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In David Icke's recent videos he goes into detail that the conspiracy is and was (in general) to entrap human perception in the five senses, in turn disconnecting human perception from the influence of expanded infinite awareness. 

 

This is correct, yet I will try to explain it from a different perspective: Real and Unreal, Life and Death.

 

It was the Absence of God-- the Divine mind, as the all life in the consciousness of the soul--that created matter, the unreal. It was the absence of God, as the all life and reaity, from the consciousness of the soul, and not the presence of God, as the all life, in the consciousness of the soul , that made mortal man.

 

It was the voice of the Lord God and not the voice of God, that Adam and Eve heard in the Garden, after they had eaten the forbidden fruit. It was the Absence of God as all reality and light and life and truth, withdrawing himself from their souls as life, that caused Adam and Eve to hide themselves, and to seek darkness and death. It was the consciousness in the soul that God was withdrawing himself as the light and life from the soul that made the soul conscious of darkness and death.

 

When God was manifested in the soul as life, the soul had the correct conception of God as Life. When God was withdrawn from the consciousness of the soul as life, the soul worshipped the senses as gods. And in all days as men have indulged lust, they have felt God withdrawing himself from their souls as Life; and their souls have wandered in outer darkness and death, ceasing to reflect God as the only life, and have worshipped the senses and death.

 

It  was the absence of God, as the all life in the consciousness of the soul that turned them out of the Garden of Eden--from the presence of God as life into a state of the senses, where soul ceased to reflect God as the only life.

 

Quoting Christ from the Apocalypse of Peter in the Nag Hammadi texts:

""For evil cannot produce good fruit. For the place from which each of them is produces that which is like itself; for not every soul is of the truth, nor of immortality. For every soul of these ages has death assigned to it in our view, because it is always a slave, since it is created for its desires and their eternal destruction, in which they are and from which they are. They love the creatures of the matter which came forth with them."

 

Here Christ differentiates 'mortal souls' from 'immortal souls'. The differentiating factor being "because it is always a slave, since it is created for its desires and their eternal destruction, in which they are and from which they are."

 

And then in John 8:44 (from the Holy Bible): 

 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies."

 

What Christ is saying is that not every soul is of the truth or of immortality. Error is the absence of truth, darkness is the absence of light, death is the absence of life; Sin--the serpent--can only exist in the consciousness of soul, in the absence of the consciousness of God as the all holy and perfect life--from the soul. 

 

Man has not any inherent life. But in the conscious presence of God--man reflects God--the all life. The serpent--lust--is the veil that separates man from the conscious presence of God--the all life--which is spiritual death. When the serpent is present in the consciousness of the soul, man is conscious of the senses as death and conceives life to be in the unreal -- matter, death.

 

The sex and lust senses (mortal-mind) conceives life to be in matter. This is error-it is the incorrect association of ideas--it is the conception of God as material.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, PH196 said:

In David Icke's recent videos he goes into detail that the conspiracy is and was (in general) to entrap human perception in the five senses, in turn disconnecting human perception from the influence of expanded infinite awareness. 

 

This is correct, yet I will try to explain it from a different perspective: Real and Unreal, Life and Death.

 

It was the Absence of God-- the Divine mind, as the all life in the consciousness of the soul--that created matter, the unreal. It was the absence of God, as the all life and reaity, from the consciousness of the soul, and not the presence of God, as the all life, in the consciousness of the soul , that made mortal man.

 

It was the voice of the Lord God and not the voice of God, that Adam and Eve heard in the Garden, after they had eaten the forbidden fruit. It was the Absence of God as all reality and light and life and truth, withdrawing himself from their souls as life, that caused Adam and Eve to hide themselves, and to seek darkness and death. It was the consciousness in the soul that God was withdrawing himself as the light and life from the soul that made the soul conscious of darkness and death.

 

When God was manifested in the soul as life, the soul had the correct conception of God as Life. When God was withdrawn from the consciousness of the soul as life, the soul worshipped the senses as gods. And in all days as men have indulged lust, they have felt God withdrawing himself from their souls as Life; and their souls have wandered in outer darkness and death, ceasing to reflect God as the only life, and have worshipped the senses and death.

 

It  was the absence of God, as the all life in the consciousness of the soul that turned them out of the Garden of Eden--from the presence of God as life into a state of the senses, where soul ceased to reflect God as the only life.

 

Quoting Christ from the Apocalypse of Peter in the Nag Hammadi texts:

""For evil cannot produce good fruit. For the place from which each of them is produces that which is like itself; for not every soul is of the truth, nor of immortality. For every soul of these ages has death assigned to it in our view, because it is always a slave, since it is created for its desires and their eternal destruction, in which they are and from which they are. They love the creatures of the matter which came forth with them."

