief, four days before Bowie even died, such was the uncanny prescience of his despair.
 
 
 
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Two people who must now bravely seek for new meaning for their lives, in the post-Bowie wasteland.
 
 
The situation was exacerbated by Bowie's howling scream of wild undignified terror at his impending death, which he recorded and released as the album Back-Stair.

Upon exposure to the material people have reportedly immediately started to feel unwell and confused. One lady, a Bowie fan from Scunthorpe went to her Doctor suffering from heart palpitations and nervous diarrhea, and after a stool sample came back clean, other triggers of possible allergens where investigated until it was discovered that the attack was triggered every time she tried to sit down and watch the video for Lazarus on Youtube.
 

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Bowie was once a normal human being called David Jones who had spots and a bad haircut. David's greatest dream was to be spot-free and be liked by girls and boys, and by good fortune he met a vampire of the ancient bloodline Black Nobility Count Tony Visconti who had been summoned from the infernal realms of New York where he had been living as an Illuminati Vampire since the 18th century, to help spotty young people become sexy but confused pop-star servants of Satan.
 
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The Heraldic Shield of the Visconti Black Nobility: Satan Eating a sexy bare-chested Popstar.
 
 
Tony Visconti had also helped Bowie's friend Marc Bolan to lose his spots and also be attractive to boys and girls, but Bolan's lease on the magickal OTO high-life was cut short by a dopey girlfriend who couldn't drive, and a tree which didn't like him.

After a long and fruitful working relationship which spanned the decades, Visconti had visited Bowie and was surprised to see that Bowie was bald and had no eyebrows, initially Visconti was delighted thinking it was a new character, a cross between Ziggy Stardust and the Man who Fell to Earth, then Bowie revealed that he had been undergoing chemotherapy for treatment of a secret cancer and Visconti felt a bit silly for a moment, then he initiated Bowie into the final mystery of Black Nobility OTO Vampires and it was this mystery which led Bowie to write the howling desolate dirge of Back Stair.

Bowie was also famous for his promotion of drugs, sometimes appearing on TV blasted out of his box. The country of Columbia held a day of national mourning for a hero of the Columbian people whose cocaine habit single-handedly fueled the growth in Columbia's economy throughout the 70's and 80's. The people of Columbia owned shares in David Bowie, since he was obliged to incorporate himself as a limited company and sell shares of himself in order to pay for his cocaine habit, and they recently received what is to be their final dividend.
 
 
 


Bowie quit Cocaine in the 80's because he complained that his head no longer worked properly and this led to the economy of Colombia entering a period of sustained stagnation and recession but also the freeing up of vast CIA resources which had previously been fully engaged in keeping Bowie stocked with vast quantities of the drug. 

At one point the construction of a vast pan-American cocaine pipeline blowing a constant stream of Lady Stardust directly into Bowie's LA home, had been mooted, but Bowie decided to move out of LA to move to Berlin and become a smack Nazi.

The CIA became alarmed that Bowie had left the United States, and sought desperately for a way to stay friends with him, and discovering Bowie's new penchant for heroin the CIA decided to covertly create a Muslim terrorist organisation called The Mujahideen, which would allow them to control the poppy fields of Afghanistan, and thus keep Bowie and his druggy friends in happy land.

Bowie's surprise sudden departure from 3rd density Earth comes after reportedly losing a battle with a super sneaky cheeky secret cancer which some celebrity OTO insiders believe may have entered Bowie's body some time in the 70's when arch-mortal-enemy Jimmy Page reportedly sent a secret army of underage virgin hippy girls to sleep with Bowie and try to steal his smoked cigarette butts. 



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Underage sex? Shhhh keep it a secret.
 
 
Bowie slept with the girls losing count of how many he got through, but always kept count of how many cigarettes he smoked, and late into the night he would consult a detailed ledger which he would assiduously spend hours in the early morning keeping up to date, counting out the thousands of numbered fag-butts and matching them up with the records in the book. 

