PH196 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 "And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die; for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods knowing good and evil. And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof and did eat and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. And the eyes of them both were opened and they knew that they were naked and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves aprons.'' Gen. 3:4-7. "And Jesus said unto them, if God were your Father, ye would love me, for I proceedeth forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? Even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father, the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own, for he is a liar and the father of it." John 8:42-44. The devil here is the same devil that deceived Eve. He is the Serpent, and the Serpent means a "Babbler" and the "Master of the tongue and thoughts." The devil here is the carnal and sex senses of the Adamic creation, speaking into consciousness and thought of the soul. He is the chief of the fallen angels, who fell. Christ said that he "abode not in the truth." Truth is of spiritual and soul sense. It is holy in thought and consciousness. When the devil fell, he was cast into carnal consciousness and thought. He was cast out of the presence of God, and this carnal and sex nature of the Adamic creation is his mind manifested in consciousness and thought, and is the adversary — an "enemy" of the soul, made in the "image of God,' in thought. All propagation here in this Adamic creation is through the Satanic mind — Cain. It is of the lust of the flesh. The Adamic creation is perpetuated through the belief of pleasure and life in the carnal and sex senses, which is a lie. This mind, who is the father of liars, deceived Eve; he told her she should not die, which was a lie; and our Lord says that "he is the father of liars." There is no truth in the carnal and lust senses. They promise life and pleasure and they produce death and sorrow. They afflict the human body with human torture, and the human mind with mental pain. The diseases of both body and mind originate within the carnal and lust senses. They are of the mind of the serpent. Man in this fallen state is the child of Satan. That is the truth that Jesus as the Christ taught, and says clear as day in John 8:42-44. That is, he is a child of sex-lust, which is the mind of the fallen angels manifested in the consciousness of the soul. This is the 'archontic hack' that david icke has been talking about for some time. THEY GAVE US THEIR MIND. This was the 'fall of man' - human consciousness being 'tuned in' to the fake fallen angel matrix. And this matrix reflects death (the mind of the fallen angels) rather than life (God's mind). When the angels rebelled against God they were cast out of his presence into outer darkness and death. 'This place' is God's means of manifesting the opposite of himself, as a result of their transgression. And the opposite of himself is the unreal - matter, darkness, and death. The opposite of himself is disease and sin, which originates in the carnal mind. God is the only real life, and the absence of God's mind in the consciousness of the soul is DEATH, and the UNREAL is the MIND OF THOSE BEINGS WHO REBELLED AGAINST HIM AS LIFE - and is represented in the mortal creation which was conceived through their minds - not God's mind. God is not the author of death, Satan is, and his mind is manifested in the soul through the lust senses of the adamic creation - all death (the mortal creation) is propogated through their minds, which is sex-lust, not God's mind. BOOOOOOOM.....TRUTH BOMB AFTER TRUTH BOMB AFTER TRUTH BOMB.....DEBATE ME, I'M READY TO GOOO. Why has no one understood this? But then again...I am the Archangel Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PH196 Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 If you have any questions just ask, and I will be glad to answer them - being an Angel of God and all, its my duty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Or they digested the information from the tree of knowledge of good and of evil and elevated themselves from a drooling conscious knuckle dragging being to one of self awareness, hence when God entered the garden they hid themselves away as they knew they were naked, and the rest is His story as they say, could this be the first recorded instance of a 'face palm moment' by God?. God Bless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PH196 Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, bobb said: Or they digested the information from the tree of knowledge of good and of evil and elevated themselves from a drooling conscious knuckle dragging being to one of self awareness, hence when God entered the garden they hid themselves away as they knew they were naked, and the rest is His story as they say, could this be the first recorded instance of a 'face palm moment' by God?. God Bless. Well, if you are going by a purely biblical point of view, they believed the lie of the serpent and died as a result, and we came here as the result... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PH196 Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) Watch David's Icke's most recent videocast. He goes into detail on this supposed 'metaverse' and how the agenda is to absorb human consciousness into this hive mind - that is, into the mind of the fallen angels. Satan wants Humans to become like him, in the ultimate F*ck-U to God. This is his way of getting back for getting absolutely curb-stombed in the 'great war' of the heavenly realms. Edited November 20, 2021 by PH196 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthspoon Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Serpent in Hebrew is Nachash....which also means 'the occult'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 If they(any) have no Truth in them, there is no reality to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 14 hours ago, PH196 said: Well, if you are going by a purely biblical point of view, they believed the lie of the serpent and died as a result, and we came here as the result... Is that the ultra condensed version of the account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 14 hours ago, PH196 said: Watch David's Icke's most recent videocast. He goes into detail on this supposed 'metaverse' and how the agenda is to absorb human consciousness into this hive mind - that is, into the mind of the fallen angels. Satan wants Humans to become like him, in the ultimate F*ck-U to God. This is his way of getting back for getting absolutely curb-stombed in the 'great war' of the heavenly realms. Yeah the film was called Lawn Mower Man, not a bad film its got Pierce Brosnan in it pre-dates The Matrix by seven years, and lets not forget The Thirteenth Floor the sub title was Question Reality, which is fitting as a lot of people these days do not seem to do. With respect to Satan though he does not want us to become like him because he is a snob and a deceiver, what he wants is everyone under his control as an insult and offense to God, his stated aim is to kick God off the Throne in Heaven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 And then there is the Daddy of them all Metropolis made 1927, that film when i watched it made me have nightmares and a loathing for the future cold, dark and dystopian, mmmm no thank you, you can keep it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PH196 Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 6 hours ago, bobb said: And then there is the Daddy of them all Metropolis made 1927, that film when i watched it made me have nightmares and a loathing for the future cold, dark and dystopian, mmmm no thank you, you can keep it. wth r u talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 8 hours ago, PH196 said: wth r u talking about Have you not watched any of those movies, because they all involve an enslaved population controlled by electricity in machines called computers, have you heard of computers, they are quite new in concept which why i am conversing with you using a babbage engine???. 0o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 6 hours ago, bobb said: Have you not watched any of those movies, because they all involve an enslaved population controlled by electricity in machines called computers, have you heard of computers, they are quite new in concept which why i am conversing with you using a babbage engine???. 0o "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." - George Bernard Shaw Quote Great Britons: Charles Babbage – The Father of Computers https://anglotopia.net/british-history/great-britons-charles-babbage/ n 1820 the Astronomical Society of London (to become the Royal Astronomical Society) was formed at the Freemason’s Tavern, in Lincoln’s Inn Fields, and Babbage was among those at the dinner. William Herschel, the father of his friend John Herschel, became its first president and it was while working for the society that Babbage’s most enduring work took place. One of the first aims of the Astronomical Society was to standardize and circulate astronomical data, and particularly important was given to improvements in the Nautical Almanac. This was used by sailors to calculate longitude at sea, in conjunction with the accurate marine chronometer invented in the middle of the 18th century, and was a vital part of Britain’s dominance as a marine power. Besides improving accuracy, Babbage wished to expand the information in the Almanac to make it more useful to Astronomers, a new but rapidly developing science at the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Hooray for unreasonable people in a time when the Government inisits on injecting everyone to alter there God given DNA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 On 11/20/2021 at 12:33 AM, PH196 said: The devil here is the same devil that deceived Eve. This mind, who is the father of liars, deceived Eve; he told her she should not die, which was a lie; But the Snake did not lie, God said if they eat of the Tree they would die yet when they ate, they did not die just as the Snake said, so God lied, not the Snake. This whole fallen Angel story was Lucifer wasn't it, not Satan. I know the devil, Satan, and Lucifer have been mixed up