 

Here Christ differentiates 'mortal souls' from 'immortal souls'. The differentiating factor being "because it is always a slave, since it is created for its desires and their eternal destruction, in which they are and from which they are."

 

And then in John 8:44 (from the Holy Bible): 

 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies."

 

What Christ is saying is that not every soul is of the truth or of immortality. Error is the absence of truth, darkness is the absence of light, death is the absence of life; Sin--the serpent--can only exist in the consciousness of soul, in the absence of the consciousness of God as the all holy and perfect life--from the soul. 

 

Man has not any inherent life. But in the conscious presence of God--man reflects God--the all life. The serpent--lust--is the veil that separates man from the conscious presence of God--the all life--which is spiritual death. When the serpent is present in the consciousness of the soul, man is conscious of the senses as death and conceives life to be in the unreal -- matter, death.

 

The sex and lust senses (mortal-mind) conceives life to be in matter. This is error-it is the incorrect association of ideas--it is the conception of God as material.

 

 

 

I am sorry, my friend, but it is all wrong.

 

When you're looking at what is through a lens... You will not see what it is.

You will get a distorted view of what actually is.

 

You must NOT use any lens... Meaning, any ideology, religion, belief....etc Of any kind.

 

There is no such thing as god, energy, matter, universe.... all illusions within illusions.

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I am sorry, my friend, but it is all wrong.

 

When you're looking at what is through a lens... You will not see what it is.

You will get a distorted view of what actually is.

 

You must NOT use any lens... Meaning, any ideology, religion, belief....etc Of any kind.

 

There is no such thing as god, energy, matter, universe.... all illusions within illusions.

"I do not exist", is true...for you.

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There is no such thing as god, energy, matter, universe.... all illusions within illusions.

Here, you state that all is an illusion, including God, because you "feel" this is the truth. You have a faint vague feeling, likely emanating from your ??? that confirms your "feeling" that all is illusion; and without thinking proceed to lash out at any challenge or mocking, of your vague feeling, which has upset you.

 

You have no evidence to confirm your view, no thought out logic, no scripture, just "opinion" and "feeling".

 

I have an inkling that you do not exist, but God does.

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On 12/5/2021 at 7:58 AM, PH196 said:

Here, you state that all is an illusion, including God, because you "feel" this is the truth. You have a faint vague feeling, likely emanating from your ??? that confirms your "feeling" that all is illusion; and without thinking proceed to lash out at any challenge or mocking, of your vague feeling, which has upset you.

 no evidence to confirm your view, no thought out logic, no scripture, just "opinion" and "feeling".

 

I have an inkling that you do not exist, but God does.

Well first off, you try to reduce the validity of  Guardian's beliefs and thoughts by describing them  as an inkling

Then you say  he has no evidence to confirm his view, no thought out logic, no scripture, just "opinion" and "feeling".

Well after reading his posts, these and others, I would think he has given the matter great deal of thought to reach the conclusions he has , and the fact he has no scripture means absolutely nothing.

So the same question can be asked of yourself , is your certainty that god exists an opinion a feeling or an inkling, and which god actually exists then ,yours? and what evidence do you have for that existence and please don't say the scriptures because I will ask you who wrote them god or man

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2 hours ago, peter said:

Well first off, you try to reduce the validity of  Guardian's beliefs and thoughts by describing them  as an inkling

Then you say  he has no evidence to confirm his view, no thought out logic, no scripture, just "opinion" and "feeling".

Well after reading his posts, these and others, I would think he has given the matter great deal of thought to reach the conclusions he has , and the fact he has no scripture means absolutely nothing.

So the same question can be asked of yourself , is your certainty that god exists an opinion a feeling or an inkling, and which god actually exists then ,yours? and what evidence do you have for that existence and please don't say the scriptures because I will ask you who wrote them god or man

I (in part) wrote those scriptures, meaning, I was there (albeit, in a past life) and heard first hand what Jesus Christ preached for 3 years while here on earth, so yes both God and man wrote them. 

 

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I (in part) wrote those scriptures, meaning, I was there (albeit, in a past life) and heard first hand what Jesus Christ preached for 3 years while here on earth, so yes both God and man wrote them. 

 

sounds like an inkling to me ,so you have no more proof than Guardian then.