Due to Bowie's fanatical fear of psychic attack and his cigarette butts falling into the wrong hands, it is not thought that he caught the cancer from the action of astral magic on a lost cigarette butt, though it is quite possible that Bowie may have unknowingly ingested magickally cursed Cocaine.

Bowie lost his cancer battle due to a series of unfortunate events. Bowie's lease deal with the OTO was reportedly up for renewal, assuring him at least another 20 chic and quietly stylish years, as per the infernal contract. However Aleister Crowley's Boleskine mansion was burned down to the ground by the Black Arts division of The Mormons leaving Crowley unavailable for contact and unable to intercede between Bowie and the great demon Satan who really wasn't much of a Bowie fan anyway, preferring by far, the more accessible singalong sound of Ray Davies and The Kinks who are still going strong.


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1 minute ago, SoundOfSilence said:

So you're just going to dodge my point and repeat yours.

 

But I will infer from your answer that you do not regard showing mercy to be the same forgiveness. Though I don't know how you feel this can be justified.

 

Do you think homosexuals should be stoned to death?

 

Do you think a man should be killed for gathering firewood on the Sabbath?

 

Because none of these things are in what you refer to as pagan texts. But they are in Christian texts.

 

But if you don't do these things, or don't believe it is right to do them, why not?

 

And if you don't do these things you are just cherry picking. Which is fine.

 

But then to do so means that morality is innate. In which case your books cannot claim to be any more moral than any others. Because it is the individual that interprets the teachings and decides which to follow.

 

By the way the Kybalion that you mentioned earlier mandates showing respect to all religions.

 

Not waging war on them. As they seem to do to each other. Seems to be rather unforgiving to me.

 

I said there's nothing that teaches forgiveness. I know that it's in the Kabbalah and comes under the concept of mercy, but Cabbalists regard their knowledge as secret, for initiated eyes only. It's a secret religion. The spirit of what I'm saying, is that forgiveness is something that JC preached and taught openly about. He didn't hide his truth under a bushel. He defended a woman that was about to be stoned to death. He said, let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Of course, the Jewish religion had a harsh set of laws, and forgiveness of sins didn't feature, but Jesus Christ came and introduced a new Covenant based on love and forgiveness of sins, but when the Jewish religious leaders heard about it, they hated him and wanted him put to death.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

I said there's nothing that teaches forgiveness. I know that it's in the Kabbalah and comes under the concept of mercy, but Cabbalists regard their knowledge as secret, for initiated eyes only. It's a secret religion. The spirit of what I'm saying, is that forgiveness is something that JC preached and taught openly about.

 

So they're immoral for not proselytizing? 

 

7 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

 

He didn't hide his truth under a bushel. He defended a woman that was about to be stoned to death. He said, let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Of course, the Jewish religion had a harsh set of laws, and forgiveness of sins didn't feature, but Jesus Christ came and introduced a new Covenant based on love and forgiveness of sins, but when the Jewish religious leaders heard about it, they hated him and wanted him put to death.

 

 

 

Not true. He said he was not here to overturn the old law.

 

But if you're going to to just ignore points and constrain the area of discussion to a narrow bandwidth just to win an argument there is really no need.

 

You win.

 

Congratulations.

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21 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

 

So they're immoral for not proselytizing? 

 

Jesus Christ didn't say that his opposition was immoral for hiding their secret religion, he said that his way was to teach things in the open, and to reveal the light, not hide it where it can't be seen. He was simply demonstrating a different path could be taken, an alternative to keeping things hidden.

 

21 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

 

Not true. He said he was not here to overturn the old law.

 

 

What Christ dispensed with was the judicial rule of the earthly nation of Israel. This new situation is confirmed in the New Testament, in the book of Hebrews:

 

"But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, and it is founded on better promises. [...] For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. But God found fault with the people and said: "The time is coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. It will not be like the covenant I made with their forefathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they did not remain faithful to my covenant, and I turned away from them, declares the Lord. This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time, declares the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. No longer will a man teach his neighbour, or a man his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord', because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest. For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more." (Hebrews 8:6 & 9:1)

 

By calling this covenant "new", God and Christ made the first one obsolete. 