to be one and the same but in Biblical terms they are seperate entities and according to the Spiritualists they are inventions of the Roman Church. If your an Archangel, how come you don't know this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Lucifer is a Title meaning light bringer just the same as morning star, Satan refused to bow to Mankind because he is a snob, and to be honest i would be a bit miffed at bowing to men of loam/mud, but as we grow towards Him we learn of things not yet discovered, what if I were to tell you that you are also a being of light what would you say and how would you prove it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, bobb said: Hooray for unreasonable people in a time when the Government inisits on injecting everyone to alter there God given DNA. But it's governments and the cabal that are trying to adapt the world to themselves - they want the whole world to adapt to the way they want things done - so it's governments and the cabal that are being unreasonable. Edited November 21, 2021 by RobSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, bobb said: Have you not watched any of those movies, because they all involve an enslaved population controlled by electricity in machines called computers, have you heard of computers, they are quite new in concept which why i am conversing with you using a babbage engine???. 0o Apologies, I posted the wrong quote, so no wonder if you were confused by the reply. I didn't mean to post a Bernard Shaw quote... I meant to post this one by Allen Ginsberg: "Recent history is the record of a vast conspiracy to impose one level of mechanical consciousness on mankind." - Allen Ginsberg Hence: Quote Great Britons: Charles Babbage – The Father of Computers https://anglotopia.net/british-history/great-britons-charles-babbage/ In 1820 the Astronomical Society of London (to become the Royal Astronomical Society) was formed at the Freemason’s Tavern, in Lincoln’s Inn Fields, and Babbage was among those at the dinner. William Herschel, the father of his friend John Herschel, became its first president and it was while working for the society that Babbage’s most enduring work took place. One of the first aims of the Astronomical Society was to standardize and circulate astronomical data, and particularly important was given to improvements in the Nautical Almanac. This was used by sailors to calculate longitude at sea, in conjunction with the accurate marine chronometer invented in the middle of the 18th century, and was a vital part of Britain’s dominance as a marine power. Besides improving accuracy, Babbage wished to expand the information in the Almanac to make it more useful to Astronomers, a new but rapidly developing science at the time. Edited November 21, 2021 by RobSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 21 minutes ago, bobb said: Lucifer is a Title meaning light bringer just the same as morning star, Satan refused to bow to Mankind because he is a snob, and to be honest i would be a bit miffed at bowing to men of loam/mud, but as we grow towards Him we learn of things not yet discovered, what if I were to tell you that you are also a being of light what would you say and how would you prove it? Lucifer does mean 'Light Bearer' which referred to the 'Morning Star' namely the planet Venus. Lucifer as a fallen angel is a Roman Church myth. Based on a typo if you will, when translating Morning Star into Light Bearer and the converting Light Bearer to the Latin - Lucifer. Hence Lucifers creation rests on a kind of typo and the church simply invented a back story, there is no scriptual authority for the doctrine of Lucifer. Satan is also thought by some to be Lucifer but that is incorrect, but some still believe they are one and the same. Much confusion regarding the identity of the devil. Satan as the Snake in Eden is not explicitly stated as such in Genesis, rather the association with Satan and the Snake was again made by the Roman Church. There is no scripltual proof that the Snake was Satan. The idea that Satan would not bow down to man appears to be an Islamic belief and the Muslims are just as confused as the Roman church is about the existence of Satan as the ruler of an underworld. Some Christian denominations don't believe in the doctrine of Hell and Satan. They are Roman myths. Yes we are beings of light or energy but no I cannot prove it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 19 minutes ago, RobSS said: But it's governments and the cabal that are trying to adapt the world to themselves - they want the whole world to adapt to the way they want things done - so it's governments and the cabal that are being unreasonable. Well there is always two sides to the same coin, for me I aim to be as unreasonable as I can when it comes to the current Government, so for me I am challenging their notion of being reasonable, rational and logical thinking, remember that they are coming from the position that "I am from the Government, I am here to help you", and i will be slamming the door in their face!