If you were around when jesus chirst had his moment on the cross  that would make you the devil, Keith and Mick will attest to that

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On 12/5/2021 at 7:58 AM, PH196 said:

Here, you state that all is an illusion, including God, because you "feel" this is the truth. You have a faint vague feeling, likely emanating from your ??? that confirms your "feeling" that all is illusion; and without thinking proceed to lash out at any challenge or mocking, of your vague feeling, which has upset you.

 

You have no evidence to confirm your view, no thought out logic, no scripture, just "opinion" and "feeling".

 

I have an inkling that you do not exist, but God does.

 

 

The most narrow people on the planet. Right here.

 

You only echo what others told you. I actually lived my experience.

Nothing I know comes from others. Unlike you. 

 

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sounds like an inkling to me ,so you have no more proof than Guardian then.

If you were around when jesus chirst had his moment on the cross  that would make you the devil, Keith and Mick will attest to that

 

Everything I said is from my own experience. Nothing I say comes from others. 

 

Here is the link to this forum, where I go into more detail.

 

 

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sounds like an inkling to me ,so you have no more proof than Guardian then.

If you were around when jesus chirst had his moment on the cross  that would make you the devil, Keith and Mick will attest to that

No, actually I am the Apostle Peter, that same soul.

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2 hours ago, Guardian said:

Everything I said is from my own experience. Nothing I say comes from others. 

 

Here is the link to this forum, where I go into more detail.

Yes I have a few posts in that thread, I also like to think for myself

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and I'm Frank Zapper

No you are actually a mortal soul, which is what Christ was referring to in the Apocalypse of Peter, these are his exact words to me:

 

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Mortal Souls Are Different from Immortal Souls (75, 7–76, 23) “Evil cannot produce good fruit. 25 Everything, wherever it comes from, produces what is like it. Not every soul is of the truth or of immortality. In our opinion, every soul of these present times 26 is assigned to death and is always enslaved, since this soul is created to serve its own desires. These souls are destined for eternal destruction, in which they are and from which they are, for they love the creatures of matter that came into being with them. “But immortal souls are not like these, Peter. Still, as long as the hour 27 has not yet come, an immortal soul resembles mortal souls. It 28 will not reveal its true nature: it alone is [76] immortal and contemplates immortality, and has faith, and desires to renounce these mortal souls."

 

Which is what I did then - renounced you, and will continue to do now; after all, Christ was crucified for speaking the truth.

 

The Savior Tells Peter to Proclaim What Has Been Revealed (83, 15–84, 14) “You are to present what you have seen to those who are strangers, 56 who are not of this age. 57 For there will be no grace among those who are not immortal, but only among those chosen because of their immortal nature, which has shown it can receive the one who gives in abundance. 58 “For this reason I have said, Whoever has will be given more, and this person will have in abundance. But whoever does not have—that is, the person of this world, 59 who is completely dead, 60 who derives 61 from the planting of creation and procreation, [84] who thinks he can lay hold of someone else of immortal nature when such a person appears—this will be taken away from that person and added to whatever exists. 62 “So be courageous and fear nothing. For I shall be with you that none of your enemies may prevail over you. Peace be with you. Be strong.” When the Savior said these things, Peter came to his senses. 63 Revelation of Peter 

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God, what a mad house........

I don't expect anyone to 'believe' that I am actually Apostle Peter, even though Christ is stating, in clear as day terms, that he (Peter) would reveal these things to children who "are not of this age", implying I would be returning.

 

 

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For example, I can accurately describe what Christ is saying, and understand all his teachings.

 

I'll elaborate a bit further since you seem to be skeptical:

 

Mortal Souls Are Different from Immortal Souls (75, 7–76, 23)

“Evil cannot produce good fruit. 25 Everything, wherever it comes from, produces what is like it. Not every soul is of the truth or of immortality. In our opinion, every soul of these present times 26 is assigned to death and is always enslaved, since this soul is created to serve its own desires. These souls are destined for eternal destruction, in which they are and from which they are, for they love the creatures of matter that came into being with them.

“But immortal souls are not like these, Peter. Still, as long as the hour 27 has not yet come, an immortal soul resembles mortal souls. It 28 will not reveal its true nature: it alone is [76] immortal and contemplates immortality, and has faith, and desires to renounce these mortal souls.”

If I’m not mistaken that is exactly what you have been observing. I’ll explain it this way: you have the genus homo sapiens, which is essentially an animal native to planet earth. A homo sapien is the mortal soul that Christ is speaking of. A sapien lives only once. The immortal soul is Spirit incarnating into the material creation.