 

Galatians 3 and the first 10 chapters of Hebrews (particularly chapters 8-10) make it very clear that the laws that foreshadowed the need for and the fulfilment of the work of Christ are no longer to be observed because their fulfilment by Christ, and in Christ, has made them obsolete. That's why Christ could say he fulfilled the Law of Moses, rather than abolished it.

 

The civil laws (or judicial laws) no longer apply because they were specific to Israel as a nation.

 

The old covenant, or Mosaic covenant, is pointing toward, instructive for, but obsolete because of the new covenant in Christ.

 

Jesus Christ has now transformed the people of God, from a particular national people, to a people of "every nation, tribe, people and language" (Revelation 7:9).

 

Christ, with his new Covenant, opened up the Way for non-Jews to achieve salvation. Christ opened up the Way, not only for Jews, which had hitherto been the case, but also for all gentiles.

 

21 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

But if you're going to to just ignore points and constrain the area of discussion to a narrow bandwidth just to win an argument there is really no need.

 

You win.

 

Congratulations.

 

I'm not ignoring your points because I think you have a different idea to the one I originally made. It's not about winning or competing, it's about sharing ideas.

 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

I'm not ignoring your points because I think you have a different idea to the one I originally made. It's not about winning or competing, it's about sharing ideas.

 

Well, I've shared my ideas.

 

You stated that the mystery schools didn't teach forgiveness. I pointed out where they did.

 

You said it didn't count because it wasn't done in public. An unusual demand to make of a secret society I might add.

 

But okay. You're right. They don't.

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2 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

Well, I've shared my ideas.

 

You stated that the mystery schools didn't teach forgiveness. I pointed out where they did.

 

You said it didn't count because it wasn't done in public. An unusual demand to make of a secret society I might add.

 

But okay. You're right. They don't.

 

Apologies for not being clearer originally. I suppose Jesus Christ did make an unusual demand on those he said were not shining their light, but I can't find fault with the spirit of what he was trying to get across. I never thought of his demand as being 'unusual' before, but it's an interesting observation now that you mention it. I always regarded his parable about the light and the bushel as a natural way of thinking, so when I first came across JC saying that, it just resonated with my vibe about the need to be open.

 

 

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@SoundOfSilence Just a question, I hope you don't mind me asking, but in some of your posts you've mentioned Hollywood. Do you believe Freemasonry played a role in Hollywood's demise? I think that's what you've said in the past, I'm not sure, so if you could please clarify, as I don't want to be mistaken or make false assumptions about what you've posted, thanks.

 

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6 hours ago, SoundOfSilence said:

Do you think Adrian (M-G-M's costume designer) changed the shoes to Ruby because of the look in technicolor?

 

I think your analysis was repeated in a documentary. I forget the film maker. He also made the film about Obama's father being Frank Marshall Davies. I think he may have analyzed it to the 1930s depression. Which makes no sense given the book was written in 1900. But it's been years since I saw it so I may have not recalled correctly.

 

I know the book and film get associated with MK Ultra.

 

Clearly nothing to do with their content.

 

But altars can be recalled through color association. So it is a strong reinforcement tool while the programming is being carried out.

 

 

They were, indeed, changed to ruby, as the silver slippers (shoes) did not "pop" off the screen as the ruby ones. The Wizard of Oz was one of the earliest Technicolor films made.

 

Upon release of the original novel, most understood the analogies I had mentioned previously, so they have been written about many times before by others.

 

The film didn't do that well at the box offices and only really gained ground many years later when it was shown on television. Gained a cult following, you could say. Some art work takes time to be properly appreciated (*cough cough* like The King Kitty Band)The holiday favorite, "It's a Wonderful Life" did poorly at the box office upon it's release.

 

The book has been a dissected by many since it's release with various political interpretations. Prior to the Great Depression, it was also linked to the 19th Century Populist Movement. It's ties to MK Ultra is just speculation from conspiracy theorist, since the novel and movie have no ties to that program. Kind of like the Pink Floyd album, "Dark Side of the Moon" syncing up with the movie. I've tried viewing the movie as synced with the album and found it to be a bit of a stretch. 