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 22 minutes ago, RobSS said: "Recent history is the record of a vast conspiracy to impose one level of mechanical consciousness on mankind." - Allen Ginsberg Ahhhh that is a great quote and full of truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, pi3141 said: Lucifer does mean 'Light Bearer' which referred to the 'Morning Star' namely the planet Venus. Lucifer as a fallen angel is a Roman Church myth. Based on a typo if you will, when translating Morning Star into Light Bearer and the converting Light Bearer to the Latin - Lucifer. Hence Lucifers creation rests on a kind of typo and the church simply invented a back story, there is no scriptual authority for the doctrine of Lucifer. Satan is also thought by some to be Lucifer but that is incorrect, but some still believe they are one and the same. Much confusion regarding the identity of the devil. Satan as the Snake in Eden is not explicitly stated as such in Genesis, rather the association with Satan and the Snake was again made by the Roman Church. There is no scripltual proof that the Snake was Satan. The idea that Satan would not bow down to man appears to be an Islamic belief and the Muslims are just as confused as the Roman church is about the existence of Satan as the ruler of an underworld. Some Christian denominations don't believe in the doctrine of Hell and Satan. They are Roman myths. Yes we are beings of light or energy but no I cannot prove it. Some people get too hung up on the word "lucifer" and so miss the point. All lucifer means is light bearer, from Latin, a term that can have either good or bad connotations, depending on the context. For example, someone holding a torch to show the way, can be described as a "Lucifer", even though they may be offering a good service, but what we have to be careful of is those using light to deceive. "So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." - Revelation 12:9 "And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light." - 2 Corinthians 11:14 Edited November 21, 2021 by RobSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSS Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, bobb said: Well there is always two sides to the same coin, for me I aim to be as unreasonable as I can when it comes to the current Government, so for me I am challenging their notion of being reasonable, rational and logical thinking, remember that they are coming from the position that "I am from the Government, I am here to help you", and i will be slamming the door in their face!. I don't think you're being unreasonable at all. It's governments that are being unreasonable in mandating vaccines, but I can absolutely see why they obviously think you are the unreasonable one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 28 minutes ago, RobSS said: Some people get too hung up on the word "lucifer" and so miss the point. All lucifer means is light bearer, from Latin, a term that can have either good or bad connotations, depending on the context. For example, someone holding a torch to show the way, can be described as a "Lucifer", even though they may be offering a good service, but what we have to be careful of is those using light to deceive. "So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." - Revelation 12:9 "And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light." - 2 Corinthians 11:14 This is excellent, so going back to the coin analogy the way i see what this Government and others before it have been doing is speaking as dragons I.e with fork tongue, or the royal 'we' meaning that when they say 'we' and 'our' they are really referencing themselves, their yea is not yea and their ney is not ney, we have been deceived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobb Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 44 minutes ago, pi3141 said: Lucifer does mean 'Light Bearer' which referred to the 'Morning Star' namely the planet Venus. Lucifer as a fallen angel is a Roman Church myth. Based on a typo if you will, when translating Morning Star into Light Bearer and the converting Light Bearer to the Latin - Lucifer. Hence Lucifers creation rests on a kind of typo and the church simply invented a back story, there is no scriptual authority for the doctrine of Lucifer. Satan is also thought by some to be Lucifer but that is incorrect, but some still believe they are one and the same. Much confusion regarding the identity of the devil. Satan as the Snake in Eden is not explicitly stated as such in Genesis, rather the association with Satan and the Snake was again made by the Roman Church. There is no scripltual proof that the Snake was Satan. The idea that Satan would not bow down to man appears to be an Islamic belief and the Muslims are just as confused as the Roman church is about the existence of Satan as the ruler of an underworld. Some Christian denominations don't believe in the doctrine of Hell and Satan. They are Roman myths. Yes we are beings of light or energy but no I cannot prove it. I wrote a rather lengthy reply to this and it disappeared, so here is the short version, look through an infra red camera see everyone lit up like Diwali. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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