Later on in the passage:

The Savior Tells Peter to Proclaim What Has Been Revealed (83, 15–84, 14)

“You are to present what you have seen to those who are strangers, 56 who are not of this age. 57 For there will be no grace among those who are not immortal, but only among those chosen because of their immortal nature, which has shown it can receive the one who gives in abundance. 58

“For this reason I have said, Whoever has will be given more, and this person will have in abundance. But whoever does not have—that is, the person of this world, 59 who is completely dead, 60 who derives 61 from the planting of creation and procreation, [84] who thinks he can lay hold of someone else of immortal nature when such a person appears—this will be taken away from that person and added to whatever exists. 62 “So be courageous and fear nothing. For I shall be with you that none of your enemies may prevail over you. Peace be with you. Be strong.”

 

Again, what Christ is saying is clear as day: the organic portal — the person of this world, who is completely dead — is not who Christ was addressing when he came here. He was only speaking to the immortal souls. I’m not saying everything in that passage was unscathed from centuries of possible contamination. But the interesting thing about the Nag Hammadi is that it is from around the 3rd century AD, so some of the elements within are likely remnants of early Christianity, and what Christ taught. There is no prior archetype to the description rendered in those few short passages. 

 

OPs are completely dead - no Spirit inside. They do not think higher thoughts or even enquire about them. When you speak to them about these things it is invariably reduced back into a form that the physical brain can understand. My not-so-nice phrase I use to refer to OP’s is: inert genetic monkey trash...no esta en casa...no lights on, nobody home.

 

If we accept that there are literally people who are just of this world, meaning, no Spiritual component, I should then proceed to explain exactly what this place is, why we are here, who we are, what God is etc.

There is a dual nature to creation: the physical and the Spiritual. The physical creation is infinitesimal and mortal. The Spiritual creation is infinite and immortal. Before I get into the details of what differentiates these two creations I need to backtrack a bit and explain a bit of God’s cosmology, and the origin of what humans term ‘evil’.

At some point, God evolved to one unique identity. This phenomenon came about by way of the mathematical argument that there is the infinite domain of God and all else is non-existence, what God is not. In Vulcan metaphysics, it is stated as, ‘nothing unreal exists.’ God is increasing at an infinite rate toward infinity, but we can regard that domain, which is a null domain, where God is not as the void into which God is expanding. Such an expansion requires infinite adaptability to express the infinite series of potentialities regarding the null void: What is God not? All that God is falls into that domain of the infinitely expanding identity of God. All that God is not falls into that null domain that God is expanding into.

So God creates a second infinite, unique domain, and a necessary third domain appears to tie the two infinite domains of God and His new creation together such that there is overlap and not complete mutual exclusivity.

You can see when a grade-school style Venn diagram is in place that the creation of a second unique infinite domain brings about the existence of a third domain if there is to be any relationship, including simple communication, between the two domains. Since domain A and domain B are infinite, then the overlap A ∩ B, must also therefore be infinite.

Also, domain A ∩ B shares elements of both unique domains and therefore has a higher ‘density’ ration when considering the individual elements and characteristics that make up each of the two unique domains, A and B. Domain A ∩ B therefore can in all practical senses be considered in some ways superior, possessing elements and characteristics that either one domain may lack, alone. This phenomenon is the reason God created a second unique infinite domain. This is where the terms the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, come from. The Holy Spirit representing the overlap between domains A ∩ B; the Father and the Son.

When you look up at the night sky and see the entire cosmos, you need to know that it is but one cosmos in a googolplex of universes just in this realm alone. In modern terms a ‘realm’ can be thought of as a Multiverse. Each Multiverse has a physical manifestation and its non-physical counterpart; its own Heaven, if you will, an infinite domain. As each physical Multiverse ages to extinction another is created, again, like the layers of an onion, and all life of the former realm exists then in the infinite domain of that Heaven.

And that there are as may realms extending outward from the source of creation, like the layers of an onion, aeon after aeon, age after age, realm after realm, since God began building realms and cosmoses and sentient beings to explore that infinite question, ‘what is God not?’ This God does to expand into that infinite void, through us.

The Venn diagram can be considered the very essence of all creation, the first domain of God in God’s creation, and also explains the mystery of the Son, whom appears in all of the religions of man in a multitude of names and expressed in means unique to each of those cultures. The mystery of what the Judaic cultures call the Holy Spirit lies in that area denoted by the overlap of the two unique domains.

That is the core of the onion. At some point the phenomenon A ∩ B, meeting the requirements of an infinitely expanding system, must expand into a null void, what is God not? The first realm other than the unique infinite domains of God, the Son, and the Holy Spirit is created. The first layer of the onion comes into being, a universe is created, or rather, a Multiverse, a realm, consisting of numerous subsets, a multitude of universes not at all like our universe in construct or purpose. This is the first of creation that can be denoted as, in summary, the Kingdom of God.