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4 minutes ago, KingKitty said:

 

Kind of like the Pink Floyd album, "Dark Side of the Moon" syncing up with the movie. I've tried viewing the movie as synced with the album and found it to be a bit of a stretch. 

 

 

That's interesting. There a number of version of The Dark Side of the Rainbow, not all of them convincing or good... perhaps you watched a version where the film was poorly synchronised with the Pink Floyd soundtrack?

 

 

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6 minutes ago, KingKitty said:

They were, indeed, changed to ruby, as the silver slippers (shoes) did not "pop" off the screen as the ruby ones. The Wizard of Oz was one of the earliest Technicolor films made.

 

Robin Hood (Errol Flynn and Olivia de Havilland) must be close to being earliest.

 

They did have color in the silent era too. Either tinting or there was a two color process. I think the Black Pirate was in color. But no three color process.

 

6 minutes ago, KingKitty said:

 

Upon release of the original novel, most understood the analogies I had mentioned previously, so they have been written about many times before by others.

 

The film didn't do that well at the box offices and only really gained ground many years later when it was shown on television.

 

I thought it was rereleased 10 years later and it did better then. But I may have made that up.

 

There were a few films like that. Flopped at the box office to become appreciated years later. Bringing up Baby springs to mind.

 

If you haven't seen it. Hilarious!

 

6 minutes ago, KingKitty said:

 

 

Gained a cult following, you could say. Some art work takes time to be properly appreciated (*cough cough* like The King Kitty Band)The holiday favorite, "It's a Wonderful Life" did poorly at the box office upon it's release.

 

It's a good film. 

 

6 minutes ago, KingKitty said:

 

The book has been a dissected by many since it's release with various political interpretations. Prior to the Great Depression, it was also linked to the 19th Century Populist Movement. It's ties to MK Ultra is just speculation from conspiracy theorist, since the novel and movie have no ties to that program. Kind of like the Pink Floyd album, "Dark Side of the Moon" syncing up with the movie. I've tried viewing the movie as synced with the album and found it to be a bit of a stretch. 

I've heard you hit play at the third roar.

 

When Dorothy's house get lifted it coincides with Great Gig in the Sky. That bit works quite well.

 

Follow the Yellow Brick Road coincides with Money.

 

But the album stops too soon. Obviously.

 

Someone I was involved with (I don't want to reveal too much) bought a first edition of the novel for someone. I knew about its mind control implications at the time. And I thought it was an unusual gift. But I dismissed it.

 

But events transpired whereby I think I should have taken it a bit more seriously.

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When I first came across the claim that Dark Side of the Moon syncs up with the movie, I thought, how can that be? How can it be when the album is much shorted than the film, but if the album is played on repeat, there are still many places in the soundtrack where the soundtrack syncs with the film.

 

 

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29 minutes ago, RobSS said:

@SoundOfSilence Just a question, I hope you don't mind me asking, but in some of your posts you've mentioned Hollywood. Do you believe Freemasonry played a role in Hollywood's demise? I think that's what you've said in the past, I'm not sure, so if you could please clarify, as I don't want to be mistaken or make false assumptions about what you've posted, thanks.

 

Of course I don't mind you asking.

 

I recall posting a question asking if anyone had any information as to when Hollywood was first infiltrated.

 

Not necessarily by Masons, but any dark sinister forces. I have also made a couple of posts using films as examples.

 

It's an interesting point as to when that happened. I have looked into it but didn't find anything definitive.

 

As you may know, Hollywood used to be very conservative. Especially in the Golden Age. And nothing I have seen in early films indicates that there is any mind control agenda. I am usually quite good at picking up on bad energy and I don't get it watching old movies. Totally different vibe to today's Hollywood.

 

I couldn't imagine the Chicoms getting a very favorable response from Louis B. Mayer if they asked him to censor a film. He was very patriotic.

 

Sure there were a couple of scandals in the early years, but they were the sort of thing that can strike any walk of life. They weren't all having spirit cooking dinners.

 

So to not really answer your question, I don't know exactly.