A Multiverse is a system that contains countless universes tied together by a common foundation of space-time.

In order to expand into this void, what is God not? A multitude of unique, infinite domains identical in construct to God must be created to explore the potentialities of this infinite question. The question is infinite; the domains that explore the infinite question must also therefore be infinite in scope and duration. These infinite domains are sentient life. Life is created; from every simple microscopic single celled organism to sentient beings fill this new domain. The sentient beings are those that are charged with answering, or rather, exploring the potentialities of the infinite question, what is God not? All of the other life forms down to the simplest single celled organisms are in roles that support the work of the Sentients. In this case, the Sentients are not humans, not yet. That realm, this realm in which we reside has not been created yet, and will be many layers further from the inner most domain where God resides.

If you can try to picture that, but trillions upon trillions of layers thick, that is what we are talking about. Each layer is a realm, a Multiverse, in common terms, containing a googolplex of universes and countless sentient beings. The outer layers are younger, the inner layers are more ancient, and the innermost layers are the most ancient of creation. In short, creation didn’t happen yesterday, certainly not 13.8 billion years ago. This realm and this cosmos are on the outermost layer of creation, the youngest; the frontier. There is no number large enough to put an actual age on the whole of creation. This realm is many trillions of years old, actually, something on the order of trillions of trillions. Our cosmos is not nearly as old as this realm (this Multiverse) that contains it.

The inner domains, the inner layers of the onion are more ancient as they were created earlier. They no longer exist in physical form as they have already achieved heat death long ago. They only exist as infinite domains.

The first realm, the first Multiverse, is so ancient that the place humans refer to as Heaven is many layers and domains of creation newer, younger, not to be confused with this innermost domain where God exists. That is, Heaven, for human beings, is part of the younger domains just as our physical cosmos is. Human Heaven is part of the outermost, youngest realm, not part of 

the cosmos, but not a physical part of the realm. The differentiation is in permanency. Physical cosmoses and realms are finite; they cease to exist at some point. Heavenly realms are infinite, they never cease to exist. That is, each realm, or layer, has its own ‘heaven,’ or infinite, non- corporeal domain. Eventually the corporeal face of a realm dies Heat Death, but the non- corporeal domain continues on for infinity. What we call ‘Heaven’ is one of such trillions of ‘heavens’ in the Kingdom of God. This is written in the Bible, especially the non-canonical book of Enoch, although such large numbers were not directly discussed. In the Vedas this is spoken of plainly.

In biology, the term ‘self-regulating’ is used. When you create an entire cosmos for the purpose of creating darkness, what God not, you want a safety valve in place. A self-extinguishing, self- regulating cosmos that will cease to exist under its own volition and design is just such a mechanism. Therefore, ultimately Astrophysicists will discover that the cosmos is indeed self- regulating, and will cease to exist at some point.

At this point, upon looking at the inner layers of the onion, the domain humans refer to as Heaven has not even been conceived of, not even by God. Countless thousands of such layers, such Kingdoms of God, will be created, like the layers of an onion, before our Heaven and Earth are even conceived of. Thus, there are countless realms in the Kingdom of God that are more ancient than that place humans call Heaven. What they call Heaven is still a young place, new. Some of this is explained in the Vedic literature. It is also described in the Bible, the Talmud, and other Holy texts. The next obvious question is, ‘who explained this to the humans who wrote the ancient Vedas? The answer is, the Avatars.

Avatars are beings from these more ancient domains that appear among younger sentient species to express and explain some of the guidelines for our existence. The apostles were Avatars.

 

The outer layers are younger, the inner layers of creation are more ancient. The inner layers are so old that they no longer exist in physical form, they have either recollapsed or experienced Heat Death or some other such thing, but their associated infinite domains (their Heaven) exist for infinity. As each layer of creation fulfills its task of exploring all of the potentialities of the infinite question, what is God not(?) that are possible within that domain, a newer, younger domain is then created more distant from God to explore yet further; God expands to fill that void. In so doing, God expands into that void. That is the reason we exist here. Eventually, this physical domain will cease to exist, and humans will exist in the Kingdom of God associated with their realm, and another realm will be created, and so on.

Recapping: In order for God to fit the definition of Infinite, God must be infinitely expanding. Infinity has no endpoint. In order for God to expand, He must expand into a null domain. The null domain can be expressed by the term, what is God not?

In each realm, or Multiverse, as you will, the null domain what is God not is explored to exhaustion. This process can take googols of years for any given realm. At this point, the realm is exhausted as a null domain, and as a void for God to expand into. For all practical purposes, the sentient beings that occupy such a realm become gods by human standards, made of the same stuff as God, created in God’s image, and now knowing all things of good and evil, become omniscient.

In order to explore the potentialities of that question, God creates another unique, yet finite domain we would refer to as a Multiverse, or realm, as you will.

This Multiverse is the foundation for countless Universes, each with a unique set of properties embedded within the greater domain of this Multiverse. Just think of bubbles in water. The bubbles are universes embedded within the Multiverse of the water. Oversimplified, but expresses the idea without error.

This Multiverse and all of its subset universes must then be filled with life. Some life is sentient, the other life supports the role of the sentient beings as they explore the infinite question, what is God not? In perspective, humans, for instance, are not the only sentient life on Earth. The fallacy of inaccurately thinking so is part of our failed makeup that defines our stupidity, a feature of what is God not. Stupidity, evil, violence, commerce, pollution, sex, drugs, starvation, disease, suffering, desperation, powerlessness, limited... War. What is God not?

There is the physical, finite domain of this physical cosmos, and another domain we refer to as our Heaven, and the overlap between the two domains is us.

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, PH196 said:

I don't expect anyone to 'believe' that I am actually Apostle Peter, even though Christ is stating, in clear as day terms, that he (Peter) would reveal these things to children who "are not of this age", implying I would be returning.

 

 

 

Well, since Saint Peter preached the Gospel in Rome, isn't it more likely that Jesus foretold the power of his ministry to spread his message amongst the Gentile nations and thus promote the spread of Christianity throughout the Roman Empire and Europe for nearly two thousand years...


I'm not big on Occam's Razor but I think in this case it's probably preferable to believing you are a reincarnation of Saint Peter.

 

 

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 Put another way: you currently exist in an infinite domain, Heaven, and ‘this place’ is only a perception, an infinite being cannot ‘fit’ in a finite box.

I’ve done some research on near death experiences and this seems to be a common theme among some of the more detailed accounts:

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"The closest I can come is to say it was like being suddenly placed a few feet from the Sun – but instead of feeling heat, you feel LOVE. Infinite Love. The Love emanated out in all directions in slow, gentle rays of light. I felt as big as a galaxy. I knew, or could know, anything and everything I wanted to know. When I looked at my life on this earth, it was like looking at the life of an ant."

“There is no way to compare my consciousness when I was in the Light with my consciousness here on planet Earth. It's like asking someone to compare the difference between the light from a thousand suns exploding at the same time and the light from a match stick. Yes, they are both light, but beyond that, there is no comparison. I can only say that I was in a complete state of love and knowing. The love of a billion home-comings all rolled up into one instant, and the knowing of every aspect of the complete universe, to become one with God. I had all of my earthly senses only heightened by a million times.”

 

That last account was especially intriguing to me: your current perception/awareness is like the light from a matchstick vs a thousand exploding suns — the state of infinite being in the infinite domain humans refer to as ‘Heaven’. That is where you really are right now. Like multiple split levels of awareness. The goal is not to escape the matrix per say, because you are not really here to begin with. Think of it like BIG YOU and little you. BIG YOU is an infinite being of infinite scope, constructed of (for lack of a better term) pure and unconditional Love, and is by human standards all-knowing. BIG YOU already has all the answers. That is why meditation is such an important tool for us enlightened gurus — that internal intuition or knowing is coming from your inner being, not the cognitive mind which overthinks.

Moving along...so what exactly is this place, how was it created, and what is the origin of Evil? First off, you do not need to be a Christian to believe anything I say, as ‘belief’ is in fact a cognitive process that does not effect the structure of reality. My ideas here are bit more speculative, but the overarching themes are consistent.

A long, long looong time ago, in the first order of creation — that first ancient ‘layer of the onion’ so to speak, there existed a creation of Spirit (sentient) beings who you can regard as those first infinite domains other than God that were created. In terms humans might understand: imagine you are God and you got bored, you know you are fuking awesome, but there is a nagging question in your mind: I know what I am, so, logically, I want to know what I am not.