 

As for Freemasonry. My position is that it has been infiltrated like other positions of control. Of course there could be Masons running Hollywood. And they could be very evil. But I don't think they are at the top of the pyramid. They are not setting the agenda. If you know what I mean.

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Just now, SoundOfSilence said:

Of course I don't mind you asking.

 

I recall posting a question asking if anyone had any information as to when Hollywood was first infiltrated.

 

Not necessarily by Masons, but any dark sinister forces. I have also made a couple of posts using films as examples.

 

It's an interesting point as to when that happened. I have looked into it but didn't find anything definitive.

 

As you may know, Hollywood used to be very conservative. Especially in the Golden Age. And nothing I have seen in early films indicates that there is any mind control agenda. I am usually quite good at picking up on bad energy and I don't get it watching old movies. Totally different vibe to today's Hollywood.

 

I couldn't imagine the Chicoms getting a very favorable response from Louis B. Mayer if they asked him to censor a film. He was very patriotic.

 

Sure there were a couple of scandals in the early years, but they were the sort of thing that can strike any walk of life. They weren't all having spirit cooking dinners.

 

So to not really answer your question, I don't know exactly.

 

As for Freemasonry. My position is that it has been infiltrated like other positions of control. Of course there could be Masons running Hollywood. And they could be very evil. But I don't think they are at the top of the pyramid. They are not setting the agenda. If you know what I mean.

 

I'm willing to keep an open mind that there is a part of Freemasonry that is gentle and kind and desiring only the best for humanity. I truly hope that is the case, but we do have to deal with the reality that there is a darker force that infiltrates. Even George Washington wrote a letter to that effect, which can still be viewed in the official archives.

 

Regarding Hollywood, it's been a long time since I did the research, but if I recall correctly, the first Oscar ceremonies took place in a masonic Temple. If you're interested, I can dig into my research and share more, or you can look into yourself. That's so easy to do nowadays. When I initially did the research, it wasn't always to easy.

 

If Hollywood was controlled by the Freemasons from the start, or even created by them, then it must've been a Freemasonry that was more benign.

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

 

 

As for Freemasonry. My position is that it has been infiltrated like other positions of control. Of course there could be Masons running Hollywood. And they could be very evil. But I don't think they are at the top of the pyramid. They are not setting the agenda. If you know what I mean.

 

If you're going to say that then I assume you have a thesis who is at the top of the pyramid?

 

Freemasonry is only a proxy for the Jews...... after all.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

I'm willing to keep an open mind that there is a part of Freemasonry that is gentle and kind and desiring only the best for humanity. I truly hope that is the case, but we do have to deal with the reality that there is a darker force that infiltrates. Even George Washington wrote a letter to that effect, which can still be viewed in the official archives.

 

I think at the top levels that optimism may be misplaced.

 

But at the lower ranks I suspect most Masons haven't got a clue. They go in it for a bit of networking. Perform a few rituals having no idea of what they represent.

 

I have heard as they progress they are offered a choice. If they take the moral option they are congratulated and told they made the right decision. But they do not advance any further.

 

I thought Washington's letter was against the Bavarian Illuminati. But it's been a while and I am happy to be corrected.

 

2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

Regarding Hollywood, it's been a long time since I did the research, but if I recall correctly, the first Oscar ceremonies took place in a masonic Temple. If you're interested, I can dig into my research and share more, or you can look into yourself. That's so easy to do nowadays. When I initially did the research, it wasn't always to easy.

 

I think they were at the Roosevelt Hotel. No idea if it functions as a temple as well.

 

2 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

If Hollywood was controlled by the Freemasons from the start, or even created by them, then it must've been a Freemasonry that was more benign.

 

 

 

 

I think even in those days Masonry was largely gone already.

 

The infiltration of Masonry took place around the French Revolution.

 

Hollywood grew organically. Film producers left the East Coast because they didn't have to pay Edison his royalties. There was a mix of independents and growing studios.

 

If Hollywood was infiltrated then it must have been treated as more of a cash cow. Or maybe they were waiting to grow the business.

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14 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

 

I think at the top levels that optimism may be misplaced.

 

But at the lower ranks I suspect most Masons haven't got a clue. They go in it for a bit of networking. Perform a few rituals having no idea of what they represent.

 

Not any more. May have been the case in the 1950's but Masonic recruitment is radically different to what it used to be.

 

Why do you think there are all these scandals with CNN producers and underage children?

 

Even as a TEFL teacher abroad I encountered Freemasons 'offering' underage children....14 15 year old girls...even boys for God's sakes... never appealed to me...so I never joined... but they offered that up as if it was something I would be interested in... Blew my mind that they would even think like that....who would be into that? Boggles the mind....  

 

It's all been documented on my blog and the relevant organisations named and shamed.....but one of them is connected to the US State Department.....and their activity abroad.. they actually have previous on this too.

 

https://www.truthspoon.com/search/label/Human trafficking Morocco

 

 

Joining Freemasonry now from my experience seems to revolve around compromising yourself with paedophilia....

 

 

 

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59 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

That's interesting. There a number of version of The Dark Side of the Rainbow, not all of them convincing or good... perhaps you watched a version where the film was poorly synchronised with the Pink Floyd soundtrack?

 

 

I had seen the "good" version. I still think it's an idea which was inspired from a bong. 

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Just now, SoundOfSilence said:

 

I think at the top levels that optimism may be misplaced.

 

But at the lower ranks I suspect most Masons haven't got a clue. They go in it for a bit of networking. Perform a few rituals having no idea of what they represent.

 

I have heard as they progress they are offered a choice. If they take the moral option they are congratulated and told they made the right decision. But they do not advance any further.

 

I thought Washington's letter was against the Bavarian Illuminati. But it's been a while and I am happy to be corrected.

 

 

I think they were at the Roosevelt Hotel. No idea if it functions as a temple as well.

 

 

I think even in those days Masonry was largely gone already.

 

The infiltration of Masonry took place around the French Revolution.

 

Hollywood grew organically. Film producers left the East Coast because they didn't have to pay Edison his royalties. There was a mix of independents and growing studios.

 

If Hollywood was infiltrated then it must have been treated as more of a cash cow. Or maybe they were waiting to grow the business.

 

I agree that there are lower level masons who are motivated by gentleness and kindness. I've met many who came across that way in everyday life. I've found some masons to be very friendly, courteous and kind. Some of these people don't have a clue, and others, when they find out, they leave. Oliver Hardy was a Freemason (some of the biggest names in the golden age of show business were Masons). I think Oliver Hardy was a good person. He didn't leave the craft but he and Stan Laurel did like to make fun of it, hence one of their best films, "Sons of the Desert" (1933)!

 

Regarding Washington's letter, yes, he was concerned that Freemasonry had been infiltrated by the Bavarian Illuminati.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, KingKitty said:

I had seen the "good" version. I still think it's an idea which was inspired from a bong. 

 

The version I watched appeared to be much more convincing. I'll post it as a holiday special thread on the entertainment forum!

 

 

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17 minutes ago, RobSS said:

 

I agree that there are lower level masons who are motivated by gentleness and kindness. I've met many who came across that way in everyday life. I've found some masons to be very friendly, courteous and kind. Some of these people don't have a clue, and others, when they find out, they leave. Oliver Hardy was a Freemason (some of the biggest names in the golden age of show business were Masons). I think Oliver Hardy was a good person. He didn't leave the craft but he and Stan Laurel did like to make fun of it, hence one of their best films, "Sons of the Desert" (1933)!

 

Regarding Washington's letter, yes, he was concerned that Freemasonry had been infiltrated by the Bavarian Illuminati.

 

 

 

You're hopelessly out of date.... Oliver Hardy..pffttttttt.

 

You clearly have no understanding of the reality of modern Freemasonry and its recruitment.

 

They used to compromise people with homosexuality....because that used to be something they could blackmail someone over and make them keep their secrets.


Now that homosexuality is no longer taboo they use underage children as an incitement/inducement to join.

 

I've written all about my personal encounters with this mean of recruitment. 