 

God approached one of his highest angels, whom we will simply agree is called Lucifer for the time being, and charged him with the command; create a new concept, a new realm to explore such that God (I) can expand, what is God not? Lucifer, being the among the most intelligent of his race, created (invented) war; he rallied his people and warred against the entire realm of Heaven, then created a domain where God is not –Hell. He fulfilled his command with a completely unique and new layer to add to the Kingdom of God. His influence overlaps with all sentient beings in this Multiverse – filled with unique finite universes, each universe filled with countless trillions of sentient beings, all exploring the infinite question, what is God not? All influenced by Lucifer. Lucifer can be thought of as the director of this place. That is why those who mimic him are rewarded in this physical world, rewarded with money, women, power, and so on. That is the answer to an age-old question.

 

This Multiverse, filled with countless universes, each universe filled with countless trillions of sentient beings, is on the very outermost edge of God’s existence. The description above is of Lucifer’s actions in an angelic realm of the first creation, a googolplex of realms prior to this one. Thus, the name Lucifer is merely a model. Nevertheless, he whom we will agree will go by the

name Lucifer, for lack of a better word, created, invented, conceived of the first darkness beyond God’s reach and understanding, war, hatred, territorialism. Again, this occurred in the first realm of creation.

 

We, a googolplex of realms, countless trillions of eons later, have inherited this model. We have of course expanded on this model and invented entirely new ones in ways our ancestors in the former realms could never have conceived of, else we would not have need been created.

If you read the gnostic texts it is insinuated that the ‘physical’ manifest domains are the product of the Archon-Demiurge, who essentially copy the fractal patterns of the eternal aeons of the Heavens, and create a counterfeit copy. They don’t have any creative capacity in and of themselves. They mimic God’s creation.

It is my speculation that what is being described (in vague detail) in the Gnostic texts, is that the Archon-Demiurge is in fact another name for the biblical Fallen Angles. And the Lord Archon ‘Yaldabaoth’ is another name for Lucifer or Satan. Thus, your perception that this world is more or less ruled by Satan is correct. The stories have almost exacting parallels, complete with both Lucifer and Yaldabaoth claiming they were God and rebelling.

Unfortunately, as Revelation indicates, he lost that rebellion all those aeons ago:

“7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.”

If you read between the lines, what was ‘caste out’ of the infinite domain is the creation of the Archon-Demiurge, the earth. It's an analogy for something that is beyond the human scope of understanding. Similar to the garden of eden story, where ‘man became of living soul’ i.e. us Spirit beings incarnate into the material creation and are conscious of the difference between good and evil, the spiritual and the material, life and death. According to the gnostic texts the Archons have their own ‘heavens’, and they exist on the periphery of the layer of the onion of creation, rather than ‘deep heaven’ —the eternal aeons. Lucifer and his legions oversee the manifest finite domains, because it is in a sense their creation, or reflects their state of being, which is/was in rebellion against God, and as such, reflects death rather than Life.

 

Clarifying: the physical domains are the manifestation of the minds of the Fallen Angels, who rebelled against God. Think of it this way - when you rebel against God, naturally, you partake of the opposite nature of God. If God is Good, Light, Truth, Life, Infinity then in order to rebel against him you have to conceive of the opposite: darkness, error, and death.

The reason the mortal creation dies is that it was not spiritually conceived by God. It is infinitesimal and thus does not really exist. Lucifer claimed he was God —the source of life, which is non-sequitur when you consider that God created him...laughable. This is what Christ was saying in the Revelation of Peter passage: “Evil cannot produce good fruit”. Meaning, the minds of those fallen beings, or the satanic mind, is the father of the ‘mortal soul’, and all of the mortal creation is propagated through this mind. And the mind of the serpent is verily the mind

of Lust. God’s creation is conceived by him and is constructed of love and is immortal. Lucifer’s creation is ruled by the law of lust which permeates all of the ‘natural’ world; and this is the law of death. The reason the mortal is born is also the reason it dies.

However, this is in a sense necessary in order for God to explore the question ‘what am I not?’.

So is Lucifer bad? Yes and no. Yes, because he was the first being to conceive of the not-God concept. No because by doing so he has increased God greatly. This is similar to the yin-yang in buddhism, two sides of the same coin.

 

Essentially, the Material Creation is the counterfeit of the Spiritual World. The Spiritual is real, the Material is Unreal. The Spiritual creation is infinite, the material creation is infinitesimal, and being infinitesimal, does not really exist.

Because we are in a sense Gods and can create reality at will, the material and mortal came into existence as the results of lust conceived by the angels who are in a state of rebellion against God. In order to ‘incarnate’ you are in sense yielding to the minds of the fallen angels — narrowing the focus of your attention to this infinitesimal construct, what you term ‘the matrix’. The material and mortal are God’s means of manifesting the opposite of Himself, as the result of their transgression.

 

That is why Christ was born without sin —the immaculate conception —he was Spiritually conceived by God in the flesh and was not subject to the material law of lust and triumphed over every law of the the mortal creation, which includes the seemingly impossible i.e. miracles and healing the sick.

The law of lust is anti-spiritual and contrary to life. The physical ‘man’ (organic portal) only exists in mind and thought in the absence of God as the only life—the absence of God’s mind. All that appears yet is not in the presence of god is under this anti-spiritual law. If this were not the case then God would not be able to explore the question ‘what am I not?’ through the mortal creation. The Christian scripture represents lust as the power of the flesh and anti-spiritual, hence the passage “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him.”

 

The “Adam man” or organic portal self is anti-spiritual, which is why you cannot know anything spiritual through the cognitive mind. The organic portal is completely dead — there is no actual life in matter or cell life, it is all Maya — illusion. It is the manifestation of the minds of the Fallen Angels, who rebelled against God's Kingdom, represented in the flesh and blood human. That does not mean we (us enlightened souls) are the fallen angles, rather it means you in a sense ‘yield’ or sync with that mental state in order to perceive this place, and being essentially a God can manifest realities simply by focusing our attention. As Spirit is life, the power of lust which is anti-spiritual is disease, sickness and death. All of the infirmities, diseases and sickness and suffering of the physical man had their origin in the power of lust, yielding to the carnal mind. Where all is Spirit—all is life. Where all is lust—all is death. A liberated soul is free from all desire and bondage to this non-existent world.

 

This is why the Buddha and Christ shunned everything that was of this world and had complete authority over the mortal mind and creation. The divine mind has authority over the undivine one, because it is in harmony with God’s nature, and only God exists. All that is not-God is infinitesimal, and does not exist really exist, the Hindus termed this Maya.

 

Death — the carnal mind — is simply defined as: the absence of God’s mind in the consciousness of the soul. The body is an extension of mind. Space and time are also an illusion created by the mind, a construct. Matter is a construct of consciousness.

If you don’t like the Bible thumping with demons devils and satan, you can think of it this way: in order for an infinite being to have a finite experience there needs to be a means of ‘generating’ that finite state of being. Which implies creating a characteristic that is wholly foreign to infinite being, namely, it is non-eternal in duration, finite, duh. And the essence of finite being (as it pertains to this finite universe) is sex-lust, which is the law of the mortal creation.

A few questions that I have yet to develop a comprehensive answer to are: does the soul come and stay here by its own volition, or is it ‘trapped’ until it escapes the reincarnation cycle?

 

Is this place essentially an energy extraction matrix (as you have implied) for the archons?

And also: who is behind the control system that is currently seeking to perceptually enslave humanity? If it is Lucifer, and he has once again overstepped his sphere of influence which God permits, then unfortunately he is going to be punished by yours truly.

In any case, I think it could be a combination of both. My conception of the entire expansion process of God is that the various finite domains are gradually exhausted as a null domain for God to expand into, and at that point all of the sentient lifeforms within such domains become (by current standards) Buddhas, it becomes a Buddha-verse, if you will. This is achieved when the mortal creation gradually becomes unreal to the mortal creation, as they awaken to infinity — the mortal creation conceives only God to be real, and the material to be unreal.

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1 minute ago, Truthspoon said:

 

Well, since Saint Peter preached the Gospel in Rome, isn't it more likely that Jesus foretold the power of his ministry to spread his message amongst the Gentile nations and thus promote the spread of Christianity throughout the Roman Empire.


I'm not big on Occam's Razor but I think in this case it's probably preferable to believing you are a reincarnation of Saint Peter.

 

 

Not only that, Christ states in that same passage that he would be returning as well, implying reincarnation:

 

"But many others, who oppose the truth and are the messengers of error, will set up their error and their law against these pure thoughts of mine, as looking out from one (perspective) thinking that good and evil are from one (source). They do business in my word. And they will propagate harsh fate. The race of immortal souls will go in it in vain, until my Parousia. For they shall come out of them - and my forgiveness of their transgressions, into which they fell through their adversaries"

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I can't help but feel you're making things complicated.

 

As soon as people start saying 'infinite' and 'multiverse' I sense trouble.

 

It's much simpler.

 

Some people are controlled by demons. Their thoughts are not their own..... thoughts originate in the astral realm in which part of our consciousness resides.....  those people you call Organic Portals are just controlled by demonic thoughts, they are unable to differentiate between their true selves and the imposter parasites in the astral realm.

 

The aim of life should be finding your authentic light self........and trying to control the harmful and potentially destructive thoughts coming into your consciousness from the astral realm,

 

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