 

Oliver Hardy...pftttt.

 

You know nothing Jon Snow.

 

https://www.truthspoon.com/search/label/Human trafficking Morocco

 

 

 

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51 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

 

Robin Hood (Errol Flynn and Olivia de Havilland) must be close to being earliest.

 

They did have color in the silent era too. Either tinting or there was a two color process. I think the Black Pirate was in color. But no three color process.

 

 

I thought it was rereleased 10 years later and it did better then. But I may have made that up.

 

There were a few films like that. Flopped at the box office to become appreciated years later. Bringing up Baby springs to mind.

 

If you haven't seen it. Hilarious!

 

 

It's a good film. 

 

I've heard you hit play at the third roar.

 

When Dorothy's house get lifted it coincides with Great Gig in the Sky. That bit works quite well.

 

Follow the Yellow Brick Road coincides with Money.

 

But the album stops too soon. Obviously.

 

Someone I was involved with (I don't want to reveal too much) bought a first edition of the novel for someone. I knew about its mind control implications at the time. And I thought it was an unusual gift. But I dismissed it.

 

But events transpired whereby I think I should have taken it a bit more seriously.

Color movies and Technicolor movies are different. 

 

Yes, it started to gain more of a fan base when it was re-released at the theaters, but it was it's television release that made it a super star. 

 

"Bringing Up Baby" is easily one of my top ten favorite movies of all time. But, I love anything Cary Grant. Cary Grant enjoyed taking LSD a great deal. He made Jim Morrison look like an novice.

 

I still think the Pink Floyd connection is bollocks. Chalk it up to synchronicity. Well, that and bong hits.

 

Again, remember, the album was released before CD's and DVD's. An album has to be flipped over in order to play the second side. For Pink Floyd to have spent valuable studio time ($) tinkering around with their album to make sure it synced up to some MGM movie musical would make as much sense as wearing a chin diaper to keep from getting Covid.

 

A lot of times, if one is looking for something, they will find it, even if it isn't there.

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Just now, Truthspoon said:

 

You're hopelessly out of date.... Oliver Hardy..pffttttttt.

 

You clearly have no understanding of the reality of modern Freemasonry and its recruitment.

 

They used to compromise people with homosexuality....because that used to be something they could blackmail someone over and make them keep their secrets.


Now that homosexuality is no longer taboo they use underage children as an incitement/inducement to join.

 

I've written all about my personal encounters with this mean of recruitment. 

 

Oliver Hardy...pftttt.

 

You know nothing Jon Snow.

 

https://www.truthspoon.com/search/label/Human trafficking Morocco

 

 

 

 

You know nothing because there were no facts or anything of substance in your post.

 

"they use underage children as an incitement/inducement to join" <--- it may be true for some but every single one? I don't think so, but you do like to tar whole groups of people with the same broad brush stroke, whether they be brown people, Jews or whoever you happen to be trying to denigrate at the time, trying to make yourself look whiter than white, and holier than thou!

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, KingKitty said:

Color movies and Technicolor movies are different. 

 

Yes, it started to gain more of a fan base when it was re-released at the theaters, but it was it's television release that made it a super star. 

 

"Bringing Up Baby" is easily one of my top ten favorite movies of all time. But, I love anything Cary Grant. Cary Grant enjoyed taking LSD a great deal. He made Jim Morrison look like an novice.

 

I still think the Pink Floyd connection is bollocks. Chalk it up to synchronicity. Well, that and bong hits.

 

Again, remember, the album was released before CD's and DVD's. An album has to be flipped over in order to play the second side. For Pink Floyd to have spent valuable studio time ($) tinkering around with their album to make sure it synced up to some MGM movie musical would make as much sense as wearing a chin diaper to keep from getting Covid.

 

A lot of times, if one is looking for something, they will find it, even if it isn't there.

 

It's probable they didn't set out to write an alternative track for TWoO, and they have denied doing so, but the synchronicity in the film that I watched was remarkable. Maybe it's down to hidden forces at work? Who knows where creative forces come from or how other dimensional beings may sometimes amuse themselves! lol

 

 

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